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    Internal Hub MTBs, post yours here!

    It started out as a commuter project, I've since seen the light, internal hub geared bikes are great on the trail.

    Motobecane Outcast 29er frame, raw
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    FSA V-Drive Megaexo Crankset, raw
    Shimano M520 pedals
    Shimano Dynamo Front hub
    SRAM I-Motion 9 rear hub
    Mavic TN717 rims
    Kenda 2.2" Karma
    Avid BB7 front brake
    Avid Speed 7 rear brake
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    I like what you did with those bar ends.

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    Assuming the shop does everything right I’m picking my Trance up with Alfine tomorrow morning.

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    I gave up a complete 2008 XT/XTR setup that’s lighter and works brilliantly so this better be good, so far on a short road ride it felt great. Black Shimano Alfine 8spd hub with Surly Singleator tensioner and Race Face bash guard. Also had a Hutchinson Toro 1.85/2.15 tire combo put on which explains the delightful amount of mud clearance on the back compared to the Michelin’s.





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    Quote Originally Posted by wheezee
    Nice avatar Wheezee, oh and cool bike too.

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    First ride was Sunday, with its extras like a Surly Singleator chain tensioner, Race Face bash guard which I probably didn’t need and Sram SS chain which again I probably didn’t need it weights quite a bit more than the old XT/XTR setup but so long as it stays as good as the first ride I wouldn’t change it for anything. The bike feels a bit weird at the moment because I’ve now got a strong, solid feeling rear rim and a front rim best described as flimsy that you can physically see flexing on tight corners but I’ll have that fixed soon and I’ll have some lighter bits to compensate for the weight increase. Anyway, as others have said the shift is so slick you hardly notice it, all the gears feel super smooth, the hub is completely silent which I love, to my surprise it spins freely after hardly any use, it always shifts when pedalling although it does take a little longer if your really pedalling hard, the shifter works in reverse of a normal derailleur type shifter in that you release the smaller lever get into easier gears etc which I think I will be able to get used to, the highest gear is just about perfect for the fast XC riding in my area but I haven’t had a chance to take it to more challenging terrain to try out the lower gears yet. I’m running 18T rear cog and 32T front and I also put a set of Hutchinson Toro 1.85 & 2.15 tires on to improve mud performance over the Michelin dry weather tires previously on there.












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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    Nice avatar Wheezee, oh and cool bike too.
    Too kind.

    Don't stand so close, I have a congenitally infirm immune system.
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    Not exactly the best backdrop, but I was tired after towing the other bike on the trailer. A lot of bash rings from everyone out there so far. I'd have to run one on the inside of the chainring because of the Rohloff chainline, and I'm not quite sure that's legal to do.


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    my carbon swathed rohloff:




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    Good God! Well I never.
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    I cannot shake the desire to build an IGH trail bike. I built a 1x7 with Saint rear mech to try to take the edge off. Love the bike, but here I am drooling on this thread.

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    Inglis 29 Rohloff with Paragon sliders.
    Curtis updated the frame that I have had since 2002 with a new rear triangle for Paragon sliders and Rohloff cable routing.




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    You guys rock. I love your bikes. Pursuiter, Wheezee your bike in particular are almost exactly what I want in an IGH trail bike.

    Wheezee, you have an aesthetic eye and it shows in your bike. Not often I think of a trail bike as elegant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Broken
    You guys rock. I love your bikes. Pursuiter, Wheezee your bike in particular are almost exactly what I want in an IGH trail bike.

    Wheezee, you have an aesthetic eye and it shows in your bike. Not often I think of a trail bike as elegant.
    Thanks for saying so Cody, much appreciated. If you ever saw me on it, I think elegant is probably the last word to come to mind!

    Robin Mather the frame builder, is local to me here in the UK, and I think he made rather a nice job of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    First ride was Sunday, with its extras like a Surly Singleator chain tensioner, Race Face bash guard which I probably didn’t need and Sram SS chain which again I probably didn’t need it weights quite a bit more than the old XT/XTR setup but so long as it stays as good as the first ride I wouldn’t change it for anything. The bike feels a bit weird at the moment because I’ve now got a strong, solid feeling rear rim and a front rim best described as flimsy that you can physically see flexing on tight corners but I’ll have that fixed soon and I’ll have some lighter bits to compensate for the weight increase. Anyway, as others have said the shift is so slick you hardly notice it, all the gears feel super smooth, the hub is completely silent which I love, to my surprise it spins freely after hardly any use, it always shifts when pedalling although it does take a little longer if your really pedalling hard, the shifter works in reverse of a normal derailleur type shifter in that you release the smaller lever get into easier gears etc which I think I will be able to get used to, the highest gear is just about perfect for the fast XC riding in my area but I haven’t had a chance to take it to more challenging terrain to try out the lower gears yet. I’m running 18T rear cog and 32T front and I also put a set of Hutchinson Toro 1.85 & 2.15 tires on to improve mud performance over the Michelin dry weather tires previously on there.

    All please take note that EGF168 dispensed with an XTR drive train to venture into IGH. His thumbs up is high praise indeed.

    You rock EGF168.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Broken
    All please take note that EGF168 dispensed with an XTR drive train to venture into IGH. His thumbs up is high praise indeed.

    You rock EGF168.
    Why thank you! I was a bit worried the gears weren’t low enough for some of the steep sections but yesterday and this morning I did rides that had some very steep hills and the gears were great, who needs 27 gears when you can have 8 that do just as good job.





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    My Kona A in an environment it excels at (rare as it is in Vancouver).
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    Quote Originally Posted by xy9ine
    my carbon swathed rohloff:



    WTF. Who knew Batman had his own mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marzjennings
    WTF. Who knew Batman had his own mountain bike.
    I wasn't going to say anything, but damn!

    xy9ine, what is that thing? And please post action shots. I want to see that thing flying through the air or something.

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    Mine KHS AM2000 Alfine


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    xy9ine, WTF is that?????????? More details please. Who made it and price?
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    1x10 IS SO FINE on my 21.9 lbs IBIS SL-R
    11-36 XTR in the rear, 36T wide-narrow upfront

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loewa
    Mine KHS AM2000 Alfine

    Loewa, at first I thought you were using a front derailleur for chain retention, but I see cable running to that mech and the chain is running on an inner ring.

    How's it working running two rings up front? Gives you gear range out the wazoo!

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    Good god! I have never seen the likes of that before. We want details!

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    2007 Redline Monocog/Nexus 7-Speed

    I'm just getting back into biking when time permits. I rode BMX in the 80's, but haven't been on a bike much in the last 12 years. I had acquired a bike with a Nexus hub years ago, but the frame was a little short for me & my knees (that aren't what they used to be). The plan was to get a taller frame and use all of the parts from the bike I already had since I was on a budget. At first, I was lost on what type of frame to even look for (being out of it for so long), but a few places like here brought me up to speed a little. Now, I think the only stuff left from the other bike is the rear wheel, tires, seat post, pedals, water bottle cage, and brake/shift levers. Most of the parts were had on eBay at good prices. I love the clean lines & simplicity of a singlespeed, but it's also nice for my knees to have some gears. There's still a bunch of things I want to do with it, but for now, at least I'm riding again.

