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    Good job! Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread. DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.

    I plan on this first post getting longer as I update it with more information related to tuning the Ripmo. I am using a shock wiz to fine tune the settings.
    Please use my format when posting your settings. Any feedback is appreciated. Ride weight, frame size tire pressure are all important.

    Settings spreadsheet link
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Printable torque and setting setup to post next to bike
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t?usp=drivesdk

    All Settings are counted from full CLOSED

    Tuning tip: Adding air to your fork will put extra weight on the shock. Tune as a system.

    1-(my weight (190)/your weight) = percentage difference in PSI.
    This percentage can be used to adjust all setting.
    If you are hitting big jumps then you will need more damping and spacers. If your trails are tame you will be better off with less damping and spacers.

    2018 X2's have an 11mm shorter air can. I believe that both the positive and negative chambers are smaller. This is backed up by the CR differences.
    Smaller negative = less sag at same PSI
    Smaller positive = slightly less sag at same PSI

    The 2019 will need 1 more spacer for a similar CR and will need 10-25 psi more pressure for the same sag. This is a good thing as it offers more mid stroke support and better small bump compliance at the same time.

    When tuning the rear shock with Shockwiz it has constantly asked me to reduce LSC. Others have reported the same thing. The Ripmo seems to like a very light compression tune. It could also be that because of the over 100% anti-squat the Shockwiz gets confused. It's excepting bob and it never sees it so it keeps trying to reduce LSC. I haven't noticed any ill effects from running it almost wide open.

    Frame size - XL
    Rider weight ready to ride - 190 lb
    Rider style - Aggressive with 3 to 4 foot drops
    Terrain - Cow hoofed clay with few sharp rocks. Very Very steep, loose and dry.

    Tire 1
    Front Tire - DHF 2.5 WT 3C________18psi Add +4psi for rocky terrain
    Rear Tire - Aggressor 2.5 WT Dual__21psi

    Tire 2 winter setup
    Front Tire - DHF 2.6 WT 3C________18psi Add +4psi for rocky terrain
    Rear Tire - DHF 2.5 WT 3C________21psi

    Setup 1
    Fork 2019 Fox 36 grip2 44m Offset 160mm Fox P/N 910-20-624
    Comes with 1 spacer. UPDATED 1-9-19

    Air Pressure________61 psi
    Volume Spacers_____3
    Sag_______________25% dynamic
    LSR_______________8
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________7
    HSC_______________12

    Setup 2
    Fork 2019 Fox 36 grip2 44m Offset 160mm Fox P/N 910-20-624
    Vorsprung Luftkappe no spacers. UPDATED 12-30-18

    Air Pressure________62 psi
    Volume Spacers_____vorsprung luftkappe + 1 spacer
    Sag_______________25% dynamic
    LSR_______________8
    HSR_______________2
    LSC_______________7
    HSC_______________12

    Shock 2019 Fox X2 210x55mm Upper 25x8mm, Lower: 15x8mm
    Comes with 1 spacer.

    Update 12-30-18
    Air Pressure________210 psi
    Volume Spacers_____4
    Sag_______________28%
    LSR_______________11
    HSR_______________9
    LSC_______________22 full open.
    HSC_______________21


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    Frame size - L
    Rider weight ready to ride - 190lb
    Rider style - Aggressive with 3 to 4 foot drops
    Terrain -

    Front Tire - Butcher Grid 2.6________20psi
    Rear Tire - Butcher Grid 2.3_______26psi

    Fork 2019 Fox 36 grip2 44mm offset 160mm
    Air Pressure(L/H)________66/120psi
    Volume Spacers_____DSD Runt
    Sag_______________18% Dynamic
    LSR_______________11
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________11
    HSC_______________16

    Shock 2018 Fox X2
    Air Pressure________199 psi
    Volume Spacers_____4
    Sag_______________33% Seated, Dynamic.
    LSR_______________9
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________17
    HSC_______________20

    Static, attack position sag about 25% for the shock.
    5-10% suspension reserve with aggressive riding on all but the biggest drops.

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    Frame size - XL
    Rider weight ready to ride - 205lb
    Rider style - Intermediate-aggro
    Terrain: Little bit of everything CA has to offer.

    Front Tire - Maxxis DHF 2.5 : 24-30psi
    Rear Tire - Maxxis DHR 2.4 : 26-30psi

    Fork YEAR MODEL: 2019 Fox 36 Grip2 / PUSH ACS3
    Green Spring 50lb/in
    15psi Bumpstop

    Air Pressure________NA psi
    Volume Spacers_____NA
    Sag_______________~30%
    LSR_______________7
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________ 8
    HSC_______________13


    Shock: YEAR 2018, MODEL Fox X2

    Air Pressure________ 200psi
    Volume Spacers_____ 2
    Sag_______________+28%
    LSR_______________18
    HSR_______________10
    LSC_______________18
    HSC_______________20



    CR = Compression Ratio

    2019 Fox 36 fork
    1 spacers = 2.5 CR
    2 spacers = 2.6 CR
    3 spacers = 2.8 CR
    vorsprung luftkappe 0 spacers 2.6 CR
    vorsprung luftkappe 1 spacers 2.8 CR


    2019 Fox X2 shock
    3 spacers = 2.9 CR
    4 spacers = 3.2 CR

    2018 fox X2 shock
    2 spacers + limiter = 2.9 CR
    3 spacers = 3.1 CR
    4 spacers = 3.3 CR.  - Adjusted max pressure = 220

    bikedrd - I measured their volume, and it seems the limiting spacer has half the volume of the fox volume spacer.

    Pictures for o-ring at full travel.

