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    '18 Rift Zone

    Sort of overlaps the Hawk Hill thread, but I have had mine (went for the 2) for a couple of weeks and really enjoying it. It's my first full squish bike and I am far from an expert rider, but happy to entertain any questions that I can answer.

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    I am looking to get my first mountain bike, want a full suspension and a solid value. I'm a father of three elementary aged kids, so I don't have a ton of time to ride. I've been riding road on and off for 14 years (I'm 46 and rode a ton as a kid, stopped in my 20s, picked it back up in my 30s. bought my Trek road bike in 2004). Looking to do trail riding in the canyon near my house. Some decent climbs, if I choose to bike to my work which is on the other side of the canyon, and some decent downhills.

    All that said, the Marin Rift Zone 2 is intriguing. I test road it and it seems like a solid value. Maybe if you could give a quick overview of your buying decision as well as your experience with the bike thus far. Then maybe we can go from there with other questions. Thanks in advance!

    I've been doing a ton of research (way more than I care to admit)

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    Not OP, but I'm in a similar situation as you LargoPQ: mid-40s, aging limbs, kids etc.

    With my aging back I realized that the medium bike I was riding was too small and I needed something that fit better. The choice for 29er was based on favorable experiences I had with hard tail 29ers and test rides of full sus 29ers earlier this season. I thought I might be able to transfer parts from my hard tail, but compatibility of parts (thru axle, boost) made this impractical.

    When looking for a new bike, price was my foremost concern. After reading about the Marin Hawk Hill and min-max component specs on nsmb.com, I figured I'd take a look at the rift zone. I was looking at the RZ2 at first but realized that there was no upgrade from the RZ1 for fork and wheels. I already had a dropper and some nice parts so I got the RZ1 and spent a day swapping some of the OEM parts with the ones I already had.

    Once on the trail the bike seemed to handle well and I did not feel limited by the lower end suspension components, wheels or different suspension design (was used to Maestro). As I said, I'm middle aged and unfit so while I could get starry eyed over upgrades and the like, the truth is, with the changes I already made, the bike seems more than adequate for my needs.

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    Yep ^^^.

    I rode a 29er hardtail, of the lower end variety, for about 5 years. I didn't have any real complaints with it, but ultimately found that the constant vibration was taking a toll on me, mostly in the form of a vague fatigue that kept me from wanting to do another lap, so to speak, even if my conditioning and energy level would have permitted it.

    I ride mostly flattish singletrack because I am a "fitness" rider and that's what's closest to me. On occasion, I venture further out to some up/down and chunk, still limited because we're talking Dallas, Tx. here.

    I also learned from the hardtail (3x9) that a 1x drivetrain was something I would really like, and I do. The hydraulic brakes are a pleasant surprise, also, as I feel more confident with one finger braking.

    On the other hand, I do not feel that I would benefit, by level of experience or style of riding/trails, from components improved beyond whats on the Rift Zone 2, which is what I bought. By the time I figure out that I hate the Deluxe RT or the Recon, or some aspect of the drivetrain or brakes, it will probably be time to replace them.

    I find the Rift Zone to be a very good ride in every respect. I'm 6-1, 220+/- and slightly long legged riding a Large. It seems to generate massive traction in turns between the suspension and the newish wider tires. I don't find it to be markedly worse in climbing than the hardtail, but YMMV. It's quite fast and very definitely eliminates a lot of the vibration, chatter, and fatigue that I was experiencing on the hardtail.

    The one thing that is different seems to be the 780mm bars. I like the openness of them and I think they fit me pretty well, compared to the 700 I was riding before, but after a couple of tree gate scares and clipped bar ends, I have become slightly paranoid. And, of course, this is something easily changed, but I have decided to give them a thorough try-out.

    Also, the steering seems to be a bit twitchier than I am used to in tight stuff, I guess where the natural tracking of the slack 29 geometry is overcome. Or maybe its the damned bars. Regardless, I think it's just a matter of adjustment on my part.

    As to the buying decision, I have kept an eye on the forums and MTB sites for what kind of things are getting attention and saw a number of very good reviews for the Hawk Hill and later Rift Zone. And the price point was very attractive. I'm a guy and an engineer, so I am very susceptible to the "gear arms race" mentality, and so am mentally armored against indulging in it.

    I saw that the Marins had the couple of features I wanted (1x11, thru axle hubs/dropouts and the dropper post) and didn't make the grotesque compromises that a lot of lower-cost bikes make and was particularly attracted by the fact that everything on the bike seems to be "modern standard" compliant, as in Boost, 1x, etc. so that the bike isn't upgrade-handicapped in many of the ways my hardtail and other "entry level" bikes are. The only thing that it's sort of missing is an XD driver, so the Eagle 1x12 is not readily available, although I believe the NX Eagle uses a Shimano driver and there are other cassettes available that allow one to cobble up a 12 if needed/wanted.

    I also had a favorable impression of Marin because when I started out, the Bobcat Trail was being liquidated on ebay and it was almost universally recommended as an entry-level hardtail. Unfortunately, there were no larges to be had by that time and I bought a lesser bike.

    You can spend another 5-600 bucks and get an arguably nicer bike, like the Canyon Spectral, or the YT Jeffsy, or root around for last-years models, etc. and maybe get a better bargain, but as I said on another thread:

    It has almost everything you need, most of what you want, and almost nothing that you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceHorn View Post
    Yep ^^^.

    I rode a 29er hardtail, of the lower end variety, for about 5 years. I didn't have any real complaints with it, but ultimately found that the constant vibration was taking a toll on me, mostly in the form of a vague fatigue that kept me from wanting to do another lap, so to speak, even if my conditioning and energy level would have permitted it.

    I ride mostly flattish singletrack because I am a "fitness" rider and that's what's closest to me. On occasion, I venture further out to some up/down and chunk, still limited because we're talking Dallas, Tx. here.

    I also learned from the hardtail (3x9) that a 1x drivetrain was something I would really like, and I do. The hydraulic brakes are a pleasant surprise, also, as I feel more confident with one finger braking.

    On the other hand, I do not feel that I would benefit, by level of experience or style of riding/trails, from components improved beyond whats on the Rift Zone 2, which is what I bought. By the time I figure out that I hate the Deluxe RT or the Recon, or some aspect of the drivetrain or brakes, it will probably be time to replace them.

    I find the Rift Zone to be a very good ride in every respect. I'm 6-1, 220+/- and slightly long legged riding a Large. It seems to generate massive traction in turns between the suspension and the newish wider tires. I don't find it to be markedly worse in climbing than the hardtail, but YMMV. It's quite fast and very definitely eliminates a lot of the vibration, chatter, and fatigue that I was experiencing on the hardtail.

    The one thing that is different seems to be the 780mm bars. I like the openness of them and I think they fit me pretty well, compared to the 700 I was riding before, but after a couple of tree gates and clipped bar ends, I have become slightly paranoid. And, of course, this is something easily changed, but I have decided to give them a thorough try-out.

    Also, the steering seems to be a bit twitchier than I am used to in tight stuff, I guess where the natural tracking of the slack 29 geometry is overcome. Or maybe its the damned bars. Regardless, I think it's just a matter of adjustment on my part.

    As to the buying decision, I have kept an eye on the forums and MTB sites for what kind of things are getting attention and saw a number of very good reviews for the Hawk Hill and later Rift Zone. And the price point was very attractive. I'm a guy and an engineer, so I am very susceptible to the "gear arms race" mentality, and so am mentally armored against indulging in it.

    I saw that the Marins had the couple of features I wanted (1x11, thru axle hubs/dropouts and the dropper post) and didn't make the grotesque compromises that a lot of lower-cost bikes make and was particularly attracted by the fact that everything on the bike seems to be "modern standard" compliant, as in Boost, 1x, etc. so that the bike isn't upgrade-handicapped in many of the ways my hardtail and other "entry level" bikes are. The only thing that it's sort of missing is an XD driver, so the Eagle 1x12 is not readily available, although I believe the NX Eagle uses a Shimano driver and there are other cassettes available that allow one to cobble up a 12 if needed/wanted.

    I also had a favorable impression of Marin because when I started out, the Bobcat Trail was being liquidated on ebay and it was almost universally recommended as an entry-level hardtail. Unfortunately, there were no larges to be had by that time and I bought a lesser bike.

    You can spend another 5-600 bucks and get an arguably nicer bike, like the Canyon Spectral, or the YT Jeffsy, or root around for last-years models, etc. and maybe get a better bargain, but as I said on another thread:

    It has almost everything you need, most of what you want, and almost nothing that you don't.
    Wow, blown away by your response (as well as Tuvok's). Thanks for the excellent detail. I'm in "analysis paralysis" mode of reading up on the different options. Your responses may be pushing me to make a decision. The other one that seems to keep me unable to move forward is the travel on the Rift Zone. Given that it's 120mm, I'm guessing that's more than enough for me, but would rather spend some time figuring it out now and making the right decision, than getting the bike and wishing it had more travel. I'm more interested in fitness than balling down a hill, definitely. But like have the option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LargoPQ View Post
    Wow, blown away by your response (as well as Tuvok's). Thanks for the excellent detail. I'm in "analysis paralysis" mode of reading up on the different options. Your responses may be pushing me to make a decision. The other one that seems to keep me unable to move forward is the travel on the Rift Zone. Given that it's 120mm, I'm guessing that's more than enough for me, but would rather spend some time figuring it out now and making the right decision, than getting the bike and wishing it had more travel. I'm more interested in fitness than balling down a hill, definitely. But like have the option.
    Glad it was helpful. I'm very pleased with the purchase. My hardtail only has 100mm of travel (and a coil fork, yuck), so I may be a "cheap date."

    And totally get the analysis paralysis. The array of nice bikes available now is absolutely bewildering. ~2K wasn't a hard and fast budget on my end, but when I read the reviews, looked over the spec sheet and the price, I was pretty compelled to stop screwing around and pull the trigger on upgrading my ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceHorn View Post
    Glad it was helpful. I'm very pleased with the purchase. My hardtail only has 100mm of travel (and a coil fork, yuck), so I may be a "cheap date."