    2007 Redline Monocog Flight (for 26" wheels)
    Shimano Nexus 7-speed hub, 18T & push-button shifter
    Profile 180mm BMX cranks
    Redline euro bottom bracket
    DK 36T sprocket
    Odyssey pedals
    KMC K710SL chain
    Avid BB7 front brake
    Shimano roller brake rear
    Chris King front hub
    Raceface stem/bars
    Velo/Redline seat

    I got a good deal on the complete front wheel -- does anybody have a matching single rim for the rear? It's a 26" Mavic EX721 grey anodized 36 hole.






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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    Good god! I have never seen the likes of that before. We want details!
    go to Ridemonkey.com DH forum. search for 'Lahar'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue78
    I'm just getting back into biking when time permits. I rode BMX in the 80's, but haven't been on a bike much in the last 12 years. I had acquired a bike with a Nexus hub years ago, but the frame was a little short for me & my knees (that aren't what they used to be). The plan was to get a taller frame and use all of the parts from the bike I already had since I was on a budget. At first, I was lost on what type of frame to even look for (being out of it for so long), but a few places like here brought me up to speed a little. Now, I think the only stuff left from the other bike is the rear wheel, tires, seat post, pedals, water bottle cage, and brake/shift levers. Most of the parts were had on eBay at good prices. I love the clean lines & simplicity of a singlespeed, but it's also nice for my knees to have some gears. There's still a bunch of things I want to do with it, but for now, at least I'm riding again.

    2007 Redline Monocog Flight (for 26" wheels)
    Shimano Nexus 7-speed hub, 18T & push-button shifter
    Profile 180mm BMX cranks
    Redline euro bottom bracket
    DK 36T sprocket
    Odyssey pedals
    KMC K710SL chain
    Avid BB7 front brake
    Shimano roller brake rear
    Chris King front hub
    Raceface stem/bars
    Velo/Redline seat

    I got a good deal on the complete front wheel -- does anybody have a matching single rim for the rear? It's a 26" Mavic EX721 grey anodized 36 hole.






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    I like the bike. Does the roller brake work well? Do you use v brake levers?

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    My ride is a Work In Progress. Still waiting on a 38 tooth ring gear for the front, then the front derailleur is gone, along with the 44 tooth ring gear. Brand new 8 speed chain. Laced the rear hub myself, (a first) and got it close to finished tension, only to find out I botched the lace job, doing it French Lace instead of European Lace on the Mavic EN321 D. Got help from jeffj on final true, roundness and tension for a great wheel build worthy of this Clyde.

    Picked up a Tiagra shorty for a tensioner, adjusted it full in to clean up the drive train line on the high gear side.





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    The hub does take a while to break in, it does have some idiosyncracies, but it
    shifts fast and smooth, like no other I've ridden.

    Bike is pretty much Euro Spec'd save the Shimano pseudo tensioner, pedals and the SRAM cranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediSith
    I like the bike. Does the roller brake work well? Do you use v brake levers?
    Thanks. The roller brake is not the best. It's ok for relaxed biking; not for "spirited" biking. I like it when I'm putting around with the kids. Yes; V-brake levers. I wish a disc adaptor was readily available for the nexus hub.

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    Yes it worked very vell! In the first stage i don't understand what i am need. And ride 18 - 32,36 sometimes 22 , but was winter, studded tire and more, more snow - then and now 20-36 only - here, there and everywhere
    ps sorry from my bad russian english


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    Quote Originally Posted by biketuna
    xy9ine, WTF is that?????????? More details please. Who made it and price?
    as mentioned earlier, its a lahar, built in nz by an eccentric by the name of aaron franklin. he's been building rohloff based carbon dh frames for a few years now (in very limited quantities), and this is the latest iteration. i believe he's built about 15 of these so far, but has run into personal / financial 'difficulties' recently, and the company seems to be currently defunct. it's a pretty neat bike; centralized mass / low cg, super low unsprung weight, stiff, decently light (despite the weighty rohloff - 37lbs as it sits), with amazing high speed stability / bump eating capabilities. the bomber drivetrain is icing; i'll be sad if i ever have to run a dangly dérailleur on a dh bike again. frame mounting the gearhub makes so much sense; i've ridden a buddy's wheel mounted rohloff dh bike previously, and that much mass at the end of the swingarm is definitely detrimental to handling & suspension performance. obviously i'm a big fan of gearbox bikes...

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    And Hard Tail equals two IGB MTBs

    Finally found the time to finish my Alfine project.
    I'm running a 32/22 giving the equivalent of a 22/30 gear (frt ring=22T, rear cog=30T!).
    Took it out for a ride this am, gotta love IGH goodness in the morning.
    I even found an 185mm centerlock disc:
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    Nice build. Looks like a blast to ride.
    Paint job should about anti-theft it.
    Running that big ring until you get a bash?

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    Yea, I have a 32T Surly SS chainring and a plastic bash guard on order.
    I am also going to try the grip shifter, I really like my I-M9 grip shifter.
    In a week or two, I'll strip the frame and do another natural project.
    With the Thudbauster and Alfine, I'm loving my hardtail again.
    I'm just not smart enough to keep a deraillieur running right

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    Here is mine:





    it was first fitted with an sturmey archer 8, sadly it didn't last very long. I have been using an alfine / trigger shifter since February and it is still going strong. it copes just fine with jumps, drops, dust, mud and dh in general.
    G-EVO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeybike
    Here is mine:
    cool frame. you build that yourself? very dark cycles / brooklyn - esque.

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    bikes do look soooooo much cleaner with a straight chain.

    Quote Originally Posted by xy9ine
    cool frame. you build that yourself? very dark cycles / brooklyn - esque.
    thanks. Yes, it is an all stainless steel homemade bike. a shame I haven't find the time to finish it properly (polish to shine).

    this was the last modification to it:



    a second shifter to down shift with your left thumb.
    G-EVO

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    Tandem Nexus

    This is my Schwinn 1960's tandem with a Nexus 8. Just built.

    The Fork is a Trailblade

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    Alfine Pugsley

    First ride on the Alfine today, I ran singlespeed last winter. It handled a couple hours of snowy singletrack with no issues. I like.




    Running 33x22 gearing on 190 mm Profile Racing cranks.



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    I sort of proved a point a couple of weeks ago by winning a race onboard an Alfine...







    Now that winter is rapidly catching us up, I`ve had to park my commuter roady and Alfine is doing its duty on the 34km trip to work.

    Disclaimer. I now sell bicycles and bicycle tyres.

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    This is the first time I have really seen anything like this. I have a 36 hole rim laying around. I guess its time to purchase a IGH!

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    I am getting ready my town bike soon, just looking for the right fork at the moment, I will be running an sturmey archer 8. can't wait to ride it to work everyday.

    have any of you with the suspension bikes have had any issues with the un-sprung weight?
    I haven't. it could well be that I am a lousy rider so I haven't been able to notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeybike
    have any of you with the suspension bikes have had any issues with the un-sprung weight?
    I haven’t really noticed the extra weight on my bike when riding, it’s only when I pick it up to lift it through a gate or something that I really notice the extra weight.

    My Alfine is still working great BTW.



