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    Need Help from Medium Spider Owners

    I would appreciate it if you guys could measure the effective top tube length of your Medium Spiders. It's hard to get the measurement exact, so the more the merrier, that way I'll get sort of an average measurement.

    I'm asking, because there is a discrepancy in the Intense specs. For all sizes except the Medium, the wheelbase changes by the exact amount that the effective top tube length changes. However, for the Medium, the top tube changes by 1", and the wheelbase changes by 1.25". I think one of those dimensions is incorrect. I'm probably wishfull thinking here, but I'm hoping the effective top tube is actually a bit longer than 23". 23" is a tad too short for me (at least, I would go with the 23.3" top tube of the Blur instead). However, 23.25" is tolerable. Still a bit shorter than I would prefer, but no worse than the Blur. If the sizing is the same, I think I would prefer the Spider to the Blur.

    Thanks for the help.

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    Last edited by Backmarker; 03-10-2005 at 08:59 AM.

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    Don't have my M spider with me but I absolutely know that the top tube on a Spider is almost as long as the top tube on a L Blur and is about an inch longer than a M Blur. I lined my bike up against a L Blur to prove this. Intense geometry is stretched out more than SC for the same frame size (S, M or L).

    Since you're wavering between the two bikes here's my 2 cents on the difference. Blur has a little more travel and rides a tad plusher. Spider accelerates and corners better. Some of the cornering difference is the lower BB on the Spider. The suspension is so good that you can take on lips and drops but the BB is too low to really freeride it. BTW Blurs have pretty low BBs too, just not as low.

    I really like my Spider.

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    I am disappointed with the rest of you guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baconman
    Don't have my M spider with me but I absolutely know that the top tube on a Spider is almost as long as the top tube on a L Blur and is about an inch longer than a M Blur. I lined my bike up against a L Blur to prove this. Intense geometry is stretched out more than SC for the same frame size (S, M or L).

    Since you're wavering between the two bikes here's my 2 cents on the difference. Blur has a little more travel and rides a tad plusher. Spider accelerates and corners better. Some of the cornering difference is the lower BB on the Spider. The suspension is so good that you can take on lips and drops but the BB is too low to really freeride it. BTW Blurs have pretty low BBs too, just not as low.

    I really like my Spider.
    Thanks for the info Baconman. Yeah, I don't really need the extra travel of the Blur, but a 23" top tube is simply too short for me. I have a spreadsheet that cross checks bike geometry. It's very accurate with all of the bikes I have measured. Based on the other specs given by Intense, it puts the effective top tube length of the medium Spider with a 100mm fork at 23.4" A 23.4" top tube would fit me ok. It would still be shorter than I prefer, but it would fit.

    I must say, that I am disappointed with the rest of you guys. I figured at least a couple guys would be willing to measure their top tube for me. I guess I'm spoiled by the Turner board. Information flows like a river over there. Of couse, so does the clown crap, but that's another issue...

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    Top tube = 22.5 in center to center
    Wheelbase = 42.5 in

    Bike was in a stand, unweighted, and has a Fox F100X fork. Wheelbase will shrink when weighted. Top tube was measured horizontally from top of headtube to virtual center of seatpost.

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    my small tracer has a 22" top tube. effective tt lenght is a bit longer though, more like 22.8"
    I'm pretty sure intense measures actual top tube and s.c. measures effective. my small tracer is at least as long as my medium chameleon. specs say 22" for tracer, 22.5" for chameleon.

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