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    Ripmo AF Thread

    These are showing up at dealers this week. I think this is a great idea to get a quality bike at a lower price point.

    • 29Ē Wheels
    • 160mm front travel
    • 147mm dw-link rear travel
    • 2.6Ē tire clearance
    • Aluminum front and rear triangle
    • Available in four sizes S-XL, fits riders between 5í and 6í6
    • Frame weight of 8.25lbs for a medium with a DVO topaz shock
    • Available with DVO JADE X coil shock


    • Progressive suspension leverage ratio for compatibility with select coil shocks.
    • Slack 64.9 head angle
    • 44mm Fork Offset
    • Steep 76 degree seat tube angle
    • Threaded BB (73mm BSA)
    • ISCG 05 Compatible with removable adapter
    • Port style Internal cable routing
    • 22oz bottles fit inside front triangle
    • Size M-XL compatible with 170mm+ droppers, 125-150mm for smalls
    • Molded rubber swing arm protectors
    • IGUS bushings in lower link, bearings in upper link
    • Metric 210x55 shock
    • 203mm max rotor size
    • 1x specific design
    • Boost spacing
    • Tapered headtube and steerer: ZS44 upper, ZS56 lower








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    Ibis posted this last night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorangutan View Post
    Ibis posted this last night.

    Selling a lower cost metal Ripmo is a great idea. Nice work Ibis.

    Hopefully that rider can save enough $$ with the lower price point to buy himself some elbow and knee pads.
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    Wow

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    This is an absolutely fantastic move by IBIS. A fantastic bike at an affordable price. Just brilliant.
    It is the Right of the People to Alter or to Abolish It.

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    impressive, apparently the frame with shock(not sure which one) is 8.25...That's damn good.

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    mmm. Orange is good.

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    Can someone give me an idea of what a complete bike might weigh with an 8.25lb AL frame? Not a lot of manufacturers give out frame weights for AL bikes, so I'm not sure what to compare it to. Are we Talking 34+lbs like the new Hightower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annadel Adam View Post
    Can someone give me an idea of what a complete bike might weigh with an 8.25lb AL frame? Not a lot of manufacturers give out frame weights for AL bikes, so I'm not sure what to compare it to. Are we Talking 34+lbs like the new Hightower?
    2 lbs more than the carbon ripmo. my x01 with carbon wheels was 29.4lbs.

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    https://reviews.mtbr.com/ibis-ripmo-...w-price-weight

    31.25 lbs GX/air shock build with carbon wheels, not sure which size. So like 31.75 with stock aluminum wheels.

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    I believe there's a pic. on Pinkbike showing the SLX and GX builds at 31.8.

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    I think Ibis nailed it with this one. Quality coil - frame for $1899? Hats off.
    Working to stomp out redundancy, I repeat, working to stomp out redundancy.

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    Carbon Ripmo frame is 6lb. People in the Ripmo build thread claim weights ranging from 28-31lbs for their carbon Ripmos, so figure 30-33 for the Ripmo AF.

    (My Ripmo GX with carbon 942 wheels and pedals is 29.5lbs FWIW).

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    Soon if I am reading it correctly the coil compatibility is from a slightly different rear end lay out correct? So not possible to buy a new linage and make carbon Rip's coil compatible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by groundskeeperwilly View Post
    Soon if I am reading it correctly the coil compatibility is from a slightly different rear end lay out correct? So not possible to buy a new linage and make carbon Rip's coil compatible?
    I was wondering this too. Must have lowered the front shock mount slightly to get the increased progression and maybe tweaked the rear.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokee300 View Post
    I believe there's a pic. on Pinkbike showing the SLX and GX builds at 31.8.
    The 31.8 is the stem mount diameter for the handlebar...

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    I'm glad that Ibis recognizes the fact that not everyone is a dentist.
    The orange slx build is legit !
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    I like the looks of this model better than the standard ripmo, especially the orange. The weights and price of the GX build sounds pretty impressive too. The mtbr review makes it sound like its a worse all-arounder with less sensitive suspension than the carbon ripmo, but its still pretty cool. I guess I like that they slackened it and made the suspension a bit more progressive which were changes people wished for in the standard carbon ripmo, so ibis listened to customers and made it better than the carbon ripmo in some ways.

    Its a bit too enduro for my riding but I like it, I believe these things will be pretty popular.

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    Man, I literally just sold my HT2 to come back to a Ripmo, which I bought last week. Not saying I would have waited, but the better head angle, excellent builds for the price and -- most importantly -- coil compatibility definitely pique my interest.

    Curious if there's a way to tweak the plastic version to take a coil.
    Just like a raindrop, I was born to fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant View Post
    Curious if there's a way to tweak the plastic version to take a coil.
    Expensive, but MRP makes progressive springs for that sort of application. A Works Component headset should work [didn't check all the specs, but they make many models] for slacking out the other end.

    https://mrpbike.com/products/enduro-...e-coil-springs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant View Post
    Man, I literally just sold my HT2 to come back to a Ripmo, which I bought last week. Not saying I would have waited, but the better head angle, excellent builds for the price and -- most importantly -- coil compatibility definitely pique my interest.

    Curious if there's a way to tweak the plastic version to take a coil.
    It depends on why you sold the HT2 to go back to the ripmo though, the HT2 is longer and slacker than the ripmo while the ripmo af is longer and slacker than the HT2. So if you went for the ripmo because its smaller/ more agile then the ripmo af is actually a worse choice for you than the HT2 was.

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    Yeah, I ran Works on my last Ripmo. I've understood that the MRP coils still aren't progressive enough for the Ripmo, but haven't really followed that line of argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant View Post
    I've understood that the MRP coils still aren't progressive enough for the Ripmo, but haven't really followed that line of argument.
    That may be true. I have no specific Ripmo info. It just seemed like it would be a workable option. MRP has been pretty responsive to questions for me. If that's something that seriously interests you I'm sure they give you an idea of whether it was likely to work.
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    This is awesome! Just purchased a -1 works angleset for my ripmo lol and have been curious about running a coil. I'll be demoing one of these for sure, might end up replacing my carbon frame with this.

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    Carbon is neat but Iím a sucker for a well made metal beauty!

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    Ext storia will work on a ripmo with a customized shim stack coupled with the hydraulic bottom out control you just have to pay the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertwheeler View Post
    Carbon is neat but Iím a sucker for a well made metal beauty!
    me too, the raw aluminum looks great

    Quote Originally Posted by alsoran View Post
    Ext storia will work on a ripmo with a customized shim stack coupled with the hydraulic bottom out control you just have to pay the money.
    true but that's probably another $1k, one could probably break even selling a carbon frame and buying an aluminum

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    Way to go Ibis. This bike will be a killer!

    ...I only wish for the Ripley AF...oh when....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti0200 View Post
    me too, the raw aluminum looks great



    true but that's probably another $1k, one could probably break even selling a carbon frame and buying an aluminum
    And then end up selling the aluminum version when the revised carbon version comes out in the spring. And the cycle continues.


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    Where are they building these? Are they going to be sourced from vietnam?

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    Who has experience with the DVO suspension? I feel like the NX build is the killer deal with the same suspension as the SLX or GX build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Who has experience with the DVO suspension? I feel like the NX build is the killer deal with the same suspension as the SLX or GX build.
    Same thoughts I'm having... First time I've pondered a new bike in awhile.

    I know a buddy that just raves about the DVO Topaz. Bladder, super adjustable, serviceable at home. Overall they seem to have a good reputation, but I'd love to hear how a Diamond stacks up to a 36 or a Lyric.