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    Missfit DiSSent meets Alfine:

    I couldn't stand the chain tensioner on my Motobecane Fantom29er, so I bought a Missfit Dissent. All the parts swapped over just fine, took less than an hour to get up and running. This in not a lightweight, I like strong and un-breakable, hence the 4.6lb frame, Tora shock and Mavic 319 rims

    Check out the sliding vertical dropouts, perfect for an IGH hub. Also look at the gussets on the head tube, very beefy. I ordered it raw/disc only, no need to strip the paint off this baby!

    Misfit DiSSent 19"
    Tora 318 Solo Air 29er
    Chris King HS
    Eason Monkeylite bars
    Shimano LX M580 175mm
    32T Surly Stainless Steel Chainring
    E13 Clear bash guard
    Shimano M520 pedals
    Mavic 319 rims
    DT 2.0 spokes
    Shimano XT 756 QR/Disc
    Shimano Alfine 8-speed
    Avid BB7 203mm/185mm
    Shimano XT levers
    Nexus grip shift
    Thudbuster 27.2mm LT
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    Vassago Jabberwocky, meet i-Motion 9

    I had an extra rear wheel with SRAM's i-Motion 9 hub, very dangerous! My Outcast29 reverted back to a commuter with a Nexus 8/roller brake. I missed having an rigid 29er with IGH. I started looking around and decided it was time to try out a steel frame, perfect complement to the i-M 9. I arrived on the Vassago JB, ordered it from TRails-edge in MI. I received the 09 frame, has different gusset on headtube.

    I love the simple look of this frame. The horizontal dropouts work well with an IGH, the adjusters are simple and effective. I had to go for the frame/fork combo, glad I did. This frame is ultra stable, reminds me of the early Ritchy frames, you could ride over a small log no hands, this frame is no different.

    Vassago Jabberwocky 20"
    Vassago Pitch Fork
    Chris King HS
    Misfit FU bars
    FSA V-Drive Megaexo 175mm
    34T Surly Stainless Steel Chain Ring
    FSA Clear Bash Guard
    Shimano M520 pedals
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    Bone White, meet....

    ...mud. This thing handles great. The Wet Cat geometery is my style, 71* head angle, 18" chainstays. Covers the single track w/style:
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    Alfine committed to Asylum

    It started life as an eBay/parts bin rigid SS 29er last fall. I added the Alfine to the rigid frameset this summer, but that frame cracked shortly thereafter and I decided to go full suspension 29er - I've probably put 26" wheels behind me for good. I only have a couple rides with the Alfine on the Asylum, but so far so good.




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    Old bike new hub. Love it. I plan to use it as a long haul rig for next year with a few 50+ miles races which I attend because the courses are cool not because I stand to place. So far so good. 2 50+ days so far and about 300 miles. Can't say a bad thing about it yet. From a King hub to this is not quite the engagement but getting used to it. Might play with the 34x18 a bit for hard days but like it so far. Mud not a problem, shifting under pressure up hard climbs different, engagement different, not bad just got to acclimate. I hate those derailluuirrrsssisss thingys so this works great for me. More range than I would have thought and makes the commute to the trail a breeze.
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    Alfine Black Sheep

    I posted a seperate thread about this bike, but figured I would add it here as well. Black Sheep custom Ti frame with extending chainstays and black 32h Alfine hub. I run singlespeed in the summer, but like some gears for the winter, and maybe some endurance events. Enjoy:
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    29er Nexus All Weather Commuter

    My Motorbecane outcast 29er mutated to this:

    Fork Surly KM 29er
    Headset FSA
    Bars Titec Jones
    Stem Forte 90mm
    Cranks Shimano DX 175mm
    Chainring 34T Surly Stainless Steel
    Bash Guard E13 Clear
    BB Shimano UL54 127mm
    pedals Wellgo SPD clipless/ platform
    rims Mavic 719
    spokes DT 2.0/1.8
    frt hub Shimano Dynamo 371 QR/Disc
    rear hub Nexus 8R35 8-speed
    frt brake Avid BB7 203mm
    rear brake Nexus roller drum
    levers Shimano XT
    shifter Alfine Trigger
    seat post Thudbuster 27.2mm ST
    saddle Serfas DDMD-200
    tires Kenda SB* or Michelin City
    fender planet bike 29er 65mm
    rack Surly

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    Great Bike!

    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter
    My Motorbecane outcast 29er mutated to this:

    Fork Surly KM 29er
    Headset FSA
    Bars Titec Jones
    Stem Forte 90mm
    Cranks Shimano DX 175mm
    Chainring 34T Surly Stainless Steel
    Bash Guard E13 Clear
    BB Shimano UL54 127mm
    pedals Wellgo SPD clipless/ platform
    rims Mavic 719
    spokes DT 2.0/1.8
    frt hub Shimano Dynamo 371 QR/Disc
    rear hub Nexus 8R35 8-speed
    frt brake Avid BB7 203mm
    rear brake Nexus roller drum
    levers Shimano XT
    shifter Alfine Trigger
    seat post Thudbuster 27.2mm ST
    saddle Serfas DDMD-200
    tires Kenda SB* or Michelin City
    fender planet bike 29er 65mm
    rack Surly

    some pix outside in 10*F

    This is a VERY COOL BIKE! Thanks for posting it!

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    The Cadillac

    Here's my Cadillac build.


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    full length shrink tubing for brake hose and shifter cables:


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    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
    Here's my Cadillac build.
    Really sweet bike!

    Here’s another pic of my on Sunday’s frosty ride…


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    Another Rohloff build

    Just changed to Magura Laurin forks (2008 spec). I keep saying that this project is finished


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    great lookin ride

    Nice RIde - What brand are the Fenders? ..they look look they work well!

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    Another Rohloff build

    Thanks...they are the 2009 Cruds

    https://www.crudproducts.com/

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    this is my new intense socom, i have had the hub for about 4 years now and love it
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    Niners RIP 9 wth Rohloff

    I am just done with my Niner RIP 9 built, here it is.

    I had built a One 9 this fall (see photos here) and after a few rides I realized that hardtails weren't for me anymore, so I got a RIP 9 frame and moved most of the stuff from the One 9 to the RIP 9 (save for the Lefty fork I used on the One 9, I switched to a Maverick DUC32 because I like the plushess of the DC32 better).

    The usual thanks to the people who helped me make it happen: Mike at Universal Cycles who keep answering my silly questions and rush order stuff to that I can spend my week-ends building stuff, to Chris and Ethan at Maverick for all their advice on the DUC32 fork, Brian and Niners Bike for getting back to me within hours (my kind of bike company!) and all the folks on MTBR.com forums who answer my posts.

    Here are a few pictures.

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    My Nicolai Nucleon from 2004





    Still awesome.

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    Just sayin'

    I shot this for Neil at Cyclemonkey
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    We bought the Lenz/Rohloff

    for my son, Miguel. He rode it for a couple of months and just loves it. He will ride it at the Level 2 High School Racing Camp at Tamarancho this weekend. I'm sure he will get a lot of questions and lot of people will get to see it. He worked with Neil at Cyclemonkey (along with Thomas of Rohloff) during the summer and learned a lot about the hub and believes in it.

