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    Last night's ride and Trail semi-rant :)

    Had a good workout ride last night - went up the 15th st connector, down the fast short section behind CB, up the little ridge don't know what it's called (Chickadee?), up the freeway, down the connector, up Central Ridge, Shanes, down Bucks, up the connector over to and down hulls.

    at the bottom of the climb up Shanes, where the intersection of Bucks is, this chick was climbing up Bucks, she had a Ritchey Jersey and was riding a silver either SC superlight or a Racer X, I got in front of her and kept a bit of distance on the climb. When we got up the singletrack, I put it in the big ring and thought I'd lose her on the flat singletrack, but she pedaled hard! On the stretch of singletrack before the little gulley/g out I was pedaling inthe big ring at race pace and she was one me. Man, this chick was strong. After the g out I said "you can pass now" and pulled to the side. She said "no, you're my motivation". Sheet, I let her pass!!

    I think she might have been a pro or at least expert racer - very strong.

    Anwyay, lots of people on the trails last night - I had to stop a lot, and could not let it go down Hulls and right before the rock section, of course, some hikers were coming up.......
    then I got another goathead (TONS of goatheads out there now) in my front tire/tube and the airlock tube would not seal and my POS pump took forever to pump it up once it sealed.

    Anyway, good workout but we really need more technical trails in the foothills that are (ideally) bike only, and that are more technical than Hulls and Bobs.........
    It's kind of easy to get a bad attitude about our trails in the local foothills sometimes - I dont' want to go there but if you think about it............

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    Daryl's Trail - All Rock Not Smooth

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrdr98
    but we really need more technical trails in the foothills that are (ideally) bike only, and that are more technical than Hulls and Bobs.........
    It's kind of easy to get a bad attitude about our trails in the local foothills sometimes - I dont' want to go there but if you think about it............
    If your really serious about trails that you want to ride then do something about it.

    Ranting/talking about trails is fine, making it your life passion is another story.

    It's time for the Treasure Valley put together a FreeRide Trails Advocacy group. As long as individuals take up the cause it will only be an individual effort.

    A MTB group can control their own trails/riders and create their own trails/riders will be much more effective.

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    Dude....did you like talk to her or whatnot or just let her pass you? C'mon Daryl you gots to throw out some game!!!

    I know this has been discussed alot before, but we need to realize that the lower Foothills trails like Military Reserve, Table Rock, and the Camel's Back/8th Street are gonna be busy in the late afternoon/early evening as well as on the weekends especially when the weather is really damn nice like it is now. I know that when I start a ride at 5:30pm on a Wednesday, I'm bound to run into a lot of people. Would I love to let 'er rip coming down Bucktail? Of course I would, but I don't because I know people both on foot and bike will be coming up it. I've been on the bad end of nimrods with zero trail etiquette and I certainly don't need to be part of that.

    If you want to get away from folks, then you have to head up to the lesser used trails.

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn
    It's time for the Treasure Valley put together a FreeRide Trails Advocacy group. As long as individuals take up the cause it will only be an individual effort.
    Isn't that what Ian is doing through SpudHucksters?

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    Ian and SWIMBA

    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Isn't that what Ian is doing through SpudHucksters?
    I don't think Ian/SpudHucksters has a Mission Statement or a Charter or 501c3 status.

    He is attempting to get done what he wants through SWIMBA and his own presonal inititive.

    He will eventually burn out just as Chris did.

    We need an Organized effort - I'am not bagging on Ian or SWIMBA it's just with an Official FreeRide Charter there are no hidden agenda's to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrdr98
    When we got up the singletrack, I put it in the big ring and thought I'd lose her on the flat singletrack, but she pedaled hard! On the stretch of singletrack before the little gulley/g out I was pedaling inthe big ring at race pace and she was one me. Man, this chick was strong. After the g out I said "you can pass now" and pulled to the side. She said "no, you're my motivation". Sheet, I let her pass!!

    I think she might have been a pro or at least expert racer - very strong.

