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    what is the difference between Giant XC-1 and Giant XC-2 rims

    Giant doesn't have any technical staff that you can call and refer that you ask the question to an authorized sales staff at one of their stores or dealers.

    The only problem is that I asked the question at 3 different dealers and got 3 different answers.

    So what is the difference between Giant XC-1 and Giant XC-2 rims?

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    XC-1 is 23mm wide
    XC-2 is 19mm wide

    as usual Giant is overachieving with their wheelsets and offering narrow 23mm rims when the industry is moving towards 30mm for good reason, even looser brands like Merida are speccing 29mm rims on their trail bikes

    I wouldn't buy a bike with the XC-2 wheelset at all

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    So I gather that the Canadian Giant bikes are a waste of time. I was looking to get a 2017 Anthem 2 bike, but it is spec'ed with the XC-2 rims. The Anthem 1 that has carbon rims doesn't even give a spec for the rim width.

    It is rather pathetic that there is no listing on the Giant web site for sizes of these parts. So far I have gotten that the XC-2 is just a lighter rim for racing, or that XC-2 is the Canadian part number and that it was a typo in the spec and the rims on the Anthem is really XC-1. Now I get that it's the width of the rim. That makes more sense, and might tie in with the first response as a thinner rim might weigh less.

    So why does 30mm rims make more sense and are far better to own??

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill401 View Post
    So why does 30mm rims make more sense and are far better to own??
    educate yourself with this 6 year old article:

    https://m.pinkbike.com/news/Tech-Tue...res-Burp-.html

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    If the ETRTO on the rim is 23, is that the inner width or outer width?

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    it's always the inner width. The outer with is not a relevant number and only used to confuse people (with great success)

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    I have a 2017 Giant Anthem 2 and rim says ETRTO 584x23
    I think for 2017 they widened the XC-2 rim.

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    Yes, newer rims are wider.
    XC-1 for 2017/18 is 27mm IIRC.

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    The carbon rims on the 2018 Anthems and Trances are 35 mm wide. The width of the aluminum rims isn't specified, as far as I could see, though it wouldn't be surprising if they were wider, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeler View Post
    The carbon rims on the 2018 Anthems and Trances are 35 mm wide.
    right but Giant usually states external width not internal which is pretty misleading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    right but Giant usually states external width not internal which is pretty misleading
    Good point. What is the internal width likely to be for a carbon rim with an external width of 35 mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinCRO View Post
    Yes, newer rims are wider.
    XC-1 for 2017/18 is 27mm IIRC.
    I have read everywhere else my 2017 Giant Trance 2 with XC1 has 23mm rims. I would take my tire off and measure but don't want to deal with the sealant and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He1enKe1ler View Post
    I have read everywhere else my 2017 Giant Trance 2 with XC1 has 23mm rims. I would take my tire off and measure but don't want to deal with the sealant and everything.
    no need to take the tire off, 584x23 is written on the rim

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeler View Post
    Good point. What is the internal width likely to be for a carbon rim with an external width of 35 mm?
    The TRX 1 wheels are 27 mm inner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinCRO View Post
    Yes, newer rims are wider.
    XC-1 for 2017/18 is 27mm IIRC.
    Just confirmed the below. My 2017 XC1 are 23mm. I am riding with a friend tomorrow that has a 2018 trance 2 with the stock xc1s. I will check his as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    no need to take the tire off, 584x23 is written on the rim
    Thanks. Didn't even realize that. Do you think a 2.5 Minion DHF would be too much on these 23mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He1enKe1ler View Post
    JDidn't even realize that. Do you think a 2.5 Minion DHF would be too much on these 23mm?
    Probably could run them on those rims, but not optimal and probably too much. Your cornering ability would suffer.

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    23mm inner width is fine for tyres 2.5 inch wide and narrower. Wider rims square these tyres off making them handle poorly. Wide for wides sake is not very clever. All the more established wheel manufacturers are sticking to ERTO rim sizing

    Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk

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    I'm not talking about running the Wide Trail tires. I'm asking about running the normal 2.5 DHFs

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    Quote Originally Posted by He1enKe1ler View Post
    I'm not talking about running the Wide Trail tires. I'm asking about running the normal 2.5 DHFs
    In the article it references "regular" tires.

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    I temporarily rode my maxxis 2.4 dhrII and 2.5 dhf on my Giant XC1 rims (23mm iw) and they did an ok job on my local trail. I tested them real hard on burms and corners and felt the "side to side" movement. I had no other issues but eventually replaced the xc1 rims with Stans Flow MK3 rims (29mm iw) and right away felt a big dif, especially on cornering and weight.

    So yes you can use Maxxis Wide tires on 23mm narrow wheels but I wouldn't trust it for very long. A minimum of 29mm for 2.3 or bigger tires would be Optimal.
    Last edited by skycries57; 08-23-2017 at 09:22 PM. Reason: wording

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    For anyone looking,

    the Front XC-1 wheel weights 875g

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