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    Owyhees were excellent today!

    First:
    Thank you Craig and Geoff for going and getting Nels for me to pick me up after my pedal threads went south and I walked back to Wilson Creek Road instead of China Ditch.
    Craig I was going to ask you to speed up and then I would've hit the front brake hard via Jackass2, but no one offerred me $1M to do it, so no go

    Oddly nice:
    60 deg in SW Idaho in the middle of Feb who would've thunk it! Felt nice to wear regular gloves I could've taken off the thermal top and probaly worn shorts like Jeff.

    Let's see 9, who am I missing?

    Craig
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    Group rides are dang fun

    Craig and Warren, VERY impressed with you guys riding the chute down into Reynolds Canyon your first time. Craig you didn't even want to look at it at first.

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    Yeah what a nice day! Very warm....and no mud Eric ya shudda been there.
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    Looks perfect!!

    I'm glad it was mud free. I was worried over nothin'.
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    Glad we got you a ride home 98! No man left behind on my watch!

    That was great guys, thanks so much for the fantastic ride. Poor 98 had to one-leg it back from the top of China Wall -bummer man! You did great today.

    Nice meeting the new guys to me, and great leaders in EP and Nels not leaving us behind either. Let's do it again soon, sans the massive quad cramping!

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    Uggh, Ouch!
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    a few more pics

    today was another good example of why I love mountain biking....good guys+ perfect weather + excellent trail condition = a great day of fun.
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    I just don't understand my wife....she thinks its nuts to ride when the temperature is in the 20's....go figure

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    Great shots Swede - so glad you opted for dirt over assfault.

    Hey can you email that video you took? Or post it to photobucket or something and then email the link? Thanks man!

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    He opted out of the 60 miles and 4300' of climbing today.
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    Sorry Al

    but i felt wimpy yesterday so I opted for an easy 15 mile ride instead
    I just don't understand my wife....she thinks its nuts to ride when the temperature is in the 20's....go figure

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    No worries. Next week should be btwn 60-80 mile. Hopefully more like 60 and 6000'
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    Guess I'll consolidate the photos here.
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    Great to see you guys had a great time yesterday. Wished I woulda gotten there earlier.

    Despite the forecast calling for rain throughout the day in Marsing and Caldwell....it's pretty clear as of right now...I may try to head out there again later this morning or mid-afternoon. Or go for a 2C road ride. Or go for a run.

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    Daryl --- what kind of pedals were you using? Sucks to hear about your predicament. I was thinking of prodealing some 5050's, but for right now I ordered replacement pins for my Wellgo B-27's.

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    Hi Nick, would have been great if you couldn've rode with us.
    I have Azonic flats on the Reign. The pedals are fine, but the aluminum threading in the crankset basically "disintegrated".

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    All rested and feeling good.......

    Awesome ride yesterday, it was great to meet everybody. I had some killer leg cramps for a while but thats all over with now. Just ready to get out and do it again. Riding with a group of guys was a blast, that was the first time I have done that, although most of the time I was riding by myself in the back: just making sure no one dropped anything

    I thought it was interesting all the different people out there yesterday: Horsemen, Mt. Bikers, Atv'ers, familys out shooting and everyone seemed to get along and were respectful to each other, what a great day.

    Hope to do it again soon.

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    A fragile respect?

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    Like I mentioned in the other thread, I was heading back toward the Nick parking lot (I believe that is Trail #300 just south of the feedlot) when I happened upon 3 rednecks shooting into the hillside. They were right in the middle of the freaking trail that gets used quite a bit.

    I don't have that much of a problem with folks heading out into the desert to shoot their guns. All I ask is that they do it in less used areas. The trail that I'm talking about gets you over into the Reynolds Canyon area. Whenever I'm on it I tend to run into horseback riders.

    I said "Hello" to 'em and rode off. Within seconds they began shooting again. Startled the spackle out of me. When I was nearing the parking lot, I saw three horseback riders head towards them. When they got out of sight I still heard gunshots ringing out. When I was back at the parking lot there were two other horseback riders heading out the same way and they said that they felt like they were surrounded (there was shooting on the other side of the hillside as well).

    While it's probably out of the realm of possibilty to have "official" shooting areas out there, all I ask is that shooters please be more considerate of where they are shooting and understand that other users are in the vicinity.

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    and that they please remember.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    While it's probably out of the realm of possibilty to have "official" shooting areas out there, all I ask is that shooters please be more considerate of where they are shooting and understand that other users are in the vicinity.
    ...that they're not living with their mommas anymore, which means "pickup all your freaking litter" (aka shotgun shells) - slovenly creatures. Jeez it looked all ghetto out there with all those casings just piling up.

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    It's no wonder were running out of recreational places.

