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    2020 Kona Bike Rumours?

    I spoke with a rep and they told me that they will see the new bikes in July and that they will start to be rolled out shortly after. There must be some rumours out there already! So what does anyone know? What have you heard?

    Personally, I'm most interested in the Hei Hei Trail. LBS thinks there will be a new carbon version. I'm just hoping for some nicer colours!

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    Demo rep told me a new Hei Hei and new Process 134 (27.5 & 29, carbon and aluminum) are on the way.

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    Looking forward to the new Process 134 in 29er!!
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    Any word on the new Honzo. Iím torn between buying a 2019 now or waiting to see what diff for 2020


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelMTB View Post
    Any word on the new Honzo. Iím torn between buying a 2019 now or waiting to see what diff for 2020


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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd46 View Post
    Soon you may get a juicy discount on the 19's.
    Thatís what Iím thinking too. They already knocked it down to $1340.00. Not sure if they will go any lower


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    Here's a sneak peak at the new Hei Hei. 120/120, relocated shock (two bottles inside main triangle), updated geo with slightly longer reach, all sounds good. https://www.instagram.com/p/BxeB7V6B...d=211jib11tuqf
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    Sweet! I don't mind that colour either. I hope they refresh the colours of the Hei Hei Trail too.

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    Any major updates on the Sutra ltd?

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    Curious about the 2020 Honzo steel frame color.

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    Curious to see what took them years to come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    Curious to see what took them years to come up with.
    You gotta get over it man, if you feel burned then just move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    You gotta get over it man, if you feel burned then just move on.
    We still ride konas, and have bought 9 since 2015, so ive earned my keep. Nothing to get over.

    Lets see what they came up with
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    I hope the Honzo gets a little geo update. Sliders on the carbon would be swell as well.
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    I forgot to mention there will be a third fatbike option this year. I think it's more of a different spec more than a whole new/different bike, something about a carbon fork option instead of the suspension fork on the Wozo (?), whatever is was there will be 3 fatbike options.

    The Kona Unit is also getting an update. Thru axles f/r (finally!), 29x2.6" tires, a 100 or 120mm suspension corrected fork (finally!), and probably a geo tweak. Sounds like some good, much needed updates.

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    I hope the Honzo gets a little geo update. Sliders on the carbon would be swell as well.
    The HTA could be 1 degree slacker, and the BB on the ST could be a touch higher, but otherwise I wouldn't change much. I solved both those issues with a 140mm Pike on my new Steel frame.
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    2020 Kona Process 153 specs

    I was perusing the 2019 Kona Website the other day looking for information on 2020 builds. I own a few Konas including a 2019 153 Carbon process, 111, Honzo, Unit etc. I came across the following specs which suggests that 153's for 2020 will be moving to Fox away from Rockshox and also a different front tyre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruickster View Post
    I was perusing the 2019 Kona Website the other day looking for information on 2020 builds. I own a few Konas including a 2019 153 Carbon process, 111, Honzo, Unit etc. I came across the following specs which suggests that 153's for 2020 will be moving to Fox away from Rockshox and also a different front tyre.
    Where did you find this?

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    Hmm that info shouldnít be out yet. Partial truth to the above. The bikes look good though. Got to ride them last weekend.

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    2020 site is password protected. I wish I had friends in high places.

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    Wonder if the new Hei Hei is getting more rear tire clearance. 2.3-2.4 DHR II would be nice.

    120/120 Hei Hei is pretty much the perfect bike for me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justachillin2 View Post
    Hmm that info shouldnít be out yet. Partial truth to the above. The bikes look good though. Got to ride them last weekend.
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    A new 134 or 111 would be perfect for my next bike

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    It was on the Kona website ie 2019 models, I was looking at specs for a honzo as I am thinking of grabbing a 2019 big honzo and then when I flicked to the process 153 bike, these were the specs and I thought they look different to my current bike. I think they may have accidentally released them and maybe they have repointed the site to the current site.