    2019 X2
    Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread.  DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.-20181101_172649.jpg

    2018 X2 11mm more shaft exposed.
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    2018 vs 2019 X2
    Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread.  DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.-20181106_205022.jpg

    2019 fox 36 grip2
    Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread.  DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.-fork.jpg



    good tuning links
    http://www.shockcraft.co.nz/media/wy...p_guide_v0.pdf

    https://bikerumor-wpengine.netdna-ss...etup-Guide.pdf

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIF...xXWztlig1TiT5g


    Copy just this part:
    Name:
    Frame size -
    Rider weight ready to ride - lb
    Rider style -
    Terrain -

    Front Tire - TYPE : psi
    Rear Tire - TYPE : psi

    Fork YEAR MODEL

    Air Pressure________ psi
    Volume Spacers_____
    Sag_______________%
    LSR_______________
    HSR_______________
    LSC_______________
    HSC_______________


    Shock: YEAR, MODEL

    Air Pressure________ psi
    Volume Spacers_____
    Sag_______________%
    LSR_______________
    HSR_______________
    LSC_______________
    HSC_______________
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    2018 X2.
    4 spacers = 3.3 CR. 😉
    Adjusted max pressure = 220

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    Thanks for doing this as I have struggled to make my forks perform well.

    Is rider weight is ready to ride?

    I have zero experience with the whiz, what do the output numbers mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd View Post
    Thanks for doing this as I have struggled to make my forks perform well.

    Is rider weight is ready to ride?

    I have zero experience with the whiz, what do the output numbers mean?

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    Yes ready to ride. I updated the post.

    The shock wiz compression ratio measures how much the air is compressed. This will tell you how linear the fork/shock will feel going threw it's full travel.
    Ratios from 2.4-2.7 feel very linear.
    Ratios from 2.8-3.2 have much more ramp.

    Higher ratio = more sag, same bottom out resistance, at less PSI.
    I'm heavy and like a 2.9ish ratio to give me 95% travel with decent sag.

    Knowing the ratio also helps to balance out the bike front to rear. The Ripmo has very linear rear curve and should be close to the fork ratio. Rider preference plays a roll in this.

    The shock wiz is a great tuning tool and has made me much better at feeling the changes in my suspension.
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    Do the 2019 X2's get that much travel past the Kashima Logo? When I air down my 2018 it stops before I hit the logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scepticshock View Post
    Do the 2019 X2's get that much travel past the Kashima Logo? When I air down my 2018 it stops before I hit the logo.
    Yes. the picture is after sitting on the seat with no air in the shock. 2019 have a bigger bottom out bumper, so it might even compress more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Yes. the picture is after sitting on the seat with no air in the shock. 2019 have a bigger bottom out bumper, so it might even compress more.
    Thanks. I never actually sat on my seat with no air I the shock, so there might be more in mine too.

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    I'm wondering what the actual stroke length is for the 2019 X2.
    This is full travel on the 2018 at 55mm stroke. Curious if there is actually more travel with the 2019 or just a change in overall exposed shaft length.

    Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread.  DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.-stroke.jpg
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    The 2019 has a 11mm shorter shaft and 11mm longer air can. The 2019 has internal ribbing in the spacer area that the 2018 doesn't have too.
    Since this is a new metric size I bet that fox hacked together the 2018 from other shocks. Makes sense that the CR is higher on the 2018 with the smaller air can.
    I just happen to have a loner 2018 and a new 2019 on the bike.
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    Great comparison. I don't remember seeing in your posts if you have ridden both on the Ripmo? Significant performance difference? Thx.

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    Can the 2019 X2 for the Ripmo be bought from Fox yet?

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    Good job guys! My beast just arrived. 2019 shock and fork, so if i have 200 weight whats your suggestion where to start to setup?Btw what is basic count of spacers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Great comparison. I don't remember seeing in your posts if you have ridden both on the Ripmo? Significant performance difference? Thx.
    This +++

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Great comparison. I don't remember seeing in your posts if you have ridden both on the Ripmo? Significant performance difference? Thx.
    I didn't get to ride the 2018. my 2019 arrived right away and I was sick so only around the block.

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    Can the 2019 X2 for the Ripmo be bought from Fox yet?
    Nope. OEM only right now. Ibis might be able to help you out if you contact them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJV View Post
    Good job guys! My beast just arrived. 2019 shock and fork, so if i have 200 weight whats your suggestion where to start to setup?Btw what is basic count of spacers?
    Hi SaintJV
    I would add 1-(190/200)=5% to my numbers on psi. Since you weigh more you will need more damping to handle the extra energy. 0-1 click more should do it, but this will depend on style and terrain.

    I'm still working on the settings so check back as plan on updating them every week for the next month or so.
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    alexbn921 - Borrowed your post for framework, just plugged in my numbers. 100/100 ShockWiz tunes with excellent feel and ride quality.


    Frame size - L
    Rider weight ready to ride - 190 lb
    Rider style - Aggressive with 3 to 4 foot drops and jumps.
    Terrain - steep with rocks, roots, drops and jumps to flat. Dry and loose.

    Front Tire - Butcher Grid 2.6________20psi
    Rear Tire - Butcher Grid 2.3_______26psi
    Add +4psi for rocky terrain

    All Settings are counted from full CLOSED

    Tuning tip: Adding air to your fork will put extra weight on the shock. Tune as a system.

    1-(my weight (190)/your weight) = percentage difference in PSI.
    This percentage can be used to adjust all setting.
    If you are hitting big jumps then you will need more damping and spacers. If your trails are tame you will be better off with less damping and spacers.

    Fork 2019 Fox 36 grip2 44m Offset 160mm
    Comes with 1 spacer. Up to 3 tokens before switching to DSD Runt.

    Air Pressure(L/H)________66/120psi
    Volume Spacers_____DSD Runt
    Sag_______________18% Dynamic
    LSR_______________11
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________11
    HSC_______________16


    2018 X2's have an 11mm shorter air can. I believe that both the positive and negative chambers are smaller. This is backed up by the CR differences.
    Smaller negative = less sag at same PSI
    Smaller positive = slightly less sag at same PSI

    The 2019 will need 1 more spacer for a similar CR and will need 10-25 psi more pressure for the same sag. This is a good thing as it offers more mid stroke support and better small bump compliance at the same time.

    Shock 2018 Fox X2 210x55mm Upper 25x8mm, Lower: 15x8mm
    Comes with 1 limiter and 2 spacers. Started testing with 4 spacers total.