    He will race it where he feels it is appropriate. It weighs in at 26.5 lbs. He will use his Specialized M2/9sp/XT/SID at 22 lbs on the flatter, dryer courses. I am hoping for a really nasty, sloppy, gritty race where the Rohloff will really shine. Whether it becomes his "race" bike or not I know it is a bike he really likes, he thinks is really special, and that is the most important thing.
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    Horrible picture, but here is my 2008 Rig with an Alfine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan


    Horrible picture, but here is my 2008 Rig with an Alfine.
    As soon as I got to about the 3rd bike in this thread I thought to myself...self...I need a Rig frame to build with an Alfine. And bammm here is a great example of one.

    typing "Rig" in ebay in a few moments.

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    Sycip with Rohloff

    My hub is up for its first oil change and possibly a bit of gear tuning. I'm anxious to see how fresh oil improves the feel of the hub. This is the first maintenance I will have made to my drivetrain since the bike was built (over 6,000 miles ago). Have to dig it.

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    New question here. Inglis Rohloff Bike

    Hello MOJO - That Inglis is VERY Clean looking - Very nice Job! The Rohloff Cabling is Great! ...Just curious what Brand of Bolt-On Skewers you are running? They look very Good!

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    Thanks.
    Delta skewers if I recall...
    nothing fancy to be sure, but they work very well.

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    Frame: Prototype On-One Inbred 456EBB (there is another one out there somewhere)
    Forks: Pace RC-41F









    Bit of a rescue job as i had gotten into this condition:


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    I gotta say wow... Now i dont know a thing about hub gears but are they taken from shimanos "trekking groups"? I mean the alfie hub? How does it compare to a conventionally equipped mtb? I need more input cuz i have a old steel fram that would love to be used again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Broken
    I wasn't going to say anything, but damn!

    xy9ine, what is that thing? And please post action shots. I want to see that thing flying through the air or something.
    Plenty of pics here:
    http://www.laharbikes.com/Untitled_2.html

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    Carver ti 96er custom with Reba Forks
    Stans tubeless front
    Rohloff on Mavic XM819 Tubeless Back

    Previous Rohloff bike was old 1990's GT Xizang in XC mode
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    trail_junkie, where did you get those axle nuts? are they aluminum?
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    11-36 XTR in the rear, 36T wide-narrow upfront

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    Quote Originally Posted by biketuna
    trail_junkie, where did you get those axle nuts? are they aluminum?

    http://www.actionvillage.com/AVI-BMX...-and-axle-nuts

    They're made from 7075 aluminum alloy.
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    Cool bike

    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill
    My Kona A in an environment it excels at (rare as it is in Vancouver).

    Man, I like your bike very much..very simple and functional - straightforward equipment.

    Makes me wanna convert from conventional to internal.
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    My 1FG "Pimped"


    Cannondale 1FG frame, , Super Fatty Headshock
    RaceFace Next Carbon Crankset
    Speedplay Frog Pedals
    DT 240 front hub
    Rohloff Speedhub rear hub
    Mavic 717 rims
    Hope Mono Mini F/R brakes
    RaceFace X/Y post
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    Here's my 05 Titus ML Ti
    Fox Talas fork 15mm QR
    XTR 15mm hub
    DHX 5 rear shock
    XTR 952 crank with aftermarket spider (uses 104 rings)
    XTR 952 BB
    All Ti bolts
    Titec Ti handlebar
    And the Rohloff hub with 40X16 gearing
    Rohloff chain guide
    Rohloff tensioner FS bikes got to have a tensioner because the chain slacks when the suspension compresses.
    Weight is 32 pounds

    I didn't know if I was going like the Rohloff. Once I figured out how to shift, I love it. I'm thinking about buying another one for my road tandem.ML R side.jpg

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    Here's mine, Genesis iO ID, can't wait to get out and ride her
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    Santa Cruz Blur LT1

    Posted in a couple places.

    I've been running a 1X9 (30X11-34) for over a year and wanted to try something new.
    I wanted new wheels anyway so I did some research and had the wheels built at www.Harriscyclery.com. http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shimano-nexus.html#8
    Found some 28mm wide 409 gram rims, 26" Velocity Blunts.
    I had the front laced up 3X to my American Classic Hub with DT supercomps and brass nipples. I had the rear laced up 3X on a new Alfine Hub with DT supercomps and brass nipples.
    The bike weighed 24.7 pounds before the internal hub and now weighs 27.7 pounds. I had to use a Surly Singleator because of all the chain growth through the suspension travel.
    I made the chain as short as I could without binding up the suspension. 36 tooth chain ring in front and 22 tooth in the rear. Very close to my 30X11-34. I have 2 rides on it so far.
    I like it but I'm still getting use to the extra weight in the rear. I do jump with the bike but only 3 or 4 foot drops. All the drops have smooth landings.
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    My new Alfined HT!

    Just finished it this weekend!

    Went on the first ride yesterday, and conquered the biggest hill in Hobart, no worries! That was with 32 chainring -> 22 sprocket. I'm considering replacing the 22 with a 20 permanently for some better downhill gearing.

    Not 100% satisfied at the moment, there was some skipping, particularly in 5th gear, when I was using the 22T sprocket. I put the 20T on today to see if it made any difference, and now it's perfect - don't know what's happening. I might consider starting a new thread about it if the 22 still skips. And yes, the yellow marks were lined up in 4th!

    More pics to come when I find a more photogenic location!

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    I'm humbled by the high coolness factor of the bikes here. I'm a recent IGH convert, after becoming somewhat disillusioned with the alleged allure of SS. At any rate, he's my small contribution to the thread: My '07 Fisher Rig, fitted with a Shimano 8-speed SG-S501, 32/20, pretty much everything else stock. Couldn't be happier.




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    Wow, been thinking about internal hub for a mountain bike for a long time, didn't know so many of you all were already doing it, see what goin back to school does for staying in the "know". I'm gonna switch ASAP. Good stuff guys and girls!

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    is an outsider allowed?

    Not a mtb, but certainly inspired by this forum.
    specs-'98 Fuji Touring frame/fork, Mavic A319 rear rim, Shimano Nexus hub, Velocity Synergy rim, Shimano XT hub, Wheelsmith DB14 spokes, TTT Motus stem, Nitto Noodle bars, Cane Creek brake levers, Sugino Messenger crankset, Time ATAC pedals, Bontrager seatpost, San Marco Rolls saddle, Phil Wood bottom bracket, Nitto lamp holder, Planet Bike computer, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires, Cuisse Elite H2O cage, Pletscher rack, Arkel Tailrider bag, Planet Bike Cascadia fenders, Shimano BR-R500 brakes, Dura Ace cables and housing, Tange Levin headset, Dinotte 200L light, Cateye taillight, Jagwire in-line barrel adjuster.
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    Hammerschmidt and Alfine, East meets West!, very nice

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    To see what works for me


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    IGH arrramma

    folks loving thos IGH's ,
    I hear that on full sus bikes they can make the ride feel odd and be prone to flats due to the amount of unspring weight in the rear wheel anyone got any feed back on this. I am seriously considering a IGH with a carbon belt drive,

    anyone know if you can use belt driv with a hammershmit?

    going through to many XT chain rings chains and cassets $$££$$££$
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    no flats for me. I'm running ghetto tubeless also.
    2007 santa cruz LT
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    11-36 XTR in the rear, 36T wide-narrow upfront

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    I think it would take a far larger weight increase than switching to an IGH setup to cause an increase in flats, if it did then just put more pressure in the rear tire...

