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    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!

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    I am excite!

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    I'm guessing a 27.5 plus bike...

    for those who don't favor pizza cutters

    a Spider 275+ would be nice

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    Its dropped - on the intense website...

    Basicly a new spider 29C but with plus wheels.

    Wondering why you cant just put 29er wheels on it - no mention of this at all....

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    Quote Originally Posted by richt2000 View Post
    Its dropped - on the intense website...

    Basicly a new spider 29C but with plus wheels.

    Wondering why you cant just put 29er wheels on it - no mention of this at all....
    You can definitely use 29er wheels
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    Aye, you can swap in 29" wheels but is not considered a main feature of the bike.

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    I really like the new Boosted IBox version of VPP, JS did a great job on the ACV.

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    Nice modern aggressive geometry while maintaining a good seat tube angle. Great job intense.

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    Hahaha, Jeff can eat his words!

    "Please no this is Intense Cycles not p***y cycles"

    Answer from Jeff to the question if Intense will introduce a fat bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider View Post
    Hahaha, Jeff can eat his words!

    "Please no this is Intense Cycles not p***y cycles"

    Answer from Jeff to the question if Intense will introduce a fat bike.

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    Hahaha nice!

    Vernon Felton did something similar in his review of Plus bikes.

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    The bike on paper makes sense.... the review is great, but only ONE color !!!!

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    On paper the ACR XL is noticeably smaller than the XL Carbine 29. I wonder if that was the intention, or if it is still targeted towards the same size range.

    I'm 6'7" and the XL Carbine is the only bike that has ever felt right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    I hope you're all enjoying the new ACV! Here are some reviews for you all to check out....

    Let me know if you have any questions on this new beast!
    Thanks Sam!

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    Sam I would like to see some more real world pics please, any with 29er wheels please?
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    Price for frame only ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    Price for frame only ?
    MSRP in the USA is $2899 for frame/shock.
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    That's reasonable . Add a 17mm lower headset cup to raise BB a bit and ride with 2.5 minions on 35mm inner width rims and it's a killer . This or add the 150 fork to the spider. Nonetheless looks like a fun bike. Congratz Intense. Now give us the Tracer update please.

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    Sam - Maybe I missed it but will a 3" tire fit in the back? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Other. Color. Options. Please...
    That's the best color scheme on a bike iIve seen in awhile. I absolutely love it, not teal like every other new bike lately. Nicely done Intense. #Intenseforlife

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    Hi Sam,
    If this had 29er wheels it would be effectively the replacement for the Spider 29C. As this is being touted as not intentionally a 29er bike then can we assume we will see a spider coming aoon?

    Dirt Moutainbike said this is new bike 2 of 5 to be released this year?!?!?

    Ie should we consider this and swap wheels or wait a few months - any hints? Plus tyres don't work well on my wet muddy home trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmanxj View Post
    Sam - Maybe I missed it but will a 3" tire fit in the back? Thanks!
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    Late in this interview, Jeff discusses the option to fit 29" wheels and the ability to fit a 3" 27.5" wheel as well. He said that it takes the bike a little out of the sweet spot with both options though. I kinda wish I had waited on the Spider 275C. I really like the options on this thing.

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    can anyone from Intense comment on why this bike is so much shorter (reach) than the spider 275? geometry otherwise looks fairly aggressive, the reach seems out of line with the rest of the numbers and current trends.

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    The bike is fairly long with almost 1200 in Large. From a geometry chart perspective I am with you. Longer reach and some 425 CS. But I think it's worth a demo. I really like the head angle and 150 fork standard. Also read somewhere that Maxxis will release the minions as 2.8inch tires which should make a killer combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardboiled View Post
    can anyone from Intense comment on why this bike is so much shorter (reach) than the spider 275? geometry otherwise looks fairly aggressive, the reach seems out of line with the rest of the numbers and current trends.
    The reach and wheelbase is more in line with the Carbine 29c. We all know that the Carbine was born to be raced. The Spider is a bit of an anomoly with it's rather long reach and long wheelbase. The Tracer has a short reach and a shorter wheelbase yet it absolutely kills downhill chunk. I think one can get too caught up looking at numbers and spec sheets. You just had to ride the bike for it make sense.

    The ACV was designed with an eye towards more downhill action than the typical plus bike thus it shares a lot of characteristics with the Carbine.

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    Question on this bikes ride characteristics and ability to handle drops to flat. I am concerned that with the low tire pressure of the 2.8 tires you are going to smash your rims into the ground on anything bigger than 4 foot to flat. My trails have plenty of hucks to flat of which most are in the 4-8 feet range. I am intrigued to try the ACV since the trails also have insane climbs with trials like features where the bike should be great but I am worried I am loosing the ability to huck to flat. Any insights ? Plus does it take a 160 fork as well? And lastly does Intense offer a frame kit w Fork option? Thanks!

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    Went to my local Intense dealer yesterday.

    After expressing my interest in the new model, I was told the ONLY difference between the ACV and the Spider is the color of the frame. I responded by stating "I know there are differences, including changes in both frame sections." They took me over to the computer and brought both frames into view, still telling me they were the same 27.5 frame as the Spider.

    So, it looks like they want to sell their Tracers and Spiders. Guess I can't blame them. They need to move their existing stock before putting new models on the floor. I just won't do any more business with them. I do my own wrenching anyway.

    Making plans for a trip to Temecula for a test ride, then wait for the internet stores to get them in stock.

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    I want one but the color is awful.

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    I don't know man, I quite like the colour. It beats Santa Cruz's magenta, Pink, etc

    No one else has, as someone else said already, a poo and wee coloured bike, so at least it covers up your bladder/anus mistakes with its colours as well as covering your poor line choice mistakes with ita jumbo tyres...

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    No bashguard mount? That's a real bummer.

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    Will the rear triangle fit on a spider 29c?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I want one but the color is awful.
    I think you have to see it in person and imagine it on the trail. It's different for sure and I think that is why I like it so.much. So many flashy blues, pinks and greens out there right now and the usual murdered out black. This color scheme will stand out, in a good way. It looks quite good in person. Since color schemes are very subjective I don't expect everyone to agree, however.

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    130mm rear and 150mm front... what's up with that? It should have 150 mm in the rear too. I have been waiting for this bike for awhile, but will not be buying one. Ill stick to my Mutz with 150mm in the rear and just get a 27.5+ wheelset.

    I think Intense needs to make a 150mm carbon fat bike. Then all you need is a fat bike wheelset and a 27.5+ wheelset. As of right now my Mutz will have to do.

    Id like to eventually just have one bike and 3-4 wheelsets.

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    it's actually crazy how capable this new crop of 130-140 bikes are now especially with a little more fork in the front. they pedal faster and your honestly hard pressed to tell the difference going down unless it's super chunky and even then depending on the suspension and shock set up can be a toss up

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    I second that.

    OK Sam, where can we get an ACV?

    My local Intense dealer refuses to acknowledge that frame changes exist.

    Looks like about a dozen reviewers have access to them.

    When will us little guys get anything more than a tease?

    I can't find any scheduled demos.

    Is it possible to demo a large ACV Pro if I come to Temecula?

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    They have a medium ACV at Laguna Beach Cyclery (SoCal). It was a "show bike", not exactly the same spec as the production models, but you can get a feel for it.

    I'm told a prod'n Medium and a Large are due by the end of the month.

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    This thread needs more action... Any ride reports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    This thread needs more action... Any ride reports?
    I hope to have more information tomorrow after a training and maybe a ride. I have a Fire meeting at the same time so I'll do my best to liven up the thread.

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    Got a little training on the new ACV on Friday. The bike looks awesome in person. While the paint me be somewhat polarizing everyone agreed it stands out from the sea of pastels and murdered out bikes on the trail. The frame shape is gorgeous!

