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    I've been riding a hardtail 29er and decided i wanted a full sus. Picked up a 2017 stance 2. Immediately converted to tubeless with a single wrap of gorilla tape... The maxxis ardents have had no problem holding air. I check my pressure every time i ride (25f/28r) and they go at least a week without losing anything. Set my sag at 20/25 and rebound one click from fastest. Installed red ODI ruffian grips and covered my down tube, seat stays, and a few other areas in 8 mil helicopter tape. Red race face Chester flats.

    I've put in about 60 miles of single track in the last week on it, including some good woops, drops, rock gardens, roots, flat turns, banked turns, tree gates, short climbs, and moderate descents.

    Compared to the HT 29 this bike was super nimble, but still felt really stable, running on a rail through turns. Maneuvering through multiple tight tree gates was a piece of cake. I don't have another FS to compare to, but i don't feel the rear killed me while climbing, and the grip was great. Every once in a while the flex of the 30mm stanchions was noticeable, but it wasn't as bad as some of the reviews made it out to be... Or else I'm just not good enough to push a bike to the limits where it would matter.

    I'm happy with the component level. I mostly come from a road background, and if it's anything like road components, once you hit a certain level, anything more you pay for is mostly weight savings, not durability. I would maybe like to convert to a 1x drive at some point, but i don't really feel like I'm at a disadvantage running 2x... People raced on 3x for years a lot faster than I'll ever be. My only complaint with the alivio shifters is the indicators which block me from moving the brake lever inside. I just don't want to cut the housing and have exposure to dirt. Could i get wider or faster wheels? Sure. But i won't until i trash this set. Dropper post? I've never had one, and I've never had problems getting behind the seat. If i was racing at a high level, might consider it, but then I'd also probably be on a more expensive bike overall.

    I got this bike to ride the trails around here as hard as i can and maybe do a few local races. I'm not doing DH. I'm not competing for big prize money. For my purposes, this bike fit the bill perfectly for a great price. Don't really care what the elitists have to say.


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    This is my wife's Stance. We both ride mediums, so I have two to ride when she doesn't go . Slowly upgrading with some of the parts taken off my Trance.
    - 130mm Rockshox Sektor
    - 1x Slx Drivetrain
    - Raceface Aeffect Wheels
    - Raceface 50mm stem with Easton Haven bars

    Waiting on dropper post and SLX M7000 brakes to arrive. Overall, it's a great bike. Definitely more zippy and playful than my Trance, but it's not as stable/secure when it's rough.

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    I just did a tubeless conversion on the front tire on my daughters 2016 trance 2. The process was painless and uneventful. I started with a roll of gorilla clear repair tape. Used a sharpie to mark the mid point all the way around and a box cutter to cut the tap all the way through. After one rim it looks like I went threw maybe a third of the roll on one half but it might be closer to half. I'm not sure. So one roll will do 4 to 6 27.5 rims if you want to run it 1 inch wide.

    Stan's stems and sealant with the core removal tool. I know I don't need this tool but I'm teaching my kids as I go and they don't have that kind on finger strength. I prefer to inject the instead of spill it all over the place. I'm a clutz.

    Now here's the interesting part. This bike ow stock except a dropper. The factory rims are just bottom of the line alloy double wall and they Maxxis ardentss have a wire bead and are not advertised as tubeless ready. When you let the air out the bead just collapses off the rim and sucks im. Now I have a full on shop compressor pushing 150psi with a hi flow inflator. But I was not expecting the final step to being so painless. 4 second burst hooked the bead. 60 psi set it amd not even a hint of sealant seepage along the bead, sidewalls or treads.I figured it was going to ne q sticky mess with sealant coming out of of everywhere by all the horror stories on the forums with non tubeless ready tires and wheels.

    My only concern is if I get a major puncture and do a trailside repair the bead might not hook up with a Co2 charger. That's why we still take a spare tube and pump right?

    Has anyone else no tubed this set on tires and wheels? I'm interested in how it is won't and the long term results. If its doesn't work out in the long run I'll upgrade the wheels when the rubber gets worn. Probably will be do that anyway but of it's not broke why fix it.

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    I did gorilla tubeless with Stan's valves and maxxis ardents wire bead non tubeless on my stance 2 stock rims. I was able to seat both the front and rear with a road style floor pump, so I'm sure co2 could do it.

