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    More plush rear shock for my '03 NRS 2?

    I see that Giant has changed the rear shock on the '04 NRS to allow for a more supple ride over the small bumps. If there was one thing I would like to change on my '03 it would be a more plush rear end for my 35 year old rear end. What are my options for new rear shocks? Is the Fox an option as aftermarket? I have seen some posts on the Cloud Nine and the AD-12, what is the difference? Is one better? Where can I buy these for the best deal?

    Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmre
    I see that Giant has changed the rear shock on the '04 NRS to allow for a more supple ride over the small bumps. If there was one thing I would like to change on my '03 it would be a more plush rear end for my 35 year old rear end. What are my options for new rear shocks? Is the Fox an option as aftermarket? I have seen some posts on the Cloud Nine and the AD-12, what is the difference? Is one better? Where can I buy these for the best deal?

    Thanks for the help.
    OK, scratch all those questions. I just ordered a Cane Creek Cloud Nine direct from them on the upgrade program. I figure for $225 I can't go wrong. I read some of the posts on the Cloud Nine and couldn't resist. Thank God for disposible income. Now my question is "How hard is this thing to swap out myself" Should I go to the LBS to let them do it? It should be here early next week.

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    Piece 'o cake...

    The swap is about as simple as it gets. Cane Creek will provide you with the proper bushings (fingers crossed ? but usually they get it right). You just unbolt the SID and fasten up the C9.

    Congrats. I had an AD12 on my NRS and loved it. You'll absolutely be amazed at the suppleness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmre
    OK, scratch all those questions. I just ordered a Cane Creek Cloud Nine direct from them on the upgrade program. I figure for $225 I can't go wrong. I read some of the posts on the Cloud Nine and couldn't resist. Thank God for disposible income. Now my question is "How hard is this thing to swap out myself" Should I go to the LBS to let them do it? It should be here early next week.
    Did you fill out that fitting form they had or did you call them directly and told them you had an NRS and they already knew they size? I find the fitting form a little confusing b/c I dont know much about the measurements.
    Keep Pedaling

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    Why not a Swinger shock?

    So far that's the best shock I've tried.

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    Swinger on NRS?

    I'd expect the function of an SPV shock to be of little use, due to the topped out, no sag nature of the suspension. Gotta admit I'm baffled by Giant's use of ProPedal equipped Floats on the '04 NRS's, except that I guess that's the only option (no more non-PP Floats, right?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerdude87
    Did you fill out that fitting form they had or did you call them directly and told them you had an NRS and they already knew they size? I find the fitting form a little confusing b/c I dont know much about the measurements.
    I called them directly and they said they knew the size and hardware kit I needed. We'll see how it goes in a few days. I post my first impressions.

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    Cane Creek arrived Friday...

    Cane Creek is in and installed. Of course it has been raining here for a week pretty much. Hope to be able to post some impressions this week... I want to post a picture of the bike now, but I guess I am too stupid to figure it out. How do you insert a picture in a post? I hit the button up top but can't seem to get the link to the picture to upload when I post.

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    Here's what I do...

    Quote Originally Posted by johnmre
    How do you insert a picture in a post? I hit the button up top but can't seem to get the link to the picture to upload when I post.
    Of course resize the picture in your photo editing software so it's 600 or so pixels wide, and save it at a mid compression level as a .jpg image. I should be no more than 200k to upload, but with the above steps it will be closer to 40k in size.

    Save it to an obvious location on your hard drive.

    Click the Upload link above to go to <a href="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/upload.asp">gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/upload.asp</a> and use the 'choose' button to locate the picture, then click "Submit".

    Copy the red text to the message window.

    Use the "img src" tag to post the photo like so:

    &lt;img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/yourpicture.jpg">&gt;

    Don't leave out the &gt; & &lt;, make sure there is a single space between IMG and SRC ("img src"), don't forget your quotation marks at the beginning and the end, and always include the "https://" part.

    Piece of cake, right?

    This method allows you to post multiple images in one post. It's actually much easier than I've made it out to be.

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    Giving it a shot...




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    Looks great! Mine's still in transit and has the cute blue sticker on it. Yours looks killer with the Black on the front. I was planning on mounting my C9 the way the SID is but flipping it makes more sense since the adjustments are easier to reach!

    Damn - I didn't realize that you do have a Black on the front. Short of the XTR we've got the same bike - even Panaracers! Have you thought of cutting down your bars?
    At this rate it doesn't even matter! This rain is misery!!!!!!
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    Already cut 'em

    I cut about 1 inch off each side. I thought I went too far at first but I am used to them now. Man, if it doesn't stop raining soon, I am going to go crazy.

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    That bike and the setup looks really nice. Looks a lot like the NRS I hope to upgrade to, Black fork, CC rear shock, and sram x-9 stuff.
    Keep Pedaling

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    Rides supposed to be a little more supple on the 2004's. I will let ya know as soon as my bike gets here (this week, NRS Air). Not that I had any complaints with my 2002 NRS-1, and not that I run it that supple cause I strictly race it.

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    Well, my Cloud 9 is on as well. It looks like it may actually dry up enough this week to ride it too. Hopefully I'll get over to Chicopee or the Ag Center next weekend.

    I'm pretty psyched about it. The Black Elite up front and the Cloud 9 in the back should be a great combo on the NRS!
    Big hoopy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRocker
    Well, my Cloud 9 is on as well. It looks like it may actually dry up enough this week to ride it too. Hopefully I'll get over to Chicopee or the Ag Center next weekend.

    I'm pretty psyched about it. The Black Elite up front and the Cloud 9 in the back should be a great combo on the NRS!
    I decided to bring the bike to work this Thursday and head out to Mansell. That will be my first ride on it. Luckily that is only about 5 minutes from my office. I'm going to stick the shock pump in my Camelback so I can mess around with pressure.