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    I have had no flats in two years - std drivetrain or igh. I use std tires on tubeless rims or ghetto.
    I'd say the weight increase is far more improtant to the responsiveness over small stuff than to flats. Nothing that cannot be tuned with the compression/rebound on a good shock but noticible.

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    Soul Dillinger with Alfine

    Hi folks,

    Thought you'd be interested in seeing my newly built Soul Diilinger 2nd generation with an Alfine hub. But first you have to read my short story.

    So I was laid off from my engineering job of 30 years. I'm not ready to retire, but until I'm employed I needed to fill the time, and I'd rather be active.
    (30 years in a desk job has taken it's toll.)
    So I decided to build a trail bike to replace my 80s vintage Lotus Pegasus.
    (Obviously I don't ride off road much if my Pegasus is still rideable.)
    I figure if I don't get into the off road road thing I can turn it into a commuter.

    I had three fixed criteria for my trail bike: it was to be a 29er, have disk brakes, and an internally geared hub.
    (I had a 60s vintage 5 speed Sturmey Archer. I loved the internal gears, but there were problems in the design, and when the bike was stolen the 5 speed hubs were discontinued.)
    I was hoping to afford a front suspension fork, but didn't want the complication of a full suspension bike.

    So, after lurking and doing research for months I decided on the Soul Dillinger because mildly blemished frames were available at a steep discount.
    (Now I can afford the front suspension fork.)
    It also has an EBB to ease wheel alignment and chain tensioning, and seemed to be liked by heavier riders (I'm 210).
    So here are a few pics.



    The build, or at least the major components:
    Soul Dillinger generation 2 frame, medium, in GREEN
    Rockshox Reba Race 2010 with Pushloc
    Shimano SG-S501 hub with Rapidfire shifter
    BB7 brakes
    Stans flow rims
    Geax Saugaro TNT tires with Kenda tubes

    So far I've only ridden the neighborhood, proving that my biking muscles are way out of shape, and that the build needs some fine tuning on the ergonomics.

    But I don't think I'll ever have derailliers on a bike again. This Alfine is everything that 60s era Sturmey Archer 5 speed should have been.

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    I am using the Shimano Alfine 8-speed with a Schlumpf mountain drive, 53T chainring and 23T rear cog. I like it a lot; I get all kinds of low range to climb hills and more high range than I can use.
    I started out on an Iron Horse Maveric 4.5 full suspension frame...this was heavy, and it made me mad to have to leave the rear derailleur on to use as a chain tensioner.
    I recently stepped up to a Klein Mantra frame - it is AWESOME! Much lighter, and the bottom bracket is part of the swingarm, so no chain tensioner is needed. I haven't been on a trail yet with it, but on the street it rides like a Cadillac...and my average speed went up about 1 mi/h.

    They Hayes hydraulic brakes were tricky to figure out an effective method for bleeding, but I think I have it down now...they seem to work quite well (these were an upgrade for me that came with the Klein frame...was using entry level Shimano mechanical disc calipers that came with the Iron Horse).

    I haven't taken pictures yet, because I have a few more components to mount - Odysee full suspension rear rack (with B&M taillight mounted to it), and I have a much stronger rear wheel yet to build. I got a DT FR600 rim and DT Alpine III triple butted spokes....I figure I won't break any more spokes with this setup.

    Here's my complete setup:
    2000 Klein Mantra
    Schlumpf Mountain Drive
    Shimano Alfine SG-S500 8-Speed Hub
    Shimano DH-3D71 Dynohub
    Dual Bush & Muller IQ Cyo Senso front lights
    Busch & Muller DToplight Senso Multi rear light
    53T Chainring, 23T rear cog
    NO DERAILLEURS or chain tensioner
    Fox Float 100mm rear shock
    Manitou Black 80/100mm fork
    Crank Brothers Mallet C clipless pedals
    Brooks Flyer saddle
    Sigma Sport BC1606L wired computer
    Hayes Nine hydraulic disc brakes
    Odysee full suspension rear rack
    JANDD rack mount trunk bag

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    Quote Originally Posted by bstrick
    Old bike new hub. Love it. I plan to use it as a long haul rig for next year with a few 50+ miles races which I attend because the courses are cool not because I stand to place. So far so good. 2 50+ days so far and about 300 miles. Can't say a bad thing about it yet. From a King hub to this is not quite the engagement but getting used to it. Might play with the 34x18 a bit for hard days but like it so far. Mud not a problem, shifting under pressure up hard climbs different, engagement different, not bad just got to acclimate. I hate those derailluuirrrsssisss thingys so this works great for me. More range than I would have thought and makes the commute to the trail a breeze.
    Happy shifting,
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    RIP poor Voodoo. I broke a bar in the middle of a tech section and ended up breaking most everything on the bike including myself. After the ER, stitches, and looking at my frame's status I realized that almost everything was done. Great rig but just not up to par on my style of riding( Alpine). So I upgraded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bstrick
    RIP poor Voodoo. I broke a bar in the middle of a tech section and ended up breaking most everything on the bike including myself. After the ER, stitches, and looking at my frame's status I realized that almost everything was done. Great rig but just not up to par on my style of riding( Alpine). So I upgraded.
    OBTW, It's now fitted with my Alphine.

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    Like your setup - need help with mine

    I really like your setup.i bought a Monocog 29er off craigslist and want to do exactly what you did by adding a Nexus 8 speed hub. A few questions:

    What size chainring are you using in the front? I'm looking to add a 44T, but the alignment with the hub isn't right.

    What cog size are you using on yuor Nexus hub?

    What are the black ties you are using to keep the cable to the hub in place?

    I intend to use this bike as my commuter (9.5 miles) with only highway overpasses to deal with. My LBS suggested I stop my build and buy a commuter bike. I believe I'm close to finishing my bike, but may need to buy a smaller chainring since the 44T may rub if I install it to the inner side of the spider crank. Any advice is appreciated.

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    Well Xavier's dad, in case you're asking about my green Soul Cycles Dillinger 29er, here are my answers:
    What size chainring are you using in the front? I'm looking to add a 44T, but the alignment with the hub isn't right.
    I'm using a 32 tooth chainring with bash guard as supplied as part of a Race Face Evolve single speed crankset.
    What cog size are you using on your Nexus hub?
    I was using a 20 tooth mainly because the EBB supplied by Soul Cycles with the frame couldn't tension the chain with a 22 tooth cog without a half link, which I didn't have. But I like the 20 tooth, so the 22 tooth will not get used. I currently have an 18 tooth cog to ride some rail to trails, and perhaps a 16 tooth would be better. A different EBB with more adjustment may be in my future.

    If I were to convert my Dillinger to a commuter I would probably run 32/16.
    What are the black ties you are using to keep the cable to the hub in place?
    They are just black UV resistant cable ties. After make all changes to the stem and bars and settle on the final cable routing I'll likely clean up the tie wrap installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XaviersDad
    What size chainring are you using in the front? I'm looking to add a 44T, but the alignment with the hub isn't right.

    What cog size are you using on yuor Nexus hub?