    Air Pressure________199 psi
    Volume Spacers_____4
    Sag_______________33% Seated, Dynamic.
    LSR_______________9
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________17
    HSC_______________20


    CR = Compression Ratio

    2019 Fox 36 fork
    1 spacers = 2.5 CR
    2 spacers = 2.6 CR
    3 spacers = 2.8 CR


    2018 fox X2 shock
    2 spacers + limiter = 2.9 CR
    3 spacers = 3.1 CR
    4 spacers = 3.3 CR.  - Adjusted max pressure = 220

    Most of the pedaling was on a steep climbing approaches so dynamic sag measures on the low side for Fork and high side for the shock. Static, attack position sag about 25% for the shock.
    5-10% suspension reserve with aggressive riding on all but the biggest drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Hi SaintJV
    I would add 1-(190/200)=5% to my numbers on psi. Since you weigh more you will need more damping to handle the extra energy. 0-1 click more should do it, but this will depend on style and terrain.

    I'm still working on the settings so check back as plan on updating them every week for the next month or so.
    I tried your advices. Comparing the feelings against HD4. Seems to me that the bike is harder and goes easily to bottomout. Meaning to + compresion? ATm 4 tokens, 95 psi.

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    Just to clarify.
    You weigh 200lb, ride a fox 36 with 160mm of travel and have 95 psi in it with 4 spacers.

    Adding damping would be closing or making things slower.

    My fork settings are on the firm side. Mostly closed with lots of damping. Still deciding if it's too much.

    I'm at a loss how you could bottom out your fork with 4 tokens and 95psi. Mine wouldn't even get 1/2 travel.
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    Did X2 spacers come with your frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-wal View Post
    Did X2 spacers come with your frames?

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    No. 1 came installed and I picked up a kit with 3 spacers in it. I talked with Ibis, they don't have any.
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    Name: Adrian
    Frame size - XL
    Rider weight ready to ride - 205lb
    Rider style - Intermediate-aggro
    Terrain: Little bit of everything CA has to offer.

    Front Tire - Maxxis DHF 2.5 : 24-30psi
    Rear Tire - Maxxis DHR 2.4 : 26-30psi

    Fork YEAR MODEL: 2019 Fox 36 Grip2 / PUSH ACS3
    Green Spring 50lb/in
    15psi Bumpstop

    Air Pressure________NA psi
    Volume Spacers_____NA
    Sag_______________~30%
    LSR_______________7
    HSR_______________3
    LSC_______________ 8
    HSC_______________13


    Shock: YEAR 2018, MODEL Fox X2

    Air Pressure________ 200psi
    Volume Spacers_____ 2
    Sag_______________+28%
    LSR_______________18
    HSR_______________10
    LSC_______________18
    HSC_______________20

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraxFactory View Post
    Name: Adrian
    Frame size - XL
    Rider weight ready to ride - 205lb
    Rider style - Intermediate-aggro
    Terrain - hardpack-mulch, mild chunk, steep, tight turny, 2-3ft jumps to flat, drops

    Front Tire - TYPE : 24-28psi
    Rear Tire - TYPE : 26-30psi

    Fork YEAR MODEL: 2019 Fox 36 Grip2 / PUSH ACS3

    Air Pressure________NA psi
    Volume Spacers_____NA
    Sag_______________~30%
    LSR_______________
    HSR_______________
    LSC_______________
    HSC_______________


    Shock: YEAR, MODEL

    Air Pressure________ 200psi
    Volume Spacers_____ 2
    Sag_______________+30%
    LSR_______________18
    HSR_______________will upd
    LSC_______________17
    HSC_______________will upd

    Will be back to update some settings....finally got the X2 feeling pretty good, using almost all travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd View Post
    What springs in your fork?
    Green 50lb/in with 15psi Bumpstop

    I am mainly tweaking X2 Low Speed now as the fork feels pretty amazing. I want to firm it up just a bit so probably add a few psi next.

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    I've been mountain biking for over 20 years. Now that I'm approaching my mid 40s, I find myself looking more and more for something to smooth out the trail on long rides. So, which shock (X2 or DPX2) is more plush, better for bump absorption and smoothing out the trail? I'm between 190-200lbs geared up.

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    X2 is more plush

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    Quote Originally Posted by swade View Post
    I've been mountain biking for over 20 years. Now that I'm approaching my mid 40s, I find myself looking more and more for something to smooth out the trail on long rides. So, which shock (X2 or DPX2) is more plush, better for bump absorption and smoothing out the trail? I'm between 190-200lbs geared up.
    Well, depends on your riding style and types of trails. If by plush you mean best for drops and high speed chunder(4-10" round to square edge approaches to large roots and rocks) X2 all the way. For low speed tech rolls and holes(East Coast?) maybe DPX2. For generally buff trails to smooth out chatter(tire width sized loose or embedded) you can probably get similar small bump on either. I don't think either bottoms out harshly if set up correctly. I have much more time on X2 than DPX2 so most of this is speculation as to the potential contrast. For short answer see jacksonlui post above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Well, depends on your riding style and types of trails. If by plush you mean best for drops and high speed chunder(4-10" round to square edge approaches to large roots and rocks) X2 all the way. For low speed tech rolls and holes(East Coast?) maybe DPX2. For generally buff trails to smooth out chatter(tire width sized loose or embedded) you can probably get similar small bump on either. I don't think either bottoms out harshly if set up correctly. I have much more time on X2 than DPX2 so most of this is speculation as to the potential contrast. For short answer see jacksonlui post above.
    It sounds like the X2 is the slightly better choice for me. I want the suspension to be more active and the bike to do more of the work, bump absorption for me.

    Now that I'm getting older, and with kids now and less time to build and maintain my conditioning, some times I feel a little more beat up after intense rides. If better technology can help me alleviate that, I'm all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swade View Post
    It sounds like the X2 is the slightly better choice for me. I want the suspension to be more active and the bike to do more of the work, bump absorption for me.