    They paid attention to detail in this bike. From the routing of brake/shifter cables to minimize bends to the rear lower Pivot being moved into the bottom bracket area to enable shorter chainstays the bike is clean!

    This Pro model tipped the scale at 28.04lbs. Equipped with Maxxis Irons and tubes.
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    Great! JC, where is the dealer with the ACV on display?

    Were you able to get a demo ride?

    The only dealer near me is in Newbury Park, CA and he is still claiming they are not available and they have the same frame as the Spider.

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    Such a tempting bike. The linkage design and rear triangle look very similar to the uzzi which I like. Reviews are all great but this us one I need to demo on my home trails. Previous experience w plus bikes was underwhelming but love my fat bike.

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    I wasn't wild about the color at first, but it's starting to grow on me, and it's a lot better than some of the colors that are on some of the bikes coming out. I wish companies would stop trying to do these color blends that SC started. Not that I want every one of my bikes to look the same but I really wish intense would offer every one of their bikes in "Intense Red" I really liked how the spiderC was finished and wish they followed that trend. As far as the ACV I think they have to put some real tires on it. The trek rep tried the whole "it's plus tires, you need nobby tread" when he dropped off the new fuel ex. That's total bull if it's wet your going to need real tires. 28lbs is pretty good, wonder how much the foundation weights
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    Quote Originally Posted by grizfish View Post
    Great! JC, where is the dealer with the ACV on display?

    Were you able to get a demo ride?

    The only dealer near me is in Newbury Park, CA and he is still claiming they are not available and they have the same frame as the Spider.
    We were pressed for time so I didn't get a chance to hit the trail with it yet. It is not the same frame as the Spider 275c despite what the dealer says. I'm sure there is a misunderstanding. They even look completely different let alone different geo. Take a look at the Intense website for geo specs.

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    Now look closely at the rear triangle of the 2 bikes. See the extra brace on the drive side of the ACV? The Spider doesn't have that lower brace connecting to the upper pivot point. As if that wasn't evidence enough, look at the seat tube. The ACV sports an open triangle where the Spider is a closed triangle.

    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!-acv-pro.jpgIntroducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!-spider275c-factory-red_0.jpg

    I'll see if anyone near you has one you can take a look at.
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    Thanks for the info JC. Please don't bother looking for an ACV near me. Have been thinking the drive to Temecula is not that far and I can schedule a test ride. Local shops, even if they have one on the floor, will only authorize a trip around their parking lot.

    Thanks again for your help and information. I will temper my passion with patience and do this right with a proper test ride.

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    Grizfish i can't believe that guy was telling you that. Was he saying the spider 29 and ACV were the same? That seems more likely but but still they are completely different frames. I'm sure your patience will be rewarded. It's cool to just hang out and see where all the magic happens but from what I've been hearing the bike is a blast! Think tracer with unlimited traction. Maybe the ultimate trail bike. Some meaty 3" tires and than a lighter 29er wheel set, two bikes in one. Pretty good value too compared to the competition
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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    I wasn't wild about the color at first, but it's starting to grow on me, and it's a lot better than some of the colors that are on some of the bikes coming out. I wish companies would stop trying to do these color blends that SC started. Not that I want every one of my bikes to look the same but I really wish intense would offer every one of their bikes in "Intense Red" I really liked how the spiderC was finished and wish they followed that trend. As far as the ACV I think they have to put some real tires on it. The trek rep tried the whole "it's plus tires, you need nobby tread" when he dropped off the new fuel ex. That's total bull if it's wet your going to need real tires. 28lbs is pretty good, wonder how much the foundation weights
    I have the same problem when I goo to K-Mart...... if I stay long enough I can find a Shirt I like. Just because all the other Brands have awful colors. doesn't mean I should like this one choice. Seems to Me Intense was founded with Racing/Performance in it's DNA, I'd like to see a racer boy paint on this bad boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizfish View Post
    Thanks for the info JC. Please don't bother looking for an ACV near me. Have been thinking the drive to Temecula is not that far and I can schedule a test ride. Local shops, even if they have one on the floor, will only authorize a trip around their parking lot.

    Thanks again for your help and information. I will temper my passion with patience and do this right with a proper test ride.
    Sounds like a plan my friend! They'll treat you right and your patience will be rewarded. Like vice grips said, it's a cool place to visit and will help reaffirm your solid opinion of Intense as a great company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Grizfish i can't believe that guy was telling you that. Was he saying the spider 29 and ACV were the same? That seems more likely but but still they are completely different frames. I'm sure your patience will be rewarded. It's cool to just hang out and see where all the magic happens but from what I've been hearing the bike is a blast! Think tracer with unlimited traction. Maybe the ultimate trail bike. Some meaty 3" tires and than a lighter 29er wheel set, two bikes in one. Pretty good value too compared to the competition
    Oops! I thought he was talking about the Spider 275c. You are totally correct, even the 29c is quite a bit different visually let alone spec-wise. Look at the rear triangle and head tube angle.
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    In order to switch to a 29" wheel on the ACV, I would have to swap out the fork to a 29" fork. Correct?

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    Nope a 29er wheel should fit in just fine
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    As I understand it, you can put a 27+ wheel on a 29er fork but you cant put a 29" wheel on a 27.5+" fork.
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    I'm in !!! Frame only in BLACK (not tan for god sakes !!!) & I will put 29er "larger" tires carbon wide rims, or maybe just really high profile + 275s. Just waiting on the color addition. Regardless, great job intense ! (and no butt stupid stuff like SC Hightower integrated headset...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnw/bear View Post
    As I understand it, you can put a 27+ wheel on a 29er fork but you cant put a 29" wheel on a 27.5+" fork.
    Wrong.

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    Every one that has a 27.5+ bike with 110 fork hub spacing has had 29er wheels in their bike. I belive I was told by intense that 29er wheels with work in the ACV.
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    Good to know. I'm looking to try a 29er for the first time. I would also like to try 27.5+ so I was thinking the ACV might be the bike but I mainly want to get a 29er for long distance rides with big climbs so maybe the ACV is too all mountain for what I am looking for. I am hoping to see something like the Spider 275 with 29" wheels.

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    I would seriously consider this bike, but the colors do not work for me. I hate earth tones. Will there be another option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwebtx View Post
    I would seriously consider this bike, but the colors do not work for me. I hate earth tones. Will there be another option?
    I agree 100%

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    I don't think the red and black website do the bike justice. After seeing some images of it out in the wild, I personally think the colors look more attractive sitting up against a tree or on a dirt road. What more could you ask for than a bike that looks better the more dirty it gets?



    Looks pretty sexy imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sothix View Post
    I don't think the red and black website do the bike justice. After seeing some images of it out in the wild, I personally think the colors look more attractive sitting up against a tree or on a dirt road. More so than some florescent orange or red.


    Looks pretty sexy imo.
    It doesn't seem to photograph as well as it appears in person. It definitely stands out in a sea of fluorescent colored bikes and murdered out rigs. I love the colors on these 2017 bikes. Besides, doesn't the color scheme bring back fond memories of the ice cream truck and Banana/Fudge Bomb Pops? Haha

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    @JCWAGES..... I got a chance to demo one and I notice that the clearance for the chain and the new strut on the rear triangle is very tight..... And that the demo unit had a frame protector on it to protect the frame from the chain... I also looked at a ACV that is for sale at the LBS which also had the same tight clearance and frame protector... Was there issues during testing of the ACV of the tight clearance??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrsandiego View Post
    @JCWAGES..... I got a chance to demo one and I notice that the clearance for the chain and the new strut on the rear triangle is very tight..... And that the demo unit had a frame protector on it to protect the frame from the chain... I also looked at a ACV that is for sale at the LBS which also had the same tight clearance and frame protector... Was there issues during testing of the ACV of the tight clearance??
    I'd also like to know

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    I ordered one last month, it arrived today, I rode it this evening, it's....the best? I've been demoing bikes all year, ibis mojo 3, hd3, giant trance, reign, yeti, rocky mountain, pivot switchblade....etc. After 5 minutes on the trail with the ACV I kept thinking to myself, "hell yes".

