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    Haro Mary Pictures/Info/Comments Thread

    I like my Mary so much I though it would be fun to start a strictly Mary SS/Mary XC forum. Here you can post your pictures, stories, comments, and questions on the Mary.

    I'll start with my 2007 Mary SS Frame up with:
    Reba SL 80mm
    Panaracer Rampage front tire
    Geax Saguaro rear tire
    Bontrager Race Lite Crank with Truvativ BB(maybe will be changed)
    Thomson seatpost
    Specialized Rival Saddle, Wedge and computer
    BB7 Mech's
    SRAM 8-Speed Chain
    ESI Chunky Grips


    Possible Upgrades:
    Shimano Crank
    Thomson stem+Monkey Lite Bar

    Definite upgrades:
    light dimension pro anodized black pedals(will save .5-1lb)

    Possible weight savings:
    Thomson Stem Over Bontrager Select: 10 Grams
    Monkey Light Handlebar over Bontrager Select: 100 Grams
    XT Crank over Bontrager Race Lite: 50-200Grams
    Dimension Pro Platform Pedals: 588-240=348Grams
    Total= <658Grams
    1.45lbs
    28.5-1.45=27.05lbs

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    Some Outdated ones:



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    9 months on Mary

    Had 2 bikes when I bought this one - only've got this one now. Rides like gold, but appears to be turning into titanium...

    '07 20" Haro Mary SS
    Fox F29 RLC @ 100mm
    Kent Eriksen ti seatpost
    WTB Rocket V Stealth ti-railed saddle
    Xpedo Ti/Ti SPD-type pedals
    Specialized Resolution Pro/front
    Maxxis Crossmark/rear
    ESI Chunky grips
    On order: Black Sheep ti bar based on Mary bar, but 1" wider

    Weight ?

    Possible Upgrades:
    Fizik Gobi ti saddle (one WTB rail looks slightly bent)
    Converting the F29 to 80mm to sharpen the steering
    Hydraulic brakes
    Nice wheelset

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    I fell in love with Mary way back in September of 06. This bike by far has been my favorite bike to this day. My gearie is worth about 3 times as much and it just sits in the corner. I love the way this bike rides and handles, its a true joy to ride. Its been here before but I'll post again.

    18 in Mary ss
    ergons
    thompson stem
    easton carbon bars and seat post
    king headset
    pace carbon fork
    right now its got Ignitors on it
    Rotor ring

    This pic shows it with an easton stem and some spacers, that was just for testing. Since then it has been replaced with the above mentioned Thompson and trimmed up nicely.
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    here is mine

    I have had this about 3 weeks and I love it. I changed the seat to my trusty old Koobi, added my clipless pedals and also a Stan's kit.
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    Nice rides everyone!!! Here's a funky Mary build I did:


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    I'm a huge fan of the Mary. Don't have any new photos yet though. I've since added 08 XT cranks to the SS, and returned to the stock steel fork. 08 avid mechs on the way, and 08 black avid levers because I crashed and bent one two weeks ago. Also adding a WTB weirwolf up front. XT/WTB Speeddisc wheelset also mounted since the front hub started making a sweaty fingers on a balloon sound when it was spinning and I had the spares lying around. New pic soon.

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    Mary SS no more

    Here's a couple of pictures of my Mary I put together April 2007.

    Specs:
    2007 20" Mary SS
    Reba SL fork
    Rohloff Speedhub
    BB7's
    Surly chainring
    Upgraded platform pedals
    Most everything else was standard on the Mary

    I've rebuilt the rear wheel since the picture to get rid of the DTSwiss rim, and put back on the WTB rim that came with the Mary. I also now am riding with a Nevegal on the front instead of the Exiwolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    Nice rides everyone!!! Here's a funky Mary build I did:

    Hey, Jill! She's a Beaut! I love the fenders! You'd never want to get them wet

    I'm "kinda" going in somewhat the same direction, at least with the Brooks B-17 saddle (not pictured). I really love the way the light brown leather complements the Humbolt Green. I have also added some green Crank Bothers Acid pedals and switched the tires to Kenda Small Blocks.

    Anyhoo, here's mine on her maiden voyage--a pretty rocky and somewhat technical trail. <a href="https://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/crazy4blues/MarySS.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy4blues
    Hey, Jill! She's a Beaut! I love the fenders! You'd never want to get them wet

    I'm "kinda" going in somewhat the same direction, at least with the Brooks B-17 saddle (not pictured). I really love the way the light brown leather complements the Humbolt Green. I have also added some green Crank Bothers Acid pedals and switched the tires to Kenda Small Blocks.

    Anyhoo, here's mine on her maiden voyage--a pretty rocky and somewhat technical trail. <a href="https://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/crazy4blues/MarySS.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
    Nice!

    I'm really amazed at how comfortable Brooks saddles are. The saddle on this bike is the Flyer; the springs give it a little "travel".

    I actually rode that bike around my neighborhood with a friend yesterday...went to breakfast and tooled around a bit. It was funny to see the looks I got from the hardcore roadies. It's the perfect little "fun" bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    I actually rode that bike around my neighborhood with a friend yesterday...went to breakfast and tooled around a bit. It was funny to see the looks I got from the hardcore roadies. It's the perfect little "fun" bike.
    True, but it's also a very serious trail bike that'll get you around all but the most technical terrain. I think you guys hit a homerun with the Mary, especially the SS. Its spec and price really do add up to kind of a gestalt-like formula. Hey, if it can attract a die-hard Santa Cruz guy, you guys have to be doing something right. So far, I've ridden my SS on the same trails as my Blur LT, and the GPS results are the same--at 1/3 of the price. In fact, I just put some Kenda Small Blocks on and had my best climb ever. I think the Mary SS will be a cult classic.

    Keep up the good work!

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    Currently serving as a commuter. Nothing a quick ring and tire change couldn't solve.



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    Update

    I have changed many of the components on my Mary, and here is the updated parts list
    American Classic SS wheels
    Kenda Small Block Eight's
    Bontrager Switchblade
    Dimension Pedals
    Bontrager Race Lite Stem
    WTB Devo Sweep
    Bontager Big Sweep 12 Degree
    New Rotors
    no more computer
    Old Weight- 28.1lbs
    New Weight- 23.06lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbo43867
    I have changed many of the components on my Mary, and here is the updated parts list
    American Classic SS wheels
    Kenda Small Block Eight's
    Bontrager Switchblade
    Dimension Pedals
    Bontrager Race Lite Stem
    WTB Devo Sweep
    Bontager Big Sweep 12 Degree
    New Rotors
    no more computer
    Old Weight- 28.1lbs
    New Weight- 23.06lbs
    Wow! That's quite a weight savings! I've got a Switchblade on my Mary; I might have to get me a set of the AC wheels and mount small blocks to them so my bike will be as light as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbo43867
    I have changed many of the components on my Mary, and here is the updated parts list
    American Classic SS wheels
    Kenda Small Block Eight's
    Bontrager Switchblade
    Dimension Pedals
    Bontrager Race Lite Stem
    WTB Devo Sweep
    Bontager Big Sweep 12 Degree
    New Rotors
    no more computer
    Old Weight- 28.1lbs
    New Weight- 23.06lbs
    Very nice! I have small blocks on mine right now, and while there's significant weight savings, they really require pretty mellow trails. On the American Classics, I have them on my 26er, and they are so good, I'm sure I'll end up with a set for the Mary sooner or later.

    So how did the fork affect the geo?

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    Mary SS. No, I'm not a Catholic or a Nazi.

    Since post #2 above, I had '08 XT hydraulic levers/calipers installed and retained the stock rotors.

    Plus my Black Sheep faux-Mary ti bar finally arrived - I ordered it back when I was convinced I'd stay fully rigid

    Also to note - the 27.2 Eriksen post is secured by a 31.6/27.2 post shim inside the stock shim. Works perfectly - thanks for the tip downhilljill!

    Mine's a Frankenstein that hasn't dropped any weight despite a lot of money dropped, but the ride is real sweet.

    More current picture (yesterday), leaning against my recliner I bought used on CraigsList 5 years for $50:
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    The Mary was bought as a friends bike but is growing on me more and more and has replaced my Karate Monkey as the ride of choice. Absolutely rock steady handling. I get comments about the look of the wheels with the bike every time I ride

    Magura Marta SL brakes
    Rock Shox Reba fork
    Cane Creek S2 headset
    Cane Creek Thudbuster LT
    Bontrager CRZ+ Sport saddle
    Industry Nine Wheels using DT Swiss Rims and orange spokes
    Panaracer Rampage tires
    Chris King stainless cog
    ODI Rogue Lockon Grips
    Dangerboy endcaps
    Odyssey Cielencki copper platform pedals
    Weight 28.22
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    I just picked up a Mary SS last night! First ride is today. It's a blue one, and stock for now except for the pedals so I won't bore you with the pictures. I have a set of silver/blue I9's that are going on the bike though which should be awesome. I also have new 18t and 20t cogs on order as well as a Surly spacer kit.

    After riding my friends Mary and then spending some more time on one in Vegas I knew that this was a great bike have around. I'm also looking forward to trying the 180mm cranks because it's something I probably never would have purchased on its own.