    And totally get the analysis paralysis. The array of nice bikes available now is absolutely bewildering. ~2K wasn't a hard and fast budget on my end, but when I read the reviews, looked over the spec sheet and the price, I was pretty compelled to stop screwing around and pull the trigger on upgrading my ride.
    Interesting take. Yeah, at some point you just pull the trigger. Ever wish you had more travel than 120mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LargoPQ View Post
    Interesting take. Yeah, at some point you just pull the trigger. Ever wish you had more travel than 120mm?
    No, nothing I ride calls for more travel. I could find some stuff locally that might, but it gives me visions of broken ankles and missing teeth, so nah. I'm 52 and have always had pretty good self-preservation instincts. They have only gotten more acute with age.

    Also, at my age in Texas, I pretty much missed out on BMX. We had em, but bike parks, jumps (other than a homemade ramp over garbage cans) and other daredevil feats were not something I was exposed to, therefore I have little interest in duplicating that at my age. YMMV.

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    120mm seems to go pretty far on a 29er. Where I ride it is rough and rocky in parts with bumpy rock-armoured sections, rock-strewn sections of single track, roots, short technical climbs, steep off-camber rocks to roll off and bridges. So far the Rift Zone has handled it very well. It actually feels smoother than the 140-160mm 27.5 I was riding. Once you get used to the steering twitch, it actually helps with fine control in tight spaces.

    For the money (and likely not just for the money) it seems to be a good value at a price for a full bike that is less than some frame-only options. I'll again caveat though, that I had some parts to swap over that perhaps compensated for some of the shortcomings of the Rift Zone 1 spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuvok View Post
    120mm seems to go pretty far on a 29er. Where I ride it is rough and rocky in parts with bumpy rock-armoured sections, rock-strewn sections of single track, roots, short technical climbs, steep off-camber rocks to roll off and bridges. So far the Rift Zone has handled it very well. It actually feels smoother than the 140-160mm 27.5 I was riding. Once you get used to the steering twitch, it actually helps with fine control in tight spaces.

    For the money (and likely not just for the money) it seems to be a good value at a price for a full bike that is less than some frame-only options. I'll again caveat though, that I had some parts to swap over that perhaps compensated for some of the shortcomings of the Rift Zone 1 spec.
    Oh good to see someone else has found the steering to be twitchy, I guess as a product of the geometry. It was kind of making me feel foolish at times.

    And yeah, the fork handles some pretty rough stuff like you describe with aplomb, I didn't know if Largo was thinking of rocky rocky fast fast downhills (what I usually associate with the big travel forks) or maybe big drops or something that we don't have much of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceHorn View Post
    Oh good to see someone else has found the steering to be twitchy, I guess as a product of the geometry. It was kind of making me feel foolish at times.

    And yeah, the fork handles some pretty rough stuff like you describe with aplomb, I didn't know if Largo was thinking of rocky rocky fast fast downhills (what I usually associate with the big travel forks) or maybe big drops or something that we don't have much of here.
    Yeah, not going to be flying down hills. Looking more to get exercise in a local canyon here in San Diego. Some climbing and downhills, not planning nay anything gnarly...yet.

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    Well, I have found one thing I don't like about the RZ2. There's a bit of a mismatch, apparently, between the SRAM shfiter and the Shimano brake levers. I have large hands, so I like to move the brakes inboard for one finger braking, which makes the shifter (inboard of the brake lever) a bit of a reach for thumb.

    But if you try to flip them, the brackets interfere in such a way that you can't turn the brakes down without pushing the shifter too far down.

    This mismatch may not exist with Shimano/Shimano or SRAM/SRAM.

    Overall not a huge deal, but it makes my right hand creep inward on the bars toward 2 or more finger braking.

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    Rift Zone 1 comes through again. Had not been doing any exercise for a few weeks and had a chance to go riding yesterday. After exhausting myself on a difficult climb, I had to either walk or ride everything very slow. What surprised me was how often I was able to crawl up/over sections of trail that I would usually have to rely on momentum/speed to clear. Some of that was likely due to the wide range 1 x 10 drive train, but the geometry and whatever secret sauce they put in the RZ definitely makes for a fun bike to ride (even when you are exhausted and things don't feel fun in the moment).

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    Just wondering, can you fit a 2.6 tire on this frame?

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    Have not tried 2.6. I'm running front and rear 2.4 On-One Chunky Monkeys with no probs at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuvok View Post
    Rift Zone 1 comes through again. Had not been doing any exercise for a few weeks and had a chance to go riding yesterday. After exhausting myself on a difficult climb, I had to either walk or ride everything very slow. What surprised me was how often I was able to crawl up/over sections of trail that I would usually have to rely on momentum/speed to clear. Some of that was likely due to the wide range 1 x 10 drive train, but the geometry and whatever secret sauce they put in the RZ definitely makes for a fun bike to ride (even when you are exhausted and things don't feel fun in the moment).
    Just kinda wants to go, doesn't it?

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    Just built this up and took it for it's first ride on Friday. Bought the frame and transferred most of the parts from my Transition Carbon scout.
    I'm loving this bike so far, it seems to climb really well and was just as much fun on the downhills.
    I put a 150mm travel Revelation on the front which slackens out the head angle.
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    Where did you find the frame by itself (I presume)? Interesting that it compares somewhat favorably with a much more expensive frame. Their frames are made in Indonesia, I wonder if they've discovered sort of a low-cost frame goldmine. No one is griping about them coming apart yet, that I am aware of.

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    I bought it from someone on Pinkbike. They were selling just the frame. I don't know how they managed to get just the frame, I didn't ask. I don't know if it was a frame replacement or not because they were riding the same frame. All I know is that I was excited as hell to see it for sale because I really liked them.

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    Well, hope it serves you well. I am going to guess that you are a more seasoned rider than many of us, but we sure like ours.

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    So after a year of smashing the local trails on my Trek Roscoe hardtail, I decided to pull the trigger on a Rift Zone 1 full squish to give my aging knee's some relief. Bonus! The Roscoe boost 141 27.5 x 2.8's are a perfect fit after transferring the Marin 141 dropout hub spacers to the Roscoe hub. LBS gave me a great deal on the bike and can't wait to hit the trail. Very impressed with this bike, the geometry feels spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper_ View Post
    So after a year of smashing the local trails on my Trek Roscoe hardtail, I decided to pull the trigger on a Rift Zone 1 full squish to give my aging knee's some relief. Bonus! The Roscoe boost 141 27.5 x 2.8's are a perfect fit after transferring the Marin 141 dropout hub spacers to the Roscoe hub. LBS gave me a great deal on the bike and can't wait to hit the trail. Very impressed with this bike, the geometry feels spot on.
    Can you post pics of the tire clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST_Paul View Post
    Can you post pics of the tire clearance?

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    Will be interested to see if you get any rubbing in the back, both as a tire fit issue and a rear triangle flex issue. Are tho tires pretty legit 2.8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceHorn View Post
    Will be interested to see if you get any rubbing in the back, both as a tire fit issue and a rear triangle flex issue. Are tho tires pretty legit 2.8?
    Exactly 2.8 on schwable rocket ron. So far no rubbing but I'm not riding super aggressive. Plenty of clearance for 2.8. 3" maybe pushing it though.
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    Nice! Thanks! I rather like the Crown Gems on my 2, but I have had to ride a lot of pavement because of the weather and they seem to be wearing rather fast. Looks like a 2.5 or so up front and maybe stick with 2.3 in the rear are in the cards. Maybe more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceHorn View Post
    Nice! Thanks! I rather like the Crown Gems on my 2, but I have had to ride a lot of pavement because of the weather and they seem to be wearing rather fast. Looks like a 2.5 or so up front and maybe stick with 2.3 in the rear are in the cards. Maybe more.
    No problem. I have some local trails that are really sandy so it's nice to know that I can put these 27.5x2.8 wheels on. The ability to upgrade to a true thru-axle rear hub is also nice. I like the idea of running a 2.5 up front and will probably do that when my 29er Gems wear down. About to put a dropper on this bad boy and I should be good to go for awhile

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    What do you think of the Crown Gems? In anticipation of getting some new tires, I have been looking around and I notice the tread pattern is quite similar to a number of popular tires, including your Rocket Rons, above, with probably more aggressive side lugs. I may just stick with them. I ride mostly hardpack and loose over hard, never wet.

    They are not easy to get seated tubeless, though.

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    I find them to be really good on hard pack flow trails, no problems. Tubeless was no problem but I used a compressor and they aired up and popped lickety-split.

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    I just picked up a Rift Zone 1.. what's the widest 29" tire that will fit?

    Also, even though I'll probably wait a bit before upgrading the Recon RL fork, what would be a decent budget fork upgrade - ie next level up where I would actually notice a difference?

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    Somewhere in one of these Rift Zone threads it says the frame will take a 2.6. The fork would be a judgement call. If you're willing to upgrade to Boost spacing or if you want to stick to the original hub spacing on your bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mopartodd View Post
    Somewhere in one of these Rift Zone threads it says the frame will take a 2.6. The fork would be a judgement call. If you're willing to upgrade to Boost spacing or if you want to stick to the original hub spacing on your bike.
    For now, I just want to put a 2.6 up front. Has anyone successfully fitted a 2.6 on the Recon RL? Width-wise it looks like the fit would be fine, but not sure about height. I'm deciding between a DHF or XR4.

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    I have a 2.35 Magic Mary on a 29" internal width rim and it has plenty of clearance. I'm sure a 2.6 would fit fine.

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    Hi all,
    I am considering this bike. I understand it come with 130mm front, 120mm rear travel with 29er wheels. How does the bike ride over steep rocky section to fast flowing berms? How much travel you can upgrade on this bike in the future?
    Cheers

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    To me it rides great on downhills, especially rocky/root type. I haven't had it on any berms yet, so I cant comment on that. As far as travel, I don't know about the rear, I'm happy with the 120mm, but I do have a 150mm fork up front that I really like.

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    '18 Rift Zone

    I have a question regarding the Rift 3.

    One is for sale in my area 2018 Rift 3; owner rode the bike pretty decently since March show signs of decent use. He upgraded the wheelset to DT Swiss Spline 1900 and 30mm. And upgraded XD Sram. Everything else is stock.

    He asking $1600???

    I have 2018 Marin San Quintin2!!!. I have already upgraded my current wheelset to ozzy spanks 295 lace with I9. I love to add full suspension to mix but Iím scared this bike is light trail bike and not a decent All-Mountain. I probably upgrade the shock to 140 or 150. I would hope to take this bike just about any where short of enduro parks.

