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    Raced my NRS this weekend

    I took my custom '03 Giant NRS on its first race this past weekend - 24 Hrs in the Old Pueblo in Tucson, AZ. Since the course is relatively smooth, I could have probably made due with my trusty old Trek hardtail, but I decided to see how the new Giant handles a race course.

    All I can say is WOW...this bike works well for racing. I never felt the suspension affect me one bit. There are a few long uphill sections that don't require a granny gear but are a grind nonetheless. I never felt any bobbing or pedal feedback to speak of. And coming from 10+ years of hardtail riding, I am very sensitive to any pedal feedback and bobbing...even the slightest.

    There was also no frame flex that I could determine. The rear tire stayed on track all of the time, even in some of the more difficult parts of the course.

    This course is tight and twisty, and the bike seemed to handle it as well as my Trek hardtail. I run Hutchinson Pythons, which are fast rolling tires, so the bike was always wanting to ride faster. At first I thought this bike was a bit slow handling, but after getting the seat position dialed in right and playing with the stem, I think it handles great now.

    How is this bike better than my hardtail for an event like the 24 hour race? One reason is that I didn't tire as fast because the bike didn't beat me up. Second, I was able to ride some of the singletrack faster because the rear tire was not affected as much by the washboards that were prevalent in some turns (especially as the course got worn down and the washboards got worse).

    I'm going to enter some of the shorter MBAA races this year as well and I will probably use the Giant for some of them. We'll see how it works out on shorter sprints. Given how it worked on this fast course in Tucson, it will probably excel at the other courses in the Phoenix area.

    Thx...Doug

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    Thanks for the post. I'm going to be riding my new NRS in a 24 hr this August. Seems like most people you see in these races are riding Fuels or Truths so it's nice to hear some good NRS feedback.

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    Bikes at the 24 Hr event

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghisallo
    Thanks for the post. I'm going to be riding my new NRS in a 24 hr this August. Seems like most people you see in these races are riding Fuels or Truths so it's nice to hear some good NRS feedback.
    Actually, I saw a lot of other NRS's at the race - all models and years (Air, 2, 3, etc). There were a LOT of Fuel's too. Since the race was in AZ there was quite a few Titus RX's. I only saw 1 or 2 Truths.

    The course was not incredibly technical -- I could have probably ridden my hardtail on the course without too much pain. So the fact that I was very happy with the performance of the NRS on a relatively smooth trail should speak volumes about the efficiency of the design. It's on the smoother trails with lots of climbs that you feel most FS designs bob or induce feedback into the pedals, and the NRS displayed none of that. One of the climbs is a modest 2-miler, and it felt like I was pedaling my hardtail up that hill. So even with all that efficiency I still had enough cush for my body to feel fresh throughout the race.

    Which NRS do you have?

    Thx...Doug
    Last edited by dgangi; 02-17-2004 at 11:57 AM.

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    I have a small 04Air on order and will also be running the Martas!

    I had ridden a couple different NRSs in the past but at that point I was just coming from riding Fisher Joshua. It just felt wrong for FS to be so stiff. Since then I've owned a Fuel and have come to realize that effective FS doesn't mean needing to bounce up and down all the time.

    I have a bunch of credit piled up at my local shop (which only sells Giant) so I will be Ebaying the Fuel and giving the Carbon Air a go.

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    I had a 2002 NRS-1 and raced it 50 some odd times since 2002 (something like 35 podiums). It's obvious how much I love it because I have a 2004 NRS Air thats due to arrive on friday. It's the only mountain bike I bother owning.....I sold all the other ones off. And I am very seriously into racing. Cant wait to tear it up on my new Carbon NRS

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    Great report. Sounds like the NRS has worked great for you. I havent raced my NRS, yet, but I plan to do so in the months to come.
    Keep Pedaling

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    Wouldnt race anything else........even though I officially have an Airborne sponsorship

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    NRS race pics here

    What the hell, eh?
    Dauset GAP(Ga mtn bike series)race this past July. It was like..1 million degrees that day, and equal humidity. JUST had gotten off the bike from the race. Master sport class. Mid 22lbs in this pic. The bike, that is. I'm more like 160lbs and holding.