    What are the black ties you are using to keep the cable to the hub in place?
    - Why run a 44? You can get a 16T rear cog, you can run a 32, 34, 36 or 38 front chainring and choose a rear cog that give a nice range.
    Otherwise, run the 44 on the outside with a 22T rear cog, turn the cog's dish outward and your chainline will be close.

    - Zip Ties?

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    Here is the bike I always wished Cannondale would build. They dont however, so I did;


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    That is a sweeeeet ride (even with that weird ass fork)!!!

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    Changed it a little, gone back to the Salsa 17 deg bars looks so much neater at the front now and is still comfy

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    It's a Mongoose Sabrosa Single Speed with a few upgrades:

    - Oury Lock-on Grips
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    - Avid Speed Dial 7 levers
    - Shimano Alfine SL-500 shifter
    - Shimano SG-S501 Alfine hub laced into a Velocity Dyad Rim

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    This might be a stupid question, but I'm sort of new to this.

    When buying a hub, do you have it laced with the rest of your wheel at your LBS?

    I want to build an internal geared bike, but don't really know where to start. I'm just reading as much as I can right now. Truthfully my LBS just tries to sell me whats on the floor, not really helpful at all.

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    Kris Holm / Schlumpf Innovations Internally Geared Unicycle Hub (on Kris Holm 24" Off Road Unicycle). Two gears: 1:1 and 1:1.5. That is in 1:1.5 gear one complete revolution of the cranks turns the wheel 1 1/2 times. Shift on the fly by tapping the mushroom buttons wear the cranks attach to the hub. Right side button is the up-shift (1:1.5), left side button is the down shift (1:1 gear). Super fun!
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    When buying a hub, do you buy a wheel as well & have the LBS lace it up?

    I'm doing research now to build my own 1x8 bike. I don't want to buy parts that won't work together. How did you guys learn all this? Trial and error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian 007
    When buying a hub, do you buy a wheel as well & have the LBS lace it up?

    I'm doing research now to build my own 1x8 bike. I don't want to buy parts that won't work together. How did you guys learn all this? Trial and error?
    People do it different ways. Some do everything through the LBS, some get parts and take the rest of the job to the LBS, some do everything at home. I think what you do depends on how much you know, how much you want to spend, and your relationship with your LBS.

    In my alfine install, my experience went like this:

    -Bought a wheel already laced up with an Alfine hub (did this because the price I got on it was less than the generally-accepted price for an Alfine hub alone)
    -Was going to get the rest of the parts through my LBS (Small parts kit, cog, shifter) but had some PayPal gift certificates and used those toward those parts.
    -Took my bike and the parts to my LBS, and had them set everything up, paid the labor, done.

    Whether the parts work together depends on what hub you're going to use. You'll need a compatible shifter for your hub. You'll need a frame with the correct spacing for the hub you intend to use, and if you're going to get a hub laced up, you need to make sure you're getting the correct size rim for your application.

    I'm sure there's a lot there that I didn't say, but I'm relatively a n00b myself, and that's what I gathered through lots of searching here, Google, and bikeforums.net.

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    MUni!

    Here's my custom internal hub MTB, or rather MTU!

    Goodies include:

    Schlumpf/Kris Holm Mountain Unicycle 2 speed hub (1:1, 1:1.5)
    custom milled dual hole cranks
    custom handlebar
    Magura HS33 brake
    Speedplay Drillium pedals
    tubeless Duro 3.0"
    KH frame

    I've also had the Schlumpf hub in a 29" and 36". Having it in the 24" is by far the most fun for off road riding, love it!
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    Here's mine, on-one ti29er with alfine hub. Loving it so far.


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    I will throw up a pic with hub in the future, I can't seem to delete the photo I thought was going to be one with all the shifters and junk.
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    Scott Ransom 40 with Alfine + Hammerschmidt. I highly recommend.

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    Nice setup!!

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    Alfine + Schmit = Interesting

    Thats a lot of chain to have dangling around... would you not be better off with different tensioner?

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    remove 2 links, it looks great
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    11-36 XTR in the rear, 36T wide-narrow upfront

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    Just Completed Project

    Internal Hub MTBs, post yours here!-igh-full-suspension-gt-1024-x-768-.jpgJust completed project -- IGH full suspension GT
    Avid cable disks
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    Fox Float rear
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    Nexus Gripshift
    Alfine IGH
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    18T rear sprocket, 32T chainring
    Going to make a few changes to improve.
    Rides good

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    Very nice…I really miss my Alfine, so much fun to use.

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    New question here.

    What happened to your Alfine EGF ?

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    I sold the Trance and got two 29ers, one is a rigid SS which is what I’m using as a winter bike now. The Alfine was great, I just didn’t like 26in wheels any more...

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    Maybe I'll end up going the same way one day.

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    My new to me 2005 Gary Fisher Rig... Now with added Alfine of course...





    Bought the bike a few weeks ago (pretty much stock GF Rig SS), junked the brakes and fitted Shimano, then bought the Alfine hub and got building... Shifter finally turned up after a delay this morning, so fitted it all and just taken it for a spin up and down the road to check it all works! Can't wait to get it offorad...

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    Nice...,
    Welcome to the club.

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    Ti Bride - Carver 96er with Rohloff


    Carver Custom 96er - sliding OEM dropout
    Rohloff Rear Hub on Mavic XM819's
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    Front Stans 29er tubeless wheel with Reba Forks.
    Brakes XTR disc front XTR rim rear
    Thompson Seatpost / Ritchey WCS seat / Ritchey WCS stem
    Easton XC90 bar

    Need to weigh it but prob 27lbs.
    Going to buy / try a 650b wheel in front
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    Wink

    Here's my Alfine equiped 700c mountain bike with road tires( Giant Seek Zero )

    It rides and shifts like a dream.
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    Smile

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    Too bad it's pouring rain outside right now ;(
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    Nice looking ride -- reminds me of Mongoose Sabrosa with alfine equiped.
    I see your suspension seatpost -- how about putting some suspension forks up front ?

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    Winter commuter :



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    irrah: What are you using for a shifter?

    Nice bikes. I'm converting my commuter bike to Alfine and the idea of using it for MTB applications seems absolutely awesome.
    Moving the soul with two wheels.
    I have a slight cycling addiction.

    Now living in Nagoya City, Japan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Geo Guy
    irrah: What are you using for a shifter?

    Nice bikes. I'm converting my commuter bike to Alfine and the idea of using it for MTB applications seems absolutely awesome.
    Hi,

    Jtek bar-end shifter and DIY mounting bracket.

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    Santa's Rohloff Revealed!

    He made Neil at Cyclemonkey promise not to open this until Christmas. We figured he's pretty busy right now and who's gonna squeal? The round red thing? It's not Rudolph but an electric assist using a plug-in charger. It is limited to 20 mph by a governor. A loaded sled gets pretty heavy.

    Merry Christmas!
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    Mike what are the wires running to the mounting bracket of the motor for? I see that they are also connected to an old style cable hanger, and look like they are attached to the topmost seatstay.

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    SS rohloff

    That's my
    Intense SS
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    Quote Originally Posted by dru

    ...what are the wires running to the mounting bracket of the motor for?
    I was curious, too. They're used to tension the drive chain. Here's the install instructions:

    http://cleverchimp.com/products/stok.../installation/
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    Loved putting it together, and love riding it. Still working onthe cockpit setup





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    Those new laser etch hubs are really nice.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fokof
    Those new laser etch hubs are really nice.....
    yeah, the anodizing is great too....pity it's all dirty now. At least it cleans well...