    I would love to hear some current input people pushing the limits on this frameset.


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    I have just under 100 miles on my Rift Zone 3 since January. I've ridden some pretty rough trails around southern Nevada including 2-3 ft drops. The only upgrades I've done are bumped the fork up to 140 (which I highly recommend) and I put bigger rotors on (203 up front and 180 out back).

    You can't just plow over everything like a 160mm bike, but it's a very capable bike. I've actually PR'd some downhill sections recently as I've settled into the bike. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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    Checking back in as I received a response from Marin recommending that I stick to 2.5" or less for the rear tire. If someone has successfully mounted a 29x2.6" tire on the rear, please post the details. My Bontrager 29 x 2.6 XR4 just arrived in the mail, I'll set this up this weekend and let you guys know how it fits the Recon RL.

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    Another question - the rims on my Rift Zone 1 have red tape - can I assume they are tubeless ready?

    EDIT: I shoulda taken a closer look, the red tape is just a rim strip, so I'll be removing and taping.
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    Installed the 29x2.6 XR4 on the Recon RL - plenty space. Currently pumped up to just over 40psi and will keep it at this max pressure for at least 24hrs. If I had wider rims, I could fit a 2.8 without any worries. Ordered a Rekon 29 x 2.6 for the rear which will be a much tighter fit.

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    '18 Rift Zone-rz-27.5.jpg'18 Rift Zone-rz-27.5-2-.jpg'18 Rift Zone-rz-27.5-3-.jpg'18 Rift Zone-rz-27.5-4-.jpgI just installed 27.5x2.8 Maxxis front and rear and there is plenty of clearance. I think there would even be enough room for 3.00's.

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    I just mounted the 29 x 2.6 60tpi Rekon on the rear - initial measurement is only 2.45" between the knobs and 2.5" between casings. I'm leaving it at max psi overnight and will see if it stretches... however, there is not too much room, especially at the lower chainstay. Any further increase in height and I'd be in trouble - 6.3mm gap. Slightly more space on the side, but not much more.

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    mcbiko, that looks good, a little tight, but not too bad. Post some pics of the whole bike sometime, I'd like to see it.

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    Here are a few pics of the whole bike. I was hoping the bike would be closer to 30lbs than the 32.5lbs it currently registers. I'm 5ft 6, so right between sizes...I decided to go small instead of medium - not sure if I made the right decision on that yet, but so far the fit feels fine.

    According to the specs, the rotors on the Rift Zone 1 should be centerlock type, but they appear to be 6 bolt instead - anyone have the same experience? I probably prefer 6 bolt anyway so no biggie.

    The tire width of the Rekon expanded fractionally to 2.50 knob to knob. Now I'm just hoping for a few consecutive days of dry weather so my local trails will reopen, but its not looking that promising.

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    I'm with you on that. I'm 5'10" and I'm between sizes too, large and medium. I have a large because that's the size somebody was selling and I really wanted it. It's bigger than I've ridden before, I usually ride mediums, but with a short stem and wide bars it feels comfortable.
    The bike looks good, I like the tires.

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    Sachem - how are you liking the 27.5+ wheels? Do you notice any additional pedal strikes? Part of the reason I went 29 is to reduce pedals strikes which seemed to be non-existent for me on the Rift Zone compared with my old 27.5+ Roscoe.

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    mcbiko - Actually, I have no idea. Like you were saying in your post, the weather is killing me. I haven't had a chance to ride since I put them on. Its so frustrating. I'm hoping I can get a ride in tomorrow, but I think they are calling for snow or rain tomorrow.
    I'm not sure if it will make much of a difference since I don't get many pedal strikes. I have 150mm travel in the front so I think that raises the bb a little. Plus, from what I've seen or read someplace, the RZ frame is the same as the B-17 so it should ride the same.

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    I'm thinking of upgrading the rear wheel of my Rift Zone 1 to boost - I'm assuming I'll need a 12 x 148mm thru axle, but I've noticed these come in different lengths. Anyone know the exact length needed for the Rift Zone 1? The Maxle variety is the version I was looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbiko View Post
    I'm thinking of upgrading the rear wheel of my Rift Zone 1 to boost - I'm assuming I'll need a 12 x 148mm thru axle, but I've noticed these come in different lengths. Anyone know the exact length needed for the Rift Zone 1? The Maxle variety is the version I was looking at.
    I'm not sure of the length. I think if you call or email Marin they can tell you the size you need. They are very good at getting back to you.

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    Thanks and I also confirmed with Marin... 174mm length and M12/1.5 thread pitch.

    On a different note I finally hit the trails this morning, the 2.6" tires (Rekon/Bontrager XR4) performed great - much better traction over the stock tires. I was faster too!

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    Anyone know what Formula Hubs come stock on these bikes? Looking to upgrade to a GX Eagle setup but Iím hitting a road block trying to figure out if I can just get an XD Driver conversion or if I need new hubs entirely.

    Thanks

    EDIT______

    Ok so after getting off the phone with Marin they gave me the following Formula part number

    Formula CL-148S

    according to the product page one of the technologies listed is SRAM XD System. The only thing is I cant find a XD Kit from Formula or find one listed for Formula hubs.

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    I just upgraded mine to GX eagle and used the Sunrace 11-50 cassette. The shop said they were having trouble finding an xd driver for that hub. I only have one ride it so far, but it seems good. It's a little heavier than the GX eagle cassette, but hopefully that's balanced out by the carbon wheels I threw on too

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflax View Post
    I just upgraded mine to GX eagle and used the Sunrace 11-50 cassette. The shop said they were having trouble finding an xd driver for that hub. I only have one ride it so far, but it seems good. It's a little heavier than the GX eagle cassette, but hopefully that's balanced out by the carbon wheels I threw on too


    Yea Iím in the same boat. Will probably do that cassette or the NX Eagle cassette whichever is cheaper.



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    Well... just pulled the trigger on some major upgrade parts for my stock Rift Zone 2.


    - Pike 140mm front fork

    -Guide RSC 4 piston hydraulic brakes/ calipers with 180 rotors front and back

    -GX Eagle groupset (shifter, derailleur, chain, cranks)

    Only thing I'll have to do is find a 12 speed cassette I like with an 11tooth cog. 10tooth and smaller I would have needed new hubs. Looking at the NX Eagle 11-50 cassette or the Sunrace 11-50. Just depends on the better deal.

    Luckily the groupset comes with the GX Eagle cassette that I can either keep for future use or most likely sell it now to try and offset some of this.

    Big upgrades that should last me a long while on this bike. Only thing left would be a rear shock at some point.

    Would be stuck with the same size but can do something with better performance / tuning or even a coil.


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    Upgraded my fork to a Fox Rhythm 34 130mm and my rear wheel a generic Chinese carbon boost wheel - both feel great and bike is now hovering right at 30lbs. Got some Aerozine handlebars on the way too.

    I also changed out the seatpost to a Thompson elite I had lying around. However, it appears that a setback seatpost is required for this bike - I can't quite get the saddle back far enough on the Thompson. Anyone know what the actual setback is on the stock Rift Zone? I no longer have the original.

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    Finally received my SRAM / RockShox order.

    Took a stock Rift Zone 2 and swapped out the major components.

    The fork went from a 120mm Recon RL to a new 140mm Pike Ultra RC2. A longer fork with more control in terms of tuning it. This will also slacken the head angle a little bit and Iím hoping raise the bottom bracket a touch.

    For brakes I went from the Shimano BR-MT201 at 180 front/ 160 rear rotors to Guide RSC 4 piston calipers with 180 rotors front/ rear. More stopping power never hurt and so far the pull /modulation of these levers feels way better to me.

    Drivetrain I left behind the mix n match 11 speed in favor of the GX Eagle groupset. I had to use a NX Cassette though otherwise it would have been even more money to upgrade the hubs for the XD Driver.

    Sadly Iíve only been able to mess around in the parking lot and in front of my house. Headed out of town and I wonít be able to trail ride the bike and start dialing things in until next week some time.

    Just messing around on it though it feels different and Iím looking forward to really seeing the changes on the trail.

    Iíll try and get some better pictures of the finished bike.

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    Looks great!

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    ScubaSteve....mind me asking what triggered the upgrades? do you feel the upgrades are necessary to bring bike up to a certain standard? or is it more along the lines of having the bread and being able to do some good mods?
    I bet you'd do the same if they was you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raleigh5 View Post
    ScubaSteve....mind me asking what triggered the upgrades? do you feel the upgrades are necessary to bring bike up to a certain standard? or is it more along the lines of having the bread and being able to do some good mods?

    A mix of both I guess. I work part time during the winter in a ski / snowboard shop for a major Bay Area outdoor store. During the summer they switch gears into camping / mountain biking.


    TLR at the bottom



    Because of that job I was able to get a great deal on the Rift Zone and more recently the full SRAM/ rock shox order I did. I knew originally I wanted a more Enduro specced style bike (mid travel fork, climbing, etc), buuuut with this being my first mountain bike and first bike purchase in years I played it somewhat safe after talking to some of the bike shop guys I worked with.

    The updated Rift Zone seemed to fit the bill really well right out of the box and I knew I could upgrade components as needed, namely a longer travel fork.

    When i first started riding the bike around the East Bay trails it really held itís own and seemed to ride above its travel. I was very happy with it but a few things left me wanting more.

    Then I did some riding in South Lake Tahoe and spent 2 days at Northstar. Now, Iíll be the first to say this bike was not designed to be ridden down some of the trails at Northstar but I was very surprised how well it did. It was out of its element but did well for a short travel 29er.

    Those trips to Tahoe confirmed that i wanted some more travel up front and eventually a better rear shock with more tune ability.

    After that I started looking into the brands I had access to and what parts I could get to create the best bike for me. Basically how do I take an already very capable bike and set it up for something that will last me years covering the spread of trails I will be riding.

    I had tested out a buddies GX Eagle drivetrain and loved the feel of it and how it shifted. Plus the gearing would help with all the climbing in the east bay.

    I was torn between a 140 or 150 fork. Ended up going with the 140 based on price and realizing if i went to 150 up front i would likely want more travel in the rear which I couldnít do. So 140 it was and itís been great so far.