    Anyway, good workout but we really need more technical trails in the foothills that are (ideally) bike only, and that are more technical than Hulls and Bobs.........
    It's kind of easy to get a bad attitude about our trails in the local foothills sometimes - I dont' want to go there but if you think about it............
    There were lots of strong females out in the MR last night. I was there for a couple hours. Stopped to chat with SweetFlowerSister and another couple gals at the bottom of Shane's. Saw the Pig rockin the SS world, a couple of teenagers on SingleSpeeds---?? Lotsa fun. But yeah, the foothills get boring this time of year (time of life?), which is why I went to singlespeeding about 5yrs ago, then got tired of that and bought lights, then started riding up the mtn, then went to FS. Whatever it takes to keep the mojo risin...

    sorry I missed you last night Daryl. I did 2 rides in the MR last night. First was the pre-group solo at a good pace, and then the slow Barney pace later on.

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    Ian has been working hard I know, and I have not helped at all partly because of obligations but I DO actually have some time. It sounds like Ian was thoughtful enuf to include trails/stunts up at Bogus, that lesser mortals can ride and learn on. But this whole things brings me full circle back to my bike and makes me want to find a way to pay off and get on my Dirtbag then!

    Thing is, there isn't that much around here to ride unless someone "in the know" takes you out to do it. There is Willow Lane, which is great for me to learn on, but doesn't require a Dirtbag. I think I'll make myself available to help onthe next project that Spudhucksters is doing, if they post an invite on here or there

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    Daryl Does Rock!

    Daryl -
    Read this post!

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=231920

    Show up and make a difference,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrdr98
    After the g out I said "you can pass now" and pulled to the side. She said "no, you're my motivation". Sheet, I let her pass!!

    ............
    Dude, you gotta take that one and run with it. She was hitting on you!

    And no I don't think Ian is going to burn out like Chris did, at least Ian is doing something and being active with trailbuilding efforts and working with the forest service and SWIMBA now. As far as I could tell Chris didn't do a thing, he had is own agenda (i.e. inviting SWIMBA execs on "private" rides in the Smokeys)

    And come on D, I know lot's of people rant about the Boise foothills not being technical enough, but that's not the kind of terrain around here. Go up to Bogus and put some work in on those trails and build what you want. There are lots of people on the trails in the Boise foothills, that's just the nature of Boise in 2006. Ride at night, there was no one out last night after the sun went down. We rode all of M.R. last night up to Orchard back down Five Mile back up Shanes and down Bucktail and didn't see anyone else.

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    Chris IS a Trailbuilder

    Quote Originally Posted by ryman
    And no I don't think Ian is going to burn out like Chris did, at least Ian is doing something and being active with trailbuilding efforts and working with the forest service and SWIMBA now. As far as I could tell Chris didn't do a thing, he had is own agenda (i.e. inviting SWIMBA execs on "private" rides in the Smokeys)
    There is so much most people don't know about Chris (he's not a very good self promoter) - Don't assume anything you hear is the end all info on Chris.

    My point is no individual can support the effort alone that it takes to build a sustainable trail.

    The Bogus effort is fine but it will take a seasonal crew to get things up and running every year.

    Bogus does'nt address the issue of multiple lines and progressive trails to bring nubies into the fold. Only a charter can dictate this.

    Organizing and implementing effective trail crews is a huge effort - Just ask Al, Chris, Dan, Dave, Tim, Ian. I know I'am leaving out many dedicated people who have led the charge, luckily for us riding dirt has it's rewards.
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    Ryman, Thanks for the cross post. I'll be out on Rock Island again tonite, if anyone wants to help keep that trail maintained. Tonite, I'll be working blocking the new threading on the lower section of Rock Island.

    I want to thank Impdude again for showing. Thanks for coming through, and helping out.

    To everyone who rides that trail: Please keep it singletrack. Walk it if you can't ride it. Keep it single. If you must ride around a rock, please choose one side to minimize the development of multiple lines (threads) around the rocks.
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    Hehe yeah maybe so! That might have led to an enjoyable conversation or meeting someone but as I think about it now too, maybe she had her own training agenda or something, she was riding hard! Next time I'll throw out a little hook to chat a bit!

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrdr98
    She said "no, you're my motivation".
    Translation...

    "I'm checking out your fine ass." <--- jeez no wonder I wear a pink helmet now .

    Shoulda got the digits Daryl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn

    Organizing and implementing effective trail crews is a huge effort - Just ask Al, Chris, Dan, Dave, Tim, Ian. I know I'am leaving out many dedicated people who have led the charge, luckily for us riding dirt has it's rewards.