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    The black NRS at the Gainesville College GAP race this past Sept. I've had better days. Chain broke while outta the saddle and hammering. The stem is not your friend at these times. Not a happy camper in this pic. Mainly cause I forgot my spare powerlink i always carry. Well, almost always...


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    NRS chic pic while riding thru the BMX section of the GAP race in Macon Ga(central Ga). Have no idea who she is. Some Expert rider on an NRS is all I know. Does it really matter?

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    Start of the GAP race at the Gainesville Agri Center. Killer 7-8 mile long singletrack course designed by SORBA specifically for racing. Love this course. Start was 2 times around the horse stadium thingie to string us out before hitting the singletrack. Was 98 degrees here too. Our hot summer in June. Note blue 4.5" rockers.

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    Un names riders at the start of the Beginner class at the Macon race(BMX section)this year again. Note the 2000 NRS center. I'm just an NRS [email protected] is all.

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    Some more the BMX section. 5 more miles of fast singletrack otherwise. The Experts 30 seconds after the start. Nice twist going thru this stuff.

    Ok, I'll hush now.

    Duck

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    Great pics. The more the better.
    And nice quads by the way.

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    Great pics! To bad it's -10 here in canada........I'll post some 2003 race pics when I have the time.

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    duckman,
    isn't that bmx track by geico insurance ? gotta love georgia heat. have you ridden behind the thomson factory in macon ?

    dirt diggler

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    I dunno man. Only raced/ridden there once this past late summer. Was next to some ballpark stuff too. thomson factory? Its in Ga? I heard it was in the SE somewhere, but...

    Just before they hit the BMX stuff, after starting just around the bend(fence). Those bikes in the foreground look pretty fast indeed..eh? Tough crowd probably.

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    Start of my class at the Gainesville College race..um..course. Fun course to race on, being all fast singletrack with a long lap around that lake in the pic above. FAAAAST. I "think" i'm 3rd from the left. Had a rear flat 3 minutes before the start. Pushed the bike 100yds up that bigass grass hill...swapped out my rear spare wheel(140mm disc with a Kenda Karma mounted up thank God)...booked down to this start..."GO!"...Not the best for head game for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt diggler
    duckman,
    isn't that bmx track by geico insurance ? gotta love georgia heat. have you ridden behind the thomson factory in macon ?

    dirt diggler

    Nothing to do with the NRS, but....

    The Thomson trails are some of the best riding we have here in Macon. Due to the diligent work of the crew from neighboring Warner Robins, I think the loop out there is a little over four miles long. Easily the most technical riding we have in the immediate Macon area. One downhill with two or three cool drops, one cool sidcehill section, lots of dips and a section of BMX rhythm section type stuff. I love it out there. It and East Macon (in the same park as the BMX track near Geico) are my favorite in-town rides. If you are in the area it is worth the trip.

    I have always admired the NRS. There, I'm on topic.

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    Thanks for the info. I really had no idea. Dang even. That addition would indeed make the ride down there worth it for sure. I otherwise know of only Dauset down that-a-way.

    Ok...note too self...

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    Been riding my NRS since January 2000 and I have no desire to replace it. You can make it as hard as you like or soften it a bit and take the bite out. I run the shock slightly under what the instructions say, and still no bob, climbs like a hardtail and works geat!

    This is the longest I've had any bike, and I'm surprised I'm not craving something new!


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    rear setup

    How do you NRS racers set up your rear SID shock? 10-15 psi over rider wt for positive and 50 psi for negative? I found that putting more air in the negative makes the shock more responsive to smaller bumps, but Giant recommends only 50 psi regardless of rider weight. Why is that? It just seeems weird that a 120 lb rider and a 230 lb rider would both have the negative set the same.

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    I've raced my 03 NRS in about a half dozen races this year and it has treated me well. I have run it in many different configurations too - Fox100rlc/SID carbon/SGF Rockers/stock/risers/flat/many different tire combos/Hayes/Hopes/mavic317/mavic219 and soon to be Syncros wheelset.
    I run my SID at exactly body weight w/ stock rockers, and about 20psi over weight w/ SGF rockers, then 50psi in the neg chamber. If you want more small bump compliance, than add a bit to the neg. The positive chamber is for preload, that is why the neg chamber is similar for most weights.
    Schralp it Heavy.

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