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    Interesting that the NX and GX have 32T rings but the SLX is 30T,

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    Saw this getting built up, welds look good, great price point, I think ibis will sell a bunch of these


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    Where's it made ?
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    Taiwan ROC (there is a sticker on the seat tube above the top pivot point)

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    I have a Hightower on order but this has me thinking. I wanted alloy to begin with but there were no options I liked. This though... What would "more progressive" ride like compared to the carbon ripmo? Would it just firm up faster through its stroke? The ripmos I demo'd were already what I'd call somewhat firm and not as plush or supple as some others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    I have a Hightower on order but this has me thinking. I wanted alloy to begin with but there were no options I liked. This though... What would "more progressive" ride like compared to the carbon ripmo? Would it just firm up faster through its stroke? The ripmos I demo'd were already what I'd call somewhat firm and not as plush or supple as some others.
    The front tire sticks out further forward. One reviewer said the bike doesnít navigate tight switchbacks as well as the CF Ripmo, but descends with even more confidence. Climbing is just as good. Ripmo AF might be a better choice for a downhill focused rider. He also mentioned that the increased reach was noticeable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Who has experience with the DVO suspension? I feel like the NX build is the killer deal with the same suspension as the SLX or GX build.
    I do, though not on an Ibis. I bought a (first gen) Topaz for my Bronson V1 to replace the stock Fox Float CTD which I never really liked. The Topaz has been great. It improved the rear suspension feel tremendously and has been very reliable over the last few years.

    I haven't had to use it, but their customer service is also great. Lots of reports in the suspension threads from guys who emailed them and they helped them set up their shocks for their bikes/weights/trails/riding styles over email or the phone. I was actually pleased to see all these builds with DVO suspension as I suspect that they'll be popular and I've very much liked DVO as a company so far, both in product quality and service. I'm glad they'll be doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heist30 View Post
    The 31.8 is the stem mount diameter for the handlebar...
    Im a dope.... My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Who has experience with the DVO suspension? I feel like the NX build is the killer deal with the same suspension as the SLX or GX build.
    I've had a sapphire and diamond, as well as a topaz rear. They make fantastic suspension.

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    I have a Sapphire on my Ripley V4...and a Diamond and Topaz on a Canfield Riot. I really enjoy the adjustability (I really like the OTT feature), reliability, and feel of DVO suspension. I have nothing against Fox suspension, but I have a strong preference for DVO suspension components.

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    Thanks for the responses regarding the DVO suspension. I'm still torn bewtween the SC Hightower, Ripmo and Ripmo AF. Obviously the Ripmo AF saves me ~$1200 vs a similar build Ripmo and Hightower C.

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    Longer reach than the same sized ripmo but a slacker HT? My head is hurting.... how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDUBku View Post
    Longer reach than the same sized ripmo but a slacker HT? My head is hurting.... how?
    Stretch out the frame. You can make a Bike A longer than Bike B and still call both "mediums" within their respective line ups.
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    34 lbs 12 oz with pedals, weighted at the shop today. NX Medium

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    What does the carbon NX weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokee300 View Post
    Im a dope.... My bad.
    I just took it that you rounded up from the previously quoted 31.75. Hah! 😎
    Kinda liking this move from Ibis. Could be an economical alternative to get a longer travel bike and span the gap from my V1 Ripley.😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by oghunt View Post
    34 lbs 12 oz with pedals, weighted at the shop today. NX Medium
    But....what pedals is the question. 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    I just took it that you rounded up from the previously quoted 31.75. Hah! 😎
    Kinda liking this move from Ibis. Could be an economical alternative to get a longer travel bike and span the gap from my V1 Ripley.😎
    Same...Ripmo wasn't enough of a jump for me to spend the money to change out my RipleyLS. If they make a carbon version with this Geo or a HD5 29r I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    But....what pedals is the question. 😁
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    What does the carbon NX weigh?
    Don't have any NX carbon builds in at the moment but will say my XO1 with i9 carbon hoops weighs over 33 lbs with pedals(mallets), cage, and tube ... running WTB Verdict up front and Vigilante(tough casing) out back. Ridiculously heavy tires for bike park season. Normally weighs just over 31 lbs

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    Strangely the reach on the Ripmo AF only seems to be appreciably longer on the Medium (+12mm). Size Small has the same reach and L/XL are barely longer (+4mm and +2mm, respectively).

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    Quote Originally Posted by oghunt View Post
    34 lbs 12 oz with pedals, weighted at the shop today. NX Medium
    Almost 35Lbs seems pretty heavy.. I'm coming from an AL Specialized hardtail thats 28Lbs though. Does the peddling efficiency on these modern bikes negate the weight penalty that newer bikes seem to have? Mostly fire road climbs over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Thanks for the responses regarding the DVO suspension. I'm still torn bewtween the SC Hightower, Ripmo and Ripmo AF. Obviously the Ripmo AF saves me ~$1200 vs a similar build Ripmo and Hightower C.
    Well, HT2 and Ripmo AF now have almost the same wheelbase and head tube angle. Reviews have said the HT2 was a bit more stable than the carbon Ripmo so my guess is the Ripmo AF will now be about the same as the HT2. GX builds are $900 difference between the HT2 and AF.

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    What pricing are you looking at with $800 difference.

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    HT2 Carbon S (gx kit) is $5199 and Ripmo AF GX is $4299. $900 difference. Both prices off their own websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annadel Adam View Post
    Almost 35Lbs seems pretty heavy.. I'm coming from an AL Specialized hardtail thats 28Lbs though. Does the peddling efficiency on these modern bikes negate the weight penalty that newer bikes seem to have? Mostly fire road climbs over here.
    NX cassette is a boat anchor , I'm sure the cranks aren't far behind.
    Wheels are probably pretty hefty also. Assegai tires , it all adds up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    HT2 Carbon S (gx kit) is $5199 and Ripmo AF GX is $4299. $900 difference. Both prices off their own websites.
    Why are you not comparing aluminum to aluminum? SC HT aluminum S (GX) is $4299 and a direct comparison to the Ripmo AF GX build.

    Turns out the Ripmo AF aluminum is pretty much the same weight as the HT aluminum. First reviews seemed to suggest the Ripmo AF was a couple pounds lighter but people have weighed and posted weights that match the HT aluminum bikes. I was about to buy a Carbon R build (NX) HT and thought the Ripmo AF NX for 2999 was the same weight. Thus I would save about $1300, but then real weight numbers showed up.

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    If you're in the mood to commit to metal, this 2020 Commencal, looks like a very good value. https://www.commencalusa.com/meta-tr...ce-c2x29149178 I know it doesn't have super sophisticated linkage but......

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    anybody purchase one yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Why are you not comparing aluminum to aluminum? SC HT aluminum S (GX) is $4299 and a direct comparison to the Ripmo AF GX build.

    Turns out the Ripmo AF aluminum is pretty much the same weight as the HT aluminum. First reviews seemed to suggest the Ripmo AF was a couple pounds lighter but people have weighed and posted weights that match the HT aluminum bikes. I was about to buy a Carbon R build (NX) HT and thought the Ripmo AF NX for 2999 was the same weight. Thus I would save about $1300, but then real weight numbers showed up.
    I was comparing those because like you, I originally thought they were about the same weight but now it sounds like they aren't. I have a HT2 C S on order which should be here this week. If the Ripmo AF SLX or GX is about the same weight, I'd be interested and willing to take a gamble on the DVO stuff, since I haven't ridden it before. If the Ripmo AF SLX or GX is 2 lbs heavier than the HT2 C S, then I'll stick with the HT2 C S since I know and like the Lyrik/SD, GX and codes.

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    Assegai EXO+ adds 300-400g compared to Minions EXO. This is a gravity focused bike. But you easily drop 1lb or even 2lbs with tires (Rekon EXO, Bontrager XR3)

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    My buddy picked his up last night. Hitting Moab in two weeks.

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    My custom build came in at 32 lbs fully loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    My custom build came in at 32 lbs fully loaded.

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    Nice build. Is that with pedals? Specs? Any ride impressions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awr94903 View Post
    Nice build. Is that with pedals? Specs? Any ride impressions?
    Yes that's with pedals. Taking it out for a setup ride this evening.

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    This is the bike I have been waiting for...Aluminum from a reputable comapny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    This is the bike I have been waiting for...Aluminum from a reputable comapny.
    And selling the frame only at a reasonable price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    Yes that's with pedals. Taking it out for a setup ride this evening.
    Wow. Full AXS build.