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    I'm doing that tomorrow morning. I'm not sure how much pumping I'll do though...

    What time are you thinking of going Thursday? I may try to join you...
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    Going to try to be there a little before 12:00

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    I'm doing that tomorrow morning. I'm not sure how much pumping I'll do though...

    What time are you thinking of going Thursday? I may try to join you...
    Hopefully riding by 12:00 and try to get in close to an hour. Shower at the YMCA and be back before anyone realizes I took a two hour lunch... I just read your profile, do you sell software, too?

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    I'm riding Mansell tomorrow around noon-ish. Rode the road today on my HT for a hour+ doing frick'n Intervals. The pain. Oooooh the pain of it all. Anyways...I'll be there running my crazy cow dog, Cassy. Might be on my Moab HT tho. Its still muddy from "some" trail riding near the house today as well. Thur I'm riding my main haunt, being Blankets Creek. I'm 15 minutes from it, and it "should" be open by then.

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    Hmmm.
    I'll be at Mansell around 7:15 freezing my butt off Wed with one of my friends. I prefer to get my workouts in the AM but it's easier during the Summer and when it's dry! Gotta see about Thursday, I had something come up for next week that will have me pretty busy.

    Yep, I'm in software as are the guys I ride with. Most of us are in technical pre-sales. It's probably a small world!

    Duck - the guy I'm riding with tomorrow is on a blue Ranier (well, it was silver but he cracked the frame late in 03). Chances are you've seen him at Blankets at some point.
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    What time? LOL! Your face is gonna burn off(sorta like mine did today). Yes indeedy, its gonna be about 30* then. 53*-ish tho by 3pm, and 63*-ish by Thur. Bout time!

    I JUST talked to a dude on a blue Ranier at Blankets a couple weeks ago. Bet its the same dude. Forget which bike I was on. There goes that short term mem again.

    Yeah, I "was" a Large Bids Specialist(running Excel spreadsheets with columns out to ZZ for Gods sake and 30-40k+ sku's and the like) for a Fortune 400 co...um...until I had to take a "Package" a year ago. 23 years there. 51 weeks of sevrants tho. Oh well. Thankfully my home and truck are paid off, single, and just finished raising my son. Its been time to ride ride ride.....

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    It actually didn't feel too cold this morning. OK, once my fingers got some blood flow!

    Bummer to hear they rewarded your loyalty so well. At least they didn't just give you a month's pay and push you out the door. My friend on the Blue Ranier got that treatment last year and lives 5-10 minutes from Blankets - he rode a BUNCH before he landed a new job!
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    So how was the Cloud Nine???

    Guess I need to get laid off so I can get into shape... Careful what you wish for, huh?

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    The 9 was nice! I didn't do much bombing along but my impression was that it was much more plush on smaller rocks and roots without noticable bob.

    Mine came from Cane Creek with the hardware already on and the "short end" had the bushing pressed in. I just installed it knobs down and that's a pain. I called them up and they said pushing it out wouldn't harm the shock - I'll be doing that before I ride again since I definitely need to tweak in the rebound.

    My benchmark will be the next time I'm on some fast rough stuff/chatter at Chicopee. Hopefully that will be this weekend - repeat after me "Don't rain. Don't rain. Don't rain."
    Big hoopy.
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    I rode Mansell at lunch today and I LOVE the Cloud 9. I think I'll be tweaking on it for a while, but I am loving it as is. I weigh about 185 and have the psi set about 175. Rebound and compression knobs turned in about 1/2 turn each. I only bottomed out once and it was dropping into one of those chutes at the bottom of the 2nd climb.

    I didn't have anyone showing me around today so I was just taking off down trails but it worked out to a good ride. It is going to take a few more rides to figure that place out. Probably going to head out early tomorrow and ride Blanket's around 2 or 3 on my way up to Chattanooga. I have to take advantage of this weather and try to get back into shape... Moab in May....

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    Cool! It's definitely the right shock for the bike. Super plush and no need for a "stable platform" due to the suspension design. I actually feel like I'm using the travel built into the bike!

    I was tweaking mine over lunch. My scale says I'm around 175 but I think it's 5-10 low. I've got it set around 185 psi with the compression and rebound dialed in about 1/3. I was jumping curbs over lunch and that seems like a good start for me. I'll probably drop some psi and up compression. I took the O-ring off my SID and put it on the Cloud 9, that really helped me judge how much travel I was using up.
    Big hoopy.
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    Well, I got out and put some miles on the Cloud 9 today. It absolutely rocks! I am getting almost all of my travel and was on a trail with some nice drops and chatter. The rear feels much more plush than with the SID, there is simply a huge difference. There is also a pretty serious climb on the trail I rode (steep but not technical). I forgot to use the RCA both laps I did and I don't know if I will ever use it other than for novelty. The NRS suspension is still bob-free yet it seems to be more active when climbing over logs, roots and stuff. I am a very happy camper!

    I think the main difference between the AD-12 and the Cloud 9 is the RCA valve. The 12 has compression and rebound adjustments. If you're thinking about the upgrade you could probably save $50 and get the 12.
    Big hoopy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRocker
    I think the main difference between the AD-12 and the Cloud 9 is the RCA valve. The 12 has compression and rebound adjustments. If you're thinking about the upgrade you could probably save $50 and get the 12.
    Agreed, and with the AD12 you'll also gain the 3-position adjustable volume plate to better tune the rate of rise of main pressure pressure as the shock compresses.

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    Picture - Had to show it off!

    Bright sunny day - at last

    Nice dry trail too
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