    Maybe it's just me? I didn't have a problem with anybody on the trail yesterday. The guy with the Truck, I am assuming is the one that had his family with him? I didn't even realize he was "blocking the trail" I guess I was just to busy enjoying myself to stop and criticize somebody else's decisions. The guy in the truck said Hi to me but I didn't say anything back because I couldn't catch my breath but I said Hi to his wife and kids who seemed very friendly. I just thought it was neat that they were out as a family doing something. I know I spent many days out in the Desert with mine growing up shooting in places that we can't now because of developments or other restrictions from other user groups. And I imagine people have been taking their kids into the desert to shoot much longer than heading out there to Mt. Bike. Yes, I noticed the shotgun shells on the ground also, but like with any group, hikers, bikers, horsemen, atver's you name it: your going to have your unresponsible ones. When my family went out shooting my father always made us pick up a bag of trash before we left and it was always someone else's junk: shotgun shells, beer bottles, old targets you name it. As a kid I couldn't understand why he was making me pick up somebody else's crap but as popular shooting spots started to close because of abuse I started to understand. We as Mt. Bikers aren't exempt from this behavior. How many of our trails are threatened because of abuse? I couldn't even count the number of cliff bar wrappers I have picked and guilty to say ridden by. I have even seen flatted tubes discarded on the side of the trails. I guess what I am saying is that we shouldn't lump the behaviors of a few inconsiderate types into one bundle and judge them all. Especially the groups that we may not agree with. When we go out into the desert it is probably likely that people will be shooting, their will be horsecrap in the middle of the trail or horses, people will need to find spots to park their vehicles, I would rather see it blocking part of the trail instead of widening it by pulling it off the road myself. It's when we start judging and pointing fingers of blame the arguing and fighting starts and we all end up losing. So I stand by what I said, it was a great day and I was glad to see all the different user types getting along, Well at least I was getting along!
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    Agreed

    Hey I had a great time too, I wasn't trying to be negative if it came off that way. You're right - there are good and bad apples in every bunch. It's just that I was shocked to see all the trailside trash & there's no excuse for the littering. The shooters, atv'ers, and horse folks all seemed really pleasant out there yesterday.

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    I was stoked on our group.

    I'm thinking maybe every time I ride there I'll take some bags with me and pick something up and take it out with me. I thought I heard talk that an agency (BLM) will be installing bathrooms at the parking areas/trailheads
    for the users (mtn bikers, horseback riders, hunters, ATV'rs, etc)?

    I hope the master plan might include installation of trash cans at the trailheads and maybe along other areas?
    Not sure how that would work as that would require money not only for the cans but also for the maintenance of it.
    However, I'm betting SWIMBA could come up with/donate monies for the cans.

    Is it realistic/feasible to place cans along both entrances to Reynolds Canyon, at the area near Bingo trailhead,
    and along Wilson Creek?

    Just thinking this might help preserve such an awesome place for all users to enjoy even more?
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    Rougue, redneck shooters and trappers? Very mature.

    The BLM needs to be notified of the rogue, redneck shooters and trappers out there before the place becomes "The Hills have Eyes".

    This is my point exactly! Why are we so quck to judge people we dont understand?

    The way I see it the guys stopped shooting when Nick went right buy them and started again after he passed. Sounds like common courtesy to me? And they were shooting into the hillside, which Nick stated. Which is the number one rule of shooting, always know your backstop. Sounds like these guys were following shooting ethics. I am sorry Nick got scared that must have been horrible for him hearing a loud noise like that out in the middle of the desert where citizens are aloud to be shooting. I guess what we need to do is before anyone goes out shooting, mt. biking, hiking, hunting, climbing, atv'ing is notify the authorities and have them escort us. Heck it works that way in Iran, and all you have to do is pay thousands of dollars for permits and permission. Lets keep fighting with each other until everything is completely regulated it will be tons better then. That way when someone builds booters or rides off the side of a trail to miss the water they can be fined immediately then we can really stop the Rouge, redneck illegal freeriders and Mt. bikers and ensure outdoor Nirvana for all. We can even have a little park that everyone can stand in and look around and say, " I remember when we used to"...Insert your favorite recreational activity here.......Then we will all be getting along grandly and no one will ever be offended! Maybe we can even put cameras up so the offenders can be dealt with promptly, hey then the hills will have eyes. I hope this sounds as absurd as stereotyping shooters as Rouge, redneck shooters and trappers. But I fear that some on this site may think its a good idea.......land of the free home of the intolerant!
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    Whats not "normal behavior?" please clarify.
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    Missed the point?

    Let me clarify my point. One I don't consider this an argument. If I wanted to argue with you I would get with you and do that in person. First off, this thread was extremely positive until your post.

    "I didn't like that one guy.........
    I wish we all would have stopped and said "hey, you might be able to block the trail better if you parked your truck sideways". Would he have shot us all, or would we have been able to tackle and control him first?!?

    You dont even know that "one guy" that is enjoying the day with his family. Yet here you are wondering about confronting him and the possibility of all of us being slaughtered in the desert by a man with a gun, family, and lawn chairs.

    My whole point here is that you, me, anyone else who wants to keep doing things that we enjoy need to learn to be more tolerant and less judgemental of others.

    Did you completely miss the whole thing I said about other user groups? It's not just shooters who are messing things up in the deserts.