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    The bead should hold even after letting the air out. I would not recommend tubeless with wire bead, but if they work for you that's great!

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    It's one of those rim and tire combos that are really loose fitting. The rim has no substantial locking groove. More like a small lip that's more like sloppy machining than a lip. The bead on the tire is almost smooth. When you go from 60 psi and let the air out slow the bead pops loose and then the whole tire just sucks into itself. It's actually a pain in the ass to get it to air up even with 150 psi amd a high flow inflator. Like I said, these are the Giants cheaper rims.

    Quote Originally Posted by mraggie12 View Post
    The bead should hold even after letting the air out. I would not recommend tubeless with wire bead, but if they work for you that's great!

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    I'm not having your luck. I did 2 wraps with gorilla clear repair tape, Great stuff but I was loosing pressure down from 60 to under 10 in an hour. Tried it twice. I was not getting any bubbles along the rim and bead, the valve stem, or any of the spokes or any portion of the sidewalls or tread. I decided to air it up one more time and took it just a hair over 60 and blew a hole in the tape at one of the spoke holes. I broke it down, cleaned it up rolled some regular gorilla tape over the clear. going to check on it in 15 minutes. But damn man it was a pita to get the trie to air up again. It was was a lot like hitting the casino. Maybe half an hour of fiddling with the tire, rotating it on the rim trying to find a sweet spot where it would hook up and set the bead. If it was just the one bike I would definitely be looking to upgrade wheels and rubber right now. But I've still got 2 more bikes to buy and set up. At least the 2 I'm looking at are tubeless ready.

    Quote Originally Posted by PSD Ryan View Post
    I did gorilla tubeless with Stan's valves and maxxis ardents wire bead non tubeless on my stance 2 stock rims. I was able to seat both the front and rear with a road style floor pump, so I'm sure co2 could do it.
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    I would take the clear tape off completely, clean the inside of the rim with alcohol, let it evaporate, and if you're having that much trouble I'd just use Stan's tape. My rims only have one wrap of regular gorilla. My bead seated at about 40-45, then i backed it off to riding pressure. They'll hold pressure without dropping for at least a few days

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    It's all sorted. Holding good pressure. I prepped the rim really well and it only had maybe 40 miles on it so was supper easy to get nice and clean. I like the benefit of the clear tape coming of clean and not dealing with the residue from the regular gorilla. I have been using gorilla tape for years now. Stuff is better than the original hundred mile hour tale we used to use for temporary aircraft repair. On wrap of clear and one wrap of original is going to be how I do all my conversions. This was my first and I think it was fairly painless and is pretty dialed. My daughter learned to do it in them process. The wheels do need to be upgraded though and when this rubber gets replaced I will be able getting a better set.

    Thanks for the replies.

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    I upped this to help Stance riders finding this thread

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    I recently tried to swap 160 rear rotor to 180 rear rotor. I don't think it can be done. Using shimano bracket, puts a caliper in such position, where outside of bleeding nipple hits seat stay.
    Has anyone successfully upgraded brakes using stock calipers?
    More you beef it up, more it will handle like a cow....

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    2016 Stance 2 Fox 34

    Here's a hello video, Flagstaff riding on my Stance

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    2016 Stance 2 Fox 34

    I upgraded the front end, I'm in the 200# range and those 30MM forks were decent, but I knew from the start I'd be upgrading several component to get it close to where I really wanted it. I did a Fox 34 with 150mm travel up front, paired with a carbon P-trx1C and a 2.4 Highroller II, out back in now running a Riddler 2.4 and I think that's about as big as can fit. Locking grips, but yeah. I need to do the pedals next then a dropper post. I'd like a wider rear rim, but that's probably going to be the final mod.