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    My Cove G Spot with Rohloff:



    And an Inbred 456:


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    Do you swap wheels or do you have 2 rohloffs?
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    Wheels, cranks, brakes, shifter and bars all get swapped. Two Rohloffs would just be gratuitous.

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    Sweet G Spot!

    How did you manage the chain tension on your G Spot- halflinks?

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    36:16 happens to be a magic ratio, good strong chain and it's been trouble free.

    I used this tool to work out what ratios would work: click here

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    My Alfined Inbred.
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    here's our demo

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    Scott Endorphin's been Rohloffed

    So after years of indecision about the Rohloff here is my finished product.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4538629022/" title="DSCF0791 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4538629022_7d6794b337.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSCF0791" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4538629170/" title="DSCF0792 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4538629170_a640b372d9.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="DSCF0792" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4537999253/" title="DSCF0793 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/4537999253_7322d78380.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSCF0793" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4538629562/" title="DSCF0795 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4538629562_c3b0cd8967.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="DSCF0795" /></a>
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    Quote Originally Posted by justilew
    So after years of indecision about the Rohloff here is my finished product.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4538629022/" title="DSCF0791 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4538629022_7d6794b337.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSCF0791" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4538629170/" title="DSCF0792 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4538629170_a640b372d9.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="DSCF0792" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4537999253/" title="DSCF0793 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/4537999253_7322d78380.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSCF0793" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4538629562/" title="DSCF0795 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4538629562_c3b0cd8967.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="DSCF0795" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4537999707/" title="DSCF0796 by justilew, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4537999707_f0e3b68a46.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSCF0796" /></a>
    Let me be the first to say that this looks fantastic!!!

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    Rohloff Raleigh

    Bought a used Rohloff hub this past winter, had Cyclemonkey in Albany CA do some work on it and build up the wheel. The bike is finally coming together, though I am looking at possibly changing out the 38t chain ring to a 40t. Before the IGH, had added the carbon fork, Thomson seat post and BB7s. So far great fun, though still need to do some trail test rides.






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    Ended up turning my Gary Fisher Rig (pictured earlier in this thread) into an On One Inbred 29er in the end... Found the Rig a bit too long, and a bit too Aluminium for my tastes, so bought a Purple Inbred frame... And since I built it up, it's been my most ridden bike for sure. I absolutely love it!





    Since the photos were taken, I have serviced the forks and upped them to 100mm of travel, which has made the bike handle even better and means it can now be ridden down things like you would a 26" wheeled DH bike, it's that confidence inspiring!

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    Wow markyboy1980 thats a great on one very nice!

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    New frame same Rohloff.

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    Its in the works. Started off as a Raleigh XXIX. With some extensive mods its now a Alfine 8 with a belt drive.



    Build thread here https://forums.mtbr.com/frame-building/alfine-belt-drive-29er-project-617192.html

    After I get back from vacation in a couple of weeks I'm getting it painted. And its going on a diet.

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    I think my bike is the oldest with an internal hub. 1936 Ohio built Mercury with a Nexus 8/rollerbrake rear and a Sturmey drum up front.



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    Wow...

    Tim, read through your build thread, amazing, you are one capable/prepared guy. I didn't buy my XXIX with the thought of putting an IGH on it, though I had been checking out Rohloff hubs for a while. Took the plunge, bought a used one, knowing the XXIX with the EBB would allow the set up to be strait forward. The back end is definitely heavy... looking forward to seeing your painted build.

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    sandmag....lots of nice details on that frame. great to see it up and running.

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    Nice frame/bike - well done.
    Only thing I might like different are the pedals.

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    +3 on the sweet build sandman... it's cool to see an example of a vintage frame build, helps me see where some contemporary designers are drawing inspiration from.

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    Oh how i want a Speed Hub.... but no money . Maybe I can sell one of the kids...I'm not recomending a belt drive/ Alfine combo for MTB use unless you really like pain. Don't get me wrong the bike rides great its just with such a narrow chain line and the pain of getting it to work right. I hope the Alfine 11 is better.

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    I liked the idea of using a carbon belt drive in conjunction with the Rohloff, but never seriously considered it as an option. If I was going that route, my route would have been to get a carbon belt drive compatible frame, I don't have the metal working knowledge/tools/access to tools that you have. Also, the Rohloff purchase and then disc brake conversion/wheel build already cost enough money. I see the Rohloff as a long term investment, the Raleigh edition is the first of hopefully a few builds.

    FWIW, I bought the hub off of eBay, seems to be fine. There was a speedhub that recently sold on eBay for ~$900, disc brake ready, built into a (touring) wheel, though it had a bolt on axle. If you don't mind buying used, might be something to look at.

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    Here's Mine....

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    Enjoy,

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    Sweet solar setup you've got there. Any details?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought
    Sweet solar setup you've got there. Any details?
    Mate,

    It's a 20W panel that feeds into a 12 AH PS series Century deep cycle sealed lead acid battery. I don't bother with a regulator as I have a Panasonic Tough Book coupled to it 90% of the time. I also charge the satellite phone and camera batteries off it.

    It all works well in high solar radiation situations but in our lower South West it sucks because the useful radiation is very low and sun hours per day drop off drastically. Not to mention alternating between shadow and sunlight in the forest.

    For the above reason I'm now discussing having a brushless 100W generator made, I'm going to turn it into a front hub, the catching point is how to disconnect it when going uphill. ie I only want it generating when going downhill or on a flat with a tail wind as 100Watts is quite a resistance.

    I have a manufacture in Melbourne who is quite prepared to give it a go for $750 AU.

    Al

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    What a setup! How do you hang the panniers off your front fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airspeed
    What a setup! How do you hang the panniers off your front fork?

    Mate, simple really, because they're Maverick SC32's I have just used a pipe 'U' bolt type clamp. It's a bit close on the LHS looking from the front 'cuse the wheel has a minor offset....must fix it one day.....

    EDIT.... Don't over tighten the 'U' clamps because it'll distort the fork housing.

    Some pics for you.

    By using the Mavericks it means the weight of the pannier load is not 'unsprung' weight. This means the suspension isn't having to pick up that weight on every bump it works on.

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    Weight Weenie Rohloff

    Here is my new weight weenie build around the Rohloff. Currently the bike complete weighs 22lbs which after I change the fork, seat post, saddle and pedals will be closer to 20-21lbs. I decided to circumvent the cable box(external shift mech) by glueing on some cables stops. The bike as a whole is very quick and responsive, an excellent race bike.
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    Long time coming, but here it is built.

    2009 anodized Chameleon with Rohloff




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    Greetings from Germany, 2010 Gary Fisher Paragon, Custom build






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    Quote Originally Posted by justilew
    Here is my new weight weenie build around the Rohloff. Currently the bike complete weighs 22lbs which after I change the fork, seat post, saddle and pedals will be closer to 20-21lbs. I decided to circumvent the cable box(external shift mech) by glueing on some cables stops. The bike as a whole is very quick and responsive, an excellent race bike.
    I can't see how you tension the chain...do you have a EBB?