    I already have a Sultan but the Mary may steal a lot of my local trail time. My friends are already trying to talk me into doing the next 12hr race I have planned on this thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    Wow! That's quite a weight savings! I've got a Switchblade on my Mary; I might have to get me a set of the AC wheels and mount small blocks to them so my bike will be as light as yours.
    Well, Jill, you know who to call ! !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltj
    I get comments about the look of the wheels with the bike every time I ride
    Excellent! I normally don't care for spokes that aren't silver or black (that's putting it nicely), but these are outstanding!!! Nice job.
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    my mary needed to get fixed

    20" ss
    fizik aliante
    bb7
    ouray grips
    38t ring, 18-22t cogs
    weirwolf rear, saguro front
    l&m vega
    serfas tl2100

    After reading http://63xc.com/jasom/milldisc.htm for turning a disk hub into a fixed gear, I spayed mary. I've had my fix for about a week. I'm getting to know her new personality via commuting and riding plowed or trampled cement trails. Nearby singletrack is still unrideable with snow.
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    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    Thinking about giving my Mary a fork upgrade, just wondering about the ride quality improvement in going to Carbon rigid, or should I just sell my soul and get a suspension fork. Or should I just harden up and stop whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiTexan
    Thinking about giving my Mary a fork upgrade, just wondering about the ride quality improvement in going to Carbon rigid, or should I just sell my soul and get a suspension fork. Or should I just harden up and stop whining.
    I struggled with this issue for a long time. If you search the Single Speed forum, you'll find lots of threads on this. My take on the issue:

    If you're looking to just make your bike feel smoother and bit more compliant, a carbon fork might be a good, albeit expensive choice. If you're still riding with the stock Mary grips, I'd first suggest putting on some ESI Chunky grips (or other vibration-dampening grips) - I was surprised at the difference this made.

    For compliance through rocks, the best remedy is big fat tires run at the lowest psi possible without pinch flatting, combined with a rigid-specific riding style: unweighting/lifting the front end when needed, a looser handgrip, well-chosen lines, etc. Beyond that, a more compliant rigid fork is helpful, too, but at some point, a suspension fork makes more sense than trying to create suspension through a collection of flexing parts.

    My trails are steep and rocky and moving to a suspension fork really allowed me to get back to attacking technical downhills and having more fun. But riding rigid for 6-8 months really increased my skill level. If my trails were smoother, I would definitely have stayed fully rigid.

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    Thanks for the input. I've switched grips to Ourys, gone tubless with Ignitors at about 20psi, both of which helped. Never a problem when just out riding with the boys, but for the (very) occasional race when you are trying to get a bit more out of it, makes me wish for a bit of cush up front. $$ is a factor, carbon forks in NZL are more wholesale price than retail price in the US.

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    how fast do you want to go?

    Sounds like you have made the easy changes and you are still wanting more speed. The question is how much more? The faster you want, the more a suspended fork is the better answer. I've used the Reba before - run locked with high flood gate for only a few mills of suspension before blowthrough on really hard hits. Lower the gate to dial in 5-30 mm before blowthrough, or unlock with lower compression dampening to dial in even more suspension. An then there is the 85, 100, 115 total to dial in. Talk about scalability.

    I think a cf fork is for those committed to rigid and want to tweak the experience. Are you within tweaking distance?
    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    I finally got my Mary SS together. I figured that I should take a couple of pics before I get her dirty. I did what I could to overcome the 6 lb frame, but I could only get it to 24.0 lbs on my digital scale. I am still waiting for my tubeless valve stems so that I can run tubeless, and I am going to machine some material out of the ebb. I should be able to get it into the 23 lb range.
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    have a previous year XC, after i sorted thru the spec parts, i have it how i want it. 1st off i like hideous greens.

    chuck the brakes, saddle, grips, seatpost, and pedals and ur doin just fine.

    standard issue except these items which went on bike during build:

    avid CPS mech discs (call them bb7s now, 5s are junk)
    Ourys
    SpeedV Chrome Saddle
    ATACs
    Ritchey Comp Post (Old, Pro Post doesnt stay happy - nut crusher). Thomson soon.

    Still on Stock Rubber, pretty good stuff all-around, lil off on mud. no biggie.



    delish bike, it will not go anywhere. NRS hangs on wall. Screw aluminum, Screw FS designs (and their redesigns) and screw small wheels.

    Next up, this La Cruz is lookin nice for a Cross/Road/Comm Bike

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    Anyone riding a Mary that is geared?? I would love to see a few and maybe include the weight. Im thinking about getting one, but i may use it for some XC races...

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    If you scroll up in this thread to my "Mary SS no more" entry, you'll see pictures of a geared bike. Probably not what you're looking for however...

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    I just picked up my Mary SS a week ago. I test rode w/ the stock bar and just couldn't do it. The shop swapped a Titec riser and FSA stem for me. Only other parts added (not pictured) are a pair of CB Mallet C pedals and larger brake rotors (203f, 180r).

    I rode this weekend and found my elbow shocks don't work like they did 12 years ago (last time I rode rigid anything) so I'm in the market for a decent 100mm fork. I'll be fine dealing with the rigid ride until then. Hydro disks are on the future mod list. The only other immediate change will be to install a set of FSA Afterburner cranks I bought for my previous bike before I picked this up.

    Here it is the day I brought it home



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    Quote Originally Posted by bgredjeep
    I just picked up my Mary SS a week ago. ... I rode this weekend and found my elbow shocks don't work like they did 12 years ago (last time I rode rigid anything) so I'm in the market for a decent 100mm fork. I'll be fine dealing with the rigid ride until then.
    Congrats on the new mary!

    Rocky/ruff downhills at speed are about the only time I miss a suspension fork. I may be wrong but those tires look like they are pumped up pretty tight. What air pressure are you running? I weigh 185 + gear and run 20-25 psi in the front, 28-30 in the rear. That takes the edge off and will make dealing with the rigid a little easier till the 100mm is chosen.

    If you want to slow your downhills to rigid speed, you can throw a tomicog on for a fix gear experience! One or two teeth less than the freewheel cog seems about right.
    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    nah, I'd rather speed up the bike to my downhill speeds. I was running 35psi as the tire listed. At the advise of a friend at the trailhead I dropped the front to ~25psi and it did help. I'm ~220lbs ready to ride so I didn't want to go too low. I can certainly deal with the rigid fork for a little while as our trails are mostly pretty smooth but suspension is in my near future. I'm used to a 5" Marz fork on my 26" SS so the rigid was a bit of a shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgredjeep
    . I'm used to a 5" Marz fork on my 26" SS so the rigid was a bit of a shock.
    Ummmm . . .

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    I have had my Mary SS for a few weeks now and love it. This is my first SS mountain bike and it is a lot different then my Yeti 575. Definitely lose speed on the descents compared to the 575 but thats not really fair comparison. The bars do take some time to get used to but they are growing on me I think they shine when you are standing to climb mine just seem to be perfectly place with that weird bend. I really like having the to completely different bikes so that when my mood, ride, or even riding partner changes I can go with what ever fits. I will have pics coming soon I just forget my dang camera every time I hit the trail lately.

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    Weight Weenie Mary SS

    Mary has just finished her diet:
    C29ssmax wheels
    2.25 Racing Ralph tyres with Stans goop
    Salsa carbon bar
    Syncros stem
    Easton alloy post
    Token ti seat collar
    SLR saddle
    Crank Bros headset
    Cobalt cranks w/Ti BB
    Candy SL pedals
    Stroker Trail Brakes
    Only stock bits remaining are the frame and fork!
    As it stands the bike is down to 10kg / 22lbs
    Could drop a few 100g more with ESI grips, lighter brakes, chain & pedals but happy with it for now.
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    Mate your Mary is HOT!! Great work on getting it so light.. Good to see that its still a fun bike. I hate it when people go over the top with making bikes 2 light and then they can't ride them the way they should.. Good job.

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    Brand new Mary SS..






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    Quote Originally Posted by JHwick
    Mary has just finished her diet:
    C29ssmax wheels
    2.25 Racing Ralph tyres with Stans goop
    Salsa carbon bar
    Syncros stem
    Easton alloy post
    Token ti seat collar
    SLR saddle
    Crank Bros headset
    Cobalt cranks w/Ti BB
    Candy SL pedals
    Stroker Trail Brakes
    Only stock bits remaining are the frame and fork!
    As it stands the bike is down to 10kg / 22lbs
    Could drop a few 100g more with ESI grips, lighter brakes, chain & pedals but happy with it for now.
    Very nice!

    Is that the Salsa carbon bar with 17 degrees of back sweep?

    ESI grips was one of my Mary's first upgrades, and the best bang for buck upgrade I've ever done. Not sure what you have on there now, but the upgrade over stock made my rigid front end feel much quieter/smoother. I was surprised at the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntheBush
    Brand new Mary SS..



    Nice! Looks like the quintessential mountain bike to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1
    Nice! Looks like the quintessential mountain bike to me.
    Thanks..

    Yeah, I've had a chance to get everything mounted, chain lubed up properly, brakes adjusted, etc..and take a look at everything this morning and take it for a test spin or two..

    This is a very good SS rigid MTB.. The wheels are big, big.. And take a little getting used too compared to 26".. Boy do they roll. The BB5's are adequate.