    I'm sure Chris is doing a lot for SWIMBA, just behind the scenes in dealing with the forest service, land managers, private landowners. I do applaud him for taking that on, that is a huge effort. My only rant about him was that if he is acting as a public service liason with SWIMBA he does need to be a bit more visible in the public eye. It does seem that trail efforts are advancing and things are happening that are more progressive. As with any trail system that gets built no matter where it is, Mt Seymour, Fernie, Nelson, Sun Valley. It takes time to get trails built in the fashion people want them to be built in. I know Tamaracks trails got built in a few summers, BUT that's private land owners and lot's of $$$ went into that trail system. The Boise foothills are an on-going project. All of the SWIMBA people, Chris, Dan, Dave, Tim, Ian, Al, and others WILL make it happen, it'll just take some time.

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    Ryan? I don't think Chris burned out, I just think he's focusing on furthering his career right now, and things.....that's cool, although he should at least say hello to the folks that take the time to call him to say hello.......

    As for the trails, it's not the users - I think it's great there are a lot of people out there enjoying the trails, that should perpetuate them as there's strong interest in numbers to protect their staying open to us.

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    Bret - Thanks for the props.

    Ghris Fook has his own deal goin' on...aka MBA and GF. And to his credit, trail advocacy, planning and maintenance takes a lot of time...time which he took...whether for the rest of us or for himself, I think he deserves good trail kharma for a long time.

    It is funny, I did give him a lot of shitazu, but he did DO things. I think everyone has to remember that he did do things.

    If you love to ride, give some love back. Help maintain trails and be an advocate.

    And yeah...I miss the spackle posts of old....
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    DK, a Solution:

    technical pumptrack


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    CP,

    tomorrow evening maybe, your track? Would that light work you think?

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    Why do these posts always suck so bad? For one thing 98 had the chance to do some pump trackin in the sage but he decided he didn't want to "come up for coffee". Ouch fecking ouch. For another, whiners should be lined up behing the barn and sprayed with White Lightning. For another, it's not winter, it's not cold, the trails are not muddy and there are plenty of miles to put in. And finally all Republicans and other neocon types are pussies and are the reason our country is so fecked up and the Republican congress if filled with porn-swapping homos.. OK professional wrestling and text messaging have contributed to the monumental problems sweeping our society under the carpet with the dust mice, but for the most part this country sucks so bad because of the Republican. Those guys are also the reason our foothills riding is so pisspoor. Not only that but when you look at suburban society where front doors are minor compared to the multiple garage doors that face the street and people don't even socialize with one another and people are so paranoid that they build their homes into little fortresses with hamburgular alarms and 6-foot high fences. Then they build their own in-home movie theaters and to make it worse they build their own private parks in their back yards. Holy craporama what is wrong with this country?

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    I just signed you up to receive emails from the republican party, people's republic of china, and indemnity republic insurance and also sent you an invite to ride my personal pump track, but the code to get in my security gate is 666 and then once we're done riding your cross bike and throwing up we can go upstairs to watch some Kranked in my movie theater room.

    Man you crack me up, seriously, I laugh at everything you post! Let's ride till our ears bleed, not paying to freeride though.

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    Dirk You Are One Twisted Dude!!!

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    Skid mark

    Next time you think the foothills are too easy, hit Winco for some Jimmy Dean pure pork sausage and some Metamucil. Hork down a bunch of pork and fiber before you hit the trails. Donít just do the lower Barney trials but really get after it and get up into the foothills. Once that sphincter starts getting twitchy, turn around and letír ripe on the way home. Now all those monster water bars will test your muster and show what kind of rider you really are!

    If some creepy girl (or guy don't want to be sexist) starts catching up with, you know what to do. But be careful! Too much could leave you with a rancid skid mark. Or worse yet, a total Greg Lemond Tour dí Frog blow out. But donít worry, that double skid mark might get you a free beer with your buddies down at Luckyís.

    If you arenít into pork and fiber, you might try riding with a bob trailer with some tools and doing some trail work. Naw, that would just lead to more and better trials.