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    1939 Schwinn DX Retro-mod with Sturmey Archer 8-speed

    Finished the build today. Very happy with the results
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    Frame: 1939 Schwinn DX "Schwinn Ace", S/N: B21178
    Fork: NOS Tange TX-1200
    Headset: NOS Tange MX-2
    Stem: Ashtabula (1978)
    Handlebar: 90's BMX cruiser Answer Alumilite 7075
    Grips: Ritchey True Grips (contemporary)
    Brake Levers: NOS/NIB 1987 Dia Compe AD 290 4-finger levers in grey
    Chain: KMC BMX Z-chain in silver
    Cranks: 175mm TA ProVis 5 anniversary edition with retro stickers
    Chainring: TA 30T
    Bottom Bracket: Tange 68x122.5 with TruVativ bottom bracket adapter (both contemporary)
    Pedals: NOS MKS BMX-7
    Rims: Araya 7C 26x1.75. NOS silver, stripped and re-anodized red
    Hubs: Sturmey Archer X-RD8(W) rear; X-FD front
    Tires: Cheng Shin C693 26x2.125
    Saddle: Brooks B-72 w/ chrome rails
    Seatpost: Custom turned solid 6061, clear anodized
    Seatpost Binder: Campy

    Weight: 38 lbs of klunker fun

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    That is seriously cool, thanks for posting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy
    Awesome build! well done.

    Can you tell me about the torque arm clamp, is it a Sturmey Archer part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipRoar
    Awesome build! well done.

    Can you tell me about the torque arm clamp, is it a Sturmey Archer part?
    Thanks!

    No, I couldn't find a 1" brake arm clip, so I fashioned this out of a MX BMX hinged seatpost clamp.

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    Really liking these vintage rebuilds, sweet rig! What kind of budget range is a person looking at for such a project?

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    WOW.

    That is authentic retro to the nth degree. A beautiful representation of the beginning of this sport.

    I can't stop looking.

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    I can't see how you tension the chain...do you have a EBB?
    Yes, I have an EBB from Forward Components.

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    Alfine Foes FXR

    Just completed build......





    Now for the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everett37
    Really liking these vintage rebuilds, sweet rig! What kind of budget range is a person looking at for such a project?
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy
    The budget was more than my wife probably cares to know about, but I think I have around $1.3k into it or so... a klunker build really tends to nickel-and-dime you.

    But I smile every time I ride it

    Keep on klunkin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everett37
    Really liking these vintage rebuilds, sweet rig! What kind of budget range is a person looking at for such a project?
    I will break it down for you:
    1936 Mercury Frame + Fork = $65
    Wheels/ Nexus hub with shfter = $449
    Skull Skates bar = $90 shipped
    Cranks = $160
    Tires $50
    Used pedals $50
    Brooks saddle $60
    Alloy rod seatpost $15
    Stem $15
    Chain $21
    Powder coat $75
    Magura Levers free
    Bottom bracket adaptor $15
    Parts i bought that I did not use in the end $150

    In the end I spent about $1250 maybe a bit more, I ride this bike every day to and from work and even on the trails. It can be done much cheaper if you are patient. I am doing another using mostly original parts that should come out much cheaper. I am working on getting a Schwinn DX like J's that will probably cost alot more.

    Is it practical? No. Is it fast? Not really. Is it fun? Hell yes! Is it comfy? Oh yeah. Does it totally kick ass and make me smile like a kid everytime I ride it? Yep!

    These bikes aren't for everyone but I have taken this thing on all my local trails and I have yet to find anything it can't handle.

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    Its finally built and Im really loving the Rohloff. Definitely takes some getting used too initially but Im a believer now! Thanks to all who answered my many questions!








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    welcome to the club...we get attached to our Rohloff's!

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    My new 29er inbred with alfine. Love it. Fits me nicely and love the shifting of the Alfine. Looking forward to the new 11 speed model.




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    J_Westy and Sandmangts, thanks for the budget info (particularly the detailed breakdown)... I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for a vintage frame, but such a build is a long ways out for me. At the rate I'm going, my Rohloff Raleigh (considering the weight) is sort of my 'klunker' build... funds are limited for another IGH bike at this point. Keep Cruisin'! Everett37

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    2006 Marin Wolfridge

    2009 Cove G Spot

    2010 SC Chameleon

    I've got a nice 27 speed bike but don't use it much

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    Chain tension

    MHC,
    How did you manage the chaintension on your G-spot?
    Thanks,
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    2009 Surly 1x1 11th Anniversary Edition, Shimano Alfine 8-speed hub, 24"x2.5" Large Marge rims, 24"x3" Arrow Racing Wide Bite tires:

    Don’t frail and blow if you’re going to Braille and Flow.

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    Clint - magic ratio of 38/16 & change the chain to the Chameleon when it wears to the point that it touches the chainstay @ around 700 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHC
    2010 SC Chameleon
    Like this a lot. Very similar in concept and build to my chameleon




    Why have you kept the mech hanger on there though?!

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    Hey, Leopold, what kind of lights are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch2
    Hey, Leopold, what kind of lights are those?
    Home made. Brighter than necessary, just as they look in the daytime. Take a trip over to the DIY Lights forums section.
    Don’t frail and blow if you’re going to Braille and Flow.

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    ahh, I am new to the diy thing. I had a quick scan a while ago and am messing with the 3 cree from Lux-rc. I'll have a closer look....I like what you've done there.

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    Internal Hub MTBs, post yours here!-igh-3-speed-768-x-1024-.jpg
    Scott Sportster Customized
    3-Speed Nexus Disc Hub
    Nexus Gripshift
    Shimano Hydro Disc brakes
    Suntour NRX air fork with lockout.
    Suspension Seatpost.
    Scwalbe Land Cruiser tyres
    WTB 700c rims
    Truvativ Crank
    Truvativ Handlebars.
    Rides great offroad and onroad.
    Reasonably light.
    3 speed enough gear range for my riding.
    Better than singlespeed for me.

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    My new bike - 50th birthday present

    Here's my new bike:





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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    I think my bike is the oldest with an internal hub. 1936 Ohio built Mercury with a Nexus 8/rollerbrake rear and a Sturmey drum up front.

    Looks good!

    We are close (age-wise)...Pre-war LaSalle-badged Schwinn with a 7-speed Nexus hub, coaster-brake style.

    Ignorance is bliss until they take your bliss away...

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    ramaloji chain tensioner

    my proyect chain tensioner




    my last soluiton




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    Kona Explosif/Rohloff

    I just built up my new Kona Explosif frame last night. Pretty happy with it! I was told that all 2011 frames would be metallic blue (not very excited about that), but they shipped the wrong frame to the store, and I insisted that they not send it back. I guess it is a team color or some kind of one-off.

    BTW, anybody know where to get Rohloff-specific sliding dropouts? I had to modify the Speedbone and remove the tug-bolts to make it work. Also could do a Monkey Bone adapter, but it looks like everybody is sold out.

    And while we are at it, any recommended pannier racks out there you guys like? I'm worried about heel-strike with the short chain stays.






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    Nice bike

    Try Carver Bikes for sliding dropout - cant see them on the site at mo but he definately does them - mine were ti but think he does steel too http://www.carverbikes.com/Pricing/

    Just email him
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