    These Ripmo AF's ain't gonna be light
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Just ordered two of these for my wife and I. Stoked beyond stoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    Wow. Full AXS build.

    These Ripmo AF's ain't gonna be light
    They are going to be about 2 lbs more than a carbon version.

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    Sorry, sounds like I was mis understood.

    Surprised his full AXS build isn't lighter

    However, life is too short to obsess over frame weight
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    is the frame painted silver or is it raw aluminum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etacata View Post
    is the frame painted silver or is it raw aluminum?
    From every picture I can see, it looks painted
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    Sorry, sounds like I was mis understood.

    Surprised his full AXS build isn't lighter

    However, life is too short to obsess over frame weight
    full AXS is not a big weight savings. The remote dropper is heavier than most so the total savings over the stock GX groupset and dropper is maybe only a few hundred grams, add in the extra weight of my code rsc brakes over the stock shimano and you are talking about maybe half a pound difference. I think given that it's aluminum and the weight of this fork the total weight on this bike is where it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    From every picture I can see, it looks painted
    I'ts satin silver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    My custom build came in at 32 lbs fully loaded.

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    For those that have one, where did you get it? One of my local shops has an orange nx large and said it was around 33 lbs. I'd want the silver frame only, slx complete or gx complete. Shop told me Ibis was showing mid Oct delivery for that. I'm going to call Jensen tomorrow to see what they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    I'ts satin silver
    But is it raw alloy (no paint) or is it painted? Personally I think they should bring back bead blasted anodized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    For those that have one, where did you get it? One of my local shops has an orange nx large and said it was around 33 lbs. I'd want the silver frame only, slx complete or gx complete. Shop told me Ibis was showing mid Oct delivery for that. I'm going to call Jensen tomorrow to see what they have.
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    Such a sweet option to have on the market.

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    check fanatic website , it says they have a few.

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    I have a silver/coil frame on order from Jensen. Ship date is end of the month. Also checked with fanatic and they have same time line. What they had sold quick. Hopefully the restock date is true

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    But is it raw alloy (no paint) or is it painted? Personally I think they should bring back bead blasted anodized.
    I agree

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    Shaun @ N+1 bikes had a few more in stock when I ordered mine.

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    I'm really curious to see how this compares to the Fezzari La Sal Peak. I read a lot of reviews that described the bikes as similar with the LSP having a bit more confidence on the descents and the Ripmo being a bit livelier when pedaling. The geo changes on the AF bring it pretty darn close to the LSP, so I'm curious if they now ride even more similarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post
    I'm really curious to see how this compares to the Fezzari La Sal Peak. I read a lot of reviews that described the bikes as similar with the LSP having a bit more confidence on the descents and the Ripmo being a bit livelier when pedaling. The geo changes on the AF bring it pretty darn close to the LSP, so I'm curious if they now ride even more similarly.
    The fit (especially during seated pedaling) will be waaaaay different though. The Ripmo/Ripmo AF is 1.5" longer in ETT than the La Sal Peak.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    The fit (especially during seated pedaling) will be waaaaay different though. The Ripmo/Ripmo AF is 1.5" longer in ETT than the La Sal Peak.
    Wow, I just looked at the LSP geo and the Medium has a 22.2" Top Tube! I know everybody only like to talk about Reach but dayum, that has to be a pain riding that thing while seated. It's not a DH bike, you're gonna be sitting a good chunk of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanInTheD View Post
    Wow, I just looked at the LSP geo and the Medium has a 22.2" Top Tube! I know everybody only like to talk about Reach but dayum, that has to be a pain riding that thing while seated. It's not a DH bike, you're gonna be sitting a good chunk of the time.


    A lot of people are putting areo bars on those bikes to stretch out when seated.
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    The short TT does seem to be the most polarizing part of the LSP. I don't know if it would bother me or not, though. It is 13mm shorter than the TT on my current bike (an XL V1 Bronson). I have the seat slid up to steepen the STA a little bit, so I suspect that if I slid the LSP's back on the rails, it would be about the same, which is fine by me, if not long.

    I don't see nearly as much reason to go for the LSP now that the Ripmo AF is out, but I will wait for reviews to see if there is more difference than I'd expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanInTheD View Post
    Wow, I just looked at the LSP geo and the Medium has a 22.2" Top Tube! I know everybody only like to talk about Reach but dayum, that has to be a pain riding that thing while seated. It's not a DH bike, you're gonna be sitting a good chunk of the time.
    correct

    The Ripmo AF is right at the cusp of what I prefer for ETT. (635-640mm is my sweet spot)
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Iíd also be curious as to how the bike does in Sedona. Particularly in the slow tech moves.

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    I was able to score an AF GX build! It'll be here Monday. I'll post a full review later in the week. I've been on a quest all summer. Demo'd a lot of the latest bike, all on the same trail so can directly compare. I had a hightower on order for a month when I cancelled it yesterday. Bikes ridden were the enduro, ripmo, stumpy 27.5, mojo3, instinct bc, altitude, tracer, and bronson v3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    I was able to score an AF GX build! It'll be here Monday. I'll post a full review later in the week. I've been on a quest all summer. Demo'd a lot of the latest bike, all on the same trail so can directly compare. I had a hightower on order for a month when I cancelled it yesterday. Bikes ridden were the enduro, ripmo, stumpy 27.5, mojo3, instinct bc, altitude, tracer, and bronson v3.
    Did you get to demo a ripmo af? If so how was it compared to others.

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    I just got the NX build in orange for 3k out the door! They actually had it stickered for $3199. I will just say from initial impressions - very stoked!! You wouldn't know if was aluminum from a quick glance. Paint job is superb. And the orange color with the yellow/green accents from DVO along with the standard Maxxis Yellow all make for a sick looking bike. Got 2 comments already from pedaling around neighborhood. It's relatively heavy but pedaling it eased my apprehension. Even with the Assegai. It's my first DW though so maybe it's the platform. Can't imagine a better deal out there for 3k while supporting Cali and the local bike shop. Win! Will ride when it's not balls hot down here in SoCal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant View Post
    Roman: I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the AF, particularly as a direct comparison to the stock plastic Ripmo. Also, do you have a consistent test loop there? HiLine? Hogs? Something else?
    I like to take new bikes on a few trails here, one being Hiline. I got a good ride in on it today. The bike to me feels better with it's slacker HTA and more progressive suspension. The stock DVO suspension felt good and im just running the base settings with no fine tuning yet. I think this bike is a big winner for the price it's selling for and I think the stock build kits are solid. I will put some more miles on it over the next few weeks and play with setup more a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickyface View Post
    Did you get to demo a ripmo af? If so how was it compared to others.

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    saw one at sports basement today. idk. it's definitely not a spesh aLU bike. it's not a stumpy evo. definitely budget built. gussets are a little jank to be honest. would make a great disposable racebike though.

    -still uses ti and ano alu fasteners, that's cool.
    -no internal routing in the swingarm
    -headangle is definitely 1+ degrees slacker
    -suspension felt good off the top. very supple.
    -cable bosses are standard china factory fare
    -i think the lower gusset on this one is off center? intentional?
    -no downtube guard, they're reallly shaving pennies on this thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMatt View Post
    saw one at sports basement today. idk. it's definitely not a spesh aLU bike. it's not a stumpy evo. definitely budget built. gussets are a little jank to be honest. would make a great disposable racebike though.

    -still uses ti and ano alu fasteners, that's cool.
    -no internal routing in the swingarm
    -headangle is definitely 1+ degrees slacker
    -suspension felt good off the top. very supple.
    -cable bosses are standard china factory fare
    -i think the lower gusset on this one is off center? intentional?
    -no downtube guard, they're reallly shaving pennies on this thing.
    Wow, the small details on that bike look a bit cheap for sure. That gusset will be a dirt and mud trap, very strange for it to be off centre like that too.

    I guess in the end, for the price that's what you're going to get. Hopefully these are "first run" bikes and the later ones come out much cleaner.

