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    02-05 Extreme shock interchangeability

    Did the earlier Extremes (02-03) run the same stroke and i2i as the 04 and 05 5/6" travel versions of the Extreme?

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    No. 2002 and 2003 Extremes had a 190 eye-to-eye length. 2004 Extremes were 200mm; 2005 Extreme X1 and X2 used 200mm; the X3 used 240mm.

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    Thanks Jill! I was looking at picking up a different shock, but the measurements seemed off based upon the frame it was coming from. That explains why. The 05 X3 was longer stroke too, correct?, but the 02-04 and 05 x1 and X2s were all 2" stroke? If so, what are your thoughts on running a 190mm i2i shock on an 05 x1? It would bring the rear wheel .375" closer to the seat tube at rest and at full compression in either the 5 or 6" mode correct? This would be compared to the .625 closer a 200mm x 2.25"stroke shock would put the tire at max travel in the 5" mode which is rumored to work without rubbing; and .750" closer at max travel in the 6" mode which does seem to rub with certain tires/rider experiences.

    The reason I was asking was not because I can't find the 200mm i2i shock, but because in theory, the shorter shock would slack the bike out a little, drop the standover, and lower the BB height a touch. Normally, I could just mount a 200mm shock without a coil on the bike, and take some measurements at various travel settings and positions, then add in the .375 difference and know what would happen. But my frame disassembled for powdercoating, and I didn't want to miss the opportunity to snatch up the shorter i2i shock if it would work. Any further insight or measurements between the tire and seat tube on an 05 x1 with the shock completely bottomed,noting the tire make/model/size, would be greatly appreciated.

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    It will likely cause your tire to buzz the seatpost even with such a short distance. You really need to stick with a 200mm eye-to-eye length.

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    Thanks Jill!

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    190mm i2i doesnt really work...

    i measured that... it doesnt work. it probably would with a 24 wheel, but that would put the rear end too low, spoiling geometry and hitting pedals on stuff...

    6 inch mode - bumper not compressed, tire hiting the frame already!!!





    5 inch mode



    Darn pinkbike virtual stickers...

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    Thanks for the pics. That definitely puts an end to that. I snagged a 5th w/2" stroke a couple of days ago, so I'm going to play around with the bike in 5" mode (so I don't have to run such a stiff spring to overcome the 6" mode leverage ratio) and dial in some end of stroke compression dampening to add progressivity to compensate for lack of travel.

    For those looking, Santa Cruz has some Swinger 3 way Airs in the appropriate i2i and stroke on their $99 shock blowout page.

    Chris

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    Shock Positions

    Can someone confirm which shock position = which travel length?

    I have a 2nd hand repainted 04 X3, I thought the bottom position was for 5" travel?

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    Top hole is for 5", bottom hole is for 6".

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