    We all need to stop pointing fingers and start setting examples for each other.

    And thats my point. I mountain bike, I have taken my kids out shooting in the desert, I used to take horses out to the desert, I climb and do just about everything else I have time to with my kids and friends. Every one of my hobbies/activities it seems that someone wants to shut down. So when I see comments about wanting everything regulated and people pointing fingers its a bit frustrating.

    And remember, I was replying to what I consider a negative post of yours towards someone who was not able to defend themselves. So if you want to avoid "petty arguments" you should avoid stereotyping others. If you really believed the smiles on the stoked faces of the riders is what it is all about, you never should have made that post.

    You say you love Mt. biking! So do it. Just love it, enjoy it don't ride around on a trail wondering about confronting someone and wondering if they would of shot us all. Getting upset about litter, or anything else.

    I bet the guy with his family never even gave us a second thought after we rode by him. So why waste your time stewing over him. I didn't even know it was an issue until you posted. Just ride dude
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    Let us Pray now

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    D...... stop, please.
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    Don't change your tuen

    forgot to request this post deleted as well, thank you.
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    Take it offline, please. I don't wanna read this crap and I'll bet I'm not alone. Have your pissing match elsewhere and let's talk about riding.

    Anyone have any more pictures? It's nice to see rideable ground. Up here in Bozeman, I've been having to drive half an hour west just so that I can ride in *only* a couple of inches of snow.

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    Okay

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    I always thought Get_Lost's name was Warren. Who is Lyle? Or is Warren actually Lyle? Or Lyle is Warren?



    The forecast for next weekend in Marsing is a mixed bag....maybe clear....maybe rain/snow showers. Guess we'll know better come Friday or so. Anyhoo I'm definatley hoping to get out there again....shooters and rednecks and enviro whackos be damned!

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    Sorry folks....

    Hey guys, I'm sorry.

    Darryl, sorry if I offended you.

    Lesson learned.
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    Same here man

    Quote Originally Posted by Get Lost
    Hey guys, I'm sorry.

    Darryl, sorry if I offended you.

    Lesson learned.
    Sorry guys, for offending - including any political and religious comments.

    Lyle, I apologize for offending you. In fact, I never meant to start something with anybody. Again, I don't shoot so don't know how much of an inconvienence it is to pick up the shells so I've decided that what I'm going to do is take a plastic grocery double bag with me next ride out there and pick up all I see myself, and strap it to my camelbak and throw them away later (hope they're not live!). Anyway, most of them that we see on our track appear to be along upper Wilson Creek area, the area before the climb up to Bingos, and then some along Reynolds Canyon.


    My lesson is to be more sincere on the board to make sure I do not offend or to keep it strictly to biking topics. Most of those on this board are my main source of friends here in this Gem state - I am TOTALLY by myself, I have no family here like most of you do. But it's more than partially my fault because I've made no effort to go out and meet anybody outside of mtn biking, to go out onthe town and meet and date ladies, etc. Isolation probably not too healty - which is why gym workouts around people (positive environment), and group rides, mean so much to me. That IS my social nourishment at this time! So, I stand by my original statement that I was totally stoked and am always totally stoked to ride with you guys as it doesn't seem to happen often enough.

    I hope you will all want to ride with me as I am really a nice guy and have a good heart
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    Nick - You made me laugh. I almost spit out my coffee. It was a good bit of humor, intended or not.
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    I look forward to riding out there with ya Nick! Heck, we should set it up and do it.
    Next weekend is not good for me though - I actually have family coming into town! My cousin Daryl (yes, named after me) works for a refrigerated truck manufacturer and is going to Montana, then coming here to service his dealer here then onto Salt Lake City.

    I'm actually a bit stressed because I don't know where to take him/what to do, but am going to follow what Craig said and just show him around, hike in the footies a bit if we can, walk the greenbelt, go downtown, maybe hit some bars at night and talk to some honeys

    I don't know exactly what he does but he travels a lot apparently and makees good money!

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    Pics

    I forgot that I actually took a few (unimpressive snaps) at the early part of the ride. One of them cracked me up...

    You know that one credit card commercial where the 3 guys are "riding" their mtb's (2 have bikes, 1 doesn't)? Here's GetLost's version of the commercial..
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    Golly. It sounds like there are multi-use issues on public lands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    Golly. It sounds like there are multi-use issues on public lands.
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    Hey Warren are those Race Face knee/shin guards? If so what size do you have? I have a pair of large and I start losing circulation in my calves on the ride up the chairlift. Any chance you have XL?

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    That's funny! The riding and terrain in the credit card commerical is lame - they should follow Nissan's example!

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    666's not race face, I like them. Not sure what size but probably El Grande!
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    Freudian Slip?

    Quote Originally Posted by Get Lost
    666's not race face, I like them. Not sure what size but probably El Grande!
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    666.....661..Ya! Whatever it takes.
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    Is that Britney Spears with her head shaved? She looks luscioulicsious!!!!! Not

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