    The brakes I was doing because I was already doing this big order and figured why not. 4 piston calipers with bigger rotors is never a bad idea.

    The best part is because all the components I pulled off are still in relatively great condition my plan is to pulled a nice All mountain Hardtail to have in addition to the Rift Zone. Basically build a San Quentin / SC Chamelon style bike. Something I can enjoy on pump tracks, jump lines and use to mix up certain trails.



    TL: DR - I wanted a more enduro feeling bike, I had access to great pricing, I wanted a 1 and done full squash bike to cover 90% of what I plan to ride.



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    Scubasteve, those are some great upgrades! I did almost the same thing to my rift zone 3:
    DVO sapphire 34 @ 140
    GX eagle
    203mm/180mm ice-tech rotors
    Reynolds TR 309 carbon wheels

    I've ridden that setup all over Las Vegas and Southern Utah and it's been great. I think I'll swap out the stem and bars and be done. The only thing that could make the rift zone any better would be if it were a 150/130mm bike, but as is it's an extremely fun and capable bike.

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    Aflax, yea the fork and rotor upgrades were the most notable to me. Really made the bike more playful and allowed me to push it down some better terrain while still knowing I was in control.

    Would love for the rear to have a little extra travel but I know at this point I can just find a better performing shock and be happy.

    The Rift Zone was very capable while stock and these upgrades just improved on that.


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    Nice looking builds!

    Same thing for me, I bought the RZ1 and upgraded most of it. I felt that it was worth it!

    DVO Beryl D2 fork @130mm
    SLX M7000 brakes (203/180mm rotors) and SLX 11 spd drivetrain
    DT 350 + WTB i29 rear wheel (MRP axle)
    Deity 35mm cockpit
    E13 TRS+ classic tires
    Brand X dropper post
    One Up composite pedals

    I loved the bike almost stock, but now it's more in line with the trails I'm riding.

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    Just curious, but whatís some of the gnarlier terrain you guys have taken your Rift Zone?

    I took my stock RZ2 last year to Northstar was was chasing down my friends on the blacks and jump lines. The bike was out of its element but I still made it through in one piece.

    Iíll be headed back to Northstar this season with the upgrades Brakes/ Rotors and bigger front fork but will still be on the stock rear shock. Would love to upgrade that soon.

    But yea, where have you taken your short travel bike where it shouldnít have gone?


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    19 Rift Zone 29er sizing?
    I am interested in purchasing a Marin Rift Zone 29er but not sure
    of the sizing. I am 5'10" 30 " inseam. I am always in between a
    Medium or a Large.
    Just wondering what frame sizes everyone is riding.
    I know that I shouldn't be to concerned with top tube length.
    It seems that the reach is more important.
    I noticed a while back that Mountain Bike Action Magazine
    stopped listing top tube length it their test bike specs.
    They just list reach and stack in the geometry specs.
    Just curious what size Rift zone everyone is riding.
    Unfortunately there is no shop that I can test ride one at.
    I did have a Hawk Hill last year, it was a Large.
    Thanks

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    Iím 6í1 with probably a 32/33 inseam. On the XL Rift Zone and it feels great.

    My wife has a Large Hawk Hill and when I pedal around on that itís doable but does feel a little smaller compared to my bike.


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    6'2" with 32" inseam. rift zone large that i have only taken a couple rides on. feels like it is the right fit for me. in fact, it almost feels like cheating compared to riding my hardtail....gary fisher paragon( ~24 lbs ). marin sizing chart showed overlap of large/x-large for my stats. i went with large because my legs are short for my height. though it would have been nice to test both large and x-large. good luck.
    I bet you'd do the same if they was you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflax View Post
    I just upgraded mine to GX eagle and used the Sunrace 11-50 cassette. The shop said they were having trouble finding an xd driver for that hub. I only have one ride it so far, but it seems good. It's a little heavier than the GX eagle cassette, but hopefully that's balanced out by the carbon wheels I threw on too
    hey aflax. do you know the weight of the stock RZ wheels? how about your carbon wheels? what carbons did you get and are they noticeable improvement?
    I bet you'd do the same if they was you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto120 View Post
    19 Rift Zone 29er sizing?
    I am interested in purchasing a Marin Rift Zone 29er but not sure
    of the sizing. I am 5'10" 30 " inseam. I am always in between a
    Medium or a Large.
    I'm on a b17 ad the geo is very similar. 5'10 with a 31 inseam. The seat tube is nice and low on these so you could pedal a large, and with your short inseam I'd say you are big enough in the upper body that the long TT will fit well. I know everyone wants huge droppers now but the 120/125mm ones marin use work well in our cases

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    Just received my CRC my rift zone today . Have nothing but great things to say about CRC and DHL.
    Bike was very well packed and showed no damage to the box.
    Came with a setup/check sheet from CRC. Someone at CRC basically set the bike up and then repacked it.
    The bike was picked up by DHL June 24, 2019 and I received it today June 26, 2019 at 16:35est. Shipping was super fast. (I live in New Jersey)
    Assembly was a piece of cake, I just had to put on the handlebars and front wheel.
    I'll adjust/set up the suspension tomorrow before I hit the trails.
    If anyone had any doubts or reservations about purchasing a bike from Chain Reaction,
    I hope this eases your concern.
    Their sale ends June 27, 2019. You can get $40.00 off a purchase now.
    Great bike at a great price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto120 View Post
    Just received my CRC my rift zone today . Have nothing but great things to say about CRC and DHL.
    Bike was very well packed and showed no damage to the box.
    Came with a setup/check sheet from CRC. Someone at CRC basically set the bike up and then repacked it.
    The bike was picked up by DHL June 24, 2019 and I received it today June 26, 2019 at 16:35est. Shipping was super fast. (I live in New Jersey)
    Assembly was a piece of cake, I just had to put on the handlebars and front wheel.
    I'll adjust/set up the suspension tomorrow before I hit the trails.
    If anyone had any doubts or reservations about purchasing a bike from Chain Reaction,
    I hope this eases your concern.
    Their sale ends June 27, 2019. You can get $40.00 off a purchase now.
    Great bike at a great price.
    That's good to know about CRC. I had questions about them a few years ago but nobody ever answered me about them so I never bought the Nukeproof that I wanted, but it's all good cause i got my 2019 HH1 pretty cheap. I'm definitely gonna buy parts from them next time.

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    The stock wheels are right about 1900 grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflax View Post
    Scubasteve, those are some great upgrades! I did almost the same thing to my rift zone 3:
    DVO sapphire 34 @ 140
    GX eagle
    203mm/180mm ice-tech rotors
    Reynolds TR 309 carbon wheels

    I've ridden that setup all over Las Vegas and Southern Utah and it's been great. I think I'll swap out the stem and bars and be done. The only thing that could make the rift zone any better would be if it were a 150/130mm bike, but as is it's an extremely fun and capable bike.
    How do you like that fork? How does it ride with 140? I have a 120 fox 34 but might change it to 130 or 140. I am waiting on a dvo topaz shock. Itís adjustable from 50-52.5-55 and with a 2.35 tire it looks like plenty of clearance to at least go to 52.5

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    DVO Diamond 140mm

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank191 View Post
    How do you like that fork? How does it ride with 140? I have a 120 fox 34 but might change it to 130 or 140. I am waiting on a dvo topaz shock. Itís adjustable from 50-52.5-55 and with a 2.35 tire it looks like plenty of clearance to at least go to 52.5
    I'm running a DVO Diamond at 140mm but I think 130mm may be the sweet spot for the bike. 140 rides great but just a tad over forked / high for the bike....imo.

    One question for me is lowering weight...if wheels are 1900 grams (that seems respectable) then it must be the vee tires??? and ???

    I've converted to XTr brakes, shifter, and going to go xt cassette / derailleur for 46t rear cog but it's pretty heavy bike. The dvo doesn't help but still wondering if anyone has started to lighten it and where they are at....crank?? Etc...

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    I didn't weigh the stock wheels or by reynolds wheels. The website says the reynolds wheels weigh 1755 which seems about right. I did notice a pretty significant difference with the carbon wheels, they just don't seem to get hung up on anything riding through rocky/technical terrain. I'm going to swap back to some heavy (flow rims/onyx hubs) in a little bit to try the carbon wheels on my hardtail, so we'll see how that goes.

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    @frank191 I really like it with that fork. I demo'd a stock one before I bought mine in the 120/120. It felt like the front end was getting overwhelmed before the rear suspension. I actually asked my local shop about putting the longer stroke DVO topaz shock on, but they recommended against it.

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    Got my Rift Zone a few weeks ago! I really like it so far! Based on pics I expected to swap the tires after a few rides, but I think they are pretty good! No idea on the weight of them. They set-up tubeless with a bike pump! Bike wheelies pretty good as well!

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    I put the same stroke topaz on it. The stroke is adjustable from 50, 52.5, and 55. I have it as 50 for now but it seems like 52.5 would be fine too. I will see at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copylatte View Post
    I'm running a DVO Diamond at 140mm but I think 130mm may be the sweet spot for the bike. 140 rides great but just a tad over forked / high for the bike....imo.

    One question for me is lowering weight...if wheels are 1900 grams (that seems respectable) then it must be the vee tires??? and ???

    I've converted to XTr brakes, shifter, and going to go xt cassette / derailleur for 46t rear cog but it's pretty heavy bike. The dvo doesn't help but still wondering if anyone has started to lighten it and where they are at....crank?? Etc...
    I dont think itís too heavy in any particular spot but the diamond is probably a bit much for the bike. Great fork but I think the sapphire 34 at 130 is probably the way to go. The nx stuff is steel so you can save a bit by going to gx or XT but not too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflax View Post
    @frank191 I really like it with that fork. I demo'd a stock one before I bought mine in the 120/120. It felt like the front end was getting overwhelmed before the rear suspension. I actually asked my local shop about putting the longer stroke DVO topaz shock on, but they recommended against it.
    Yeah the fork is the biggest weak point. I felt like that needed an upgrade right away and didnít feel the same about the shock until about 6 months of progressively pushing it.

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    For those who have swapped out the rear shock, what did you go with and what improvements have you noticed?

    Rear shock is next on my upgrade list and Iím torn on what I want.

    Really eyeing the DVO coil shock and then obviously rock shox or fox air.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba.Steve View Post
    For those who have swapped out the rear shock, what did you go with and what improvements have you noticed?