    Now that I'm getting older, and with kids now and less time to build and maintain my conditioning, some times I feel a little more beat up after intense rides. If better technology can help me alleviate that, I'm all for it.
    X2 is great on the Ripmo. 2019 sounds even better with the air can, pressure limit and max spacer changes. Start with *spacers* and sag and the settings from this thread and you should be rolling.
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    2019 X2 is pretty amazing. The larger negative chamber lets you run more pressure at the same sag and gives a better spring curve. The only problem would be if you are under 135lb, as it would be hard to use all the travel.
    I can't compare to the DPX2, but can say that the X2 is very plush, composed and has amazing grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    2019 X2 is pretty amazing. The larger negative chamber lets you run more pressure at the same sag and gives a better spring curve. The only problem would be if you are under 135lb, as it would be hard to use all the travel.
    I can't compare to the DPX2, but can say that the X2 is very plush, composed and has amazing grip.
    Alex any update on settings? Im currently playing with both suspension and cant get any good results I tried your first settings and Im hitting the bottom of shox so easy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJV View Post
    Alex any update on settings? Im currently playing with both suspension and cant get any good results I tried your first settings and Im hitting the bottom of shox so easy..
    Unfortunately fires have blanked the bay area in hazardous smoke for weeks and now the rain has come and cleared out the smoke, but made the trails unridable.

    Dw link bike don't like a lot of compression and the stock setting that I posted match what others have shared.

    Is you shock the 2019 version?
    Do you have 3 spacers in it?

    I tune for bottom out first. Add pressure until you use 95% of your travel.
    Next check your sag. If you don't have enough, ADD a spacer and reduce PSI by 5. If you have too much sag, REMOVE a spacers and add 5psi
    You can do both these changes at the same time. Add a spacer and keep PSI the same will maintain sag and increase bottom out.

    Adding compression damping both high and low will exchange plushness for bottom out resistance. I find this setting to only marginally effect bottom out. A little goes a long way. Compression has almost no effect on G outs. They are a long enough event that it's mostly spring rate. Repeated Medium hits can push you deeper into the travel with to much rebound of not enough compression. This will cause harshness and make it easier to bottom out on the bigger hits after a bumpy section.

    long story short - add spacers or psi.

    Fork turning effects your shock and vise versa. If you soften you fork your shock will use less travel. Then you firm up your shock your fork will take more load and use more travel.

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    Atm I have 200 Psi and 4 spacers. Sag 17mm, both-shock and fork are 2019.Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread.  DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.-ripmomale.jpg

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    X2 gives more plushness but dpx2 is slightly lighter, easier to maintain, and provides a little more boost/pop for jumps. That is how i see it. I've got the dpx2 on the sb130 and x2 on the hd4. Nothing is for free, its just a game of compromises.

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    I'm having issues with getting my '18 X2 right. At the moment I've just about got it ok, but I've had to remove all of the compression damping.. (ShockWiz has confirmed my thoughts - actually wanting even less compression but I'm already fully open). Running 216psi with 3 spacers for 14mm sag (recommended).

    Any suggestions as right now I'm close to swapping out for a DPX2 Factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philstone View Post
    I'm having issues with getting my '18 X2 right. At the moment I've just about got it ok, but I've had to remove all of the compression damping.. (ShockWiz has confirmed my thoughts - actually wanting even less compression but I'm already fully open). Running 216psi with 3 spacers for 14mm sag (recommended).

    Any suggestions as right now I'm close to swapping out for a DPX2 Factory.
    Are you getting full travel? If it want less compression it most likely wants to see more travel. Lowing your PSI by a couple might fix it.

    What is your compression ratio? You can fudge this number by 0.1 if you are in-between and it will give you better results. A good trick to check CR is put 10-20 psi in the shock and reset baseline air pressure. Then sit on the shock with the app open and it should match the travel you are getting.
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    Sure. We need more info to give any specific advice though.
    Post your settings according to the framework set up by alexbn921, or just post the screen shot from the SW, and let us know what you're trying to improve. Include the fork as that may make a difference.
    A lot of times you have to read between the lines on the Shockwiz if you run out of an adjustment and can get the same result through other adjustments.
    Based on what you've posted so far I'm guessing you go through travel too easily but still feels harsh, too firm, on small bump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Based on what you've posted so far I'm guessing you go through travel too easily but still feels harsh, too firm, on small bump.
    Will fill in full details in a bit, but travel usage is about perfect - have to really hit a big flat to bottom out (which I usually do once a ride) but it still feels harsh. ShockWiz says that pressure and ramp are perfect. Score is 92, 100% confidence and perfect calibration status.
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    What type of terrain does it feel harsh on? Is is repeated medium hits, small chatter?
    Does anything feel like it's binding in the shock or suspension linkage?

    The more information you give the easier it is to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    What type of terrain does it feel harsh on? Is is repeated medium hits, small chatter?
    Does anything feel like it's binding in the shock or suspension linkage?

    The more information you give the easier it is to help.
    Yep - small chatter. Nope, all feels nice and smooth when air is removed and cycled. My previous bike was an Evil Insurgent which has a notoriously plush feeling so it could be that, but what my main concern is that I'm not able to remove anymore compression damping. On all of my previous bikes and shocks (and there's been a few including 2 CCDBA's) I've always managed to get the compression damping spot on with more adjustment available.
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    Fork is a 36 FiT4 with Luftkappe.



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    Looks pretty good, but there can be significant changes between 90 and 100 tuning score without changing detections out of the green. Also checking other tuning options (balanced or custom) can let you know if you're closer to one end or the other for each setting bracket(5-10%change). I may have missed it, but have you given your weight, riding style and trail type?
    20% sag is the biggest outlier I see from your previous post. There are definitely ways to get the same bottom out support with more sag. That would probably help the most with small bump/chatter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Looks pretty good, but there can be significant changes between 90 and 100 tuning score without changing detections out of the green. Also checking other tuning options (balanced or custom) can let you know if you're closer to one end or the other for each setting bracket(5-10%change). I may have missed it, but have you given your weight, riding style and trail type?
    20% sag is the biggest outlier I see from your previous post. There are definitely ways to get the same bottom out support with more sag. That would probably help the most with small bump/chatter.
    Riding weight is around 165lbs. Style is fairly aggressive, but our trails are fairly flat and more tech singletrack.