    It's not cheap nor is it the most expensive SS out there, but then it's tight, well equipped for the price, well designed and well built production MTB..

    I'm happy with my choice, and I'm a somewhat demanding sort. Just ask my dealer..

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    Yep, it is a 17degree sweep on the Salsa bar — found it to be pretty good and the Salsa's seem to offer more comfort/flex than most carbon bars.
    The 10kg weigh was actually with ESI grips (they are ODI grips in the photo).

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    Picked this up a few weeks ago. So far it's just a standard Mary SS with the bars flipped, some bar tape and some old Oury grips.

    I need the change the gear ratio desperately. It'll be a commuter so I need better tyres and a ratio that'll allow me to go a bit quicker. Would be nice to get a bit lighter saddle for it too..
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    Wow...I'm digging the bar flip. I think I might try that on my Mary SS!

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    I like the idea of the bar tape on the Marys as well, especially for a commuter like that. Cool set up.

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    Thanks

    Here's a better one to see the bar tape..
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    Bit of a bump from my last post - What are the smallest tires you can fit on the WTB Laser Disc Trail rims?

    Also, what tool do I need to remove the lockring on the Pivit hub? I assume they take Shimano splined cogs? Can you use the wider based cogs like the Surly cogs? I assume I just need to use different sized spacers?

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    surly cogs work fine. The laser trail rim ID is 19mm - I wouldn't go less than 32C myself, actually I went with the 35C Schwalbe marathon supremes for soaking up potholes, etc. Depending on your topography, etc. I run a 48x20 or 18. stylo is a 104 BCD crank for ring size.

    One example to remove the cog lockring is http://www.parktool.com/products/det...5&item=HCW%2D5
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    Went for 37c Conti Country Ride's in the end. Great for commuting. Also chucked risers back on it. Not sure what I want to stick with yet. Wouldn't mind giving some drops a try next.
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    Mary 1 x 9, with studs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
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    15 deg F. Perfect!

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    top stuff moe. live to ride, ride to live hey!

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    Moe, I'd love to use your ice shots and maybe a word or two from you about where the photo was taken and what riding on ice was like so I can post it on our website. That's really cool! Not something people see every day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    Moe, I'd love to use your ice shots and maybe a word or two from you about where the photo was taken and what riding on ice was like so I can post it on our website. That's really cool! Not something people see every day!
    Sure! PM sent.

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    I finally remembered to get a pic p of the old Mary SS.
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    Wow! what a nice pic! I might be able to use this one for the website, too. If that's OK, PM me with your name and where the pic was taken.

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    Snow covering the ice this week. But still icy in spots. 5 Deg F.
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    I'll add mine to the bunch here...

    2007 18" Mary SS
    Rampage front tire, Nanoraptor rear
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    Still has the stock BB5 brakes for now but with a 185mm front rotor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genom
    I'll add mine to the bunch here...

    2007 18" Mary SS
    Rampage front tire, Nanoraptor rear
    On One SL carbon fork
    Surly 18T cog
    Still has the stock BB5 brakes for now but with a 185mm front rotor
    Shimano M540 pedals

    Nice! How do you like the carpet fiber fork compared to the oem steel? Handling? Feel? Thanks, Moe

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    The On One fork has more rake over stock so immediately I noticed the bike handled quicker, but not twitchy. The fork also absorbs (to a certain extent) alot of the fine chatter that the steel fork transmits to the handlebars...so the ride is a good deal smoother with the carbon fork. Weight savings is a big plus as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genom
    The On One fork has more rake over stock so immediately I noticed the bike handled quicker, but not twitchy. The fork also absorbs (to a certain extent) alot of the fine chatter that the steel fork transmits to the handlebars...so the ride is a good deal smoother with the carbon fork. Weight savings is a big plus as well.

    So this shortens up the wheelbase right? Any issues with toe overlap?

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    The increased rake of the On One fork reduces trail, quickening the steering...wheelbase is actually a couple mm longer.

    I've had very little toe overlap on the Mary here and there and its usually in tight switchbacks.

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    Here are a couple more that I have.

    Kentucky Camp Trail near Tucson, AZ
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    Fantasy Island in Tucson, AZ
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    Jill you guys can use the pics for the site I really don't care. Would love some stickers or something though to slap on the truck.

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    Simple, elegant, beautiful. I recently moved to D.C. from Boston, and had been lamenting the lack of good technical trails and the heavy, bouncing slog of my Enduro. I've been riding Mary for a few months now and am completely hooked. My Enduro now waits patiently for occasional Gambrill rides (damn rocky there) and Mary gets all the love. I'm completely hooked on the simplicity of the SS and absolutely loving that big 29er roll.

    My Mary is largely stock with a few upgrades: thompson seatpost, WTB laser saddle, ritchie stem (flipped for more rise since this pic), oury grips that would be fine on geared bike but are weak on SS and will soon be replaced with ergons, 32-18T, KMC 810 chain, clipless pedals with platform (forget brand right now).

    My biggest complaint is the BB5s. They are absolutely awful. Wondering if new pads might help, but admit that each ride brings me closer to hyrdaulics.

    Oh, and another favorite thing about Mary: 1/4 the cost of my Enduro. (although to be fair, I bought Enduro new and Mary used).

    Anyhoo.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jefferiah
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    My biggest complaint is the BB5s. They are absolutely awful. Wondering if new pads might help, but admit that each ride brings me closer to hyrdaulics. .
    Welcome to the forums.

    BB5's are excellent for mechanical brakes yet not as good as the BB7's, two things can case the brakes to feel poor.

    1) Not adjusted properly.
    2) you have hydros on your other bike.

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    Welcome to DC. The Mary is still my favorite ride. Brought it to DC from Germany. Just put a vassago fork on it and love the ride. I prefer fast and swoopy to slow techy trails, so I've found Rosaryville in MD, and Laurel Hill in Lorton VA to be rigid SS heaven.

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    I'm in love with Mary and the wifes a bit jealous

    Heres my baby, just a few changes
    Brooks B17, carbon seatpost and clamp, Oury Grips, Shimano LX brakes 180F, 160R, DMR V8 pedals
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    Here's My Mary

    Here's my Mary... (heavyduty'ized for my 250lb self )

    BB7's 185
    Thudbuster ST for my soft butt
    Gordo Rims w/ Chub Hubs and WI freewheel
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    Very nice, that rear hub is HUGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    Very nice, that rear hub is HUGE!
    Yea, but they are supposedly pretty light, like 260g.

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    at last some cool mary's

    here is mine in two configuration's road & mountain
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    Quote Originally Posted by shade13
    here is mine in two configuration's road & mountain
    Ha ha ha! Love the bathtub shot! Mary's a very dirty girl...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Welcome to the forums.

    BB5's are excellent for mechanical brakes yet not as good as the BB7's, two things can case the brakes to feel poor.

    1) Not adjusted properly.
    2) you have hydros on your other bike.

    BB5's do rock... I just have one in the rear but I love it. So easy to stop... Grips everytime.

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    All that ice riding makes Mary a very thirsty girl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    All that ice riding makes Mary a very thirsty girl!
    Thats awesome one for you and one for Mary.
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    Just got this today. My other 29er is in for repairs (Cannondale F29 with a messed up Lefty). So, I wanted a second bike and almost got a road bike but I got Mrs. Mary SS instead...


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    Just chucked on a White Bros RSR fork and a Thomson stem
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    ... and if we just ... green mary

    Heres my new mary with the manitou minute,superlight hasn,t seen much action shes jealous Im only riding the mary latley
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    Nice Green Mary

    How do you like the Manitou minute fork? I am looking at getting one for mine.
    Is it a 100mm or 80?

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    what is the Seat Post diameter for the Mary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked Headtube
    what is the Seat Post diameter for the Mary?
    31.6

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    Finally

    After 3 months, I have finally built up the Mary XC frame that I bought.

    Here are the non-stock parts:
    Avid BB7 brakes
    Mary SS fork
    Cane Creek Frankenstein Headset
    WTB Speed V saddle
    DT Swiss Onyx Hubs with TK 7.1 rims
    Mythos XC II Tires
    Forte SS spacer/ tensioner kit
    FSA V-drive Cranks with 34t SS ring and bashguard

    On my first offroad ride I broke the chain, so something needs to be worked out with that. Otherwise I love it. It is so much different goin from FS to rigid. I can feel every pedal stroke, and the bumps too.
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    Here is the new Mary SS. Picked it up about a few weeks ago. Added the eXotic carbon fork, 520 pedals, flipped the stem and good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genom
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    But why, oh why, has it got a big shim on it as well? That really bummed me out. I hate shims!

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    Random Mary thoughts

    I've had my Haro Mary SS for 2 years now. She's had many different sets of components of these 2 years and she's still my favorite all-time bike.

    For a year I ran Mary with a Rohloff speedhub (pix posted earlier in this thread). That was fun, but it was a bit heavy and I tired of that experiment. I got lots of pinch flats from running lower pressures with that heavy hub on rough terrain. And I didn't like the ride when I pumped the tires up to high pressures. None of this was the fault of Mary, just the components I put on her.