    Rear shock is next on my upgrade list and Iím torn on what I want.

    Really eyeing the DVO coil shock and then obviously rock shox or fox air.


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    i currently have a SR Suntour TriAir mounted. Got it through their 'demo to your door' program--> https://www.srsuntour.us/collections/dtyd

    still experimenting with psi and volume spacers. but i am liking the performance of this over the stock RS. not too complicated and has all the settings/capabilities i think i need.

    edit: i have got to say, i am not liking all the pedal strikes. i have gotten more in 3 weeks on this bike than i had over past 5 years on hardtail. same trails, mostly same lines. somethings got to give anybody else experiencing this?
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    A friend is selling me a Yari 160mm Fork for a very low price, what do y'all think? Would it work well on My Riftzone 2 2019?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortizalexf View Post
    A friend is selling me a Yari 160mm Fork for a very low price, what do y'all think? Would it work well on My Riftzone 2 2019?
    I think itís way too big. 140 is about the max for that bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba.Steve View Post
    For those who have swapped out the rear shock, what did you go with and what improvements have you noticed?

    Rear shock is next on my upgrade list and Iím torn on what I want.

    Really eyeing the DVO coil shock and then obviously rock shox or fox air.


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    I just got a DVO topaz. Between vacation and being sick I have only been able to ride with it around the yard. It feels great. I will update after hitting the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raleigh5 View Post
    i currently have a SR Suntour TriAir mounted. Got it through their 'demo to your door' program--> https://www.srsuntour.us/collections/dtyd

    still experimenting with psi and volume spacers. but i am liking the performance of this over the stock RS. not too complicated and has all the settings/capabilities i think i need.

    edit: i have got to say, i am not liking all the pedal strikes. i have gotten more in 3 weeks on this bike than i had over past 5 years on hardtail. same trails, mostly same lines. somethings got to give anybody else experiencing this?
    At first, yeah. Odds are your hardtail has XC geo and a higher BB. Plus, it's not sagging/compressing as FS bikes are wont to do. Finally, I figured out that the traction increase was making me want to pedal earlier out of turns, which caused a number of pedal strikes. Same could be true of other technical features (better traction, more composed, tempted to pedal early while suspension compressed). As I accustomed myself to the better traction, I carried more speed into turns and was able to resist/eliminate the temptation to pedal early, while still leaning with the suspension compressed.

    Not unique to the Rift Zone. Slacker bikes have lower bottom brackets.

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    How is everyone with 27.5 wheels like them? Is it better? Would you recommend it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortizalexf View Post
    How is everyone with 27.5 wheels like them? Is it better? Would you recommend it?
    Are you asking if people have put 27.5 wheels on a Rift Zone?

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    Are there people with 27.5 wheels? If yes, how are you liking them? Would you recommend them? What are the advantages and/or disadvantages?

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    I've seen people put 27.5+ on 29ers but not regular 27.5, you might as well get the HH if your gonna do that.

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    Yes that's what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST_Paul View Post
    I've seen people put 27.5+ on 29ers but not regular 27.5, you might as well get the HH if your gonna do that.

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    My initial thought also. And, while the RZ will take 2.6 tires or possibly wider, depending on the tire/rim combo, I would think that 27.5+ would be relatively limited, as I don't think 3.0 tires are fitting on a Rift Zone.

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    '18 Rift Zone

    I love the bike but Iím willing to let it go at the right price to upgrade to something with more travel to suit what Iím after bike/ handling wise for more varied terrain that is kind of out of the Rift Zones realm.

    So 2018 Marin Rift Zone 2

    -Pike Ultimate RC2 140mm fork
    -GX Eagle Drivetrain but NX Eagle Cassette so itís 32t chain ring 11-50t cassette
    -SRAM Guide RSC 4piston brakes with 180mm rotors front and back

    Everything else is stock. The current RZ2 can be found for about $1500 on Chain Reaction and itís a bike Iíve been riding so it shows some normal riding marks.

    Would asking $2000 seem fair for the bike with the upgrades it has?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba.Steve View Post
    I love the bike but Iím willing to let it go at the right price to upgrade to something with more travel to suit what Iím after bike/ handling wise for more varied terrain that is kind of out of the Rift Zones realm.

    So 2018 Marin Rift Zone 2



    -Pike Ultimate RC2 140mm fork
    -GX Eagle Drivetrain but NX Eagle Cassette so itís 32t chain ring 11-50t cassette
    -SRAM Guide RSC 4piston brakes with 180mm rotors front and back

    Everything else is stock. The current RZ2 can be found for about $1500 on Chain Reaction and itís a bike Iíve been riding so it shows some normal riding marks.

    Would asking $1600obo seem fair for the bike with the upgrades it has?

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    That sounds reasonable. Where are you located? My brother might be interested. I am in GA

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    Iím way out in California so that would be a hard one lol


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    CRC is about out of Marins now, certainly Rift Zones and Hawk Hills.

    So if you post it for sale elsewhere, don't have to use CRC as a guide anymore.

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    Funny thing, I have had several people riding nicer or more expensive bikes say "nice bike, dude," or words to that effect. They might be humoring me because I'm such an obvious newb, except I'm not really.

    And I struck up a convo at a trailhead with a guy with a kiddo on the back that I recognized from another trail last week (because of the kiddo on the back). I asked him if he was on X trail last week and he said "yeah, I thought I recognized you, or actually your bike."

    I suppose the blue/green of the RZ 2 stands out a bit. I am pretty conscious of other people's rigs, just because I am curious what people are riding, but I don't think I could/would recognize someone by their bike.

    I wonder if anyone else has had similar experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba.Steve View Post
    I love the bike but Iím willing to let it go at the right price to upgrade to something with more travel to suit what Iím after bike/ handling wise for more varied terrain that is kind of out of the Rift Zones realm.

    So 2018 Marin Rift Zone 2

    -Pike Ultimate RC2 140mm fork
    -GX Eagle Drivetrain but NX Eagle Cassette so itís 32t chain ring 11-50t cassette
    -SRAM Guide RSC 4piston brakes with 180mm rotors front and back

    Everything else is stock. The current RZ2 can be found for about $1500 on Chain Reaction and itís a bike Iíve been riding so it shows some normal riding marks.

    Would asking $1600obo seem fair for the bike with the upgrades it has?

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    ScubaSteve,
    I did the same thing you are doing. I loved my RZ3, but it just needed a little more travel, well at least in the rear. I had a 150mm fork up front.
    Anyway, I found a Transition Sentinel frame on Pinkbike and transferred the parts over to it.
    I would have loved to have gotten an Alpine Trail, but unfortunately Marin doesn't sell just the frame, which is a mistake I think.
    Now I just need to sell the RZ3 frame and fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba.Steve View Post
    For those who have swapped out the rear shock, what did you go with and what improvements have you noticed?

    Rear shock is next on my upgrade list and Iím torn on what I want.

    Really eyeing the DVO coil shock and then obviously rock shox or fox air.


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    I finally got to the trail with my dvo topaz air. It was a HUGE upgrade over stock and made the bike feel like it hade about 150mm travel while still being good on small bumps and keeping the same pedaling efficiency as stock. I now have that along with the 120 mm fox float 34. So much better than stock. BUT...the stock stuff is fine with people just getting into mountain biking and even for more experienced people who arenít interested in jumping or pushing too had on downhills.

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    Yes. I dropped my DVO diamond to 130mm. It's definitely the sweet spot for the fork. I've ridden the bike at 120, 130, 140 and the bike performs best at 130mm. Imo.......the problem with 140 is both the climbs (you fight keeping the front down and the descents in weighting the front / tire to retain grip) problem with 120 is you miss a little more fork going down but the bike handles very, very well...probably a bit better than 130mm. I think 130 gives you great handling and good climbing. It's my favorite.

    One other note: stock crank and chainring is HEAVY. Can drop 1/2 to 3/4 lb or more with others....

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    Also recommend a new handlebar...stock may be fine but mine had a caution sticker that scared me by saying not for downhill or aggressive riding, etc. (I've seen enough broken handlebars)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by copylatte View Post
    Yes. I dropped my DVO diamond to 130mm. It's definitely the sweet spot for the fork. I've ridden the bike at 120, 130, 140 and the bike performs best at 130mm. Imo.......the problem with 140 is both the climbs (you fight keeping the front down and the descents in weighting the front / tire to retain grip) problem with 120 is you miss a little more fork going down but the bike handles very, very well...probably a bit better than 130mm. I think 130 gives you great handling and good climbing. It's my favorite.

    One other note: stock crank and chainring is HEAVY. Can drop 1/2 to 3/4 lb or more with others....
    Thanks. The crank is next up on the list. Did you change yours and to what? I know less about cranks than about everything else on the bike. I think I can change my 34 to 130 so might do it.

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    I posted weights with pics on another forum but the stock crank arms are 688 grams and the stock chainring is steel at 136 grams. (An aluminum 30T chainring is 42 grams)....I have an xtr 9000 on another bike that I'm going to transfer over so should save about 300 grams all together.....I'm not sure about bb I need to look at it and might change it also....

    As others have said, no real need to upgrade the bike for the majority of riders. It rides fantastic right out of the box. But if you can upgrade then it's dynamite. I think fork and brakes first......

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    Quote Originally Posted by copylatte View Post
    I posted weights with pics on another forum but the stock crank arms are 688 grams and the stock chainring is steel at 136 grams. (An aluminum 30T chainring is 42 grams)....I have an xtr 9000 on another bike that I'm going to transfer over so should save about 300 grams all together.....I'm not sure about bb I need to look at it and might change it also....



    As others have said, no real need to upgrade the bike for the majority of riders. It rides fantastic right out of the box. But if you can upgrade then it's dynamite. I think fork and brakes first......
    I did upgrades in this order: bars, stem, grips, fork, wheels (including better 180 rotors and pads), shock. Probably chainring next, maybe crank and bb eventually

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    Ok. Ran into an issue with the rear axle on the RZ1. It's the modified QR and it's just not up for aggressive riding...

    Umfortunately, mine is pretty bent and in hard cornering my brake rotor rubs the pads....so it flexes a bit through the axle. I can't complain to much based on price but definitely something to upgrade (rear wheel or hub to thru axle) if aggressively riding.