    I thought my sag was 25% (14/55 *100)?


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    Philstone, try adding a spacer and dropping psi by 5. I would also make HSC 1 click faster. This should improve your small bump performance and effectively lower your LSC damping.


    FYI HSC effects how long the LSC is active. If you have zero HSC then you have zero LSC.
    LSC adjustment sets the gradient under the HSC blow off curve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philstone View Post
    Riding weight is around 165lbs. Style is fairly aggressive, but our trails are fairly flat and more tech singletrack.

    I thought my sag was 25% (14/55 *100)?


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    Hmmm... Not sure where I got that number. I'm learning as much as helping here. Is 14mm seated or attack position? Curious what the SW reads for Dynamic sag?
    I do run more spacers and sag, with lower pressure, at #190 RTR, than you so it might be worth trying less pressure. If it helps and you don't get harsh bottom out, great. If you need more support, there's still room for another spacer in the '18 at the pressures you're running. I also run the compression low on the X2 and have wondered if lighter riders might run out of adjustment.
    I run the Vorsprung Settings (sort of) for rebound, with HSC almost closed then LSC to adjust overall. Be interesting to see if the '19 Dynos any different for damping.
    Also curious about what pressure you're running with the 36 and Luftkappe?
    Sorry for all the questions. You obviously have a pretty good feel for tuning, maybe it would be best if you just get the DPX2 and let us know how they compare.
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    Iím going to play with my psi this week, Iíve recently moved from running a camelbak to bike mounted tools/water so my weight has changed a bit. Sag is measured in attack position.

    I probably will go with the DPX2 as itís been recommended to me by a few tuners as well.


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    Will be great to hear what you think if you try another shock.
    My tuner says the same. The X2 hits the sweet spot for me but custom tuning is easier with the DPX2 - shims vs poppets. Good luck!

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    Anyone try sending their DPX2 to Avalanche? I've seen some people talk about it in the other Ripmo thread, but nobody reporting back. I ordered a 19' X2 and it should be here in a few days. Thinking of sending the DPX2 to Avalanche. Also, does anyone see a need to send in their X2 to Avalanche?

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    I just picked up my Ripmo and have done 3 rides - unbelievable bike !!!!! I have a question about suspension movement while pedaling. Iím 5í11,218lbs and got the size large with the DPX2 shock (set at 300psi -14 mm of sag). While pedaling I get a fair amount of movement at the shock. It doesnít feel like pedal bob or Iím being robbed of energy. Is this normal? Any insight would be great.

    My last bike was a Niner RIP 9 and there was no real movement but the ride was harsh.

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    Anybody ever just run the one spacer that comes stock in the X2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlemd View Post
    I just picked up my Ripmo and have done 3 rides - unbelievable bike !!!!! I have a question about suspension movement while pedaling. Iím 5í11,218lbs and got the size large with the DPX2 shock (set at 300psi -14 mm of sag). While pedaling I get a fair amount of movement at the shock. It doesnít feel like pedal bob or Iím being robbed of energy. Is this normal? Any insight would be great.

    My last bike was a Niner RIP 9 and there was no real movement but the ride was harsh.

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    You are going to get some movement. A smooth pedal stroke will get very little. The ripmo has over 100% anti-squat, so powerful down strokes will extend the rear suspension and lift you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qtip2 View Post
    Anybody ever just run the one spacer that comes stock in the X2?
    Unless you are 120lb or ride completely smooth trails you will need more spacers. The rear suspension leverage ratio designed around a medium sized air volume. The x2 has a larger volume. The 2019 has an even bigger air can, but is balanced by a larger negative camber. It's a big difference that can be felt with better mid stroke support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Unless you are 120lb or ride completely smooth trails you will need more spacers. The rear suspension leverage ratio designed around a medium sized air volume. The x2 has a larger volume. The 2019 has an even bigger air can, but is balanced by a larger negative camber. It's a big difference that can be felt with better mid stroke support.
    Thanks learned the hard way tonight. Iím 190 and just got the shock today and didnít order a spacer kit yet. I set everything else off your tune above. It felt good just blew through the travel way too fast. Ordering spacer kit now. If no one buys the DPX2 I will send off to Avy and compare the two.

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    Updated my rear shock settings.
    I also installed a vorsprung luftkappe in my fork. Took out 2 token and just removed the last one today. Will give full update on the fork in a couple weeks. So far it's a big improvement and I highly recommend it.
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    While my Fox RC2 with ACS3 coil spring is down for repairs, I threw my wife's GRIP2 on my bike and went for a ride. Pretty impressive. I thought the RC2 and GRIP2 had the same air spring, but her fork actually compressed when hitting small bumps. Seems like a lot less stiction. Whatever is going on, I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Updated my rear shock settings.
    I also installed a vorsprung luftkappe in my fork. Took out 2 token and just removed the last one today. Will give full update on the fork in a couple weeks. So far it's a big improvement and I highly recommend it.
    Akex regarding your sag, can you also add exact measuring in milimeters, I know you uset math calculations but...

    And pls do so on both objects(Shock and fork pls)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJV View Post
    Akex regarding your sag, can you also add exact measuring in milimeters, I know you uset math calculations but...

    And pls do so on both objects(Shock and fork pls)
    Hi SaintJV
    My sag is 14-15mm.
    If your set at 16.5 that's 30%. That's on the upper limit and should be plush. The Ripmo has a low BB so I like to run closer to 25% for the extra clearance.