    Pedaled unbelievably, descended like a boss.

    To address the tight fit on the chain with the frame, yes it is tight, I didn't get any rub though and I did keep checking.

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    Congrats! That is quite a list of demoed bikes! Good to hear that the ACV is at the top of your list. I'm curious how it climbs. I know the traction is good but what about the long haul? Does the bigger tire wear on you after 3000+K of climbing?

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    Ya. Good question. I personally would consider a 3000+ climb sort of an epic ride. I have not done that on the acv yet. Todays ride was about 1000 with lots of up and downs. Very fun. When i get to the epic ride i will report back.

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    Sothix....Congrats... is that a pro build??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnw/bear View Post
    Congrats! That is quite a list of demoed bikes! Good to hear that the ACV is at the top of your list. I'm curious how it climbs. I know the traction is good but what about the long haul? Does the bigger tire wear on you after 3000+K of climbing?
    The bike is fairly light at 28lbs and the plus tires are forgiving so it should be fantastic for long epic rides. That is why many bikepackers are moving to plus bikes though generally a hardtail variant with a steeper HA than the ACV. The Plus tires roll very well so they are less of a drain than you would think. Some reviewers report they roll better than standard 27.5 and almost as well as a 29er or even better depending on the terrain.



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    Here are some images of how tight the clearance is between the chain and the new strut. I did take another demo ride... Heard the chain hit the chainstay but not the new strut.
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    Thanks for the input! Good video! I need to demo the ACV. I have a friend that has the 6 Fattie and his words were "sell everything, this is the only type of bike you need". I climb 2000+ feet almost every ride so I would like to know how they perform over the long haul. If not that much of a drag, then it does make sense. I climb only so that I can descend. However, The spider has made me almost enjoy the climb!

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    So, Pardon me, but your dollar bill placement has virtually no meaning without telling us which gear the chain is on. Is it on the 42 tooth sprocket? If so, how much friggin clearance do you need to feel comfortable? I say screw your comfort level. If it works, it works! Put a guard on your frame or get something else to ride.

    BTW - Do you realize why there is less clearance at that point? Do you want the added strength and rigidity provided by that part of the frame, or do you want a "warm and fuzzy" about non-existent clearance issues in granny gear?

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    42 tooth cog... The reason I point this out is that both the new Recluse and Primer do not have this drive sided strut and thus there isn't this tight tolerance... I am also assuming both the Recluse and Primer have "the added strength and rigidity".....Some folks may not have the opportunity to demo a ACV and rely on other folks here for an informed decision before a purchase...

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    I'm guessing that the added brace on the chainstay is needed due to the increased load on the rear end of the bike due to the bigger wheel and tires. I also bet that it IS stiffer than the Primer or Recluse rearends.

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    Nice stuff! How about 28 chainring is it possible?

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    Intense ACV+ Build

    Over the weekend finished building up a Intense ACV, delivered as a Foundation Build, has been mostly stripped and re-built. Just waiting for a replacement shock and tyres to arrive.
    Built up sweet, without any issues. The opening inside the head-tube (like the Primer) was excellent for routing cables and threading foam liners over cable - no cables rattles!

    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!-acv.jpg

    The ACV will have both 27.5+ and 29ER Wheel-sets run in it.


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    I haven't had any issues with chain touching the drive-side brace, even when in 46t sprocket and the chain-ring is an Absolute Black 32t Oval.

    Specs as follows:-

    Fork:- Rockshox Pike 29/27.5+
    Shock:- Rockshox Monarch R (waiting for Monarch RT3 when available - cannot fit a Monarch Plus in with bidon)
    Handlebars/Stem:- Thomson Trail/Thomson X4
    Brakes:- Shimano XT M8000 with 203/180mm Ice-Tech Rotors
    Shifter/Derailleur:- Shimano XTR M9000
    Cassette:- Shimano XT M9000 11-46t
    Crankset:- Raceface Aeffect Cinch with Absolute Black 32t
    Seatpost:- Thomson Covert 150mm Dropper with Specialized SRL Lever.
    Wheel-set:- Roval Traverse SL 38 650B (Carbon) Boost
    Tyres:- Maxxis Ikon 2.8Ē (waiting for Maxxis Minion DHF/DHR 2.8Ē)


    I've only had a couple of rides, but loving it! There is plenty of grip (more once Minions are fitted), the slacker 66.25 head angle is very stable. Looking forward to throwing on a 29ER wheel-set next weekend.
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    JC, this was a great video to watch, but we have to remember one thing: If this is true, why aren't the pros running plus bikes in world cup DH and Enduro races? When there's money - and world titles - on the line, they are going to run what's fastest. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    The bike is fairly light at 28lbs and the plus tires are forgiving so it should be fantastic for long epic rides. That is why many bikepackers are moving to plus bikes though generally a hardtail variant with a steeper HA than the ACV. The Plus tires roll very well so they are less of a drain than you would think. Some reviewers report they roll better than standard 27.5 and almost as well as a 29er or even better depending on the terrain.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erhoops View Post
    Over the weekend finished building up a Intense ACV, delivered as a Foundation Build, has been mostly stripped and re-built. Just waiting for a replacement shock and tyres to arrive.
    Built up sweet, without any issues. The opening inside the head-tube (like the Primer) was excellent for routing cables and threading foam liners over cable - no cables rattles!

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    I haven't had any issues with chain touching the drive-side brace, even when in 46t sprocket and the chain-ring is an Absolute Black 32t Oval.

    Specs as follows:-

    Fork:- Rockshox Pike 29/27.5+
    Shock:- Rockshox Monarch R (waiting for Monarch RT3 when available - cannot fit a Monarch Plus in with bidon)
    Handlebars/Stem:- Thomson Trail/Thomson X4
    Brakes:- Shimano XT M8000 with 203/180mm Ice-Tech Rotors
    Shifter/Derailleur:- Shimano XTR M9000
    Cassette:- Shimano XT M9000 11-46t
    Crankset:- Raceface Aeffect Cinch with Absolute Black 32t
    Seatpost:- Thomson Covert 150mm Dropper with Specialized SRL Lever.
    Wheel-set:- Roval Traverse SL 38 650B (Carbon) Boost
    Tyres:- Maxxis Ikon 2.8Ē (waiting for Maxxis Minion DHF/DHR 2.8Ē)


    I've only had a couple of rides, but loving it! There is plenty of grip (more once Minions are fitted), the slacker 66.25 head angle is very stable. Looking forward to throwing on a 29ER wheel-set next weekend.
    I am drooling over the idea of 2.8 Minions...

    I'd like to hear how it performs as a 29er.

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    please keep us informed, In very interested in the acv with 29er setup, Im in the process of finding out what fits and works well. I liked how the ikon tires are and it was fun to ride but ultimately wasn't for me I miss the over all diameter and speed of the 29er

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    Tried several 29x2.25 tires possibly some 2.3 will fit. Ran into a couple 2.3 tires that didnt fit due to the diameter (both WTB). Now, this is my opinion I think the plus size tires worked better than the 29er . It was fun experimenting with it.