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    I picked up a 2019 RockShox Sektor 150mm, I want to add it to my 2019 Riftzone 2. What do yaíll think? Should I just add it, or should I make it 140mm?

    *brand new for $150 dollars*

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    I'd go 140mm max. I think the bike is best at 130mm or 120mm though (unless you use an angleset with the larger fork). I thought 140mm actually made the bike harder to ride both up and down but that's my opinion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortizalexf View Post
    I picked up a 2019 RockShox Sektor 150mm, I want to add it to my 2019 Riftzone 2. What do yaíll think? Should I just add it, or should I make it 140mm?

    *brand new for $150 dollars*
    I had a 150mm Revelation on mine and really liked it. It was nice to know that I had a little more travel in the front. Plus I liked the head angle slackened out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copylatte View Post
    I'd go 140mm max. I think the bike is best at 130mm or 120mm though (unless you use an angleset with the larger fork). I thought 140mm actually made the bike harder to ride both up and down but that's my opinion.....
    I agree, Iíve ran a 150 140 and 130mm travel forks and I think the 130mm fits the frames geometry best; of course itís also subjective to personal preferences and riding styles. If I went 140-150mm it would be because I spent more time at a bike park jumping and clearing big gaps. Thatís not the case for me and 130mm works great for all the natural features (rock gardens, 2-3ft jumps, fast flow Singletracks, etc) here in SoCal, southern Utah, and the PNW.

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    Im currently running a riftzone 2 2018 with a few upgrades and love the bikes give it a go attitude.
    I have swap fork to a Zeron with 35mm alloy stanchions 140 mm with a 203 mm disc on the front, swapped the 180mm disc to the rear, I have a megneg fitted to standard deluxe shock, and v12 pedals.
    This bike acts like it has more than the 120mm rear travel and the megneg makes a difference. Its so soft at the start off the stroke it just seems to float over small stuff but then it ramps up mid stroke. I chased my riding mates down some hard trails last weekend, never bottomed out on the shock and was just as quick and had just as much fun on my 120/140mm as there 150/150 and 180/180 mm bikes. This bike has survived a brutal uk bike park trip and left with no problems. Its
    Yes I think a little more rear travel would be nice but I also like the challenge of picking the smoothest line, or gapping the rocky or rooty sections and keeping the speed going, on descent this thing flys you can pump every bump etc
    Thinking of changing cranks to an oval ring and maybe go 35 mm on the bar diameter but I have heard this makes it to stiff and you feel the vibs more?
    Possibly bigger tyres as well but I don't want to sacrifice the uphill climbs with slower rolling tyres. Maybe 2.5 or 2.6.

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    https://youtu.be/eQfuhyQyA9c the reason why we love the RZ. Matt on the 2020 RZC straight out of the box.

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    Just picked up a 2018 RZ1 a few weeks ago and love it so far.

    Current upgrades:

    • Bontrager Line Comp 30 wheelset w/ 108 pt hub upgrade
    • Shimano 11-spd XT (cassette, derailleur, shifter, chain)
    • Rockshox 170mm Dropper



    Eyeballing a shock upgrade in the near future.

    It's currently all torn apart to check out the rear suspension. Good thing too. The frame bearings were trashed. Maybe the first owner bottomed the shock a lot, and/or got some water past the seals.

    Even the rocker bearings were a bit notchy, so they are getting replaced too. I just knocked the old ones out, and one free from the rocker, they operated nicely. I checked the fit and found it had 0.005" interference fit, which is wayyy too much for a baby bearing like this. Seems like bad production tolerance on Marin's part. Now I have to try to enlarge these bores.

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    For everyone's reference:

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    Right on! Looks like your into it....

    Definitely consider a shock upgrade. I started with the xfusion on my rz1 and now running rock shox deluxe debonair. Definitely a worthy upgrade.

    Still absolutely having a blast on it. What a great bike.

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    What size is the rear shock?

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    Size is 210 x 50.

    I put on a dvo topaz t3. LOVE IT!

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    PSA:

    I just finished a teardown of the rear suspension and found a number of issues.

    The first thing I noticed was that the rocker bearings were notchy, and the frame bearings were trashed. At first I chalked it up to poor maintenance by the previous owner and ordered new bearings.

    Once I pressed the bearings out, it became more clear. The bearings operated far more smoothly once out of the bores. I knew this meant the bores were undersized. I would expect roughly 0.001" of interference fit for a bearing this small, but found there was 0.005" of interference! No wonder the bearings were rough.

    All 6 bores (4 in the rockers and 2 in the frame) were undersized. Reworking bores like this, to take less than a hair's width off the bore walls evenly, without destroying them is very hard without special tooling. I ended up finding a solution and designing a tool to do it. I would tell you more, but I might have something worth patenting here.

    Once I upsized the bearing bores I pressed back in an old bearing to check and the operation was greatly improved. So, I installed all the new bearings (Enduro MAX Black Oxide), and everything moves very nicely.

    I also found a lot of bind in the shock eyelet assemblies. Some of the polymer bushings were binding against the central shaft and took some light sanding on the OD to free them up.

    All this bind and friction adds up to destroy small bump compliance. So, it is well worth checking out, even on a new bike. The factory tolerances were really bad on my bike. You can check each piece of the system for free motion and attack areas that are sticky or sloppy.

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    CCS86.....maybe post some response or correspondence from Marin about this? Or something from legit/well known source?
    I bet you'd do the same if they was you!

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    That is interesting stuff. Have you reached out to Marin with your findings? I'd be curious to see their response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raleigh5 View Post
    CCS86.....maybe post some response or correspondence from Marin about this? Or something from legit/well known source?
    Not sure what you mean by "...something from legit / well known source". I am a mechanical engineer and manage a CNC Manufacturing facility. So, I am very well versed in cutting and measuring tight tolerance metal parts.

    I did shoot Marin an email about it, but being the 2nd owner of a 2018 model, I didn't have high hopes that they would swiftly resolve it for me.

    I haven't heard anything back from them yet, but it has only been a few days. The reality of a "fix" would be new suspension rocker arms and a new main frame. I sort of doubt they will just mail that out to me.



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    Anyone have dropper post issues on RZ2? Mine started sticking sometimes about 3/4 of the way up for a couple seconds then goes up. I took it apart and degreased it and that helped a bit. I thought there was a way to add air pressure to it but couldnít find out how??

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    After my new 2018 Norco Optic was stolen, was looking for a budget replacement and found a lightly used (shop demo) 2019 RiftZone for $CAD1,750

    Geometry seems very similar to the Optic.

    While local trails are mostly closed, slowly upgrading with other budget parts .
    Just replaced the stock Recon RL with a new $200USD SRSuntour Aion34 that seems to get really good reviews, and with a SLX-DTSwiss xm421 front wheel.

    Next building up a rear wheel with a Hope Pro4 hub and SunRingle Inferno25, and have a pair of Magura MT Trail Sport brakeset on their way.

    Looking forward to taking the bike out once the trails open again...
    Stay healthy !
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirati View Post
    After my new 2018 Norco Optic was stolen, was looking for a budget replacement and found a lightly used (shop demo) 2019 RiftZone for $CAD1,750

    Geometry seems very similar to the Optic.

    While local trails are mostly closed, slowly upgrading with other budget parts .
    Just replaced the stock Recon RL with a new $200USD SRSuntour Aion34 that seems to get really good reviews, and with a SLX-DTSwiss xm421 front wheel.

    Next building up a rear wheel with a Hope Pro4 hub and SunRingle Inferno25, and have a pair of Magura MT Trail Sport brakeset on their way.

    Looking forward to taking the bike out once the trails open again...
    Stay healthy !
    First, i'm sorry your Norco was stolen mate. It's real crap that someone would do that. Second, I hope you like (maybe love?) your rift zone! I had fun with it in it's stock form but then got the itch to slowly upgrade and so it began. Looks like you have a nice build on your RZ! I haven't come across many RZ riders to ask, so i'm curious to know...how's has the bike been for you out on the trails, etc?!?

    I can tell you that with all the parts i upgraded on the RZ, it's a fully capable trail bike and quite nimble on the flowy trails.

    Here is my upgrade list:
    * Fox Factory 34, 130mm, 51mm offset
    * Fox Dpx2, 210x50
    * Magura MT5 4-piston brakes front & rear w/180mm rotors
    * WTB Asym i35 wheelset with Chris King ISO hubs
    * Truvativ Descendant crankset with Sram DUB bottom bracket
    * Sunrace 11-46t cassette
    * Ibis carbon fiber handlebar, 765mm
    * Maxxis DHF WT 2.5 front, DHR2 WT 2.4 rear
    * Giant Contact 150mm dropper

    So far so good over here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.james11Bravo View Post
    I haven't come across many RZ riders to ask, so i'm curious to know...how's has the bike been for you out on the trails, etc?!?

    I can tell you that with all the parts i upgraded on the RZ, it's a fully capable trail bike and quite nimble on the flowy trails.

    Here is my upgrade list:
    * Fox Factory 34, 130mm, 51mm offset
    * Fox Dpx2, 210x50
    * Magura MT5 4-piston brakes front & rear w/180mm rotors
    * WTB Asym i35 wheelset with Chris King ISO hubs
    * Truvativ Descendant crankset with Sram DUB bottom bracket
    * Sunrace 11-46t cassette
    * Ibis carbon fiber handlebar, 765mm
    * Maxxis DHF WT 2.5 front, DHR2 WT 2.4 rear
    * Giant Contact 150mm dropper

    So far so good over here!
    Thanks for the reply. Really like the bike, prefer it over the Optic: seems to have a better suspension tune and the bike feels livelier than the 2018 Optic.

    Have continued my upgrade, current configuration:
    * RS Suntour Aion (pleasant surprise)
    * Magura Louise BAT carbon brakes (NOS) 180mm/160mm Storm rotors
    * Still running the original FSA crank (but have a RF Aeffect lying around, could shave off some weight)
    * Box Components 2 Shifter and RD
    * Kept the amazingly light Suntour 11-42 cassette (but have Box Components 11-46 available)
    * Hand built wheels: SLX/DT XM421 front and Hope Pro4/Sun Ringle Inferno 27 rear
    * Running a Bontrager XR4 on the front and Schwalbe Nobby Nic rear (but swapping the rear for Michelin Wild AM)
    * Answer SL Carbon bar (with the amazingly light stock Marin stem).