    Here's my amateur review of the Stance
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    At the end, I break done what my costs have been to this point.
    Nothing fancy, but you can tell I'm having fun. Got a couple vids actually, still getting the hang of youtube, but I'll add this, subscribe, you want to see what's coming! I'm doing an Epic road trip next month from Santa Cruz to Downieville to Sandy Ridge OR & Mt.Hood to Mt St Helens & Mt Rainier, THEN... Spending a Day under DiamondBack Team Rider Simon Lawton and founder of Fluidride getting coached @ Duthie Hill WA, then doing Tiger Mt and if the weather holds...I might just keep going!! I'll have the Stance and most likely a 6Fattie Stumpy, so YEAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10CentTraveler View Post
    ...I'm doing an Epic road trip next month from Santa Cruz to Downieville to Sandy Ridge OR & Mt.Hood to Mt St Helens & Mt Rainier, THEN... Spending a Day under DiamondBack Team Rider Simon Lawton and founder of Fluidride getting coached @ Duthie Hill WA, then doing Tiger Mt and if the weather holds...I might just keep going!! I'll have the Stance and most likely a 6Fattie Stumpy, so YEAH!

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    That is gonna be awesome, 3 of my favorite mountains. You driving car, and gonna go ride here and there?
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    Cool-blue Rhythm

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    You driving car, and gonna go ride here and there?
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    You know it! Road Trip, Camping, Waking up as close to the hills as I can, and Riding. So fortunate to be able to do this, I'm stoked to put the Stance through it's paces!

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    I'm thinking to switch to tubeless on my 2016 Stance 1. I replaced my front tire with specialized Butcher, tubeless ready. I read some used stock tires with tubeless setup. Opinions?
    And, what do I need, and how to do it properly?
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    Just picked up a 2017 Stance yesterday and I am looking forward to trying it out this weekend!!!
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    Hi, I'm new in the forum. I got my 2016 Stance 27.5 2 weeks ago. I'll post a pics later. :-)

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    Here you go.

    2016 stance 27.5, upgraded to tubeless.

    My first ever XC and I love it, been to trail. Hoping to upgrade soon some components of it especially the seat post.


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    Nice ride and what is your setup to go tubeless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmahan View Post
    Nice ride and what is your setup to go tubeless?
    I bought it tubeless already, it has been upgraded by the previous owner and it is perfect for me because we ride most on trail.


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    do you know what brand is the best to use ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmahan View Post
    do you know what brand is the best to use ?
    as usual in life everyone agrees there's that one brand that is the best to use:

    Schwalbe

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    Just bought a 2015 stance, I was going to spend 3k on a 2018 trance but I decided to save and look around.

    Found a trance with 130mm rockshox pike, 120mm rear fox float, 1x11 sram x1 drivetrain, guide r brakes, 180mm rotors, stands wheels with hope pro2 hubs, raceface bars & stem and my god this thing rocks, I'm going through rock gardens brakeless and the best part is I don't even wear a pack anymore...

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    So far Maxxis Ardent EXO TR tire works great tubeless on my stock rims.

    Front Butcher Control was weeping for more than a month. It seem to stop recently. I do not loose air, so I guess there is still a sealant in there
    More you beef it up, more it will handle like a cow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jh79 View Post
    Just bought a 2015 stance, I was going to spend 3k on a 2018 trance but I decided to save and look around.

    Found a trance with 130mm rockshox pike, 120mm rear fox float, 1x11 sram x1 drivetrain, guide r brakes, 180mm rotors, stands wheels with hope pro2 hubs, raceface bars & stem and my god this thing rocks, I'm going through rock gardens brakeless and the best part is I don't even wear a pack anymore...
    Dang, this bike plus all these upgrades is probably as much as Trance....
    Good stuff thought!
    More you beef it up, more it will handle like a cow....

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    Newish Stance 1 owner here!

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    Mods to date:
    Tubeless with Stans valves
    WTB Vigilante 2.3 up front
    Disco brakes kevlar pads
    DMR lock on grips

    Tuning:
    3 volume spaces up front
    .4 in^3 volume spacer in the shock

    loaded with gear im ~210 lb. Handles my local trails just fine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudee47 View Post
    I just joined mtbr...
    This is my 2016 Giant Stance 2
    So far I've only upgraded the wheels, but the front one will be coming in two weeks.

    Upgrades/Customizations:
    Xpedo Spry Pedals
    Front Fender
    Stan's Flow MK3 Rims laced to purple Hope Pro 4 hubs with green decals (front not shown in pic)
    Tires: Maxxis High Roller II (F), Maxxis Minion SS (R) (HRII will be added once I get the front wheel)
    Set up tubeless
    ODI Vans Lock-On Grips

    In the near future I'll be upgrading to a 1x11 XT drivetrain and adding a 150mm Fox Transfer Factory dropper post.