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    Intense ACV with 29" 'Wagon Wheels'

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    please keep us informed, In very interested in the acv with 29er setup, Im in the process of finding out what fits and works well. I liked how the ikon tires are and it was fun to ride but ultimately wasn't for me I miss the over all diameter and speed of the 29er
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    I had a blast in the forest this afternoon with the Intense ACV rolling the 'Wagon Wheels'.
    The focus of the ACV is clearly 27.5+, but it does run 29″ Boost wheels well too!

    Wheel Spec:- Roval Traverse Fattie 29 Alloy Boost (29mm Internal Width)
    Front Tyre:- Specialized Butcher Control 29x2.3"
    Rear Tyre:- Specialized Purgatory Grid 29x2.3"

    The clearance on the fork is a non-issue with most 29" tyres.
    There is plenty of clearance in the rear with the wheel/tyre combination used, as above.
    Also fitted Enve M70 HV rear wheel off my Stumpjumper FSR 29er, with Specialized Purgatory Grid - clearance was still good (30mm Internal Width).
    There maybe problems with narrower internal widths causing the tyre sit taller.
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    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!-image.jpg

    This just arrived👍🏻
    I'm 5'11" and went with a large. Riding it around the parking lot the size seems perfect.

    The quality looks amazing. One thing that is kinda annoying is that you cannot run the Next SL cranks with the boots as the cranks ends will rub the chainstays. Will have to bust out the Mastic tape for a little protection. Or maybe a crank with a wider Q factor will be needed.

    I also put a monster looking Surly Dirt Wizard 3.0 upfront so I can get rowdy on the DH✊🏻

    Can't wait to get this thing on the dirt!

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    Grats dude! That dirt wizard looks totally badass.

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    Anyone know the weight of the Foundation vs the Pro?

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    Has anyone riddend the AvC with 29 hoops back to back with the new primer?
    Any observatioms?

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    Anyone try or thinking about 2.5 w/t on this?

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    I had a blast in the forest this afternoon with the Intense ACV rolling the 'Wagon Wheels'.
    The focus of the ACV is clearly 27.5+, but it does run 29″ Boost wheels well too!

    Wheel Spec:- Roval Traverse Fattie 29 Alloy Boost (29mm Internal Width)
    Front Tyre:- Specialized Butcher Control 29x2.3"
    Rear Tyre:- Specialized Purgatory Grid 29x2.3"

    The clearance on the fork is a non-issue with most 29" tyres.
    There is plenty of clearance in the rear with the wheel/tyre combination used, as above.
    Also fitted Enve M70 HV rear wheel off my Stumpjumper FSR 29er, with Specialized Purgatory Grid - clearance was still good (30mm Internal Width).
    There maybe problems with narrower internal widths causing the tyre sit taller.
    How have you got on with the AVC with 29er hoops? Do you find the bottom bracket high? Overlaying AVC and primer on photoshop they look almost identical, with the primer sitting just slightly higher due to the wheel size... If a 2.3 on a 30mm internal hoop works just fine on the avc I can't see the point in getting a primer since I would prefer 66.25 head angle over 67.5...

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    That's intriguing. Especially with the bigger fork up front. Foto would be great of the 29er setup

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    any recent reviews to share? JCW - do you have a longer term update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    any recent reviews to share? JCW - do you have a longer term update?
    I was absolutely loving the ride until I make a bad choice during an attempted drop and fractured a rib. Then I got the flu so missed a ride yesterday too. Ugg

    I let my buddy Brian take my bike up to Downieville for a bit of fun and this is what he thought about it. Honest reviews are great. While in the end he prefers non-plus tires which provide better trail feel, he had a blast on the ACV and how fast you can ride it. Despite the XC-oriented tires and the wet brakes howling. LOL


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    Maxxis DHF 2.5WT & DHR II 2.4WT

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    Anyone try or thinking about 2.5 w/t on this?
    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!-dhf28dhf25.jpg

    What the hell, I'll give this combo a go on the ACV (going use on a Recluse as well), it has dropped BB height by 6mm to 328mm. I haven't had any issues with pedal strike running the 2.8 tyres - 334mm BB Height.

    Give me a week or so.
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    This bike is amazingly fun

    Test rode the ACV this week. I am going to pull the trigger. Can anyone weigh in on the bike's leverage ratio - in particular how it might handle a coil damper. I am assuming it is similar to the Recluse curve.

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    Has anyone tried 27.5 x 3.5+ tires? I'm thinking about getting some 3.5 or 3.8 27.5 tires for the winter. Or....maybe I'll just buy a fat bike.

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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble 27.5 x 3.5"

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    Has anyone tried 27.5 x 3.5+ tires? I'm thinking about getting some 3.5 or 3.8 27.5 tires for the winter. Or....maybe I'll just buy a fat bike.
    WideOpen, New Zealand distributor for Intense, Enve and Panaracer-built an Intense ACV with Enve M60 Plus rims with Panaracer Fat B Nimble 27.5 x 3.5" tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erhoops View Post
    WideOpen, New Zealand distributor for Intense, Enve and Panaracer-built an Intense ACV with Enve M60 Plus rims with Panaracer Fat B Nimble 27.5 x 3.5" tyres.

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    How is the clearance on the 36 with the 3.5s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erhoops View Post
    WideOpen, New Zealand distributor for Intense, Enve and Panaracer-built an Intense ACV with Enve M60 Plus rims with Panaracer Fat B Nimble 27.5 x 3.5" tyres.

    https://www.instagram.com/wideopennz/
    Being new to this wider tire and wheel configuration, I went to the Enve website.
    They don't seem to recommend a tire of that width. Can someone explain this?

    M Series 60 Forty Plus - ENVE Composites

    "Recommended Tire Size:2.8 in - 3.0 in"

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    Fat b nimbles 3.5 are at best 3.0. One of the worst tires out


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    Quote Originally Posted by JillRide45 View Post
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    I would tend to agree with the 2nd part of that quote. The tire is so paper thin it would seem the sidewalls would tear if you hit a toothpick.
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    I started building my new ACV today, I'm doing something a bit unorthodox with it. I'll post pics when she's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocking_Crail View Post
    I started building my new ACV today, I'm doing something a bit unorthodox with it. I'll post pics when she's done.
    Curiosity struck.

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    I have made a couple updates to the ACV

    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!-img_6923.jpg

    First I switched out the stock shock as it could just not keep up with the bike on long, steep and technical decents. I decided to go with the new Cane Creek DB coil inline and bump up the rear travel. I went from the stock 200x51 to 200x57 which gives the bike approx 140mm travel instead of the stock 130mm. What a difference this shock makes!!!! The coil is so supple and just brings this bike alive on the descents. I switched out the tires to a 2.8 Minion DHF 60tpi dual compound rear and a Surly dirt Wizard 3.0 up front. At 1350g it's not a light tire but the grip and confidance this tire gives is next level. With these changes the bike is like a freight train on the DH. With this in mind I bumped the rotors to 200 front and 180 rear to help stop this beast

    I'm considering increasing the front travel to 160mm to really open up the DH performance.

    I am so psyched on this bike it leaves me grinning from ear to ear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikers Only View Post

    First I switched out the stock shock as it could just not keep up with the bike on long, steep and technical decents. I decided to go with the new Cane Creek DB coil inline and bump up the rear travel. I went from the stock 200x51 to 200x57 which gives the bike approx 140mm travel instead of the stock 130mm. What a difference this shock makes!!!! The coil is so supple and just brings this bike alive on the descents. I switched out the tires to a 2.8 Minion DHF 60tpi dual compound rear and a Surly dirt Wizard 3.0 up front. At 1350g it's not a light tire but the grip and confidance this tire gives is next level. With these changes the bike is like a freight train on the DH. With this in mind I bumped the rotors to 200 front and 180 rear to help stop this beast

    I'm considering increasing the front travel to 160mm to really open up the DH performance.