    Very reasonable weight at around 30.5lbs. Should take and post some pics...
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    Sounds like a nice build! Enjoy!

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    Some pics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirati View Post
    * RS Suntour Aion (pleasant surprise)
    * Magura Louise BAT carbon brakes (NOS) 180mm/160mm Storm rotors
    * Still running the original FSA crank (but have a RF Aeffect lying around, could shave off some weight)
    * Box Components 2 Shifter and RD
    * Kept the amazingly light Suntour 11-42 cassette (but have Box Components 11-46 available)
    * Hand built wheels: SLX/DT XM421 front and Hope Pro4/Sun Ringle Inferno 27 rear
    * Running a Bontrager XR4 on the front and Schwalbe Nobby Nic rear (but swapping the rear for Michelin Wild AM)
    * Answer SL Carbon bar (with the amazingly light stock Marin stem).

    Very reasonable weight at around 30.5lbs. Should take and post some pics...
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    My Rift Zone, fully weaponized with the new Mezzer and Mara Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    My Rift Zone, fully weaponized with the new Mezzer and Mara Pro

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    Nice, like the Manitou stuff. How much travel on the Mezzer ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirati View Post
    Nice, like the Manitou stuff. How much travel on the Mezzer ?
    It will go up to 180mm, but I am running at 140mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflax View Post
    I have just under 100 miles on my Rift Zone 3 since January. I've ridden some pretty rough trails around southern Nevada including 2-3 ft drops. The only upgrades I've done are bumped the fork up to 140 (which I highly recommend) and I put bigger rotors on (203 up front and 180 out back).

    You can't just plow over everything like a 160mm bike, but it's a very capable bike. I've actually PR'd some downhill sections recently as I've settled into the bike. Let me know if you have any more questions.
    Old post but wanted to ask. I tried the 180mm rotor upgrade out back and it didn't work out as nice as I thought. The stock brakes don't have a banjo and the hose was very awkward. I might have had my adapter backwards but it just didn't want to line up. What adapter did you use and did you upgrade the brakes as well? Anyone else who went 180mm rotor out back can chime in as well...

    Also I put on a 140mm fork but I didn't like if on the climbs. Mine came with a 35mm stem though but after swapping it out for a longer one and running the fork more plush it feels better... My 2 cents there... But I'm a novice rider...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACVMD View Post
    Old post but wanted to ask. I tried the 180mm rotor upgrade out back and it didn't work out as nice as I thought. The stock brakes don't have a banjo and the hose was very awkward. I might have had my adapter backwards but it just didn't want to line up. What adapter did you use and did you upgrade the brakes as well? Anyone else who went 180mm rotor out back can chime in as well...

    Also I put on a 140mm fork but I didn't like if on the climbs. Mine came with a 35mm stem though but after swapping it out for a longer one and running the fork more plush it feels better... My 2 cents there... But I'm a novice rider...
    the stock brakes suck even with bigger rotors. I swapped out to XT and it made a huge difference. The SLX is the way to go though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACVMD View Post
    Old post but wanted to ask. I tried the 180mm rotor upgrade out back and it didn't work out as nice as I thought. The stock brakes don't have a banjo and the hose was very awkward. I might have had my adapter backwards but it just didn't want to line up. What adapter did you use and did you upgrade the brakes as well? Anyone else who went 180mm rotor out back can chime in as well...

    Also I put on a 140mm fork but I didn't like if on the climbs. Mine came with a 35mm stem though but after swapping it out for a longer one and running the fork more plush it feels better... My 2 cents there... But I'm a novice rider...


    Sounds like you have the adapter mounted wrong. Post a picture.

    I run 180mm brakes, but swapped to XT and XTR.

    I'm running a 140mm fork, both on the stock 35mm stem and now a 50mm. I liked it with both. How much front and rear sag are you running? If you over fork the front 20mm, and add on excessive rear sag with not enough front sag, that will be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank191 View Post
    the stock brakes suck even with bigger rotors. I swapped out to XT and it made a huge difference. The SLX is the way to go though...


    Why is SLX the way to go?

    They appear to be XT, but without the useful free-stroke adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    Why is SLX the way to go?

    They appear to be XT, but without the useful free-stroke adjustment.

    https://enduro-mtb.com/en/test-shima...0-disc-brakes/

    the free stroke adjustment doesnít do anything ( I wish it did). SLX is cheaper and almost the same weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank191 View Post
    the free stroke adjustment doesnít do anything ( I wish it did). SLX is cheaper and almost the same weight
    It absolutely "does something". It manipulates the total available master cylinder stroke. When the adjuster is wound fully out, you have maximum stroke, so the pads are pulled further away from the rotor, leaving you with a longer "free stroke" of the lever before the pads make contact.

    It's actually very easy to see the effect by watching the lever while winding the adjuster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    Sounds like you have the adapter mounted wrong. Post a picture.

    I run 180mm brakes, but swapped to XT and XTR.

    I'm running a 140mm fork, both on the stock 35mm stem and now a 50mm. I liked it with both. How much front and rear sag are you running? If you over fork the front 20mm, and add on excessive rear sag with not enough front sag, that will be an issue.
    I re installed the stock shimano mt201 on another bike so no pics... but I'm fairly certain my adapter was backwards. I think the fact that the caliper mount is already Elevated off the seat stay plus with the non banjo caliper, it was super awkward. At least for me to get it to sit nice. With banjo routing I think it would at least point the right way but it seems super high...

    I have a fox rhythm 34 140mm on it but I have it set to 'plush' 20% sag off the top of my head. 72psi. More PSI and I felt the front wheel was lifting on climbs. The X Fusion out back I forget what % but I think I put 122Psi. Weight 160lbs. Feels nice there. I also think the 35mm stem wasn't helping. I went 40mm first but now at 48mm. This is my first foray into serious mountain biking so suspension could be off but that's where it feels best for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACVMD View Post
    I re installed the stock shimano mt201 on another bike so no pics... but I'm fairly certain my adapter was backwards. I think the fact that the caliper mount is already Elevated off the seat stay plus with the non banjo caliper, it was super awkward. At least for me to get it to sit nice. With banjo routing I think it would at least point the right way but it seems super high...

    I have a fox rhythm 34 140mm on it but I have it set to 'plush' 20% sag off the top of my head. 72psi. More PSI and I felt the front wheel was lifting on climbs. The X Fusion out back I forget what % but I think I put 122Psi. Weight 160lbs. Feels nice there. I also think the 35mm stem wasn't helping. I went 40mm first but now at 48mm. This is my first foray into serious mountain biking so suspension could be off but that's where it feels best for me.
    I wouldn't consider 20% front sag to be "plush". Try going to 25% if it feels tall.

    Definitely check the rear sag too. Even if it feels good, it could be sagging too much and causing your issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    I wouldn't consider 20% front sag to be "plush". Try going to 25% if it feels tall.

    Definitely check the rear sag too. Even if it feels good, it could be sagging too much and causing your issues.

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    I quoted the plush because that was what Fox calls it on the setup guide. I think I tried less psi but I bottomed it out. Don't know about the spacer / token situation. Never have opened it....

    Will double check the rear sag but I'm pretty sure I went through it thoroughly when I bought it and settled on that. I even have it taped to my cabinet. What would I be looking for though to create balance if I am at 140mm front, 120mm rear? Psi wise and feel wise? Equal sag in %? In mm?

    Also now that I think about it I had a 2.6" on the front, and only a 2.35" rear so that added some height too.

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    Welp, my 2018 Rifty developed a crack at the seat tube gusset and top tube joint. Well within the five year warranty. So looks like I will be getting a new frame.

    Understandable that stuff happens, but slightly disappointing. Kind of a plus in that the dayglo paint had faded fairly seriously in some spots. I'll have to be careful not to leave it on the rack or elsewhere where the sun gets to it.

    I will report back on the warranty claim process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    It absolutely "does something". It manipulates the total available master cylinder stroke. When the adjuster is wound fully out, you have maximum stroke, so the pads are pulled further away from the rotor, leaving you with a longer "free stroke" of the lever before the pads make contact.

    It's actually very easy to see the effect by watching the lever while winding the adjuster.

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    well neither of mine move it...and I have read that that is pretty common

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachem6 View Post
    I just installed 27.5x2.8 Maxxis front and rear and there is plenty of clearance. I think there would even be enough room for 3.00's.
    Sachem6 How did the 27.5+" work out? Did the bike feel more playful? Easier to handle? I had been debating that conversion and / or mullet but the market for 27.5+" tires kind of died out. I only saw Specialized as a legit contender there, did not know Maxxis made some... My other reservation was the pedal / bike strikes. I have terrible technique especially over those rollover log obstacles but I find I strike the Rift Zone a lot more than my other FS. Both start off at the same BB height with no weight, then with SAG the Rift Zone drops farther and in actual riding... Well it ain't pretty. Very interested in your response. Please let us know.


    To everyone else, are the stock hubs serviceable at all or has anyone found different freehub conversions? To all the ones that upgraded the wheels, was it worth it? The stock ones have that weird QR in a 141 x 9 with adaptors to 12 x 148 that I can't find a market for to sell or use on another bike and I would rather spend my money on other bike parts if the stock wheels were adequate. I just feel bad if I went and bought some and had a perfectly good set sitting on the floor.
    EDIT - I noticed that my rear rim is asym. Maybe just buying a rear hub and salvage the rim?? Or not worth that?

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    The Bontrager Line Comp 30 is a really good value wheelset upgrade. You can add 3 more pawls to the hub for double the engagement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACVMD View Post
    Sachem6 How did the 27.5+" work out? Did the bike feel more playful? Easier to handle? I had been debating that conversion and / or mullet but the market for 27.5+" tires kind of died out. I only saw Specialized as a legit contender there, did not know Maxxis made some... My other reservation was the pedal / bike strikes. I have terrible technique especially over those rollover log obstacles but I find I strike the Rift Zone a lot more than my other FS. Both start off at the same BB height with no weight, then with SAG the Rift Zone drops farther and in actual riding... Well it ain't pretty. Very interested in your response. Please let us know.