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    they won't re-do the 111 but a 134 is coming... 27.5 and 29

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruickster View Post
    I was perusing the 2019 Kona Website the other day looking for information on 2020 builds. I own a few Konas including a 2019 153 Carbon process, 111, Honzo, Unit etc. I came across the following specs which suggests that 153's for 2020 will be moving to Fox away from Rockshox and also a different front tyre.
    After the recall, I can understand their desire to change it up. Also, hei heis have been equipped with fox for years.

    Lastly, Looks like they're speccing the 153 29 with DHR2 and Assegai tires now? Have fun with that.

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    120/120 Hei Hei is pretty much the perfect bike for me though.
    Probably closest they'll come to a 111 substitute.

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    they won't re-do the 111 but a 134 is coming... 27.5 and 29
    Hoping they'll get creative and offer mullet 134s. Anything even slightly innovative from kona would be appreciated at this point.
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    mullet ain't coming. Hei-hei replacement won't be here before end of 2019 too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    Hoping they'll get creative and offer mullet 134s. Anything even slightly innovative from kona would be appreciated at this point.
    Why, it's a stupid fad. The only place it might have some usefulness is an enduro bike. NOT a trail bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    Why, it's a stupid fad. The only place it might have some usefulness is an enduro bike. NOT a trail bike.
    interesting. how did you come to that conclusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    interesting. how did you come to that conclusion?
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    I wish we would see some options of various trail bikes with Fox suspension, a Shimano drivetrain and non-SRAM brakes. The higher end the componentry spec, the better. Life is short. It would be nice for once to not have to gut one of their offerings to rid it of all the unwanted shit.
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    How I wish Kona would use Magura. I put MT7 Pros on my Hei Hei and they are the best brakes I've ever had. Dead silent and don't get the squeal of death when wet like sram brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    Small wheels suck.
    move on troll

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrmike View Post
    I wish we would see some options of various trail bikes with Fox suspension, a Shimano drivetrain and non-SRAM brakes. The higher end the componentry spec, the better. Life is short. It would be nice for once to not have to gut one of their offerings to rid it of all the unwanted shit.
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    It'd be nice to have AL frame offerings rather than buying a complete bike, and having to remove 95% of the parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Stuff View Post
    they won't re-do the 111 but a 134 is coming... 27.5 and 29
    Never considered a Kona...was about to pull the trigger on the new hightower but the colours are just not doing it for me (haven't seen them in the flesh) so my curiosity brings me here. Any solid info on the new Process and its release date??

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    Never considered a Kona...was about to pull the trigger on the new hightower but the colours are just not doing it for me (haven't seen them in the flesh) so my curiosity brings me here. Any solid info on the new Process and its release date??
    The upcoming Process 134 will be available in carbon and aluminum for 27.5", and carbon only in 29". ETA?? They just starting revealing the 2020 products, I'm hoping it's available in the next month or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    Never considered a Kona...was about to pull the trigger on the new hightower but the colours are just not doing it for me (haven't seen them in the flesh) so my curiosity brings me here. Any solid info on the new Process and its release date??
    They are worth considering. Based on experience and history, here is what i know:

    It will be offered carbon and aluminum
    Its frame will be heavier than counterparts
    It will be a basic single pivot suspension
    It will have modern-ish geo
    It will be aesthetically pleasing
    It will be overbuilt and last a long time
    It will be priced equally to more niche brands
    It will not have great resale
    It will be fun to ride (hopefully)

    Nobody knows for certain what kona is going to offer. The only thing equal to all the speculation of what will replace the 111, are all the competitors offerings in the 120-140mm travel range. There are a lot of good bikes available for purchase right now.

    https://www.transitionbikes.com/bikes_smuggler.cfm

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    https://www.revelbikes.com/our-bikes/rascal/

    https://www.commencalusa.com/PBSCCat...BCATID=3717907

    https://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain.../sight-carbon/

    https://intensecycles.com/collection...e-sniper-trail

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    honzo st is out too, no major changes...

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    Any links to the new Honzo
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    New Honzo ST builds are on the normal website.