    My settings listed in the first post are my current settings. Constantly getting 96-100% with shockwiz and using 93-100% of my travel.
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    When tuning the rear shock with Shockwiz it has constantly asked me to reduce LSC. Others have reported the same thing. The Ripmo seems to like a very light compression tune. It could also be that because of the over 100% anti-squat the Shockwiz gets confused. It's excepting bob and it never sees it so it keeps trying to reduce LSC. I haven't noticed any ill effects from running it almost wide open.
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    I also like to run the ShockWiz through the different tuning styles with the same data and see how that changes the suggestions. That can give some insight into the assumptions the App is making and show if there might be other tradeoffs that would work to achieve the optimum tune.
    Damper or air spring tuning can sometimes be interchangeable when only small changes need to be made.
    Lower LSC might be achieved (as sensed by the App) by changing sag or adding a spacer and lowering pressure for similar sag. Small changes can help without messing up the rest of the tune.
    If I'm happy with the ride I don't worry about perfect SW numbers but, if I need to fix something, it can usually help zero in on what may help.
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    Anyone thats ~190lbs and running the DPX2/FIT combo care to share their settings/tips? Just looking for a baseline to start off with.

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    I am a total newb at suspension tuning and I see everyone changing spacers in their shocks.

    I get why.

    But then every one says two spacers or three spacers etc.

    When I look at the spacer kit for the DPX2 you get differ spacer sizes and all the videos I've found just show swapping sizes, not stacking.

    What am I missing?




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    DPX2 has separate single spacers of different volume for tuning. X2 uses multiple spacers of the same size, with or without a limiter, for tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    DPX2 has separate single spacers of different volume for tuning. X2 uses multiple spacers of the same size, with or without a limiter, for tuning.
    Thank you.

    What size is stock? Any guidance for a 195-200 pound intermediate rider?

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    Go to fox and type in the 4 digit code on the shock. It will give you the spacer size and tune.
    https://www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike
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    Demo'd a XL Ripmo this past Saturday and I was blown away. Felt playful, soaked up all the rocks and ruts. Bike looks big but doesn't feel big while riding. Also, the bike doesn't feel like a 29er. I could easily blow through all the travel just by going off the curb BUT out of the trail it actually felt good. I did bottom out but never felt it on the trail.

    Going back to demo the HD4. I already have a full suspension xc bike so I think I'm going to be favoring the HD4. I want something that can really tackle bigger terrain while still having great pedalling.

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    More stupid newb questions.

    Looking at the DPX2 code at Fox I should have a .4 spacer. Looking at this table how much bigger can I go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd View Post
    More stupid newb questions.

    Looking at the DPX2 code at Fox I should have a .4 spacer. Looking at this table how much bigger can I go?
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    .6 is the max you can install. At .4 a 3.28 compression ratio is already pretty high. Unless you like lots of sag or are bottoming out you should be good.
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    Updated my X2 rear shock settings. Not much change other than PSI. Shock wiz still occasionally calls for less LSC, but I'm 1 click from full open and like the feel.

    Measured the CR of the fork with the vorsprung luftkappe and it was very close to having just 1 spacer installed. Leaves 4-5mm of top out travel unused and seems to have much better bottom out resistance with similar sag. Will update the fork as soon as my trails dry out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    .6 is the max you can install. At .4 a 3.28 compression ratio is already pretty high. Unless you like lots of sag or are bottoming out you should be good.
    I am not bottoming out but getting close.

    I am around 200 pounds and was thinking the .6 could give me more ramp at the same psi as I enjoy the feel otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd View Post
    I am not bottoming out but getting close.

    I am around 200 pounds and was thinking the .6 could give me more ramp at the same psi as I enjoy the feel otherwise.

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    Just received my shockwiz and stoked to get some miles in. Im close to your weight and still not totally happy with my X2 setup...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraxFactory View Post
    Just received my shockwiz and stoked to get some miles in. Im close to your weight and still not totally happy with my X2 setup...

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    I have the DPX2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbd View Post
    I am not bottoming out but getting close.

    I am around 200 pounds and was thinking the .6 could give me more ramp at the same psi as I enjoy the feel otherwise.

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    The spacers are easy to swap out and will give you more bottom out resistance. Looking forward to hearing how you like it. Post up your setting too. I sure others could benefit from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TraxFactory View Post
    Just received my shockwiz and stoked to get some miles in. Im close to your weight and still not totally happy with my X2 setup...

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    What don't you like about it? Shockwiz is a fun little toy. Measure CR 2 or 3 times to make sure it's consistent and then set a baseline psi of 10 so you can sit on the bike and verify that 100% travel = what the wiz sees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    What don't you like about it?
    Feels a bit soft and not as poppy as I'm used too (evil following stock tune)

    Thanks for the tips, definitely looking for that.

    Are you able to let all air out thru SW? I could only do a few psi at a time, let it build pressure then let more out. I ended up releasing all air directly from can.



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    You should be able to let all the air threw the wiz at the same rate as normal. if you can't then the wiz is not full seated and will not register the pressure changes in the main chamber.
    You have a lot more LSR then I run. Faster rebound will make the bike poppy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    You should be able to let all the air threw the wiz at the same rate as normal. if you can't then the wiz is not full seated and will not register the pressure changes in the main chamber.
    Hmmm, something's up then as it is definitely as tight as she can go..



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    Question on 2018 X2 volume spacers. Seems like some folks are using more than 2 spacers, but foxís page says only 2 allowed for 55mm stroke 2018 x2. Is it ok to use more than 2 volume spacers? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpenglow View Post
    Question on 2018 X2 volume spacers. Seems like some folks are using more than 2 spacers, but foxís page says only 2 allowed for 55mm stroke 2018 x2. Is it ok to use more than 2 volume spacers? Thanks.
    Fox says 2 max, but that is if you're using 250 psi. The thought is if you're using less than 250 psi, then adding a spacer or two should be ok. I'm sure it's not Fox approved though.

    To add a third spacer requires pulling the factory spacer limiter out. It's just a half round of plastic held in by o-rings.

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    This guy explains it well

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    Anyone know how many spacers come with the 2019 from Ibis? Just built my 2019 Ripmo and took it for a spin today. Feels grippy and supple enough on normal trail riding but as soon as I hit drops (2-5 feet) the rear feels very harsh as if it stiffens up too fast.
    I am straight down the middle on the default X2 and 36 settings.

    Frame size - L
    Rider weight ready to ride - 168 lb
    Rider style - Aggressive PNW riding with 5 foot drops and 7 foot gaps
    Terrain - Loamy, wet, rocky, varied PNW terrain.