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    Current Upgrades:
    Fox Transfer Factory 150mm dropper
    Deity D30 760mm Riser Bars
    Truvativ Hussefelt Stem
    Xpedo Spry Pedals
    Front Fender
    Stan's Flow MK3 Rims laced to purple Hope Pro 4 hubs with green decals
    Tires: Maxxis High Roller II (F), Maxxis Minion SS (R)
    Set up tubeless
    Purple valve stem caps
    ESI Chunky grips

    I'm considering upgrading the suspension and drivetrain (probably GX Eagle) much later in the future, but as of now I'm pretty happy with this bike, so I'm looking to get an all-mountain bike for park riding instead of upgrading my Stance.

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    I'll post a review of my 2017 Stance 1 a little later. I've been very pleased with the Stance, with one exception, square edged rock or root lips. The front fork is great, the rear does well except for that one exception. It typically happens on uphills, where it's harder to unweight the rear. When it happens, I come to a dead stop.

    I have made some modification to the rear shock setting, which improved but did not eliminate the situation. Has anyone had this same issue? If so, what did you do?

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    You didn't state what the issue is, only when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BADDANDY View Post
    You didn't state what the issue is, only when.
    The rear tire doesn't go over the root or rock , but instead the rear hangs up, and the bike comes to a complete or near compete stop.

    Over the same ledges, my Norco Sight doesn't have that problem. While the Sight is the bike I ride most, I still like to take the Stance out. I would like it better if I get this issue resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manodpickr View Post
    The rear tire doesn't go over the root or rock , but instead the rear hangs up, and the bike comes to a complete or near compete stop.

    Over the same ledges, my Norco Sight doesn't have that problem. While the Sight is the bike I ride most, I still like to take the Stance out. I would like it better if I get this issue resolved.
    The sight has 30mm more suspension on the rear. It's a plusher bike.

    The problem is you, not the bike. It's why guys ride smaller travel bikes, hard tails, rigid. It keeps you honest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfinator View Post
    The sight has 30mm more suspension on the rear. It's a plusher bike.

    The problem is you, not the bike. It's why guys ride smaller travel bikes, hard tails, rigid. It keeps you honest!

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    Actually its 20mm. And thanks for the chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manodpickr View Post
    Actually its 20mm. And thanks for the chuckle.
    Well I saw 130 and 140 on the site, but I'm not familiar with the bike. Thanks for taking it light heartedly

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    I'm also not here uselessly. I picked up a 2016 (black and dark green) for the GF for Christmas. Her first real MTB. I'll pay some real info when she's gotten a few more rides on it

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    If you've done all you can with the shock, you might move onto the tire. Pressure might be something, but I'd assume you've played with that. Really I'd change the tire. The 2.25 Ardent is an entry tire and nothing to write home about. I'd go bigger and with a better sidewall (I'm running a WTB RIDDLER 27.5x2.4 out back & a Minion II 2.4 up front) This should help eat up those roots and rocks, give her some float over.
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    I'm going to be nice. I could've said I'm just not the rider you are, but I'm not going to do that. Just to give you some background, I've been riding mtb since '92, before that I raced enduros and motocross. BTW I run 2.4's on both ends, either Mavic Quest Pros, or Minion DH II F+R depending on which wheelset I run and how wet the trail is. I do agree that a 2.6 or 2.8 would help. Except they will not fit between the rear chainstays.

    I do love the comment suggesting I pick a better line. Better yet, don't look at the front wheel. Why didn't I think of those gems! LOL.

    Seriously though, since you're not afflicted with this problem, either due to your superior riding skill or your lack of riding serious rock gardens and technical terrain, it's kind of hard to help. I thank you for your attempt though.

    I was aiming this message at someone who has faced this problem and was able to correct it, or someone that had intimate knowledge of low pivot/single pivot suspension design. Until recently, I have been more familiar with single pivot with the pivot point mid or high. These type of single pivot suspension systems have historically worked much better on square-edged hits or step-ups. The lower pivot of the Stance is new to me, and as such so is the potential of the shock to manage these hits. Otherwise, the rear suspension does well for a single track trail bike.