    Of more interest though is the short travel whip possibly in the pipeline... Have a listen to the Bike Rumour podcast with Scott and Hans, there's a little snippet in there with sketchy detail, but definite hints. But that should be a different thread

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    thx for the tip. will do. could be sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMatt View Post
    saw one at sports basement today. idk. it's definitely not a spesh aLU bike. it's not a stumpy evo. definitely budget built. gussets are a little jank to be honest. would make a great disposable racebike though.

    -still uses ti and ano alu fasteners, that's cool.
    -no internal routing in the swingarm
    -headangle is definitely 1+ degrees slacker
    -suspension felt good off the top. very supple.
    -cable bosses are standard china factory fare
    -i think the lower gusset on this one is off center? intentional?
    -no downtube guard, they're reallly shaving pennies on this thing.
    Mine is off center to the NDS. This section above the BB would be nice if it was welded all the way around to keep it from collecting mud. My spesh alum evo was very clean but it's also about $600 more for similar spec as the AF. My evo also did not have a downtube protector which I think is almost a must these days.

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    Downtube protectors are really only required on carbon frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Downtube protectors are really only required on carbon frames.
    There are several companies that use downtube protectors on their aluminum frames. It might not crack like carbon but you can still F**K up aluminum with rock strikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    There are several companies that use downtube protectors on their aluminum frames. It might not crack like carbon but you can still F**K up aluminum with rock strikes.
    I wouldn't argue if Ibis wanted to stick a downtube protector on there, but I don't feel it is necessary.

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    I feel like weíre splitting hairs here, no?
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    The SLX build is actually a better bang for the buck choice over the GX.

    The cranks are better (and lighter) than Descendants and the SLX 7100 4-pot brakes will be superior to the Deores that come with the GX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    The SLX build is actually a better bang for the buck choice over the GX.

    The cranks are better (and lighter) than Descendants and the SLX 7100 4-pot brakes will be superior to the Deores that come with the GX.

    GX comes with carbon bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMatt View Post
    saw one at sports basement today. idk. it's definitely not a spesh aLU bike. it's not a stumpy evo. definitely budget built. gussets are a little jank to be honest. would make a great disposable racebike though.

    -still uses ti and ano alu fasteners, that's cool.
    -no internal routing in the swingarm
    -headangle is definitely 1+ degrees slacker
    -suspension felt good off the top. very supple.
    -cable bosses are standard china factory fare
    -i think the lower gusset on this one is off center? intentional?
    -no downtube guard, they're reallly shaving pennies on this thing.
    Which SB has them in stock to check out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Which SB has them in stock to check out?
    I saw an orange one (XL I think?) and silver one (L) at the Berkeley SB a couple of days ago.

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    Just picked mine up on saturday, hopefully will have it built by the middle of this week.

    I'm pretty stoked and I think the frame is nicely made, but I agree that bottom gusset is a bit of an exception to that and it looks like a bit of an afterthought. I also wonder if the cables are going to rattle like hell in the frame, I wish the cable ports actually clamped the cables.

    Otherwise really pumped. I felt both the ripmo and evil offering were awesome but too steep on the head angle side and could stand to be more progressive, oh, and less expensive. :-P Ripmo AF solves all of those issues so I am pumped.

    My build will be rough an X01 and a little lighter on the tire setup too so while I don't care too much I'm interested to see where the weight ends up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Which SB has them in stock to check out?
    this was SB - presidio - in SF - it had some weird band on it like it was either being held or it was sold. IDK. was a GX build, not sure of size.

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    with the og ripmo not able to run a coil I would have thought that the coil version would be popular but have only seen air shock versions. like to get a report on how the coil runs. only photos of a ripmo af coil are pics from ibis add. strange....

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    I donít think the coil is available till end of October

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    that's weird. were did you here that from? I have a colon order. date they gave me is 9_21

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    Kinda seems like everyone's dealers are saying different things. I'd love for an ibis employee to read this thread and add input. I ordered mine and the dealer basically said "i have no idea when it will come".

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    Not trying to be a downer, Iím definitely an Ibis supporter (own a Ripmo), but when I look at the welds on a Knolly Fugi vs. the AF there simply is no comparison. Iím sure the AF will hold up but the Knolly wins the eye test in every way.


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    I'll take excellent build kits and mediocre welds any day. If I don't want to look at the metal work I'll go carbon. I'm fine with the trade-off. I think this bikes target audience will be ok with it. Hopefully the response is strong and we'll see the ripley go metal.

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    Saw at least two AFs on the floor at the Berkeley SB yesterday and they're going to have Demos soon too

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    Not trying to be a downer, Iím definitely an Ibis supporter (own a Ripmo), but when I look at the welds on a Knolly Fugi vs. the AF there simply is no comparison. Iím sure the AF will hold up but the Knolly wins the eye test in every way.


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    The only area that is not visually appealing to me is the area above the BB. I think the fact that this frame is hundreds less than other alum frames and how good the bike rides will help some overlook minor cosmetic issues.

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    I had a buddy buy one for his kid. He went down to sports basement the day before official release and said I want one. They had it in a box and said come back tomorrow morning and get it. Kid is super stoked!
    Demand is high and Ibis is testing to see if aluminum frames sell. Other frame s are sure to follow.
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    I hate to say this but all these comments about the frame gusset are pretty funny. You guys certainly are particular! The carbon frame has a large bulge in the same spot. Not sure why they need anything there on either but there must be a reason. Overall, I like the looks well enough. In person, it has a pretty beefy, "ready to send it" look and not as sleek as the new Hightower or some others. I like it better than the carbon Ripmo colors. I just built mine up last night and am going for a shakedown ride after work. Initial feelings are, it will be a total steam roller. Maybe a bit slow on pedally stuff due to the heavy tires. I took it around the hood last night, including a couple short trails. It was almost dark out so didn't get too much time. Added weight over the carbon, assuming the same GX/Assegai build, should only be the fork and frame so maybe 2.3 lbs of non-rolling weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    I hate to say this but all these comments about the frame gusset are pretty funny. You guys certainly are particular! The carbon frame has a large bulge in the same spot. Not sure why they need anything there on either but there must be a reason. Overall, I like the looks well enough. In person, it has a pretty beefy, "ready to send it" look and not as sleek as the new Hightower or some others. I like it better than the carbon Ripmo colors. I just built mine up last night and am going for a shakedown ride after work. Initial feelings are, it will be a total steam roller. Maybe a bit slow on pedally stuff due to the heavy tires. I took it around the hood last night, including a couple short trails. It was almost dark out so didn't get too much time. Added weight over the carbon, assuming the same GX/Assegai build, should only be the fork and frame so maybe 2.3 lbs of non-rolling weight.

    Couldn't have said it better. Also got mine built yesterday. On initial pedalling around I was really surprised by how plush and solid it felt.

    When I rode the evil offering and standard ripmo, the felt capable enough but like they definitely had some clear limits at least at my skill level.

    Conversely when I rode the Pivot Firebird 29 it felt like an unstoppable battering ram of a bike.

    The Ripmo AF feels kinda in the middle between those two types of ride feels and for me that's a good thing.

    And also agree the gusset is easy to pick on but in the sum of its parts it's a great looking ride.

    Let us know how you like the assegais. Here in the pacific north west I don't think I want such a heavy, but not-sticky tire. For now I have an XR4/SE5 combo I will run until I decide what to do with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyWatson View Post
    Let us know how you like the assegais. Here in the pacific north west I don't think I want such a heavy, but not-sticky tire. For now I have an XR4/SE5 combo I will run until I decide what to do with them.
    PNWet Assegai review with some interesting comments about casing and rubber compound options.

    https://nsmb.com/articles/maxxis-ass...o-tire-review/
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    Thanks for the firsthand reports, guys! This is the first bike that I've considered upgrading to in a while, so I'm very curious as to how people end up liking them.