    Tires 1
    Ibis 942
    Front Tire - DHF 2.5 WT 3C________22psi
    Rear Tire - Aggressor 2.5 WT Dual__23psi


    Setup 1
    Fork 2019 Fox 36 grip2 44m Offset 160mm
    Air Pressure________75 psi
    Volume Spacers_____Haven't checked but stock
    Sag_______________28%
    LSR_______________6
    HSR_______________5
    LSC_______________6
    HSC_______________10

    Shock 2019 X2
    Air Pressure________205 psi
    Volume Spacers_____Haven't checked but stock (Fox says max is 4)
    Sag_______________25%
    LSR_______________14
    HSR_______________10
    LSC_______________14
    HSC_______________12

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    Both fork and shock come with 1 spacers.
    I would add 2 spacers to your shock and drop at least 20psi. Will make it much more plush.
    Same for the fork to balance it out. 1 spacers and 5ish less psi.
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    Ripmo Fox X2 and Grip2 tuning thread. DPX2 and Fit4 settings welcome too.

    If anyones interested, Iíve just fitted a DPS EVOL shock (donít need anything bigger for most of my riding here) and Iím really impressed. Seems to handle small bumps much better than my 18 X2 and ramps up better. Iím pretty sure now that Iíll be replacing my X2 for a DPX2 for my trips to the Alps.

    This is the one Iíve fitted:

    2019, FLOAT DPS, F-S, K, 3pos-Adj Evol LV, FOX, AM, 210, 55, 0.4 Spacer, LCM, LRM, CMF, Orange Logo.

    I asked Ibis about the tune and the response i got from their guy at Fox was:

    ďThis damper has a linear piston with medium compression/medium rebound/firm climb. LV eyelet + stock 0.4 cubic inch air volume spacer is also a good starting point for the Ripmo. If he wants more end-stroke spring ramp he could switch to a slightly larger 0.6cu in spacer. Thatís more of a fine tuning detail that depends on how he rides.Ē

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    Interesting, I figured they would prefer a low compression tune over medium. It is still surprising to me that Ibis doesn't over a Performance Elite or Factory DPX2 option so you could tune LSC.

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    My tuning and all the shared setting have been a very light compression tune. You almost need no compression to control bob as there isn't any.
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    Shows Fox versus Ibis recommended settings for GRIP2 and X2.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/IbisCycles/..._tuning_excel/

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    @alexbn921 if you take these settings from this table. what will be your bike to you like?


    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    Shows Fox versus Ibis recommended settings for GRIP2 and X2.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/IbisCycles/..._tuning_excel/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintJV View Post
    @alexbn921 if you take these settings from this table. what will be your bike to you like?
    I'm 190lb and did use the Ibis setting as a baseline setup. Bike felt very good/different with them vs my old bike(Tallboy 3). I did add volume spacers before my first ride as I tend to blow threw travel on all bikes. The stock settings are a good place to start and Ibis did put some thought into them. Pressures front to rear and overall damper setting will be effected by body position and bike size.

    My current settings are so good for my style and terrain that it's almost unbelievable how much speed I can carry. I've also gotten used to the bike and added a 2.6 DHF on the front. It's a much more supple and high volume tire than the 2.5 with a small reduction in toughness.
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    Iím about 185 geared up. Just got a large Ripmo with Ď19 X2 and Grip2 fork. Came from an XL Ripley that had a DPX2 on it as well as a Factory Fit4 fork. Obviously I didnít have that many tuning options and I originally ordered the DPX2 shock with performance fork but I got the fork upgrade for free (Ibis was out of Performance forks and they came through so I upgraded to X2 shock for $200). I figured why not on shock as Iím pretty sure this will be my only bike for a while.

    After reading all the tuning posts and looking at Ibis recommendations (and Fox and Pivotís for the fork) and others it became quite apparent that Iím a bit overwhelmed re fork/shock tuning. And it just snowed about a foot so itís been tough to tune without any trail riding. On PSI, Iím at 200 for shock and about 58 for fork (much lower than recommended) and used Ibisí rebound and compression settings. Feels pretty good but wonít know until I ride. All I know for sure is that the recommended fork psi settings was way too high for me. I know there may be a break in period for fork but if anyone has any suggestions Iím all ears as the multiple tuning options are new for me. Iím a better climber than descender and I donít jump that much (Iím getting older) but find myself riding faster and more aggressively each of the last few years. And definitely much faster uphill. My riding conditions are mixed (ride primarily in Reno/Tahoe area). Bike feels great so far though. Canít wait for snow to melt.

    Again, any suggestions are welcome.

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    Potential stupid question, but does it matter where on the shock you add the spacers? My '19 X2 came pre-installed with 1, and it was on the rear (back tire) end of the airshaft. I can't access that one spacer - the can won't slide far enough back while still on the frame to remove it, I'd have to take the rear shock mount out which I didn't feel like doing. I noticed in the X2 volume spacers video on the Fox website they start adding spacers at the other end of the air can, the front tire end of the bike.

    Basically, looking at the bike from the side with the front tire on the right, I have 3 spacers in the 3 left side slots of the shock and an empty slot far right, whereas in the Fox video when they have 3 they have the empty slot on the left (rear end) of the bike. Does the placement matter, should I pull the rear shock mount and align everything on the right?

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    Spacers can go anywhere. You can slide the can far enough to access all spacers with it still attached to the frame. It's just a little hard to get the top seal over the bottom o ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Spacers can go anywhere. You can slide the can far enough to access all spacers with it still attached to the frame. It's just a little hard to get the top seal over the bottom o ring.
    Awesome, thanks - was hoping as much. Didn't want to force the can that far back, it seemed to have hit its limit but good to know it can come all the way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgnreno View Post
    Iím about 185 geared up. Just got a large Ripmo with Ď19 X2 and Grip2 fork. Came from an XL Ripley that had a DPX2 on it as well as a Factory Fit4 fork. Obviously I didnít have that many tuning options and I originally ordered the DPX2 shock with performance fork but I got the fork upgrade for free (Ibis was out of Performance forks and they came through so I upgraded to X2 shock for $200). I figured why not on shock as Iím pretty sure this will be my only bike for a while.