    Last summer I converted her back to a SS with some CK hubs and Stans Flows (baby needs some new shoes!). The passion is back. I absolutely love this bike.

    I ran into DownhillJill at the San Diego Custom Bike show last weekend. I told her I saw some great eye candy while there. There was a sweet TI SS 29er bike in the Kish booth (http://www.kishbike.com/). There was also a beautiful Steel SS 26er with curved seat stays in the Sendero booth (http://senderocycles.blogspot.com/). Both were quite drool worthy. But are they worth spending 1.5 to 3.0 K$ for to upgrade above my Mary? I don't think so. There would definately be some fit improvements going to a full-custom frame over a production frame like Haro. But this Mary frame is just so good that with a few component changes, the fit can be dialed in.

    Just rambling thoughts from a happy Haro customer. I seem to have good company here as there are lots of other happy Mary customers too. Haro nailed the design of the Mary on the first try!

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    It was great to meet you at the show! And I am sincerely happy to hear that your Mary has served you well...and stood her own up against the customs you saw. The person who should be really proud is our former product manager SSMike since he designed the frame. He lurks around the Haro forum from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontheclysdale
    Here's my Mary... (heavyduty'ized for my 250lb self )

    BB7's 185
    Thudbuster ST for my soft butt
    Gordo Rims w/ Chub Hubs and WI freewheel
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    Just picked up my first SS/29er/and Haro all in one shot with my new Mary. I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?

    Also, noticed a lot of eggbeaters on this thread - any suggestions on pedals? I was thinking about switching out to Crank Brothers Mallets - I have them on my other bike and like the versatility.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.....

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    I quoted someone above and my post was stuck in the middle of this thread - forgot that is what happens when you "quote." Problem is - it is never seen.

    I had comment/questions which were:

    Just picked up my first SS/29er/and Haro all in one shot with my new Mary. I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?

    Also, noticed a lot of eggbeaters on this thread - any suggestions on pedals? I was thinking about switching out to Crank Brothers Mallets - I have them on my other bike and like the versatility.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van-Go
    I I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?
    My '07 Mary SS (ginger) take a 31.6mm seatpost. Your seatpost should state its length/width near the bottom it shaft.

    Btw, I'm guessing most use the linear "display mode" and saw your first post. If you're not, try it (a drop down in upper right hand corner).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1
    My '07 Mary SS (ginger) take a 31.6mm seatpost. Your seatpost should state its length/width near the bottom it shaft.

    Btw, I'm guessing most use the linear "display mode" and saw your first post. If you're not, try it (a drop down in upper right hand corner).

    1) Thanks - I'm pretty new to this so I appreciate the directions to the seatpost info. Sorta feel dumb now.

    2) Ah-ha... Switched to "linear". Now I see my posts chronologically - ie. together - which further fortifies my feeling dumb.....

    Thanks on both counts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van-Go
    I quoted someone above and my post was stuck in the middle of this thread - forgot that is what happens when you "quote." Problem is - it is never seen.

    I had comment/questions which were:

    Just picked up my first SS/29er/and Haro all in one shot with my new Mary. I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?

    Also, noticed a lot of eggbeaters on this thread - any suggestions on pedals? I was thinking about switching out to Crank Brothers Mallets - I have them on my other bike and like the versatility.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.....


    You might want to try getting off the saddle for the rough stuff, or what I call "hovering" over it. Lower psi might help also, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNooo
    I've had my Haro Mary SS for 2 years now. She's had many different sets of components of these 2 years and she's still my favorite all-time bike.

    For a year I ran Mary with a Rohloff speedhub (pix posted earlier in this thread). That was fun, but it was a bit heavy and I tired of that experiment. I got lots of pinch flats from running lower pressures with that heavy hub on rough terrain. And I didn't like the ride when I pumped the tires up to high pressures. None of this was the fault of Mary, just the components I put on her.

    Last summer I converted her back to a SS with some CK hubs and Stans Flows (baby needs some new shoes!). The passion is back. I absolutely love this bike.

    I ran into DownhillJill at the San Diego Custom Bike show last weekend. I told her I saw some great eye candy while there. There was a sweet TI SS 29er bike in the Kish booth (http://www.kishbike.com/). There was also a beautiful Steel SS 26er with curved seat stays in the Sendero booth (http://senderocycles.blogspot.com/). Both were quite drool worthy. But are they worth spending 1.5 to 3.0 K$ for to upgrade above my Mary? I don't think so. There would definately be some fit improvements going to a full-custom frame over a production frame like Haro. But this Mary frame is just so good that with a few component changes, the fit can be dialed in.

    Just rambling thoughts from a happy Haro customer. I seem to have good company here as there are lots of other happy Mary customers too. Haro nailed the design of the Mary on the first try!

    I totally agree with you about the Mary, great handling and ride quality. I'm running the Nevegals tubeless on Arch rims and it's better than ever. I did some research on the designer SSMike, he modelled the Mary after the early 90's 26" WTB Phoenix, considered one of the finest trail bikes ever. Absolutely nailed it. If anyone is on the fence about buying this bike, don't hesitate, you won't be dissapointed! Hi Jill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    You might want to try getting off the saddle for the rough stuff, or what I call "hovering" over it. Lower psi might help also, good luck!
    Thank you. I normally do this - just to keep from feeling beat up at rides end. I've heard the lower psi comment a couple times and will try that - I seem to recall someone mentioning 30 for my new bike (may be wrong on that - will review previous posts).

    I am interested in the Cane Creek Thudbuster just to give me some added comfort. Where I ride 90% of the time it is sufficient with roots and ruts - don't want to spend my entire ride "hovering." If anyone has a Thudbuster and can recommend which to get (size, length, etc.) for a Mary I'd appreciate your thoughts.

    While I'm at it - and since many have posted theirs - I will add a photo of my week old baby.....
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    Creaking Clicking noise!!!

    My beautiful Blue Baby has started make a horrible Clicking/Creaking noise sometimes whilst pedaling, thought it was in EBB so pulled crank and greased everything but its still there, think it might be in rear Hub freewheel mechanism, anyone else had this problem?

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    Hunting down sources of creaks on a bike can be tricky. It's often no where it sounds like it's coming from. The most common sources on a steel hardtail like the Mary:

    1) The seat tube. Grease up your seat tube and see if that helps. If you have your seatpost near the maximum extension, consider getting a longer one that will have more contact down the seat tube.

    2) EBB. I wrapped a couple of wraps of the plumbers white teflon tape around the EBB before inserting it into the frame. This keeps it snug and will help eliminate EBB creaks. A lot of people like sliding dropouts just because of EBB creaking, but the teflon tape trick works pretty well to quiet these down.

    3) Headset. Sometimes headset creaks can telegraph down steel pipes and seem like something else. But this is rare.

    4) Weak skewers. If your wheels can move around in the rear drops, then this can telegraph too. But this would be quite noticable so it's also rare.

    5) Frame cracks. If the above maintenance doesn't help, check your frame carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nauticatarcher
    My beautiful Blue Baby has started make a horrible Clicking/Creaking noise sometimes whilst pedaling, thought it was in EBB so pulled crank and greased everything but its still there, think it might be in rear Hub freewheel mechanism, anyone else had this problem?
    I had a near-new ACS freewheel creak like that. Sounded just like the bottom bracket but it was the freewheel. That was on a Surly Pugsley which also has a "back wheel" on the front so it was easy to swap them around to narrow down the problem.

    Another time the creak was from my pedals. The first thing I did was tighten them up with a pedal spanner but the creak was still there. It was only after I took them off the cranks, applied a generous amount of grease and tightened them up again that the noise went away. This was after buying a crank puller and bottom bracket tool as I was sure (again!) it was the BB creaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    I did some research on the designer SSMike, he modelled the Mary after the early 90's 26" WTB Phoenix, considered one of the finest trail bikes ever.
    Seems like someone called Moe told me that the other day

    My LBS doesn't like Haros ... maybe the owner got beat up by a kid on a BMX, hard to say. I didn't really get any details from him, so it seemed pretty subjective.

    Is there a on-line source for Haro bikes, or have they locked down their dealer network?
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    Chainring question

    When I purchased my Mary a couple weeks back one of the last things that was said to me at the LBS is that if I want to run a bigger chainring - and I might b/c the stock is sorta small - come in and we will change it.

    I may be off in my count but I'm figuring the ratio for the stock Mary is 32 X 20.

    Looking at the photos of the mountain bike Mary's on this thread it appears to my naked eye that most owners have kept the stock chainring.

    My riding thus far has suggested to me on flats I'm a little slow and peddling slightly more than I like, uphills are about perfect - as are downhills.

    This suggests to me (very much a novice SS'r) that at best a slight adjustment could be made in chainring size - but, I'm surmising that a small size change will make only a slight difference and isn't worth the trouble.

    Am I wrong? In other words - how much more would you go up in chainring size for it to make a difference?

    Thanks in advance for any reply(ies).