    I am so psyched on this bike it leaves me grinning from ear to ear!
    Why couldn't the Fox keep up with long descents?

    I'm surprised the longer shock fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikers Only View Post
    I have made a couple updates to the ACV

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    First I switched out the stock shock as it could just not keep up with the bike on long, steep and technical decents. I decided to go with the new Cane Creek DB coil inline and bump up the rear travel. I went from the stock 200x51 to 200x57 which gives the bike approx 140mm travel instead of the stock 130mm. What a difference this shock makes!!!! The coil is so supple and just brings this bike alive on the descents. I switched out the tires to a 2.8 Minion DHF 60tpi dual compound rear and a Surly dirt Wizard 3.0 up front. At 1350g it's not a light tire but the grip and confidance this tire gives is next level. With these changes the bike is like a freight train on the DH. With this in mind I bumped the rotors to 200 front and 180 rear to help stop this beast

    I'm considering increasing the front travel to 160mm to really open up the DH performance.

    I am so psyched on this bike it leaves me grinning from ear to ear!
    I'm also considering the ACV and the first thing I'd do is change the rear shock for the DB CoilIL like you did. Why did you take a longer shock though, were you bottoming the 130mm too often or was it unavailable in the stock length at CaneCreek?

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    It comes with a Rockshox Monarch RC3 shock. I found that the shock would heat up and pack up when things got rowdy on longer decent, and did not have the plushness that I wanted. Plus I wanted more tuneability.

    I did not change the eye to eye of the shock just the stroke length.

    Yes I would bottom out the shock on a consistent basis on the trails I ride. Also with a 150mm front the back felt a little under gunned for my local trails. I highly recommend getting the CC DB inline coil if your riding consist of lots of high speed rough trails. The shock really brings the bike alive on this type of trail. With the settings I have settled on the shock feels like melted butter at the beginning of the stoke and never packs up.

    The bike Is like a freight train when it's gets up to speed which is mind blowingly fast when the grade gets steep. Once I got the coil settings dialed in the bike is fricken amazing on fast and tech DH. In my current set up though it is not an every day driver. It can be cumbersome in slower tight undulating terrain. But once it points DH I have the biggest damn smile on my face😊 Even thought it is not at home on slower tighter terrain the bike can still climb like a mountain goat!

    The ACV is a very versatile bike which can be set up many different ways depending on how and where you ride. I decided to go to the more aggressive DH mode as I have a different rig for lighter duty days👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikers Only View Post
    It comes with a Rockshox Monarch RC3 shock. I found that the shock would heat up and pack up when things got rowdy on longer decent, and did not have the plushness that I wanted. Plus I wanted more tuneability.

    I did not change the eye to eye of the shock just the stroke length.

    Yes I would bottom out the shock on a consistent basis on the trails I ride. Also with a 150mm front the back felt a little under gunned for my local trails. I highly recommend getting the CC DB inline coil if your riding consist of lots of high speed rough trails. The shock really brings the bike alive on this type of trail. With the settings I have settled on the shock feels like melted butter at the beginning of the stoke and never packs up.

    The bike Is like a freight train when it's gets up to speed which is mind blowingly fast when the grade gets steep. Once I got the coil settings dialed in the bike is fricken amazing on fast and tech DH. In my current set up though it is not an every day driver. It can be cumbersome in slower tight undulating terrain. But once it points DH I have the biggest damn smile on my face Even thought it is not at home on slower tighter terrain the bike can still climb like a mountain goat!

    The ACV is a very versatile bike which can be set up many different ways depending on how and where you ride. I decided to go to the more aggressive DH mode as I have a different rig for lighter duty days
    Have you noticed any problems with the tire hitting the seat tube at full compression, or is there ample room to deal with the longer stroke? I'm very interested in this option as a way of pushing the ACV further towards the rowdy end of the trail bike spectrum. Thanks

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    I took the coil off and in full compression there was approx 1/2 inch of clearance between the tire (maxxis minion DHF 2.8 40mm internal rims) and seat tube👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikers Only View Post
    I took the coil off and in full compression there was approx 1/2 inch of clearance between the tire (maxxis minion DHF 2.8 40mm internal rims) and seat tube
    Good to hear. Thanks.


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    Also you need to check to make sure the shock you used does not hit the underside of the top tube under compression. It is my understanding not all will fit! I think the CC DB will not fit not 100% sure what else!

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    Pull the X2 on the list of shocks that make contact to the underside of the top tube, it will work but you need to do some offset bushing to make work
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    Hey lucky few that have an ACV, how is the bottom bracket height for you? I think it is one of the lowest in the + bikes I looked at so I'm a bit afraid of this aspect. Are the crank arms 170 or 175mm?

    And to the extremely lucky guy who has the ACV with CC DBcoilIL, any new feed-back on the shocks performance? You should send a picture of it to Intense, I wish companies would start specing this shock on certain bikes.

    Thanks much.

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    I measured my BB height at 13.1 inches, I'm running 170mm cranks. No problems with pedal strikes at 30% sag and I'm running the shock open 100% of the time. She pedals well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocking_Crail View Post
    I measured my BB height at 13.1 inches, I'm running 170mm cranks. No problems with pedal strikes at 30% sag and I'm running the shock open 100% of the time. She pedals well.
    Thanks for the reply. It's strange that a lot of reviews talk about pedal strikes on bikes that are very low like the ACV but it doesn't seem to be the case on this one. Maybe the mid travel is relatively firm so it's doesn't go down too much when pedalling through rock gardens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanzaiRider View Post
    Hey lucky few that have an ACV, how is the bottom bracket height for you? I think it is one of the lowest in the + bikes I looked at so I'm a bit afraid of this aspect. Are the crank arms 170 or 175mm?

    And to the extremely lucky guy who has the ACV with CC DBcoilIL, any new feed-back on the shocks performance? You should send a picture of it to Intense, I wish companies would start specing this shock on certain bikes.

    Thanks much.
    My pre-production bike has 175mm crank arms and the bottom bracket is very low at around 12.8". I had some serious issues with pedal strikes until I realized I had the shock set up too soft and I was blowing through travel when I shouldn't be. I set my sag at approx. 25% and the bike feels great now. I have not had anymore pedal strikes and the bike is solid. With the post-production bikes with the shorter cranks and higher BB height I think you'll be fine assuming you watch your pedal placement like you would do on most modern bikes.

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    I'm gonna be totally honest and admit when I first got the bike I noticed I was pedal striking A LOT more than normal. The low bottom bracket coupled with "longish" cranks naturally would produce this. I kind of felt it was less about the bike and more that I needed to get better at riding. I am more conscious of it now and definitely position my feet a lot better in rocky sections, it is totally avoidable with better riding imo.

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    When running the longer stroke rear shock, make sure the upper link does not hit top tube on full compression. I have a 200 x 51mm on my spider and then tried to put a 200 x 57mm rear shock on. This does not work as the upper link hits the top tube at full compression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sothix View Post
    I'm gonna be totally honest and admit when I first got the bike I noticed I was pedal striking A LOT more than normal. The low bottom bracket coupled with "longish" cranks naturally would produce this. I kind of felt it was less about the bike and more that I needed to get better at riding. I am more conscious of it now and definitely position my feet a lot better in rocky sections, it is totally avoidable with better riding imo.
    Your last sentence says it all. I rode a Bronson demo last week and had pedal strikes in the parking lot. I ride very conservatively because my old bones don't heal well. Severed ACLs take forever to heal. Ask me how I know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    My pre-production bike has 175mm crank arms and the bottom bracket is very low at around 12.8". I had some serious issues with pedal strikes until I realized I had the shock set up too soft and I was blowing through travel when I shouldn't be. I set my sag at approx. 25% and the bike feels great now. I have not had anymore pedal strikes and the bike is solid. With the post-production bikes with the shorter cranks and higher BB height I think you'll be fine assuming you watch your pedal placement like you would do on most modern bikes.
    Thanks, my first gen Nomad is almost an inch higher than the ACV and I ride a lot of rock gardens so this will certainly be an adaptation then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnw/bear View Post
    When running the longer stroke rear shock, make sure the upper link does not hit top tube on full compression. I have a 200 x 51mm on my spider and then tried to put a 200 x 57mm rear shock on. This does not work as the upper link hits the top tube at full compression.
    "Hikers Only" seems to have done his validation quite well and it seems to fit fine, the 57mm stroke is a very interesting option to increase the rear travel a bit. I wonder why Intense hasn't selected that length instead of the 51mm!

