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    Crankworx Idaho - A possibility?

    My bro over in CO is excited about getting to check this out next week http://www.crankworxcolorado.com/ and it makes me wonder if there's a big enough interest in SW ID (or anywhere else in ID for that matter) to lure such an event? It looks like a great franchise success story that could be duplicated all over the place. I just want to know what kind probability of this coming here.

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    It probably depends on a ski-resort (or town or individual?) plunking down enough cash and resources to make it happen. There's a lot of time to coordinate, promote, and build a course like that. Locally, Tamarack is the only place I can think of that would even consider doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    It probably depends on a ski-resort (or town or individual?) plunking down enough cash and resources to make it happen. There's a lot of time to coordinate, promote, and build a course like that. Locally, Tamarack is the only place I can think of that would even consider doing that.

    Perhaps they could name it the George W. Bush Crankworx?
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    OK OK I'll do it. It'll be called the TwistedCrankworx and everyone has to ride a cross bike and it'll be tits of fun for shmoes who can ride their bike for more that 6 hours. BANK!
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    Wonderful suggestions

    I appreciate Wayndar's input.

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    That's a tough one.

    A few things to consider - as I have heard, Whistler spends about $50,000-$80,000 building the bike park terrain features (bulldozers) and structures on the lower part of the mountain every year just to flatten again for skiing in winter - thats a lot of paid lift tickets & these features are mostly unused; basically only for Crankworx and a couple more competitions we have here. (also based on over 100,000 bike visits - no-one else is near this number)

    Winter Park is building the same kind of thing (I think a bit smaller) but have an advantage because they are part of the Intrawest family (they own Whistler & Winter Park & have a biking consulting company). Even they are having 'trouble' building the features because its partly on Forest Service land and USFS doesn't seem to like the repeated environmental damage (i.e. constant dirt with no vegetation) - we are much luckier in Canada from this perspective (I can't recall whether Tamarack is USFS or private land)

    Another point is population/already captive visitors - Winter Park is near 3-4 million population in Denver, Vancouver at 2 million & believe it or not, Whistler has more summer visitors than winter ones (& 50,000 beds). A recent survey says that 25,000 people come to Whistler for Crankworx only (I think the number is extremely inflated, but......)

    I would probably see another Intrawest resort - Mountain Creek - in New Jersey as the next Crankworx (15 million? people in NYC) (by the way 'Crankworx" is likely a trademark associated with Intrawest resorts)

    Sorry I seem so negative about the possibility in Idaho, but if you can't get it in your own backyard, come on up July 21. As I told Bombin4X while riding in Boise, Whistler is only a 11-12 hour drive (Moab is 8-9 hours, so we are not much farther). (Bombin4X, see if you can sneak away)

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    Crankworx? Take a peek here for some interesting stuff.

    http://westernslopestyle.blogspot.com/

    Enjoy
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    Thanks Dave, didn't even think that the course would need to be removed after the event. Yikes. Good to see you chiming in. I'd never be able to ride in this kind of thing, but would love to experience the event. I just might have to make that trip to Whistler...next year perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    OK OK I'll do it. It'll be called the TwistedCrankworx and everyone has to ride a cross bike and it'll be tits of fun for shmoes who can ride their bike for more that 6 hours. BANK!
    Do you really think guys like Simmons/Gullevich/Berrecloth/Vanderham/etc can't pedal? I know it makes everybody feel good to think that these guys who ride at a level none of us can imagine can't handle aerobic stuff but you're kidding yourself. While I am no huge fan of the whole slopestyle thing (don't like the subjective judging, but do appreciate the amazing talent of the riders), there is no denying the stallioness (my own word) of the riders.

    While I would love to see some sort of Crankworx in Idaho, I give it absolutely no shot in hell for all the reasons the Whistler dude mentioned........and, we live in an area where a trail like Rock Island (which is a fine trail, mind you) is considered freeride and a trail utilizing only natural materials to create some sort of freeride terrain in the area (Big Wood) is blown up. I know, I know, there was apparently never an official "OK" from the Forest Service for that trail, but you get my point.

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    All good points. I mean the good ones, that is. Well it was a lofty thought that I might not have to drive 12+ hours to see something cool like this..

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    So in a nutshell- there aren't enough people here (and therefore enough $) to make this happen. Thank God. I'd rather have to drive for an event like Crankworx, than have to throw elbows on the trails.

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    Nay Sayers Have No Clue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    So in a nutshell- there aren't enough people here (and therefore enough $) to make this happen. Thank God. I'd rather have to drive for an event like Crankworx, than have to throw elbows on the trails.
    Even though the Soothe Sayers have spoken - don't give up the fight.

    As the sport grows there's really no predicting it's future. CrankWorxs in Idaho? Maybe/Maybe not, depends on how the sport of freeriding goes.

    Who could predict Redbull pulling out of Virgin.

    Anyway back to the topic, Cranworx may not come to Idaho but a Free-Ride Festival under a different banner/name may.

    My guess is Tamarack is working on a toned down Crankworx as they have so much invested in the freeride scene.
    Last edited by Crash_Burn; 07-06-2007 at 10:03 AM.

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    I don't claim to be a sooth sayer. Actually a Crankworx type contest would be really cool to watch and I would support it. Maybe a Crankworx of some scale will happen. Maybe its local guys with portable ramps in downtown Boise. Maybe Tam teams up with RedBull or Jeep or someone and they build a huge event. I'm skeptical that its a money making venture with long-term viabiliy. Then again, maybe the point of the event is not to make money, but to advertise a ski area, generate name recognition, and "put heads in beds" (resort-executive type talk).

    I'm usually not such a pessimist- what's wrong today? Maybe I'm just finally stoked on riding trails again after a few months of low motivation and ho-hum trail riding and am glad that I can ride uncrowded trails- which was completely OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    I don't claim to be a sooth sayer.

    I'm usually not such a pessimist- what's wrong today? Maybe I'm just finally stoked on riding trails again after a few months of low motivation and ho-hum trail riding and am glad that I can ride uncrowded trails- which was completely OT.
    You got it going on - Valley County is the spot now.

    Sharing it with the world must be tough. It's hard growing up. Tamarack seems to have put the VC on roids.

    I'll be biking at 7 am and on the river at 7 pm cause it so frickin hot down here, enjoy it while you got it!

    The good weather that is.

    Wayndar - My bad, I didn't mean to lump you in with the nay sayers
    Last edited by Crash_Burn; 07-06-2007 at 09:47 AM.

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