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    Still running standard on mine, sometimes I wish I had a taller gears sometimes lower, but most of the time feels just right, if you want to play around with gearing go buy a geared bike, Life is about compromises and as long as there is a smile on your face dont worry

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    I'm running 34 x 20 on my Mary XC convert and it seems good for where I ride. I was running 32 x 18 on my 26er FS before I got the Mary. the best thing to do would be to play around with the ratios until you get something you really like. Its cheaper to switch out cogs rather than chainrings, then once you find a good ratio, spend some money on a good cog that will last and won't tear up your freewheel/hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van-Go
    When I purchased my Mary a couple weeks back one of the last things that was said to me at the LBS is that if I want to run a bigger chainring - and I might b/c the stock is sorta small - come in and we will change it.

    I may be off in my count but I'm figuring the ratio for the stock Mary is 32 X 20.

    Looking at the photos of the mountain bike Mary's on this thread it appears to my naked eye that most owners have kept the stock chainring.

    My riding thus far has suggested to me on flats I'm a little slow and peddling slightly more than I like, uphills are about perfect - as are downhills.

    This suggests to me (very much a novice SS'r) that at best a slight adjustment could be made in chainring size - but, I'm surmising that a small size change will make only a slight difference and isn't worth the trouble.

    Am I wrong? In other words - how much more would you go up in chainring size for it to make a difference?

    Thanks in advance for any reply(ies).
    Most folks simply change the rear cog. One tooth difference makes a pretty significant change. It also changes the EBB position, and therefor the fit/geometry. After much tweaking, I found 32/19 with the EBB in the lowest/rearmost position possible (I think I removed a link, then added a half-link) was the best for me. Experimenting with different set-ups can be fun AND educational.

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    Appreciate the comments thus far. I know with SS you're making a committement that you have one speed that will work for you as best as possible on various terrain. I have a geared FS 26er and have rode at fixed settings to get a feel - it has helped but the 29" wheels on the Mary make a difference which I cannot account for. More than anything I was curious about general consensus on the stock Mary - do most people change or no. I suppose it is hard to answer depending on the terrain you ride and not knowing what I mostly ride on. The LBS people just seemed pretty sure I'd want to change out but I'm pretty content....then again, how do I know what other ratios feel like. Guess only one way to find out. For now - I'm thinking I should stand pat. Thanks.

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    Here's mine, that I built up today. Just need to trim the brake lines a bit. Stock (well...) except Thomson stem and post, Salsa Pro moto bars, Avid Elixir R 160/185mm brakes, Spank lock-on grips, Sunline V1 saddle, Shimano P-M520 pedals, FSA Orbit XL-II headset and Intense System 29 tires. I hope it'll be fun. ...And I'll probably build it some new wheels too, just for fun.

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    That's a nice bike. I got mine 3 weeks ago (the green one) and I've never ridden as much as I have with this bike. I love it - great buy.... Have fun with it and good luck....

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    All dressed up.

    Got my Mary XC second hand last year. Technically she's my first mountain bike...and you always remember your first. Fell in love with the bike and the sport instantly. Very confidence inspiring bike. After being forced into using her as my winter commuter this year (not by choice but by bus strike) I decided to dress her up a this year. It came stock except for a tora 318 fork instead of a reba. I stripped her of her gears and put her on a diet. It was tough for her but she likes what she sees.

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    Juicy 7 Brakes
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    SS 32:21 ratio

    I've got her down to a bit under 26lbs without pedals. Not bad for a 6lb frame and 5lb fork.

    Gonna christen the wheels this weekend

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    Bought a 2009 Mary SS and love it, the steel frame is very worth the extra money over the Ally SS....although the Ally is nice, 4130 CroMo really does ride better. Glad that the LBS guys talked me into the Mary instead....even let me test ride their personal bike since the shop didn't have it in stock....great guys! Pics coming.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    I totally agree with you about the Mary, great handling and ride quality. I'm running the Nevegals tubeless on Arch rims and it's better than ever. I did some research on the designer SSMike, he modelled the Mary after the early 90's 26" WTB Phoenix, considered one of the finest trail bikes ever. Absolutely nailed it. If anyone is on the fence about buying this bike, don't hesitate, you won't be dissapointed! Hi Jill!
    X2.

    Quote Originally Posted by nauticatarcher
    Still running standard on mine, sometimes I wish I had a taller gears sometimes lower, but most of the time feels just right, if you want to play around with gearing go buy a geared bike, Life is about compromises and as long as there is a smile on your face dont worry
    X2...and stock gearing seems pretty good for most places that I've ridden it so far. SS gearing is a compromise, but if you want play with it and see. However, sounds like it is pretty good for you. The most important part is the climbs, how much walking do you want to do?
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    Street Mary

    Since I moved back to Berlin, Germany last month I put my Mary now into Street-outfit and use it mainly for commuting to work. It's a lot of fun. Those huge Schwalbe tires are comfortable but damn heavy (close to 2 pounds each). I am still looking for a nicer fender solution, but not a lot fits those 2.3 tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernormal
    Since I moved back to Berlin, Germany last month I put my Mary now into Street-outfit and use it mainly for commuting to work. It's a lot of fun. Those huge Schwalbe tires are comfortable but damn heavy (close to 2 pounds each). I am still looking for a nicer fender solution, but not a lot fits those 2.3 tires.
    Check out the Fat Bikes forum.

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    Mary 1x9 -my 1st build project

    Here are a couple shots of my new Mary 1x9. I have been working on it for awhile and finally was able to take her out this morning. It was awesome! Thanks to everyone on the forum who has been helping out, especially PatSS who has answered a million questions since I started the project. Building the bike has been almost as fun as riding it.






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    She's a dirty girl!

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    Yes, she has been a lot of fun to ride. I was not sure if it was all 29er hype going into the project, but have come to appreciate the difference in the ride between it and my Flightline. Both are awesome bikes and I try to ride them equally.

    I am running 2.1 Motos on the front and rear of the Mary. Although it is spec'd for 2.25 Nevegals I rubbed paint from the inside of the upper seat stays and on the left chain stay. I am guessing this is from the mud trapped there on some really wet rides. Anyone else have a similar experience? I attempted a color match using Tequila Sunrise nail polish and Ford Chrome Yellow touch up paint. Its close enough and gave me a pause for reflection from those HS art classes many years ago.
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    It must be from mud, the Mary was designed to be run with bigger tires then the Gals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    It must be from mud, the Mary was designed to be run with bigger tires then the Gals.
    Yes and/or QR not tight enough. On today's ride a friend (who weighs a few more pounds than I) borrowed my Mary for a few minutes and after doing a stoppy (nose wheelie) my front wheel was cocked in the forks. Re-positiioned the wheel and tIghtened up the QR a bit more. Stock QRs on it have the nylon piece under the lever which makes it difficult to get them really nice and tight. May have to replace them with something better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedogz
    Yes and/or QR not tight enough. On today's ride a friend (who weighs a few more pounds than I) borrowed my Mary for a few minutes and after doing a stoppy (nose wheelie) my front wheel was cocked in the forks. Re-positiioned the wheel and tIghtened up the QR a bit more. Stock QRs on it have the nylon piece under the lever which makes it difficult to get them really nice and tight. May have to replace them with something better.
    Shimano QR's are awesome either the XT or XTR.
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    I am very interested in getting a 29r SS. I was initially looking at the GT Peace but the more I research the Haro Mary SS the more I like it. Now I need to decide on the colour. The green looks good but it is hard to tell what the blue looks like. it seems to look different in every shot, HA! It does look cool either way. What is the going price for a 2009? Any deals out there or good used?
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    I saw the blue at my LBS and it is a really sweet color. If I was going SS I would get the blue. Its more of a Carolina (light) blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gap_rider
    I saw the blue at my LBS and it is a really sweet color. If I was going SS I would get the blue. Its more of a Carolina (light) blue.
    Yeah, I am leaning toward blue myself. I like the contrast of the blue with black tires/forks. $899 at LBS, be nice to get it on sale, HA! We will see when I can get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Shimano QR's are awesome either the XT or XTR.
    Thanks, I'll check em out! The dang Giant QR seatpost clamp that I bought has a nylon washer under the lever and it is hard to get it tight enough that my seatpost doesn't slowly sink into the seat tube.....but it was all they had in stock.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeephead
    Yeah, I am leaning toward blue myself. I like the contrast of the blue with black tires/forks. $899 at LBS, be nice to get it on sale, HA! We will see when I can get one.
    That is a good deal, buy it if you like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Shimano QR's are awesome either the XT or XTR.
    So, looks like I need 135mm rear and 100mm front? XT760/765 is good or are there other versions (color schemes or?) of the Shimano XT skewers?

    ANybody buy from this place before?

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    New Mary SS 18"...



    I was torn between the 18" and 20" size, ( too low vs. too long) but the 18" fits just and just with the stock seatpost. It's above the minimum insertion mark, but still goes to the seat tube the same depth as the shim... Any seatpost that goes below the shim is meaningless, am I right?

    Changed the 20t sprocket to 18t right away, and it feels good that way. The Nevagals must be the slowest tires I've ever had, going to change them to Racing Ralph soon... 185mm rotor also coming to front.

    I'm 6ft with 92cm inseam btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plussa
    The Nevagals must be the slowest tires I've ever had, going to change them to Racing Ralph soon...
    I love those Nevegals. If you want to sell them send me a PM.

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    Looks just like my mary!