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    I sold the Tracer today to buy a 27.5+ bike. Does anyone know if Intense plans to change the color of the ACV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I sold the Tracer today to buy a 27.5+ bike. Does anyone know if Intense plans to change the color of the ACV?
    Hope so!

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    Pictures do not do the color of the ACV justice! I've never had so many complements on the color of a bike before. It's so different than anything else out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikers Only View Post
    Pictures do not do the color of the ACV justice! I've never had so many complements on the color of a bike before. It's so different than anything else out there.
    I would say the same thing. When I first saw the pics, in 99% of them I thought "what the h*ll was Intense thinking?".

    But when I saw one in person, I was really shocked at how cool the color was. I would say don't make up your mind about the color until you've seen it firsthand.
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    Nobody ever opted not to buy an Intense because it was RED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSchwagman View Post
    Nobody ever opted not to buy an Intense because it was RED.
    As the owner of a red Tracer 275C, I cannot argue with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSchwagman View Post
    Hope so!
    Hope not.

    Maybe they could bring two color choices like on the Recluse but I sure hope they don't change this one before I buy one! This color should become an icon for the ACV just like the turquoise Yeti...

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    Has anyone run 29" wheels on this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
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    Good question, I read someone did with 29x2.3 on the Yeti Sb5+ Which is also a dedicated 27.5+ like the ACV...

    Great review on pinkbike by the way, makes me want an ACV!

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    So this bike can be run as a 160/140 plus bike w 2.8 minions on 40mm rims? That sounds interesting. Are frames only available here?

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    Intense ACV with Enve M70 29er wheelset fitted wrapped in Maxxis DHF 2.5" and DHR 2.3" rubber. The DHR sits a little taller than a Specialized Purgatory 2.3" previously used (see previous posts - Page 2), it's okay for summer use, but wouldn't be suitable in wet muddy conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erhoops View Post
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    Intense ACV with Enve M70 29er wheelset fitted wrapped in Maxxis DHF 2.5" and DHR 2.3" rubber. The DHR sits a little taller than a Specialized Purgatory 2.3" previously used (see previous posts - Page 2), it's okay for summer use, but wouldn't be suitable in wet muddy conditions.
    Wow thanks for the pic, cool to know it can take a 2.3 in the rear. Any close up on the tire linkage area? ;-). How does if feel with the bottom bracket higher?

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    Any issues with the absence of a bash guard?

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    I'm finally getting around to posting a pic of my ACV build.
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    I'm finally getting around to posting a pic of my ACV build.
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    Hikers only: did the change in rear shock steepen your angles noticeably? i'm planning on making this change, along with going from a fox 150 fork to an undetermined 160 fork. This bike is great in so many ways, but I'm coming off an Enduro 27.5 and am missing the slacker head angle and more travel. The acv is better in most ways, except the fact that I do not feel as confident facing those "should I attempt this" downhill moves/sections, as I did on the enduro. thx for the info on the cane creek shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    So this bike can be run as a 160/140 plus bike w 2.8 minions on 40mm rims? That sounds interesting. Are frames only available here?
    What size frame are you looking for? Might have a line on one. PM me

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Pull the X2 on the list of shocks that make contact to the underside of the top tube, it will work but you need to do some offset bushing to make work
    Has anyone else tried the X2 on an ACV? I was looking into getting one in 57x200 but don't want to hit the top tube

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    I got a few rides on my new to me ACV pro and so far it's been awesome.
    I added some boots to the Next cranks and a 28t up front and a TRSr 9-46 cassette. The bike came with an Fox Factory float X 200x57 that fits well and rides great. I'm looking forward to riding the classics like Moab and Crested butte this year!

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    did the length of that shock stroke give you any more measurable rear travel?

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    148mm on paper, have not measured actual wheel travel

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    anyone dealt w/ cable noise w/ this frame?

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    anyone dealt w/ cable noise w/ this frame?
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    ACV @ 115mm vs Devinci Marshall carbon - who's ridden both? Looking to replace my Phantom with something I can fit a 3" tire on. Would be ridden primarily on tighter midwest trails.

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    If this bike came in a different color and with eagle, Id have one. Looks like a yeti SB5+ is in my future.

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    Pulled the trigger, and have an ACV frame on the way. I plan to experiment with building the equivalent of Primer+, which would be better suited to my local trails. Stay tuned...


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    I thought the frames are the same? ACV a foundation primer frame with the aluminum linkage and an extra coat of paint?

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    Both the front triangle and the swingarms are definitely different.
    ACV front triangle doesn't have a derailleur mount, while the Primer does.
    ACV swingarm fits a 3" tire, and has an drive side upright connecting the seat and chain stays.
    The geometry might be very similar when running identical forks, but they are not the same frame. Highly unlikely they are from the same mold.

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    You are right. Why did I think that? Thanks for clearing this up

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    In your defense, they did launch at the same time. Like I said, the geometry appears to get within a few mm, and about 0.25 degrees or so when running the same fork. Combine that with a leverage ratio curve that's very similar, and you effectively have the same frame.

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    Need to try what I can fit into the primer rear. I have a set of plus wheels and 2.8 tires flying around. Should definitely be possible to run 29er wheels nicely on the ACV. I think I though they the same frame because both have no bash guard mounts...

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    Wait a few days

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    If this bike came in a different color and with eagle, Id have one. Looks like a yeti SB5+ is in my future.
    Wait a few more days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Wait a few days
    We'll, this explains the killer price I got on my ACV frame...

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    New build kits and pictures on website.
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    Colors are way better. Dang, I wish they came with Fox suspension though. I don't get it. It has a Fox seat post. Why not stick with Fox throughout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    Colors are way better. Dang, I wish they came with Fox suspension though. I don't get it. It has a Fox seat post. Why not stick with Fox throughout?
    While I really like the gray/silver/orange colorway in the picture I posted, I'm not going to complain about the price I paid for my frame, which allows me to build it up any way I want to.

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    I have a new large 2017 ACV frame with a Fox Factory shock I would like to move to a new owner. PM me with any questions..............

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    I've narrowed it down between the Yeti SB5+ and the ACV.

    The build on the Yeti is a lot better. The ACV has a lot of GX parts while the Yeti has XO1. The rims on the Yeti are wider. I like Fox suspension, which the Yeti has. hmmm.

    Has anyone ridden both? Opinions?

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    I just ordered a Medium ACV frame set. I am going to run both tire sizes on it ( 27.5+and 29er ). I notice Intence specs it with 170mm cranks. WHY? Should I get 175 or 170 crank arms? All my other bikes had 175 even my Ibos mojo 3. I am 185lbs and between5'9" and 5' 10". Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ski1970 View Post
    I just ordered a Medium ACV frame set. I am going to run both tire sizes on it ( 27.5+and 29er ). I notice Intence specs it with 270mm cranks. WHY? Should I get 175 or 170 crank arms? All my other bikes had 175 even my Ibos mojo 3. I am 185lbs and between5'9" and 5' 10". Thanks for the info.
    170 not 270

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    I've added a DVO Diamond boost fork @150mm to my ACV (replaced Fox 34 @140mm), and will be riding for the first time this weekend. Should be a good match for the Cane Creek [IL] shock.