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    Fwiw I rode with the whole Rocky Mountain EWS team when they were here a month ago and they all swore by the Assegai on the front. They did admit though, their mission isn't climbing speed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    Fwiw I rode with the whole Rocky Mountain EWS team when they were here a month ago and they all swore by the Assegai on the front. They did admit though, their mission isn't climbing speed!
    I think its currently the best front tire for aggressive riding but I run the Dissector on the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothmoose View Post
    Assegai EXO+ adds 300-400g compared to Minions EXO. This is a gravity focused bike. But you easily drop 1lb or even 2lbs with tires (Rekon EXO, Bontrager XR3)
    That would be the DD version. The exo+ assegai is maybe 100g heavier than the stock DHF. To me that's like nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    Who has experience with the DVO suspension?
    I have a pretty good amount of experience with their stuff. Figured it might be worth mentioning here since there will be a lot of first time DVOers. I've had 3 different Topaz shocks and one of their forks. I weigh 215ish and ride pretty natural terrain.

    For the Topaz, you have spacer adjustments on the positive and negative side that can be changed out without removing the shock (but make sure it's clean, you don't want dirt inside the air can). I suggest removing it and wiping it down really good, but you don't have to. You also have rebound and bladder pressure.

    On the spacers, the positive spacers work the same as others do by increasing progression. On the negative side, I honestly couldn't come up with a good explanation for how they work. It seems like it helps reduce the power the negative has, so it can help provide more support on the midstroke, while also reducing the amount of air pressure required for a given sag point. In other words, if you are blowing through the first 20-30% of the travel too easily, add a negative spacer. It may reduce small bump compliance, though. That's my interpretation, anyway, but could be wrong. I'm sure it also depends on the linkage, I've never run them on a dw bike.

    They also like faster rebound settings. I found returns from deep in the stroke kindof slower than I'd prefer, but at 215 and running fairly high air pressure, I kept the LSR adjuster fairly open. YMMV and the tune may be different. The bladder pressure has a valid range, I think 170-200psi, I would keep it around 185-200. If it drops too low, the bladder can collapse and cause problems that require a rebuild, which is really important to note for the winter time where temps fluctuate, so you'll want to stay on top of the bladder pressure.

    It's one of the smoothest shocks I've owned, very little stiction and very supple. I wish there were more damper adjustments, but they do feel great.

    On the fork, I didn't have a Diamond, but a Sapphire 34 which has a different stanchion diameter and slightly different airspring. I don't think it's that much different than the Diamond, but take if FWIW.

    The tuning page that DVO setup for Giant is really close to how I set mine up:

    http://tech.dvosuspension.com/wp-con...up-guide-2.pdf

    I found any HSC above ~10 clicks would cause spiking, but I did use most of the range of the LSC adjuster for different trails. The key with their forks is to get the spring set up right, I ran about 15% sag but had the OTT adjuster cranked in pretty far. That provided more support with some off the top sensitivity for small bump compliance.

    All their products can be rebuilt by the end user and they have great support. If you have any questions, they are real easy to get on the phone and are happy to help you walk through stuff, they are awesome to deal with.

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    Weighed my size L build today at 33lbs even with Hope F20 pedals (which weigh just under 1lb).

    I'm good with that.

    Changes from "stock" are:
    X01 Cassette
    Bontrager Line 30 Comp wheelset (about 2100g)
    2.4 XR4 tire rear, 2.6 SE5 tire front
    Hope cranks and pedals.
    Magura Mt Trail Sport brakes (probably no weight diff there though)

    The hope cranks are nearly as heavy as NX and the wheelset is not light either.

    With carbon wheels and cranks you could probably save another 1-1.5lbs or so.

    I'd expect a total gucci build to tip the scales around 30lb without pedals. You won't get much lighter without installing wheels and tires that don't suit the intentions of the bike, IMO.

    First "real" ride tonight! Stoked.

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    Am slow building mine after work at the shop. Everything looks as it should but damned if running internal housing is pain in the tuckus I tell you. Also the paint is thiccc. I had to use a metal screw driver to pry the NDS housing plates off the downtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyWatson View Post
    Weighed my size L build today at 33lbs even with Hope F20 pedals (which weigh just under 1lb).

    I'm good with that.

    Changes from "stock" are:
    X01 Cassette
    Bontrager Line 30 Comp wheelset (about 2100g)
    2.4 XR4 tire rear, 2.6 SE5 tire front
    Hope cranks and pedals.
    Magura Mt Trail Sport brakes (probably no weight diff there though)

    The hope cranks are nearly as heavy as NX and the wheelset is not light either.

    With carbon wheels and cranks you could probably save another 1-1.5lbs or so.

    I'd expect a total gucci build to tip the scales around 30lb without pedals. You won't get much lighter without installing wheels and tires that don't suit the intentions of the bike, IMO.

    First "real" ride tonight! Stoked.
    Thanks for this. So I imagine that an XL NX build would probably be a bit over 35 stock.

    I honestly don't even know what my current bike weighs, so whether it would be notable, I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post
    Thanks for this. So I imagine that an XL NX build would probably be a bit over 35 stock.

    I honestly don't even know what my current bike weighs, so whether it would be notable, I'm not sure.
    TL:dr - I wouldn't worry about the weight

    I've ridden similar capability bikes from just under 28lbs to 35lbs and the only time I really notice a significant difference is lifting the bike out of the truck. I have PR'd climbs and DHs on lighter and heavier bikes. I've taken my heavier bikes on epic alpine rides with no issues.

    I'm not saying there is no difference at all, but from a practical point of view a few pounds either way is not a big deal.

    Lighter bikes do accelerate a touch better, but they also get deflected off line easier and require more energy to control. Heavier bikes take a bit more effort to get going, but they also hold their line better and keep rolling a bit more easily in chunk. The end result is pretty much the same for recreational fun riding.

    Stuff like tires, suspension design and setup is way more important.

    To be fair I am ~195lbs ready to ride a strong rider - for a normal casual MTBer. If I was building a bike for my 120lbs GF I'd be a little more concerned with bike weight as it would matter more to her on a power to weight basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    TL:dr - I wouldn't worry about the weight

    I've ridden similar capability bikes from just under 28lbs to 35lbs and the only time I really notice a significant difference is lifting the bike out of the truck. I have PR'd climbs and DHs on lighter and heavier bikes. I've taken my heavier bikes on epic alpine rides with no issues.

    I'm not saying there is no difference at all, but from a practical point of view a few pounds either way is not a big deal.

    Lighter bikes do accelerate a touch better, but they also get deflected off line easier and require more energy to control. Heavier bikes take a bit more effort to get going, but they also hold their line better and keep rolling a bit more easily in chunk. The end result is pretty much the same for recreational fun riding.

    Stuff like tires, suspension design and setup is way more important.

    To be fair I am ~195lbs ready to ride a strong rider - for a normal casual MTBer. If I was building a bike for my 120lbs GF I'd be a little more concerned with bike weight as it would matter more to her on a power to weight basis.
    I'm not super worried about it (I'm near your weight ready to ride). The AF is also a bit slacker than my current bike and I don't want my next bike to end up feeling more sluggish. I do take my everyday bike to the park, but most of the trails I ride, I'd be fine on a Ripley. So i'm just trying to get a sense of things. Thanks for the help!

    Really I should be patient and look for a demo tour next spring, but we shall see...