    To everyone else, are the stock hubs serviceable at all or has anyone found different freehub conversions? To all the ones that upgraded the wheels, was it worth it? The stock ones have that weird QR in a 141 x 9 with adaptors to 12 x 148 that I can't find a market for to sell or use on another bike and I would rather spend my money on other bike parts if the stock wheels were adequate. I just feel bad if I went and bought some and had a perfectly good set sitting on the floor.
    EDIT - I noticed that my rear rim is asym. Maybe just buying a rear hub and salvage the rim?? Or not worth that?
    the stock rims are decent but the hubs suck and an upgrade is worth it. The RZ2 and 3 have straight 148 boost so maybe the 1 is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceHorn View Post
    Welp, my 2018 Rifty developed a crack at the seat tube gusset and top tube joint. Well within the five year warranty. So looks like I will be getting a new frame.

    I will report back on the warranty claim process.
    Sorry to read that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    The Bontrager Line Comp 30 is a really good value wheelset upgrade. You can add 3 more pawls to the hub for double the engagement.

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    I had looked into these but at the current time they only have the original Shimano Freehub and not the MicroSpline. I don't really want to run SRAM and I had a plan for Shimano 12spd for the HyperGlide +... But still so enticing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACVMD View Post
    I had looked into these but at the current time they only have the original Shimano Freehub and not the MicroSpline. I don't really want to run SRAM and I had a plan for Shimano 12spd for the HyperGlide +... But still so enticing.
    I'm not an expert in freehub compatibility, but I run mine with Shimano 11spd XT (11-46)

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    Final (?) upgrade to my 2019 RZ 2: Michelin Wild AM 2.35 rear tire.
    Really like this bike as I feel it allows me to tackle more challenging terrain.
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    I have been loving the Michelin Wild Enduro front on my RZ.

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    I made some custom rocker links for my RZ. These let me run a 210x55 shock and bump my travel up to 140mm




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    Shift Lever position/upgrade advice

    I've been riding a 2019 Rift Zone 1 for the last year and have really enjoyed it. For the price and my limited experience with mountain biking it fits me really well.

    That said, As I've ridden quite a bit more this year than last year, I'm realizing that the position of the right hand brake lever and shift lever and not positioned very well. The stock Shimano Deore shifter has the integrated indicator which I don't think can be removed to swap the brake lever and the shifter to get better placement.

    I was hoping to get some advice on a different shift lever option without an indicator window that would give me more flexibility in where to mount it on the bar. Something that's a straight swap would be nice but the more I investigate I don't see a lot of options that would work with the 10 speed setup of the Rift Zone 1. Does something exist? Or would I be looking upgrading the drivetrain to 11 or 12 speed?

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    Boost thru axle specs

    Can someone with a 148 Boost rear hub give me the details of the thru axle? Length, thread length, and thread pitch? I have a 1 model with the 141 skewer and have a Boost wheel on the way and need to know what size axle to get. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sware20 View Post
    Can someone with a 148 Boost rear hub give me the details of the thru axle? Length, thread length, and thread pitch? I have a 1 model with the 141 skewer and have a Boost wheel on the way and need to know what size axle to get. Thanks.
    I just did this earlier in the year. I went with the wolf tooth brand. The rear is 12x1.5, 172mm

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Do be careful when threading it into the frame. After I removed the little adapter thread that the skewer went into the axle was not threading in very well. I had to take a metric tap of the same size as the thread on the axle to clean up the female end on the frame and then it threaded in fine. May not be an issue for you but just be gentle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milleam View Post
    I just did this earlier in the year. I went with the wolf tooth brand. The rear is 12x1.5, 172mm

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Do be careful when threading it into the frame. After I removed the little adapter thread that the skewer went into the axle was not threading in very well. I had to take a metric tap of the same size as the thread on the axle to clean up the female end on the frame and then it threaded in fine. May not be an issue for you but just be gentle.
    Thanks for the info! I ordered the same axle. Hopefully it wonít give me too much trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    I made some custom rocker links for my RZ. These let me run a 210x55 shock and bump my travel up to 140mm




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    Just wondering how you are liking these links so far and if you would be willing to make another set and sell them?

    I have an Ď18 RZ 2 and would love to extend the rear a little bit when I eventually upgraded that shock.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba.Steve View Post
    Just wondering how you are liking these links so far and if you would be willing to make another set and sell them?

    I have an Ď18 RZ 2 and would love to extend the rear a little bit when I eventually upgraded that shock.


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    Man, they are awesome! That extra 20mm really helps it eat chunky trail without upsetting the bike. Helped, for sure, by the fact that the Mara Pro is an excellent shock.

    There is a chance that I could make something to sell. I was debating on making myself a new set with the same travel, but a more skeletonized design. It just requires a lot more design work, because the thin floors I left in the originals strengthen the rockers significantly. But, if you wanted to buy these originals, that would offer some incentive.

    If there was enough interest, I might be willing to do a small run of them. Prototype parts like this take a lot of work, and rather than casting them by the thousands, I am milling from a huge chunk of 6061-T6, on a 5 axis machine that earns a high running rate. There is also a fair amount of hand work involved to get them finished. Time is money, and if the price is right I could find the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    Man, they are awesome! That extra 20mm really helps it eat chunky trail without upsetting the bike. Helped, for sure, by the fact that the Mara Pro is an excellent shock.

    There is a chance that I could make something to sell. I was debating on making myself a new set with the same travel, but a more skeletonized design. It just requires a lot more design work, because the thin floors I left in the originals strengthen the rockers significantly. But, if you wanted to buy these originals, that would offer some incentive.

    If there was enough interest, I might be willing to do a small run of them. Prototype parts like this take a lot of work, and rather than casting them by the thousands, I am milling from a huge chunk of 6061-T6, on a 5 axis machine that earns a high running rate. There is also a fair amount of hand work involved to get them finished. Time is money, and if the price is right I could find the time.

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    I completely understand the cost involved both with material and time/ labor for something like this. Especially as a one off type thing.

    Anything wrong with this set that you would change for a future set mechanically speaking? No binding during the travel or anything like that?

    Only changes youíd make moving forward would basically be weight savings / atheistic yea?


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    Correct. Operationally, these rockers are perfect. No bind at all.

    Bear in mind, they are designed for a 210x55 shock, not the stock 210x50. I did this because my Mara just needed a 5mm spacer pulled out to make that change. Using the longer stroke will give a bit more effective energy absorption.

    They would work with 210x50, but would give you closer to 130mm travel.

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    The 210x55 would be fine. If I were to buy a new shock to replace the stock one and I did your rockers it would make sense to get the correct size.

    I just wanted to make sure if you made a second set and I bought these I wasnít missing out on same great new design.

    The slight Weight and the backplate being there would be fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    Correct. Operationally, these rockers are perfect. No bind at all.

    Bear in mind, they are designed for a 210x55 shock, not the stock 210x50. I did this because my Mara just needed a 5mm spacer pulled out to make that change. Using the longer stroke will give a bit more effective energy absorption.

    They would work with 210x50, but would give you closer to 130mm travel.

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    I would also be interested depending on price. Especially if it works with the stock shock until upgrade. Does it effect the bike negatively in any way?

    Separately does anyone else have trouble with pedal strikes on the Rift Zone? I know partly it's rider but I have another shorter travel 29er I ride interchangeably and I rarely strike on that bike but on the Rift Zone I do 1-2x minimum a ride.... I am over forked and shorter cranks so I should not be striking as much... Is it just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACVMD View Post
    I would also be interested depending on price. Especially if it works with the stock shock until upgrade. Does it effect the bike negatively in any way?

    Separately does anyone else have trouble with pedal strikes on the Rift Zone? I know partly it's rider but I have another shorter travel 29er I ride interchangeably and I rarely strike on that bike but on the Rift Zone I do 1-2x minimum a ride.... I am over forked and shorter cranks so I should not be striking as much... Is it just me?
    My current design nets 140mm travel when using a 210x55 shock. It also requires a tiny amount of shaving the seat stay brace to ensure it won't contact the seatpost during a hard bottom out.

    I could redesign it to use a 210x50 and avoid the brace modification. The latter requires the bike sit taller for the same travel.

    I used to pedal strike quite a bit. It's much better now with the new rockers, 140mm fork and 170mm cranks. I still push the boundaries of where I can pedal though. The bike sits noticeably taller, but I like it. Anti squat and leverage curve are well preserved.

    Right now it is hard to get time on that machine though. Even at $450 / set, uncoated, with bearings installed, I would need to make probably 10 sets for it to be worth the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    I used to pedal strike quite a bit. It's much better now with the new rockers, 140mm fork and 170mm cranks. I still push the boundaries of where I can pedal though. The bike sits noticeably taller, but I like it. Anti squat and leverage curve are well preserved.

    Right now it is hard to get time on that machine though. Even at $450 / set, uncoated, with bearings installed, I would need to make probably 10 sets for it to be worth the time.

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    Thanks for the reply. It is certainly a nice bit of kit. I always get into that predicament where I have to decide whether to sink more money into current bike or accept it for what it is and put that money into a new bike.

    I run 140 mm fork and 165mm cranks but I still strike... 😔😭
    Just wondering with the people at large if that was the case as well..

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    I ran 175mm and had a ton of strikes...so much that I wondered if I'd be able to keep the bike.. . I now run 165mm with specialized boomslang pedals which are decently narrow and I have zero (very, very few) pedal strikes.

    I'd get some lower profile pedals if possible...

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    Raising the rear of the bike really helps get the BB up.

    Also, how much rear sag are you guys running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCS86 View Post
    Raising the rear of the bike really helps get the BB up.

    Also, how much rear sag are you guys running?

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    I dropped the shock PSI down to 122 or so = SAG of 28% on X Fusion O2. I used to run 130. I range from 160-180lbs depending.... i think the literature stated higher but then i found an internet thing that said lower and it feels good there now... I run Race Face Chesters which don't look super thick....

    I've had the bike for a year and half but figure I get maybe a ride in every 2 weeks if that so I'm still trying to get the fit down. I've swapped a bunch of stems, bars, fork, pedals, cranks etc so it's like a moving target. I do know that the vittoria tires I run now even though they are listed at 2.35 are smaller than the vee tire 2.3 that came oem so I lost a few precious mm there on the BB drop. Will 2.6 fit in the rear??

    Finally on the stock deore derailleur, will it accept a 46T cassette or only up to the 42T?
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