    I just picked one up from the shop I work at,and i cant ride it nearly enough!
    Ive been out 5 days in a row, the bike feels amazing. The only change made so far is Ergon GX1 grips, the WTBs are too hard, and kill my hands in technical terrain.
    Loving Mary!!!!

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    Changed the front rotor to 185 mm and tires to Racing Ralph 2.4" Evo with 26" latex tubes... feels a LOT faster, and one-finger endos are no problem now.

    The bike lost a whopping 1,23lb of rotating mass, and it really feels. Total weight is now 26,4 with pedals.

    I'm not really sure which one I like better, my 26" SS AM HT with 5" fork or this one.. but there's just something about Mary...
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    My Mary SS

    My Mary SS...got it about 2 weeks ago...
    Added Sunline V1 bar, Thomson stem, Chris King headset, Thomson post, Sunline V1 saddle, Hope quick release, Shimano M540 clipless, ESI chunky grips...Got some BB7's I need to throw on...
    Its fun! Very different from my Santa Cruz Blur LT
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    Changed the bars to On-One Fleegle with color matching Oury grips, and saddle to On-One bignose. The stock saddle felt too short to my tastes.

    Love the fleegle bars! Superwide and very aggressive riding position now, with lots of drop from saddle to bars. Looks cool too.



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    I am patiently waiting for the 2010's to come out. I am hoping that the new curved top tube will give me enough stand over on a 16". The current model is awesome, but just a tad to high in the s.o. department.

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    Here is mine with a Reba set to 100mm, loving it.


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    So the new Haro catalog is out. The Mary SS will indeed be Black and purple. The stand over is the same as the out going model at 30.8. I can't wait until they become available to try it out because the bent top tube must add some additional groin clearance even if it isn't reflected in the spec sheet numbers. The Mary also looks much better in the catalog picture than it does in the pic posted on here earlier.

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    Here's a few of my Mary... She's only 2 days old now and has about 30 miles on her. All I have changed out is the pedals to Crank Brother Eggbeaters.








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    Dang! Removed the previous post's photos from Flickr and can't edit the post. Here's a new pic with Fleegle bars:

    I love riding those pitkospuut around our local swamp area - one mistake and you will go otb head first into a swamphole!
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    I like the flat bar look much better than the on-one mary bars. I am sure those that ride with them have a different take.
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    What differences did you notice in the switch of the bars?
    Did you change the stem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhc
    What differences did you notice in the switch of the bars?
    Did you change the stem?
    I didn't like the mary bars because they're too high and too narrow to my tastes. I have 685mm bars in my 26" bike and the 717mm width feels equally good for 29" wheels. The stem is original, but I did have to put the spacers back below the stem to compensate the height.

    Lower and wider front end gives even better cornering and more aggressive feel. And with Rebas in the front, the tire just stays glued to the trail...

    I'd suggest fleegle bars to any of you who have flipped the the original stem upside down.
    And yes, they look cooler too.

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    Heres My 09 mary SS
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    Mine before I moved to Phoenix.



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    Mine updated with new Stan's ZTR 355 / Hope Pro II wheelset:


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    Quote Originally Posted by plussa
    Mine updated with new Stan's ZTR 355 / Hope Pro II wheelset:
    How do you like the Nevegal/Racing Ralph combi? How does it work in wet conditions?
    I thought about running the same....
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernormal
    How do you like the Nevegal/Racing Ralph combi? How does it work in wet conditions?
    I thought about running the same....
    Thanks!
    The Racing Ralph is not the best tire for wet conditions, but the 2,4" version at 28 psi still has enough grip to climb the local autumn trails that are covered with fallen wet leaves and pine needles. I just hate how slow the Nevagal rolls, so I kept the RR rear. (Had it front and rear during summer)

    There are lots of bare wet roots too, and the Nevagal Stick-E does a great job as a front tire at 24 psi.

    Sometimes the RR slips when cornering, but it's just more fun that way...
    I think I'll have to change a Nevagal rear too when the snow falls, to get more grip.

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    Mary, Oh Mary!

    Hi everyone, read this forum time and again when working out what SS to buy. Have a Marin Mount vision that I didn't want to ride to work and finally plumped on a brand new Mary after searching for ages. Got it from eBay for 240 delivered...... bargain!

    Since then I've pimped it lots. FSA stem and bars, Oury grips, Shimano SPD, Specialized Borough Tyres (for the commute).

    Next up is On-One carbon forks my missus has got me for Xmas and I guess I'll have to do something with the brakes, but not sure which route to go down yet..... any suggestions. I like the simplicity of the mechanicals, but not sure BB7's would be anywhere near hyraulics. Got a 16t Surly cog being fitted at my LBS tom.

    Love the forum. Keep the posts going. I am 100% a Haro Mary fan now and love SS. Just put my full suss up on eBay I like it that much!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rwillia2
    Hi everyone, read this forum time and again when working out what SS to buy. Have a Marin Mount vision that I didn't want to ride to work and finally plumped on a brand new Mary after searching for ages. Got it from eBay for 240 delivered...... bargain!

    Since then I've pimped it lots. FSA stem and bars, Oury grips, Shimano SPD, Specialized Borough Tyres (for the commute).

    Next up is On-One carbon forks my missus has got me for Xmas and I guess I'll have to do something with the brakes, but not sure which route to go down yet..... any suggestions. I like the simplicity of the mechanicals, but not sure BB7's would be anywhere near hyraulics. Got a 16t Surly cog being fitted at my LBS tom.

    Love the forum. Keep the posts going. I am 100% a Haro Mary fan now and love SS. Just put my full suss up on eBay I like it that much!


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    Congratz and welcome to the Haro forum!!!

    CF fork will be a Awesome Xmas present.

    Allot of the SS guys really like the BB7 for some reason. If hydros are your future check out the Hayes Stroker Trails, my personal favorites.

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    Forgot to post my pic...this is from last Spring when she was new, sporting EA50 bars (trimmed up the brake cables to fit this bar better), Ergon grips, WTB Devo saddle and all stock otherwise:

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    Currently running reversed rear tire for better climbing, WTB Speed V saddle, Easton EA 50 Lo-Rise bars, Lizard Skin Charger lock-on grips, 90mm leftover Specialized stem, spare Spec rear skewer (bent my stocker in a crash), and Crank Brothers Candy pedals....love Mary SS!

    Only other thing I'm looking to change is a faster rolling 2.2 or 2.3 front tire that is better on hardpack and loose over hardpack (Geax Saguaro?) and some better brakes that require less finger effort in the gnar sections (BB7? I like the mechanical simplicity but not sure they will be good enough.) Got Juicy 3.5s on my hardtail and they are great, but make alot of noise when the rotors get wet....the Avid turkey warble/gobble noise which is quite annoying even though they still stop well.

    Tire and brake suggestions please.....just no tubeless and no high-end expensive brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedogz
    Tire and brake suggestions please......
    The BB7s work great for me. I have thought about a larger rotor on the front, but my current 160mm set up has plenty of stopping power so..... no upgrade if it ain't broken. There is a lot to recommend the simplicity of good mechanical brakes.
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    Gap_rider, Agree on the rotor size, plus the smaller rotors don't get bent on trail obstacles as easy. Ordered one BB7 caliper w/pads to try on the rear, going to keep using the roundagon rotors as they don't seem quite as prone to the turkey gobble when wet. Really dislike the Avid floating washer mounts but guess I'll deal with it...getting the caliper lined up properly and the two bolts tightened without it moving is a real PITA.

    Also hope to have a 2010 WTB Weirwolf 29x2.55 to try on the front by next week. The stock Nevegals work good in the rear (reverse rotation) for good climbing even in the loose or mud, but the front washes out too easily on hardpack and loose over hardpack which is most of my trails.

    Yes the simplicity of the Mary has kept me from trying my Reba or hydro brakes on her....so far.

    Only problem so far is my crank bolt broke, the hollow aluminum one that holds the left crank on...replaced it with a steel one leftover around the LBS. Came loose after that, so I had to clean the grease off the threads, and torque it to spec with blue Loctite...so far so good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedogz
    Gap_rider, Agree on the rotor size, plus the smaller rotors don't get bent on trail obstacles as easy. Ordered one BB7 caliper w/pads to try on the rear, going to keep using the roundagon rotors as they don't seem quite as prone to the turkey gobble when wet. Really dislike the Avid floating washer mounts but guess I'll deal with it...getting the caliper lined up properly and the two bolts tightened without it moving is a real PITA.

    Only problem so far is my crank bolt broke, the hollow aluminum one that holds the left crank on...replaced it with a steel one leftover around the LBS. Came loose after that, so I had to clean the grease off the threads, and torque it to spec with blue Loctite...so far so good.
    If you hold the lever tight, the caliper doesn't move when you tighten the bolts....

    And make sure the bolt for the Stylo is installed in the correct way (I can't remember which way is right.) One way is prone to loosening. The new Stylos don't have this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedogz
    plus the smaller rotors don't get bent on trail obstacles as easy.........getting the caliper lined up properly and the two bolts tightened without it moving is a real PITA.