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    First real ride last night. Had some clunking I thought was the fork and the found the headset was loose after the ride. It distracted me the whole time. First impressions are that it climbs great like any Ibis, rolls a bit slow due to the tires, corners and maneuvers amazingly, jumps great and is very easy to move in the air for a big bike, brakes/drivetrain/dropper are good and smooth, rear end is stiff laterally and suspension feels good but not dialed yet. We got some rain so given perfect dirt, I could still not believe the cornering traction I had. The limits were way higher than I expected and could barely reach them. The trail is my normal testing loop and has a good amount of jumps and doubles up to 2.5 bike lengths, berms, fast descending, great enduro bike test area. I over-jumped it several times. The bike just makes mole hills out of jumps. Seems like a total idiot could jump it. The rear end felt fairly supple but firm. Hard to describe but seems how all DW bikes I've been on. Mashed through some 1' rock clunk and it was pretty active and supple. Front end, I'm not sure yet. I need some more time on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    First real ride last night. Had some clunking I thought was the fork and the found the headset was loose after the ride. It distracted me the whole time. First impressions are that it climbs great like any Ibis, rolls a bit slow due to the tires, corners and maneuvers amazingly, jumps great and is very easy to move in the air for a big bike, brakes/drivetrain/dropper are good and smooth, rear end is stiff laterally and suspension feels good but not dialed yet. We got some rain so given perfect dirt, I could still not believe the cornering traction I had. The limits were way higher than I expected and could barely reach them. The trail is my normal testing loop and has a good amount of jumps and doubles up to 2.5 bike lengths, berms, fast descending, great enduro bike test area. I over-jumped it several times. The bike just makes mole hills out of jumps. Seems like a total idiot could jump it. The rear end felt fairly supple but firm. Hard to describe but seems how all DW bikes I've been on. Mashed through some 1' rock clunk and it was pretty active and supple. Front end, I'm not sure yet. I need some more time on it.
    Thanks for the review! You're a hero to us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    First real ride last night. Had some clunking I thought was the fork and the found the headset was loose after the ride. It distracted me the whole time. First impressions are that it climbs great like any Ibis, rolls a bit slow due to the tires, corners and maneuvers amazingly, jumps great and is very easy to move in the air for a big bike, brakes/drivetrain/dropper are good and smooth, rear end is stiff laterally and suspension feels good but not dialed yet. We got some rain so given perfect dirt, I could still not believe the cornering traction I had. The limits were way higher than I expected and could barely reach them. The trail is my normal testing loop and has a good amount of jumps and doubles up to 2.5 bike lengths, berms, fast descending, great enduro bike test area. I over-jumped it several times. The bike just makes mole hills out of jumps. Seems like a total idiot could jump it. The rear end felt fairly supple but firm. Hard to describe but seems how all DW bikes I've been on. Mashed through some 1' rock clunk and it was pretty active and supple. Front end, I'm not sure yet. I need some more time on it.
    Thanks for the review! Could you clarify a little bit: when you say that the bike makes mole hills out of jumps, you mean that it's poppy so it tends to clear their landing, correct? Not that it soaks up the take off transition?

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    This particular trail, I ride all the time and have done all of my demos on this year, so I know the jumps very well. I overshot some probably because the bike carries a lot of speed and hides it well because it's so stable. It does have good pop and does not absorb the takeoffs. I did my usual compression at the bottom of each jump and there's good support to push against and create as much pop off the lip as you want. It did make the jumps feel smaller because it just handles them so easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    This particular trail, I ride all the time and have done all of my demos on this year, so I know the jumps very well. I overshot some probably because the bike carries a lot of speed and hides it well because it's so stable. It does have good pop and does not absorb the takeoffs. I did my usual compression at the bottom of each jump and there's good support to push against and create as much pop off the lip as you want. It did make the jumps feel smaller because it just handles them so easily.
    Awesome! Thanks.

    Maybe I missed it up thread, but what other bikes did you demo aside from the Hightower and how did they compare?

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    Did anyone ever figure out if the silver is raw metal or silver paint?

    And what about the orange? It says the color is savina red. Is it more red or orange in person? Pictures make it look kind of orange.

    Raw frames are awesome, but orange is my favorite color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    Did anyone ever figure out if the silver is raw metal or silver paint?

    And what about the orange? It says the color is savina red. Is it more red or orange in person? Pictures make it look kind of orange.

    Raw frames are awesome, but orange is my favorite color.
    I'm pretty sure it's a silver paint. Anyone have one? I'm seeing one tomorrow so i can confirm. The red definitely looks orange to me.

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    I'll be able to take a look once I open the giant box in my garage that arrived today. Will report back.

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    more orange

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    Did anyone ever figure out if the silver is raw metal or silver paint?

    And what about the orange? It says the color is savina red. Is it more red or orange in person? Pictures make it look kind of orange.

    Raw frames are awesome, but orange is my favorite color.
    it's paint.

    Ibis needs some fresh blood in the cosmetics department. and/or start charging for custom colors like porsche does or SOMETHING.

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    Just looked at mine, paint for sure.

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    Great first ride reviews, they've got me pumped. My large orange frame arrives tomorrow. Hope to have it built up quick, and I'll post my ride reviews too.

    I did see two completes in the local shop before they sold (these things are not sitting long) and can confirm that the silver is PAINTED not raw.

    As to the Orange, it's what I would describe as an earthy orange, almost a rust maybe? It's kind of hard to describe, and it brightens noticeably in the sun, and looks kind of muted in darker lighting. It's not red, and it's not bright orange like the Transition Patrol or Orbea rallon. It's a darker, earthy orange. That probably didn't help, lol.
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    Actually that helps a lot. I'm glad to hear it is more orange than red. I'd rather have a brighter orange, but I think this looks great too.

    I've always lusted after an Ibis bike. I thought the Mojo 26er was the sexiest bike back in the day, but I could never afford one. Now I am really thinking of selling my current bike, which i really love, to get a Ripmo AF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post
    Awesome! Thanks.

    Maybe I missed it up thread, but what other bikes did you demo aside from the Hightower and how did they compare?
    Wow, that would be a long answer. Older models I demo'd were a 2017 enduro and a 2017 tracer. 2019 bikes demo'd were the ripmo carbon, bronson v3, stumpy 27.5, mojo3, altitude, and instinct bc. All rides on the same trail. Any of these in particular you want to know about? I can PM you. The Bronson was my fave. So plush and dialed feeling. I wanted a "modern geo" 29er though. Ordered a 2020 Hightower C S and waited over a month for it. The Ripmo AF came out and I somewhat impulsively snagged it. I wanted alloy when I began my demos but there wasn't one I liked. Went for the AF over the Hightower due to ability to run a coil, more travel, room for a 2.6 rear, and 35mm rims. I'm still a little unsure if I did the right thing not getting the Hightower since the Bronson was so good and the HT is a 29er version of it. That's what I really wanted as of a week ago before the AF was released. Others high on my list were SB130 LR edition and the Offering. I'm getting some noise from my fork and what I think is cable noise inside the frame so that's stressing me out. Need to get that resolved before I can really feel good about the AF, otherwise it does ride awesome and I'm sure I'll get those issues sorted very soon.

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    Pricing seems a bit odd, at least here in Europe: there is a £850 difference between the nx and slx version, when you can get an slx groupset for £450.
    Slx comes with a better dropper but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    Wow, that would be a long answer.
    Thanks! I'm actually on an older Bronson (though with an angleset and Topaz), so it's interesting to hear that was your favorite of the other bikes you rode. I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I overall like my bike, but am curious to try out a 29er on the rooty, rocky stuff I ride most often.

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    Anyone seen a comparison between coil and air? Particulary interested in how much worse the pedal efficiency is with coil.

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    ya, really wanting to here a coil review. my af frame with coil wont be in till mid Oct. hoping someone before then swaps out there air shock with a coil. maybe a rs super deluxe

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    Wow, that would be a long answer. Older models I demo'd were a 2017 enduro and a 2017 tracer. 2019 bikes demo'd were the ripmo carbon, bronson v3, stumpy 27.5, mojo3, altitude, and instinct bc. All rides on the same trail. Any of these in particular you want to know about? I can PM you. The Bronson was my fave. So plush and dialed feeling. I wanted a "modern geo" 29er though. Ordered a 2020 Hightower C S and waited over a month for it. The Ripmo AF came out and I somewhat impulsively snagged it. I wanted alloy when I began my demos but there wasn't one I liked. Went for the AF over the Hightower due to ability to run a coil, more travel, room for a 2.6 rear, and 35mm rims. I'm still a little unsure if I did the right thing not getting the Hightower since the Bronson was so good and the HT is a 29er version of it. That's what I really wanted as of a week ago before the AF was released. Others high on my list were SB130 LR edition and the Offering. I'm getting some noise from my fork and what I think is cable noise inside the frame so that's stressing me out. Need to get that resolved before I can really feel good about the AF, otherwise it does ride awesome and I'm sure I'll get those issues sorted very soon.
    Does the AF have any kind of internal tunnels for the cables or are they just laying inside there? How is the perceived stiffness of the AF, especially the rear end, compared to the carbon?