    I found a spy shot of what looks like a part of the new 134 frame.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BzuewPCIDm_/

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    The new Big Honzo ST finally gets a proper front tire:
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    And the new Unit X looks gorgeous!!

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    Wow, frame only option actually went down in price

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    Everyone is finding the 2020 models on the site. I can find the regular Honzo anywhere lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Stuff View Post
    honzo st is out too, no major changes...
    Sadly, the honzo hasn't had any major geo changes since it was introduced 8 years ago.

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    Still a pretty solid ride for the money so I guess they sticking with whatís working for them. Be curious to see if any new colorways are coming


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelMTB View Post
    Still a pretty solid ride for the money so I guess they sticking with whatís working for them. Be curious to see if any new colorways are coming


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    Its a good platform for sure, but in need of some updating. Id like to see them slack it out to 66* and steepen the STA to 76* as now even the kahuna is 68*.

    Also what is up with their refusal to offer frame only options in aluminum?
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    Got a sneak peak at the new Process models. Pretty much what everyone already knew + the colorways are looking cooler than ever

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    Good point. Something is keeping their business model the same


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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronofgroove View Post
    Got a sneak peak at the new Process models. Pretty much what everyone already knew + the colorways are looking cooler than ever
    Are the 153ís the same basic design as previous years?

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    I'm sure they are. Its very unlikely that a company would make frame changes 1-2 years into a production run. It'll be new paint and (hopefully) build kits this year for the 153.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronofgroove View Post
    Got a sneak peak at the new Process models. Pretty much what everyone already knew + the colorways are looking cooler than ever
    134? 111?

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    I found out an exciting piece of news, the 134 29er will be available in both carbon AND aluminum (previously told carbon only). Plus aluminum frame only will be an option. Sweeeet! Just what I wanted.
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    process 153 27.5 and 29 stay pretty much the same, some different paint/parts spec but frame geo and look stays for another year. The 134 is brand new

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    Pretty damn excited to see that they have in store for the 134!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post

    It will be offered carbon and aluminum (positive)
    frame will be heavier than counterparts (negative)
    It will be a basic single pivot suspension (neutral)
    It will have modern-ish geo (positive)
    It will be aesthetically pleasing (positive)
    It will be overbuilt and last a long time (positive)
    It will be priced equally to more niche brands (?)
    It will not have great resale (negative)
    It will be fun to ride (positive)
    I think you've got a pretty accurate list there. I may be reading it wrong but it seems you're presenting some of them as negatives, where I see them as a positive, and that appears to be happening to Kona since the release of the new process.

    Single pivot gets picked on a lot and I'm not sure that's fair. I think that may be more industry trend and hype than reality but I could be wrong. I've not ridden a million suspension designs to compare to.

    But geo is where I see it the most. There's virtually nothing with similar #'s to the Process,. (Offering I think is the closest) because the "long, low and slack" trend has (IMO) run away with itself. The Process reach numbers are pretty optimum I think. Almost all competitors put me in between sizes, 475 mm in a large Proccess is great. Most everything else is 490-510 or in the 450-460 range depending on if I need a L or XL. Couple that with the Process short stays, a higher bb, low standover and moderate stack and moderate wheelbase (enough to be stable at speed but not ride like a couch) and I just haven't seen a lot of bikes with similar numbers.

    They either have ridiculously long reach, or longer chain stays with huge wheel bases, or really low bottom bracket height that I can't pedal in my rocky terrain.

    Same with HTA. 66 -66.5 on a 29er is plenty. These sub 65 degree head angles seem ridiculous. At least for a bike meant to be well-rounded.

    I guess I see "modern-ish geo" as both positive and innovative, even if that innovation is simply derived from sticking with something that worked rather than following runaway trends.

    For a bike with 6 inch rear travel, I've not ridden anything as playful or agile yet. Of course I'm open to suggestions.

    I don't own a Process, but I've been demoing everything this year and personally kind of feel like it's surprisingly under-the-radar.

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