    ......................Came loose after that, so I had to clean the grease off the threads, and torque it to spec with blue Loctite...so far so good.
    Had not really thought about the larger rotors being more susceptible to bending on the trail. Good point! I read somewhere that the problem with the self extracting bolt on the Stylo was chronic over-tightening. When torqued according to specs everything was cool. I have not had any problems with mine since installation. I even dissasembled my BB to clean out the mess I had made by shooting WD40 down the seat tube to dry it out, reassembled it and torqued it to specs and it still holds tightly. We will wait to see if I have issues with the installation on my son's bike.
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    My Mary is still kickin'!

    Since it is now a commuter and my XC bike, it's now a dinglespeed.

    32/20 for off road
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    White Bro's RSR forks, Ritchey Streem saddle, Salsa bars, stem, and chainrings. I just need a Salsa post now..
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    how do you move the chain over? do you loosen the ebb and retighten it after? that's a sweet setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssm-gd3
    how do you move the chain over? do you loosen the ebb and retighten it after? that's a sweet setup.
    drop the wheel and move it over.

    the pic shows the chain tension on the "slacker" ratio without adjusting the EBB. ideally you would tighten it up but it's quite safe to ride without adjusting the EBB.

    i've never had as much fun on a bike, and it's the simplest bike i've owned! go figure..

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    What are some of your Mary's weighing in at? I'm in the market and Mary is looking pretty good, for a 29er SS.
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    But that is without the stock wheels, brakes, pedals,and seatpost. Nanoraptors for tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plussa
    Mine updated with new Stan's ZTR 355 / Hope Pro II wheelset:

    Are those roundagon rotors with more holes drilled in them?
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    Ok, here is my Mary SS. Bought it secondhand at a good price. It was originally blue but had been spraypainted black. I got it custom powdercoated metallic copper. DHJ had sent me a Haro headbadge, but on a lark I told my mother-in-law about custom headbadges and she had one made for me for Christmas. I use this almost strictly as my commuter although I'll also use it on bike paths with my wife when she rides. I'm just too much of a wimp to go rigid fork on trails!






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    shockfinder, that is a pretty sick paint job very nice!

    I've posted here a few times, I'm looking to get a 2009 Mary ss soon so hopefully I'll have some images up over the next month or so.
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    sweet ride. the custom headbadge is cool. wish i could justify the bling, but i need a new fork and tires on the 26er to be race worthy, got a ss frame i want to build, pedals for the road bike, and the list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gap_rider
    sweet ride. the custom headbadge is cool. wish i could justify the bling, but i need a new fork and tires on the 26er to be race worthy, got a ss frame i want to build, pedals for the road bike, and the list goes on.
    I wouldn't have ever gotten it myself, but my mother-in-law likes to get stuff for us that we want but wouldn't get ourselves. She wouldn't want to get brakes, etc., so a headbadge it was. I'm just telling everyone I have a custom 29er

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    certainly gives it the look. awesome addition to an already cool bike!
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    shockfinder.....ride that thing on trails!! I used to have the same fears with my Mary, but when I overhauled my Nomad I rode it! The 29 inch wheels ride over anything, its sooooo fun! Try it, your skills will improve as well! I can ride any trail on my Mary, no problem!

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    upgraded the bike a lot, but am very impressed with the way it rips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio
    upgraded the bike a lot, but am very impressed with the way it rips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio
    upgraded the bike a lot, but am very impressed with the way it rips.
    Are you running your Reba at 80 or 100mm?

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    thanks dog!

    fork is set at 100mm.

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    Hello,
    I desperately want a 29er. Till lately I was larking at the kona Unit thread. Now I'm also considering Mary SS which I've found at a good price -2008 stock- considerably lower than the new Unit. My only concern about Mary is the very short head tube and the small welding area; it seems weak. I am posting two photos, the right one is from Unit 19" frame size (this would be the size for me if I chose it) and the left from Mary 18" frame size (unfortunately there is no 19").



    The head tube length of the Unit is 12cm (for the 19"); what is the length of the head tube of the Mary? (no info about head tube length at the haro site)
    I am 6 feet tall like Pulsa and if I end up with Mary I think I will need many spacers or a riser bar, to have the desired high.
    It's kind of urgent so I would appreciate a swift reply.
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    I wouldn't worry about the head tube lengths. There aren't any threads about Haro head tubes breaking off so I think you are fine. I personally prefer shorter head tubes since the front of a 29'er is already quite high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubthang
    I wouldn't worry about the head tube lengths. There aren't any threads about Haro head tubes breaking off so I think you are fine. I personally prefer shorter head tubes since the front of a 29'er is already quite high.
    X2....as long as the fit (mostly top tube effective length) is good and the overall bike fit feels good then buy it. I'm 6'2" 190lbs on 20" 2009 Mary SS and love it. You should try the 20 before buying the 18 just in case. I run EA50 mid-rise bars and 90mm stem (didn't like the Mary bars) with alll spacers under the stem and it is good fit. Good luck.
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    Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately I cannot try it, no 29ers in my country (Greece). I'll have to purchase on line. The shipping cost is 60 €
    so if I don't like the size I will have to pay 60x3=180 € plus . not a bargain anymore.
    The reason for considering the 18" is because of Plussa's -same height as me- posts and the fact that I like the more sloping effect of a smaller frame with more stand-over clearance.

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    The 19 Kona has the same SO as the 20 Mary 33" and the Mary is slightly longer on the TT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    The 19 Kona has the same SO as the 20 Mary 33" and the Mary is slightly longer on the TT.
    Kona Unit 20" SO is 33", and 19" is 32.1" I double checked it. (their geometry table is a bit )
    Mary 20" SO is 33" and 18" is 31.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selin
    Kona Unit 20" SO is 33", and 19" is 32.1" I double checked it. (their geometry table is a bit )
    Mary 20" SO is 33" and 18" is 31.8.
    Otay I just relooked the relook and yup I was reading the wrong lines on the Kona site.

    If your 6" depending on body your smack in the middle of frame sizes, 19-20". Im 5'7" which slips me into a 16-17", my riding is mostly AM/FR/DH/Pump Track and hate to climb because it reminds me of work. For the riding I do the 16 or 16.5 is the size I go for looking at flickabality and fun over death climbs and technical tight switch backs otherwise the 17 would be a better XC fit for me.

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    My Mary SS

    Here's my recently purchased Mary SS. Mostly scavanged parts from the garage to lighten her up a bit. S-Works Fast Track (2.0) and Captain (2.2) are the most recent updgrades along with some blingy gold ano chainring bolts. I've still yet to get it out on a real ride due to weather...hopefully soon!






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    Very well done with spare parts floxy but that stem bar combo is interesting.
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    Ya, its a bit goofy. It came with a 120mm stem which was too long. I had a 100mm laying around with about a 15mm rise and flipped it upside down. I really like the bars and that combo was the only way to get the fit where I want it. We'll see how it rides. With those bars and the 120mm stem it looked like a hybrid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by floxy
    Ya, its a bit goofy. It came with a 120mm stem which was too long. I had a 100mm laying around with about a 15mm rise and flipped it upside down. I really like the bars and that combo was the only way to get the fit where I want it. We'll see how it rides. With those bars and the 120mm stem it looked like a hybrid!
    Ya gots ta do what ya gots ta do when rummaging the spare parts, kinda created a 1/4" riser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selin
    Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately I cannot try it, no 29ers in my country (Greece). I'll have to purchase on line. The shipping cost is 60 €
    so if I don't like the size I will have to pay 60x3=180 € plus . not a bargain anymore.
    The reason for considering the 18" is because of Plussa's -same height as me- posts and the fact that I like the more sloping effect of a smaller frame with more stand-over clearance.
    Have you seen this comment in another Thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by jvm051
    On Friday I had a unfortunate run in with a large rock that bent the rear of my bike rendering the frame useless. So after selling off all the parts, I went into a local bike shop where they had 09 Mary SS on closeout for $499. Call it a impulse buy but I had enough money in my pocket from the parts sale so I picked up one with a 20in frame. I am around 6ft or 6ft 1in with a 34 inseam. My Stumpjumper is a Large so I figured this would be the correct size, but after getting the bike home it looks huge. Maybe its just the wheels, but just wanted to know from those of you with seat time on the Mary if I should be ok. From the Haro website, it looks like the changed the 10' models with a sloping top tube. Also those of you with the On-One handelbar, how do you like it.
    and then

    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    You are sort of in between 2 sizes...it will boil down to whether you prefer a little longer top tube as opposed to a shorter one and if the difference in standover doesn't bother you. If you are 6'1", I'd probably recommend the 20" size for you based on what some of the guys here in the office ride and based on feedback we've had from people at our demo days.

    Yeah, it's no suprise that the Mary might look huge to you...29ers do look like really big bikes when you put them up against a 26" wheel bike!
    my 2cents I worry more about stand over height than reach. To a small extent reach (top tube length) can be adjusted with stem length, handle bar bend and set back seat posts. Measure your current bike and pick the new bike most like that perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Otay I just relooked the relook and yup I was reading the wrong lines on the Kona site.