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    Anyone put the recluse link on the ACV like we do on the primer?

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    My New ACV

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    So I finally got the ACV set up. I bought just the frame hence the Fox evol shock. Every thing else I took from my Fuse PRO or bought new (rock shox Pike RC3T). The bike is heavier than I thought it would be (especially the front) I rode it yesterday for the first time with 27.5+ 3.0 Maxxis chronicals and specialized rims that are off the Fuse Pro. It rode very well. Today I tossed on my Stand Flows with I9 hubs and Maxxis 2.4 ardent front and rear. Still seems heavy to me. I used to have a Carbine 29 and if I remember it was lighter. Any thoughts on what will make it lighter. The bars are Renthal carbon and a Apex stem, Avid Guide RS brakes.

    Yet to be purchased once funds build up again are Race Face Next SL cranks and some other 27.5 wheels maybe carbon or I9 wheels.

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    So I finally got the ACV set up. I bought just the frame hence the Fox evol shock. Every thing else I took from my Fuse PRO or bought new (rock shox Pike RC3T). The bike is heavier than I thought it would be (especially the front) I rode it yesterday for the first time with 27.5+ 3.0 Maxxis chronicals and specialized rims that are off the Fuse Pro. It rode very well. Today I tossed on my Stand Flows with I9 hubs and Maxxis 2.4 ardent front and rear. Still seems heavy to me. I used to have a Carbine 29 and if I remember it was lighter. Any thoughts on what will make it lighter. The bars are Renthal carbon and a Apex stem, Avid Guide RS brakes.

    Yet to be purchased once funds build up again are Race Face Next SL cranks and some other 27.5 wheels maybe carbon or I9 wheels.
    I think you are on the right track. Cranks and wheels will make a big difference. What drivetrain is on there? Have you weighed it on a scale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sothix View Post
    I think you are on the right track. Cranks and wheels will make a big difference. What drivetrain is on there? Have you weighed it on a scale?
    It is XO1 drivetrain and no I have not weighed it on a scale. I did find out that the ACV does not have the SL carbon lay up at all. It is the regular one if that matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by ski1970 View Post
    It is XO1 drivetrain and no I have not weighed it on a scale. I did find out that the ACV does not have the SL carbon lay up at all. It is the regular one if that matters
    Oh interesting, my LBS told me last year that it was the SL carbon.

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    I called intense and spoke with Andrew today and he told me no they are the regular carbon only. Maybe that's why it is heavy. I had a mojo 3 and it seemed lighter for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ski1970 View Post
    I called intense and spoke with Andrew today and he told me no they are the regular carbon only. Maybe that's why it is heavy. I had a mojo 3 and it seemed lighter for some reason.
    Ok cool, good to know. I've got an ACV pro build that comes in at about 28.5lbs. Dunno if that helps.

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    U got a pic of it?

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    I'm looking at picking up a bike int he very near future, mid travel 27.5+. Those with an ACV, what other bikes did you demo, and why did you pick the ACV? I don't have the benefit of demoing a bunch of bikes before buying, so I have to go on the opinions and reviews of others. I am able to demo a Trek Fuel EX 27.5+and Pivot Mach 429 Trail tomorrow, and hopefully a Mach 5.5, so we'll see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by askibum02 View Post
    I'm looking at picking up a bike int he very near future, mid travel 27.5+. Those with an ACV, what other bikes did you demo, and why did you pick the ACV? I don't have the benefit of demoing a bunch of bikes before buying, so I have to go on the opinions and reviews of others. I am able to demo a Trek Fuel EX 27.5+and Pivot Mach 429 Trail tomorrow, and hopefully a Mach 5.5, so we'll see how that goes.
    having owned a 429 trail and ACV, I'd say the ACV is very versatile. You can make it behave like a Primer 130/115, a 27+ 150/130, bike a trail 29er with a 140/140 setup. In doing this you don't radically change the bike to the point its out of its comfort zone. I felt the 429 did not descend nearly as well fyi. That's my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by askibum02 View Post
    I'm looking at picking up a bike int he very near future, mid travel 27.5+. Those with an ACV, what other bikes did you demo, and why did you pick the ACV? I don't have the benefit of demoing a bunch of bikes before buying, so I have to go on the opinions and reviews of others. I am able to demo a Trek Fuel EX 27.5+and Pivot Mach 429 Trail tomorrow, and hopefully a Mach 5.5, so we'll see how that goes.
    Iíll be looking forward to your comments, specially the Pivot 5.5. Iím leaning towards an Evil Calling right now but I would have a better deal on an ACV which is also on my short list! Coming from an old Nomad Iím a bit afraid about going down in rear travel so I think the ACV with 2.8 tires tires would be more plush than a regular 130mm 27.5 with 2.4-2.5 tires...

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    I demoed the Fuel EX and the Mach 5.5 yesterday, I skipped the Mach 429 Trail, I didn't have the legs for a third lap on the trail. I didn't care for the Fuel, I had a lot pedal strike. I'm sure it could be remedied with shorter cranks, but I don't want to spend $3K on a bike, and then have to turn around and have to buy new cranks. The Mach 5.5 was like butter. The trail I was on wasn't especially difficult, it was pretty flowy with small to medium size rocks and roots, and not a terrible amount of ascending or descending. What it did have, the Pivot handled great. It climbed with out any appreciable bobbing, with the shock open, which at 245 lbs, I was very happy with. I'm not going to be able to demo much more before I buy, and the Pivot is about $800 out of my price range, so I'm back to square one. The ACV seems to be a great bike on paper, but I'm also considering the Hightower 27.5+ and also the Remedy, which reportedly can run up to a 2.8. The Remedy I'm going to take for a spin next weekend.
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    You did not miss out by not riding the 429T. Owned it and so happy I sold it. I am considering an ACV for the missus as personally I don't like 2.8 tires. Even though I like 2.6.....on my recluse as a front tire. Figure that. The recluse link should also fit on the ACV to bump up rear travel to 140 and you can run 29er wheels too. Geometry and fit for the primer, acv, spider generation are just so dialed and spot on for trail riding. Great slate of bikes.

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    You can run a 2.6 tire on the ACV as inner rim width is 35mm.

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    Can I ask about the sizing of this bike, Iíve read that the reach is very short compared to most bikes and was wondering for some real feedback. Will the large fit a 6ft rider ok? Thanks

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    I've been looking at the ACV as an alternative to the C29. They look like they have similar numbers in terms of reach.

    So weegi, at 6' you're looking at a large for sure if you want to keep the stem short like 40mm or 50mm.

    As for weight, comparing the ACV's awesome looking swingarm, it's bigger and heftier than the rear ends on all the other trail bikes (C29, old Tracer, Recluse, Primer).

    I'd love to try one with a 29er front end with 160mm fork, 57mm shock and 27.5+ rear wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weegi View Post
    Can I ask about the sizing of this bike, Iíve read that the reach is very short compared to most bikes and was wondering for some real feedback. Will the large fit a 6ft rider ok? Thanks
    At 6' you are a large. I am just under 5'11" and ride a medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Robin View Post
    I've been looking at the ACV as an alternative to the C29. They look like they have similar numbers in terms of reach.

    So weegi, at 6' you're looking at a large for sure if you want to keep the stem short like 40mm or 50mm.

    As for weight, comparing the ACV's awesome looking swingarm, it's bigger and heftier than the rear ends on all the other trail bikes (C29, old Tracer, Recluse, Primer).