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    Got my first ride in yesterday!

    For context:

    I'm coming from a Bronson V2, and previously demoed the Offering and standard Ripmo as well as a very brief ride on a Firebird 29 (closer to a parking lot test).

    When I set the suspension up I got reasonable sag front and rear with about 10psi less than DVO baseline, and I rode with the compression wide open front and rear.

    For straight up plowing this setup was great, the bike is a monster truck. It feels like a much bigger bike than an Offering or standard ripmo. More of an enduro bike than a trail bike.

    I found the standard Ripmo and Offering very mild mannered and easy to ride on a variety of trails, but it was easy to bring them to the point of feeling overwhelmed on steep rough tracks. The AF feels more like I remember the firebird 29 feeling. Point and smash.

    The point and smash applies both up and down. It likes going up steep rough technical climbs as well. It's amazing how you can stand and mash the pedals and the rear suspension stays working, I really notice this coming from a previous gen VPP bike that is prone to hanging up on ledges.

    I found it pretty ground huggy and really easy to ride fast, great traction and rips corners (I think even better than the offering, and that bike corners great).

    I didn't find it very poppy or playful on milder terrain, or at the very least as i had it set up, to really jump little side hits and stuff you need to be going fast. But - as noted I did set the bike up pretty soft initially. Next I will try another 5-10 psi in the suspension and/or some more compression and do a ride on some more traversing trails and see if I can find a balance between pop and plow. I suspect I can since I erred on the plow side in the initial setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swade View Post
    Does the AF have any kind of internal tunnels for the cables or are they just laying inside there? How is the perceived stiffness of the AF, especially the rear end, compared to the carbon?
    Nope, no tunnels. I was worried about rattling, I'm only one ride in but I didn't notice anything thus far, I will report if I do, for sure. I'm about 210 geared up and ride hard, as noted in my first impressions I think I had the bike set up a little soft which made stiffness a little hard to judge, but I can say the back end tracks really well when slapping a berm which is where I would typical expect to notice laterally stiffness.

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    thanks for the review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyWatson View Post
    Got my first ride in yesterday!
    Thanks for the review! How did it feel in comparison to the Bronson? I'll be eager to see what it's like with a few more PSI in, as I don't need a smash bike most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyWatson View Post
    Nope, no tunnels. I was worried about rattling, I'm only one ride in but I didn't notice anything thus far, I will report if I do, for sure. I'm about 210 geared up and ride hard, as noted in my first impressions I think I had the bike set up a little soft which made stiffness a little hard to judge, but I can say the back end tracks really well when slapping a berm which is where I would typical expect to notice laterally stiffness.
    FWIW, Amazon has insulated covers for hydration pack hoses for cheap that work well for quiting internal routing when there isn't cable guides.

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    Frame arrived! Here's a picture inside, where the frame has a more muted and reddish-orange look to it. The other picture is outside in natural sunlight and you can see that burnt orange or rust color.

    Maybe this will help in addition to the pictures posted above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaniardclimber View Post
    Pricing seems a bit odd, at least here in Europe: there is a £850 difference between the nx and slx version, when you can get an slx groupset for £450.
    Slx comes with a better dropper but still.
    US is worse. Difference is $1000 for NX and SLX when SLX group is less than $500 at full retail pricing.

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    Just got mine today. Cancelled my order from LBS due to the immediate backorder status and called every shop within driving distance to find one. Ended up driving 5.5 hrs round trip. Could not be more stoked on it. I'll frame protect it tomorrow, ride over the weekend and report back.

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    Just got my first ride in. Am coming off of a Ripley LS V2 with a -1d headset and a 140mm fork with 51mm offset. The AF was stable and heavy. So so heavy... Probably shouldn't have put that cushcore in the rear wheel...

    Anyhow, weight aside, I'm looking forward to dialling it in and getting some miles in Truckee/S.Tahoe before the snows come.

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    Do the frame onlyís come with a headset installed like in the pics on their website?
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Will this not make a good trail bike?

    I have a short travel bike and got a long travel bike to compliment it. Turns out, I love riding the long travel bike on all kinds of trails. I don't get too much of a perceived downside even on tamer trails. I often would rather just be on the long travel bike than the short travel ride. I was thinking of selling my long travel bike and getting this in hope it would also be fun on all kinds of trails. Would those who have ridden it advise against this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    Will this not make a good trail bike?

    I have a short travel bike and got a long travel bike to compliment it. Turns out, I love riding the long travel bike on all kinds of trails. I don't get too much of a perceived downside even on tamer trails. I often would rather just be on the long travel bike than the short travel ride. I was thinking of selling my long travel bike and getting this in hope it would also be fun on all kinds of trails. Would those who have ridden it advise against this?
    Ibis are notorious for low bb which makes them super fun going down but up not so much. As an all arounder I would see if you can rent one to take out on your trails and see if it's for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    Will this not make a good trail bike?

    I have a short travel bike and got a long travel bike to compliment it. Turns out, I love riding the long travel bike on all kinds of trails. I don't get too much of a perceived downside even on tamer trails. I often would rather just be on the long travel bike than the short travel ride. I was thinking of selling my long travel bike and getting this in hope it would also be fun on all kinds of trails. Would those who have ridden it advise against this?
    What is your long travel trail bike? I would consider this a bit burly for a long travel trail bike due to tires, weight, head angle. This bike likes gravity. As has been mentioned in a few reviews, this is different from the original Ripmo. If your're not giving this bike gravity and/or jumps, it's going to get bored and maybe cumbersome feeling compared to something with a bit less travel and 66ish head angle. This thing wants to get rowdy, not just cruise relatively tame trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenErik1 View Post
    GX comes with carbon bars.
    True. However, note that the GX crankset weighs about 100g more than the Shimano SLX crankset, so the weight savings on a carbon bar are negated.

    Add the fact that the brakes are better and the RD has a better clutch, then the SLX is starting to look like an even better option.

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    I was just contemplating the same question because I keep reading things like 'monster truck' and 'big bike'. I'm starting to think the plastic Ripmo might be a bit more versatile and trail worthy since it's lighter, shorter and steeper. When the Ripmo AF came out I was dead set on buying one because of the value. But the long wheel base and slack head angle might make some of my slower trails here in the Northeast feel a bit boring. I'm just speculating based on the geometry.

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    Look at the HD4 numbers...I can tell you that it doesn't feel like a monster truck. Sure the larger wheels will add a bit. Overall it will be a great trail bike with a gravity focus.

    Of course the original Ripmo will be more versatile. If you're just ripping trails then a Ripley would be the best choice.

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    I've been on two rides now on terrain that's just what this bike is for. Jackass/Yogi area for my fellow Truckee commenter in this thread. The bike is a bit slow of a climber but with the DW link, it's not bad and pedals very efficiently. I love how it climbs over and through rocks. Since the only things heavier than the same build carbon Ripmo are the frame 2.1 lbs and fork ~.25 lbs, the weight difference isn't much, and not rolling weight. Either bike with the Assegai front and rear is going to be a bit slow. The bike is big and long but riding, it doesn't really feel like it and the handling is nimble downhill and easy to toss from corner to corner. Awesome MTB on YouTube said this and I agree, it can be a burly trail bike as is, or you can do a lighter build and have a great all around trail bike for the alloy fans out there. I might toss on a faster rear tire at some point. I'm also getting some cable noise in the frame so plan on wrapping the cables in foam and I'm getting a clicking sound from the fork when it compresses from full extension. Hopefully I can sort that out with DVO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicjoe View Post
    What is your long travel trail bike? I would consider this a bit burly for a long travel trail bike due to tires, weight, head angle. This bike likes gravity. As has been mentioned in a few reviews, this is different from the original Ripmo. If your're not giving this bike gravity and/or jumps, it's going to get bored and maybe cumbersome feeling compared to something with a bit less travel and 66ish head angle. This thing wants to get rowdy, not just cruise relatively tame trails.
    My current long travel bike is slacker and heavier than the AF. I have a Process 153 29er AL. I put a Durolux on it. It has a long crown to axel length, and ends up being a little over 170mm according to my measurements.I love the Durolux. Its fantastic. It has slackened the bike to having a 64 degree head angle. And I haven't noticed any negative side effects really.