    This post was brought to you in honor of the Vicypher who once use to write great poo grams!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishbuddha
    This post was brought to you in honor of the Vicypher who once use to write great poo grams!
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    Chris Cook's defense

    Chris has done more trail work in the last 5 year than anyone including myself. He has also done more than anyone for the Mnt Bike community. Chris made one mistake and is paying for it. Unfortunatly we will all suffer without his involvement.

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    That bottle is WAY better once it is warmed up....

    And Buddha, all my big rides start with a bowl of oatmeal, snausages, and two eggs...how did you know? And yeah...I've squeeze my share of silly putty out on the Foothill. I always wave though!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmeek
    Chris has done more trail work in the last 5 year than anyone including myself. He has also done more than anyone for the Mnt Bike community. Chris made one mistake and is paying for it. Unfortunatly we will all suffer without his involvement.
    More trailwork than you D? Holy cow!
    I know that Chris has done a lot of groundwork with gettting trailwork pushed thru. So my apologies go out to Chris.
    He HAS done and is still doing some great work with the Stack Rock areas and other areas I'm sure. It does suck that some things happened that Chris is now "paying" for and this board can do some unjustice and can blow things out of proportion.

    SO. Chris keep up the good work going on behind the scenes and hope to see you out working on the trails with us.....don't forget Gardner Peak is coming up soon!

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    Paying for it!

    Quote Originally Posted by dmeek
    Chris has done more trail work in the last 5 year than anyone including myself. He has also done more than anyone for the Mnt Bike community. Chris made one mistake and is paying for it. Unfortunatly we will all suffer without his involvement.

    I agree with you DMeek. And my opininon is that if anyone or any organization think that Chris is paying for anything or needs to, they are mistaken. IMHO, He does not have to pay for anything or feel ashamed of anything, and I'm not trying to guess if he feels that way. but what a joke! The guy has done Sooooo much for mtn biking here.

    I can't even assume he's laying low, just because he hasn't called ME back to say hello. I bet he's in communication with those he want to be, like you, dave, ian, etc.....harley

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    Burn Out?

    Unlikely! I'm just getting started. As far as turning into an organization, we are working on it. I've already registered Spudhucksters as an official club with IMBA and we will be filing for nonprofit status as soon as I'm not spending so much time BUILDING TRAILS!!!!! We haven't posted an official day lately because the season is ending. We've been trying to fix what we have built so far, kind of tweaking it to make it better and in some respects, make it more approachable for more riders.

    If you care to see easier alternate lines, please come on up and make them. I REALLY want to see more lines for all riders. I don't mean XC type of trails but I'd like to see beginner freeride lines so people won't feel intimidated. We've had some beginners up there already riding the upper lines and having a blast. All I have to say is get involved. Email the site and find out when we are going to be up there. I'll be up there this Sunday for instance trying to bench cut and do some riding also. Instead of talking about it,come on up and give some sweat equity. I truly believe things are improving around here and I'll keep doing my part to make it happen.

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    Spud Huckster Dues

    Ian

    Do yo have a way for people to join and pay due to give you mony to support your cause.
    If you do post it and I am sure you could generate some funds.

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    Contact him through www.SpudHucksters.com. There is a link on there to his email. Just tell him you're interested in the cause...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan the Terrible
    Unlikely! I'm just getting started. As far as turning into an organization, we are working on it. I've already registered Spudhucksters as an official club with IMBA and we will be filing for nonprofit status as soon as I'm not spending so much time BUILDING TRAILS!!!!! We haven't posted an official day lately because the season is ending. We've been trying to fix what we have built so far, kind of tweaking it to make it better and in some respects, make it more approachable for more riders.

    If you care to see easier alternate lines, please come on up and make them. I REALLY want to see more lines for all riders. I don't mean XC type of trails but I'd like to see beginner freeride lines so people won't feel intimidated. We've had some beginners up there already riding the upper lines and having a blast. All I have to say is get involved. Email the site and find out when we are going to be up there. I'll be up there this Sunday for instance trying to bench cut and do some riding also. Instead of talking about it,come on up and give some sweat equity. I truly believe things are improving around here and I'll keep doing my part to make it happen.

    Ian
    These are some great pics Ian http://spudhucksters.com/BogusCollageI.html , thanks for sharing and I appreciate what you and the crew have done up there. Been too swamped with family stuff to be able to get back up recently....sorry

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