    I'd love to try one with a 29er front end with 160mm fork, 57mm shock and 27.5+ rear wheel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Robin View Post
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    Good morning everyone!

    Intense ACV 2017 Pro Build freshly ordered and waiting impatiently.

    Anyone could give any feedback about running 29ers wheels? I read everywhere that is compatible, or is just fine, and always saying that the geos were thought for 27.5+. But is anyone running 29 inch wheels regurarly?

    And i read aswell tha cranck are so close to the Chainstay tha there is even imposible to put the protectors on them

    Iíll put some pictures here as soon as i receive the bike and with a pair of 29 wheels.

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    I am running mine only as 29er because I built mine from frame up and already had 29er wheels, I also spoke to intense and Jeff himself runs it as a 29er they told me. I have Maxxis Ardent 2.4 tire on it without any issues. As far as the cranks I do not run boots so can not answer that question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZePequeno View Post
    Good morning everyone!

    Intense ACV 2017 Pro Build freshly ordered and waiting impatiently.

    Anyone could give any feedback about running 29ers wheels? I read everywhere that is compatible, or is just fine, and always saying that the geos were thought for 27.5+. But is anyone running 29 inch wheels regurarly?

    And i read aswell tha cranck are so close to the Chainstay tha there is even imposible to put the protectors on them

    Iíll put some pictures here as soon as i receive the bike and with a pair of 29 wheels.

    Cheers
    I'm currently running 27.5x3 Purgatory on Nobl TR45 front and rear, but plan to see if I can fit a 29x2.6 in there as well. First check with a 29x2.3 Purgatory was good, with plenty of clearance to the stays. I have more of a concern about hitting the swingarm cross bracing, lower link, or seat tube with a larger tire.

    I have Shimano XT cranks, and don't have any clearance issues, with all of the factory chainstay protection installed.

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    Hey Guys,
    Question regarding the bike and category. Iím a long time rider who has been out of the loop the last few years and looking to get back into riding.

    I am intrigued about the 27.5 plus category as my go to All Mountain rig. Still trying to figure out what category this bike falls into with the 150 up front suspension. Other bikes Iím looking at like the Santa Cruz tall boy and Salsa Pony Rustler are running 130 up front. Are there major differences between these bikes? Basically just trying to figure out the right option for a fun do anything trail bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanminded View Post
    Hey Guys,
    Question regarding the bike and category. Iím a long time rider who has been out of the loop the last few years and looking to get back into riding.

    I am intrigued about the 27.5 plus category as my go to All Mountain rig. Still trying to figure out what category this bike falls into with the 150 up front suspension. Other bikes Iím looking at like the Santa Cruz tall boy and Salsa Pony Rustler are running 130 up front. Are there major differences between these bikes? Basically just trying to figure out the right option for a fun do anything trail bike.
    It's definitely not a TB or PR competitor, and would eat those bikes alive on the downs. It anything, the ACV is more like a Hightower, or possibly a Hightower LT if you were to run a 57mm stroke shock as others have.
    Mine's setup as a monster truck, with 27.5x3.0 Purgatory tires, Cane Creek DB [IL] and a 150mm DVO Diamond. It climbs tech as well as my Mojo 3, and is pretty fun to ride. I wouldn't have a problem with the ACV as my only bike.

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    So how does the acv ride with 29er wheels? Iím torn between this and the primer. I like the idea of the acv then building a set of 29er but I want to make sure it rides good with both.

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    Introducing the Intense ACV 27.5+ Yes, they did!

    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas25 View Post
    So how does the acv ride with 29er wheels? Iím torn between this and the primer. I like the idea of the acv then building a set of 29er but I want to make sure it rides good with both.
    Just think of the ACV as a standard Primer frame (ACV is not an SL version) with a beefed up rear triangle. I'm fairly certain that they share front triangles, and that the geometry differences are a result of tire size and fork axle to crown differences. I haven't ridden mine with 29's yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbine_275 View Post
    It's definitely not a TB or PR competitor, and would eat those bikes alive on the downs. It anything, the ACV is more like a Hightower, or possibly a Hightower LT if you were to run a 57mm stroke shock as others have.
    Mine's setup as a monster truck, with 27.5x3.0 Purgatory tires, Cane Creek DB [IL] and a 150mm DVO Diamond. It climbs tech as well as my Mojo 3, and is pretty fun to ride. I wouldn't have a problem with the ACV as my only bike.
    Thanks for the info. It may be too much bike then for what Iím looking for. So basically to understand the category more the tire size doesnt really matter as much as the geometry and suspension on whether itís a trail bike or All-Mountain rig. Iím looking for an aggressive trail bike that climbs and decends well and can soak up the rough stuff with an occasional 2-3 ft hit. I have a bad back so prefer to ride a slack bike more in the back seat in a more upright position. Donít want to go the 29r route. Any suggestions on bikes in the plus tire size to take a look at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanminded View Post
    Thanks for the info. It may be too much bike then for what Iím looking for. So basically to understand the category more the tire size doesnt really matter as much as the geometry and suspension on whether itís a trail bike or All-Mountain rig. Iím looking for an aggressive trail bike that climbs and decends well and can soak up the rough stuff with an occasional 2-3 ft hit. I have a bad back so prefer to ride a slack bike more in the back seat in a more upright position. Donít want to go the 29r route. Any suggestions on bikes in the plus tire size to take a look at?
    I'm partial to my ACV and Ibis Mojo 3, which is also a plus bike, but with 2.8" tires. The ACV could be built up with a shorter travel fork if you wanted to. When II first built mine up all I had was a Fox 34 @130mm, and it was perfectly fine setup that way with about a 67 degree HTA, splitting the difference between a Primer and ACV.

    The biggest problem is that there's just so many great bikes to choose from.

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    Good morning!

    I already received my ACV and after the first ride my first impressions are great.

    1.- I'm 5'10" tall with 3,25 inch inseam and went for L size. Everything is perfect but just in the extreme of the seattube size (19") with 125mm travel of RS Reverb and 170mm cranks. No way for longer seatpost or cranks.

    2.- Following with cranks, to build this bike with RF Next cranks was a bit forced, the separation between the cranks and the chainstay is too narrow, it's impossible to dress the cranks with boots, even installed with a spacer. I installed the RF Turbine and now it's fine. What is the problem in here? Q-factor, Next is 168mm and Turbine 178mm. The rear end of the ACV is designed for Plus wheels, that means that is wider than regular ones and Next cranks has a too narrow Q-factor. It is possible to change the spindle, from RF134 to RF143, to increase the Q-factor, but then the Chainline grows from 51mm to 55.5mm, too wide.

    3.- Next week I'll install the 29" wheels and I will report the geometry changes. I hope the bike feels so good as now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat38 View Post
    Hmmmm. Never rubs



    How the hell did you managed? What frame size? Did you check what spindle do you have?

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    All original as built by Intense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat38 View Post
    All original as built by Intense
    Lucky you! Mine is as built by Intense too. It's an early production bike, maybe you have a bigger spacer in the spindle? In first reviews are talked about that "problem".

    Yesterday I rode it for the second time, in proper trails with big rocks and the sensation is still amazing. With plus wheels the feeling is like floating over the rocks. Still dialing the suspension and fork, looking for a good tunning. It's quite different than with "regular" tires. As well the turning and change of direction is very different, less lively.

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    My New ACV

    Weighing in at just 27lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Weighing in at just 27lbs
    Dang that looks sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Weighing in at just 27lbs
    What wheels a tire size are those? Is that intenseís HQ?
    Once you go slack, you never go back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    What wheels a tire size are those? Is that intenseís HQ?
    Enve 27.5 635s, tires are 2.8 front and rear. Yes that is in our front lobby. The photo does not do the bike justice.

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