    Its also a heavy beast, but so am I. I never notice the weight when pedalling. I tried the bike on some tame trails and loved it as much as my shorter travel bike. I dont really notice any disadvantages on it. I'm not an amazing rider popping off everything, although I wish I was. I'm a more of a go fast and monster truck everything kind of guy.

    But as I mentioned before. I've always wanted an Ibis. I'm really thinking of trying the AF. I figured with the DW Link it may feel even better than the Process. Am I thinking wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    I figured with the DW Link it may feel even better than the Process. Am I thinking wrong?
    Ibis makes great bikes, but it sounds like you'll spend a bunch of money to end up pretty close to where you already are. Personally I wouldn't bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    My current long travel bike is slacker and heavier than the AF. I have a Process 153 29er AL. I put a Durolux on it. It has a long crown to axel length, and ends up being a little over 170mm according to my measurements.I love the Durolux. Its fantastic. It has slackened the bike to having a 64 degree head angle. And I haven't noticed any negative side effects really.

    Its also a heavy beast, but so am I. I never notice the weight when pedalling. I tried the bike on some tame trails and loved it as much as my shorter travel bike. I dont really notice any disadvantages on it. I'm not an amazing rider popping off everything, although I wish I was. I'm a more of a go fast and monster truck everything kind of guy.

    But as I mentioned before. I've always wanted an Ibis. I'm really thinking of trying the AF. I figured with the DW Link it may feel even better than the Process. Am I thinking wrong?
    Since you have a process 153 the Ibis is going to pedal worse. Going down it might be more fun but you going to hate going up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
    Since you have a process 153 the Ibis is going to pedal worse. Going down it might be more fun but you going to hate going up.

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    Huh? Ibis pedal worse than a 4 bar Kona?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    I'm also getting some cable noise in the frame so plan on wrapping the cables in foam and I'm getting a clicking sound from the fork when it compresses from full extension. Hopefully I can sort that out with DVO.
    You can tie some zap straps around the cables and not cut them. They will suspend the cable housing inside the frame. Beleive DVO has a coil negative spring, so that might be what youre hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
    Since you have a process 153 the Ibis is going to pedal worse. Going down it might be more fun but you going to hate going up.

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    i've ridden the Kona 153 in aluminum. It pedaled worse than the Ripmo AF in my opinion. The Ripmo AF pedals well for what it is - a 34 pound enduro bike with downhill tires. Swap the tires and it will roll better. It's' not about climbing fast with this bike. It shouldn't be mentioned with the Ripleys and such. It gets the job done. But you shouldn't pick this bike if your focus is more on going up and not down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck_tacoma View Post
    Huh? Ibis pedal worse than a 4 bar Kona?
    Right?

    Ibis bikes peddle well. Kinda known for it. True that they tend towards the lower BB side, but still climb well. I'll have my AF frame built up shortly and my trails are ultra rocky. My other bike, a GG Smash, is on the higher side for BB's and is an excellent climber. We'll see how the Rip AF compares.
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    Forgot this was the Ibis forum and that it's against the rules to say that anything in existence is better, my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
    Forgot this was the Ibis forum and that it's against the rules to say that anything in existence is better, my apologies.

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    True that!! Lol.

    Ibis isn't perfect, has flaws...but it's pedaling isn't one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
    since you have a process 153 the ibis is going to pedal worse. Going down it might be more fun but you going to hate going up.

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    lol

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    I've never owned an Ibis, and only currently own a frame sitting in a box. I love my GG, loved my GT, love Kona, which I know you're a fanboy of. Lots of good bikes. Ibis isn't perfect, I may not even keep this one long if I don't like it. I agreed with you that Ibis BB's are on the lower side and certainly lower than my personal preference dictates, but as I said, I also think you're overstating that case.

    But all of that said, Ibis bikes have been considered good, efficient peddlers and excellent climbers for a long time. I've ridden the ripmo a bunch and it climbs really well. Your claim that they don't peddle well and that a previous gen aluminum Process 153 out climbs the ripmo is just kinda silly, especially for one attempting to hurl accusations of bias at others.

    Your posts in the Kona forum are just as kool-aide drinking as anyone's here in the Ibis forum. I just happen to like both bikes, and there are several threads here where you can find me singing the Process bikes praises. Regardless of what I like though, I think exaggerated claims and subjective opinions stated as fact do no good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmj831 View Post
    I've never owned an Ibis, and only currently own a frame sitting in a box. I love my GG, loved my GT, love Kona, which I know you're a fanboy of. Lots of good bikes. Ibis isn't perfect, I may not even keep this one long if I don't like it. I agreed with you that Ibis BB's are on the lower side and certainly lower than my personal preference dictates, but as I said, I also think you're overstating that case.

    But all of that said, Ibis bikes have been considered good, efficient peddlers and excellent climbers for a long time. I've ridden the ripmo a bunch and it climbs really well. Your claim that they don't peddle well and that a previous gen aluminum Process 153 out climbs the ripmo is just kinda silly, especially for one attempting to hurl accusations of bias at others.

    Your posts in the Kona forum are just as kool-aide drinking as anyone's here in the Ibis forum. I just happen to like both bikes, and there are several threads here where you can find me singing the Process bikes praises. Regardless of what I like though, I think exaggerated claims and subjective opinions stated as fact do no good.
    I drink no kool-aid. In fact I say that Kona build kits suck and that the Ripmo goes downhill better than the Kona. One for going up and another for going down so please point me to the kool-aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMatt View Post
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    Let's compare 2 bikes with 2 different wheel sizes because you can?

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    the 29 is same or worse cuz.

    here's a 134. half inch less travel. still less AS. facts. who's the fan boy? i'm with you on the low BBs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmj831 View Post
    Right?

    Ibis bikes peddle well. Kinda known for it. True that they tend towards the lower BB side, but still climb well. I'll have my AF frame built up shortly and my trails are ultra rocky. My other bike, a GG Smash, is on the higher side for BB's and is an excellent climber. We'll see how the Rip AF compares.
    I'll be eager to hear what you think. The Smash is another of the bikes that I have on my list as an eventual Bronson replacement.

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    Finally got a chance to assemble and take this guy for a ride. Really liking the DVO suspension! Buttery smooth with great support.

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    Does anyone have a base tune for the Topaz?

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    Check out rider.dvosuspension.com or something like that

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    I did. Could only find base tune for the Diamond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    I did. Could only find base tune for the Diamond.
    http://tech.dvosuspension.com/setup/topaz-2/


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    Quote Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
    Forgot this was the Ibis forum and that it's against the rules to say that anything in existence is better, my apologies.

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    Not against the rules. Iíve owned many bikes including the process 111. Kona makes sick stuff but the DW Ripmo climbs better than any Kona Iíve ever been on. The DW Ibis is amazing when climbing an I honestly have no idea where youíre coming from. That said, each to their own and I value you option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    I did. Could only find base tune for the Diamond.
    What are you referring to when you say "base tune"? I'm coming from a moto/dirt bike background, and base tune usually refers to the shim/valve stack internally.

    But a lot of MTB guys seem to often use it to mean clicker settings, i.e. HSC/LSC and HSR/LSR settings, which is pretty simple on this shock given it only has 3 compression settings and on rebound circuit, right?
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    Can anyone with a size large verify that it came with a 160 bike yoke? I have a 160 but was hoping it'd have a 185.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfr4dr View Post
    Can anyone with a size large verify that it came with a 160 bike yoke? I have a 160 but was hoping it'd have a 185.
    My GX did, but I specifically asked for a 185.

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