    If your 6" depending on body your smack in the middle of frame sizes, 19-20".
    I'm 6'1" and ride 18" in both my 26er Flightline and Mary. I ride XC w/ climbing and flowing single track. My road bike is a 58cm with more or less the same toptube as the Mary. As everyone has said up to this point you can make minor cockpit adjustments w/ stem, bars and setback on the seat post. I would much rather be a little small on the frame w/ the 18" and extend the reach with the stem. I'm running the 110mm stem on my MTBs, but a 90mm on the road bike. Took me a while to figure out that the fit is totally different on the bikes. Overall I have come to appreciate bike fit is a process of trial and error experimentation rather than a metric followed blindly. Hope this is helpful. Good luck!
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    anyone have geometry charts for the 08/09 Mary SS ?
    The new ones have changed frames.
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    No 2010 Marys?

    I'm lusting for Mary after reading this entire thread. I have an opportunity to buy a 2007 ginger or a 2010 black. The 2010 is about 300 bucks higher. Both are lightly used and bone stock. I know the 2010 has a different frame, and I noticed that no one posted about a 2010 at all. Is there something wrong with the 2010?

    Also, I've never ridden a 29er of anykind, including a single speed. I am currently on a Trek 8000 21". Am I a dummy for impulse buying a Mary 20" over the web based purely on reviews and widespread praise?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankin
    I'm lusting for Mary after reading this entire thread. I have an opportunity to buy a 2007 ginger or a 2010 black. The 2010 is about 300 bucks higher. Both are lightly used and bone stock. I know the 2010 has a different frame, and I noticed that no one posted about a 2010 at all. Is there something wrong with the 2010?

    Also, I've never ridden a 29er of anykind, including a single speed. I am currently on a Trek 8000 21". Am I a dummy for impulse buying a Mary 20" over the web based purely on reviews and widespread praise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankin
    I'm lusting for Mary after reading this entire thread. I have an opportunity to buy a 2007 ginger or a 2010 black. The 2010 is about 300 bucks higher. Both are lightly used and bone stock. I know the 2010 has a different frame, and I noticed that no one posted about a 2010 at all. Is there something wrong with the 2010?

    Also, I've never ridden a 29er of anykind, including a single speed. I am currently on a Trek 8000 21". Am I a dummy for impulse buying a Mary 20" over the web based purely on reviews and widespread praise?

    Thanks!

    I would probably spring for the 2010. I know the 2007 frames were the first year of the Mary and had some durability issues with the frames around the seat tube. Don't ask me how I know.

    If you like XC riding in general, I believe you will not be sorry with the impulse buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankin
    Am I a dummy for impulse buying a Mary 20" over the web based purely on reviews and widespread praise?

    Thanks!
    not really, thats what I did.

    its the best bang for the buck 29er SS

    bought mine new for $600
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    Bought mine on impulse and never regretted it for one minute, never rode my fs ever again. My friend tried my Mary (1x9) and he got one also. Be sure to get the right frame size.

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    All good replies, but I'm still curious if anyone knows of any downfalls of the new 2010 frame. I'm getting anxious, there aren't very many of these sweet mamas around, especially in 20".

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan55
    not really, thats what I did.

    its the best bang for the buck 29er SS

    bought mine new for $600
    x2 but paid about $900 plus tax...one of my best ever impulse buys!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by crankin
    All good replies, but I'm still curious if anyone knows of any downfalls of the new 2010 frame. I'm getting anxious, there aren't very many of these sweet mamas around, especially in 20".

    Thanks!
    none that I've heard of...buy the one that u like best. I love my green metallic 2009, but the black and purple 2010 looks sweet too.
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    I also bought mine (2008 in carolina blue) two months ago from internet for 420 plus shipping. I also have an alu 26' hardtail but the 29' rigid ss mary is a far more enjoyable ride . Although I can not comment on reliability or durability - only time will tell.

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    I did it!

    I jumped head first into unknown waters...never ridden or ever seen Mary in person, but I snatched up a 2010 today over the phone.

    She should be here in a couple of days. It's of course partially disassembled to fit in a shipping box so I'll have to put the headset in. I've never put in a headset before...any tips?

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    Headset will likely be in already...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leethal
    Headset will likely be in already...

    Yeah, I would have thought so too, but the guy at the bike shop said that they pull the fork to fit into a small shipping box. I asked if I could do the install myself and he told me its best to let a pro do it. I called my LBS and they told me it would be 45 bucks to install the head set and adjust the brakes. I'm pretty mechanically inclined so I'd like to do it myself as long as it doesn't take any special tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankin
    Yeah, I would have thought so too, but the guy at the bike shop said that they pull the fork to fit into a small shipping box. I asked if I could do the install myself and he told me its best to let a pro do it. I called my LBS and they told me it would be 45 bucks to install the head set and adjust the brakes. I'm pretty mechanically inclined so I'd like to do it myself as long as it doesn't take any special tools.
    If your new to wrenching on MTB's I would pay the LBS the $45 so you can go ride. You will have to do adjustments as components seat in plus it will give you a idea on the LBS abilities as mechanics and responsibility. The headset does take a special tool, I have 2X4 hammered many in the last 15+ years but dont recommend it. Here are a couple sites to help you in your new thrill.

    http://www.parktool.com/repair/

    http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/fix/index.htm

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    Thanks dogonfr, great links!

    I'm not really new to wrenching on bikes, the components on my year '00 Trek 8000 are failing one by one and I've been buying replacements and installing them for years. I actually did pull the headset to clean and lube it a few years ago. I put it back in (don't recall how) and has worked fine ever since...maybe I got lucky. As a mechanical engineer I'd like to think luck wasn't a factor but that was before everyone suggested its a job for the pro's.

    Actually this is the reason I started searching for single speeds! I'm sick of tuning derailers. I actually broke my rear derailer about a week ago climbing a long steep hill. My chain was pretty tired for a year or so but finally gave up under the extra load. The splayed broken link grabbed the derailer and wrapped it around the cassette. Not knowing what was happening I cranked until I had destroyed the derailer and its hanger. Its all fixed up now, just need to fall in love with Mary so I can sell it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankin
    Thanks dogonfr, great links!

    I'm not really new to wrenching on bikes, the components on my year '00 Trek 8000 are failing one by one and I've been buying replacements and installing them for years. I actually did pull the headset to clean and lube it a few years ago. I put it back in (don't recall how) and has worked fine ever since...maybe I got lucky. As a mechanical engineer I'd like to think luck wasn't a factor but that was before everyone suggested its a job for the pro's.

    Actually this is the reason I started searching for single speeds! I'm sick of tuning derailers. I actually broke my rear derailer about a week ago climbing a long steep hill. My chain was pretty tired for a year or so but finally gave up under the extra load. The splayed broken link grabbed the derailer and wrapped it around the cassette. Not knowing what was happening I cranked until I had destroyed the derailer and its hanger. Its all fixed up now, just need to fall in love with Mary so I can sell it!
    LoL that explains the crankin name " I cranked until I had destroyed the derailer and its hanger".

    You should know better than to admit being an engineer.

    You at least admitted in so many words that you dont want to deal with gears, your awesome!!! Mary is a sweet heart and is open to smooth lasting relationships. You found a good girl.
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    Wow, I've been on utahmountainbiking.com non-stop since my last post. What a great site; thanks again dogonfr....I think. I am getting ready to order a bunch of cool tools and gadgets possibly including a repair stand. After reading all of the great "how to" articles I'm very motivated to tackle some of the more intimidating stuff. That's one of the curses of being an engineer...I'll buy 250 bucks worth of tools and spend countless hours in the garage doing something the LBS could get done while I wait for 50 bucks.

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    That site is kinda old but the way its written is very understandable to all. I grew up around motos as a wrench since '78 so as you my blood flows mechanical challenge. Check out Spadout they are a price search company making buying tools and upgrades keeping the smile on your face and a few extra buxs in your pocket.
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    You don't need special tools

    You don't need to buy special tools. Take a second look at this thread:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=1190007
    I replaced two forks -and the one headset- with these "tools" and they work great. And for the crown race if it is not already placed, you will need a PVC tube.

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    She's Here!

    Arrived today all torn down. The headset was installed but the fork and stem were loosened and spun around backwards. I just had to realign the fork and tighten the head, air up the tires, adjust the brakes and mount the pedals. Its storming right now, but I snuck in a 5 minute test ride between downpours.

    First impressions:

    Frame fits me like a glove. I'm 6'4" with a 34" inseam, 205lbs. Ton's of room but no disconnected or reaching feeling.

    Great ride for a rigid. I really can't call it rigid after riding my 8000 for 10 years. Steel is sweet! I've got the tires (Kenda Nevagals) at about 33 lbs right now.

    The gearing seems a bit low, but I'm sure its because I was only on flat pavement.

    Brakes seems a little weak for these big wheels. The V-brakes on my other bike are quite a bit stronger. I'm hoping they'll get better as I burn the factory oily film off of them.

    The stock Ritchie bars with WTP grips are nice. The bars seem strong yet supple and the grips have a nice palm swell that fills my hand a little. They seem to take a lot of pressure off the outside edges of my hands.

    Color, well, it's pink. Yes the bike is black but the trim is hot pink. It looks darker in pictures than it actually is. My dirty little secret: I really like it. The bike is so sinister looking with the black all over and the monster tires that the little bit of pink balances it out.

    So far she's a keeper. I'm keeping my Trek for now too. I'm not sure Mary is fast enough for a cross town commute. More to come when I get some hours on her.

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