    After reading all the tuning posts and looking at Ibis recommendations (and Fox and Pivotís for the fork) and others it became quite apparent that Iím a bit overwhelmed re fork/shock tuning. And it just snowed about a foot so itís been tough to tune without any trail riding. On PSI, Iím at 200 for shock and about 58 for fork (much lower than recommended) and used Ibisí rebound and compression settings. Feels pretty good but wonít know until I ride. All I know for sure is that the recommended fork psi settings was way too high for me. I know there may be a break in period for fork but if anyone has any suggestions Iím all ears as the multiple tuning options are new for me. Iím a better climber than descender and I donít jump that much (Iím getting older) but find myself riding faster and more aggressively each of the last few years. And definitely much faster uphill. My riding conditions are mixed (ride primarily in Reno/Tahoe area). Bike feels great so far though. Canít wait for snow to melt.

    Again, any suggestions are welcome.
    Congratulations on getting a Ripmo. Since you and I weight the same, but you are not quite as aggressive a rider as I am I would start with the same damper setting as I'm running.
    The only change would be 2 spacers in the fork and 3 spacers in the shock. This will give you more sag, comfort and keep you from bottoming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Congratulations on getting a Ripmo. Since you and I weight the same, but you are not quite as aggressive a rider as I am I would start with the same damper setting as I'm running.
    The only change would be 2 spacers in the fork and 3 spacers in the shock. This will give you more sag, comfort and keep you from bottoming out.
    Thanks for the tips. I'll try that. I'm admittedly a newbie and when it comes to tuning (I probably shouldn't have gotten the fork and shock upgrades but this is my post-divorce present to myself so I went for it) and am a bit frustrated given all the info and some of it conflicting from Ibis and Fox. I'll go to LBS and order some spacers and make change my settings to your settings. I'm was half tempted to switch to DPX2 but I am pretty confident that it will just take some time and patience and riding to dial it in. I'm not too concerned about the bottoming out aspect, although I won't know for sure until it happens. 90% of my riding is "trail" and everything I ride is up and down here in Reno/Tahoe. I just wanted some more cush for my tush given that I'm getting older. That is why I built my Ripmo up pretty light as I'm coming from a Ripley LS v3 frame with a factory DPX2 shock on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgnreno View Post
    Iím about 185 geared up. Just got a large Ripmo with Ď19 X2 and Grip2 fork. Came from an XL Ripley that had a DPX2 on it as well as a Factory Fit4 fork. Obviously I didnít have that many tuning options and I originally ordered the DPX2 shock with performance fork but I got the fork upgrade for free (Ibis was out of Performance forks and they came through so I upgraded to X2 shock for $200). I figured why not on shock as Iím pretty sure this will be my only bike for a while.

    After reading all the tuning posts and looking at Ibis recommendations (and Fox and Pivotís for the fork) and others it became quite apparent that Iím a bit overwhelmed re fork/shock tuning. And it just snowed about a foot so itís been tough to tune without any trail riding. On PSI, Iím at 200 for shock and about 58 for fork (much lower than recommended) and used Ibisí rebound and compression settings. Feels pretty good but wonít know until I ride. All I know for sure is that the recommended fork psi settings was way too high for me. I know there may be a break in period for fork but if anyone has any suggestions Iím all ears as the multiple tuning options are new for me. Iím a better climber than descender and I donít jump that much (Iím getting older) but find myself riding faster and more aggressively each of the last few years. And definitely much faster uphill. My riding conditions are mixed (ride primarily in Reno/Tahoe area). Bike feels great so far though. Canít wait for snow to melt.

    Again, any suggestions are welcome.
    Hey. I think you are very close in the ball park for where you want to be. I'm only a few lbs lighter then you on a large Rip with a 2018 x2. and 19 Grip2 fork. 200 in the shock and 58psi in the fork after several months of experimenting. I do hit jumps, although smaller ones and ride pretty rocky, rowdy trails and don't have bottom out issues. Running 1 spacer in the fork, which doesn't like to give-up full travel. Also using very minimal HSC. 2 out from full open both ends. My advice is to start riding with your settings and adjust from there.

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    I am finally getting around to adding my details after riding my Ripmo for 6 months. I'll be posting my setup for the 2018 and 2019 X2.

    One question - is closed (for the sake of this string) fastest or slowest, least or most damping?

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    Name: Bike Dr D
    Frame size - Medium
    Rider weight ready to ride - 175 lb
    Rider style - Aggressive
    Terrain - Rocky loose dry trails and bike parks. I enjoy big jumps, drops, and challenging tech.

    Front Tire - Minion 2.5: 17 psi
    Rear Tire - Minion 2.5 : 19 psi

    Fork Grip2 36 2019

    Air Pressure 65 psi
    Volume None - Luftkappe
    Sag 20%
    LSR 6
    HSR 5
    LSC 10
    HSC 25


    Shock: 2018 X2

    Air Pressure 185 psi
    Volume Spacers 3
    Sag 25%
    LSR 16
    HSR 12
    LSC 14
    HSC 10

    Comments: I enjoy this set up alot and it does not appear to slow me. I do regularly bottom the X2 - however I NEVER notice.

    Just got a 2019 X2 but am still dialing it.
    Last edited by bikedrd; 01-25-2019 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikedrd View Post
    I am finally getting around to adding my details after riding my Ripmo for 6 months. I'll be posting my setup for the 2018 and 2019 X2.

    One question - is closed (for the sake of this string) fastest or slowest, least or most damping?
    Closed is slow full clockwise. Open or fast is different from shock to shock, but closed is consistent. If you could count the clicks from closed it would help keep all of the setting consistent.
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    When ppl count clicks from closed meaning the knob fully clockwise. Is that starting position considered click #0 or click #1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    Closed is slow full clockwise. Open or fast is different from shock to shock, but closed is consistent. If you could count the clicks from closed it would help keep all of the setting consistent.
    Thanks. I'll recount from full-CW and adjust my post.

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