    Again, thanks for the effort! And remember, don't look that that front wheel!

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    I think what you mean is when you're going up hill and there's like a mini rock garden, or like going up a flight of stairs, but usually what I do is just mash the pedals until I get up it, even though I have a Minion SS on the back which does not give good climbing traction at all.

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    I ordered a 2018 Stance 1 a couple days ago. While this is my first FS, Iím not a beginner rider. This thing is legitimately specced well and contrary to popular belief, single pivot suspension can be done well. From the Stance 2 that I tested, this seems like a snappy, fun frame and Iím looking forward to putting some serious time in on it. I donít think itís fair to compare it to the Trance because itís just a very different bike, even beyond the Maestro vs. single pivot issue.

    The 11-46 cassette with a 30T chainring just seems like its going to be a blast. The Fox shocks arenít super high end, but theyíre going to be more than adequate. I like the 2016 color scheme better, but this 2018 theme is growing on me.

    There isnít much that Iím dying to upgrade right away. Maybe some custom orange decals to replace the red.

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    2016 Stance 1

    Bought new 5-16 for 1500.
    Went tubeless immediately, tires wouldn't seal so i bought 2.4 Ardents and it was great except i never really trusted th front because it felt like the side knobs were folding over on hard cornering. Now has 27.5 x 2.6 Forekaster front, 2.4 Ardent rear. Should be replacing rear with 2.6 Ardent Race before Summer.
    Ended up replacing stock wheelset with Spank Oozy Trail 345 and big difference in precision and rigidity even can I feel.
    Also did 1X10 conversion with some cheap Sunrace 11-46 (?) And Absolute Black 32t traction oval chainring. Say what you will, do your research, but I LOVE IT.
    Got spank spoon 785 riser bars and shorter factory stem. More comfy for my old man back.
    This is the only fs bike i have spent any real time on, but for the money it seems like a great choice. Good mix of nimble and stable, lightweight but beefy.
    I may post some pics at some point but i would rather be riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalStrike View Post
    tires wouldn't seal so i bought 2.4 Ardents and it was great except i never really trusted th front because it felt like the side knobs were folding over on hard cornering.
    I have the same issue with my 2018 Stance 1, and love it overall but having real trouble trusting the Ardents it came with as tubeless. I find I slide out when cornering and dont feel confident riding DH on lose stuff.

    pedalStrike, Now that you have had a few months on the forekaster up front hows that's working out for you? I may have to change my front out for the same


    Edited to post my bike pic too, added mudguards and hybrid clipless/flat pedals so i can swap out depending on how i feel that day. The dork disk now removed since taking this.

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    The Forekasters are OK. The only available 3C compound was the MaxxSpeed, which, despite the claims thay this tire is good in the wet, they are terrible on wet rocks. Terrible. Would ljke a pair in Maxx Terra. Besids that they are good, I have more trust on the front in most conditions and the extra volume is noticeable

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    I also have changed my Stance's spec, just upgraded to an SLX/XT 1x11 setup, and a heads-up to anyone looking to switch to a 1x system without changing out the crankset, the key to getting the chainring to fit is filing down the insert tabs.

    I also upgraded to SLX M7000 brakes and moved the Maxxis High Roller II (3C MaxxTerra EXO/TR 2.3) to the back and fitting a Maxxis Aggressor (DC EXO/TR 2.3) at the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalStrike View Post
    The Forekasters are OK. The only available 3C compound was the MaxxSpeed, which, despite the claims thay this tire is good in the wet, they are terrible on wet rocks. Terrible. Would ljke a pair in Maxx Terra. Besids that they are good, I have more trust on the front in most conditions and the extra volume is noticeable
    Thanks, I will have to do a google for prices/reviews on the Terra and compare it to Forekaster, needing that extra frontend confidence right now in the dusty dry conditions out there.

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    Good Day!

    I am planning to upgrade my seatpost to dropper. I found a good deal in Merlins the RSP Plummet Remote Dropper Seatpost, any thoughts?

    https://www.merlincycles.com/rsp-plu...st-111306.html

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    Forekaster is a great front, but very sensitive to pressure. If I'm in the sweet spot it's awesome, but if I'm a couple psi too high one got no confidence.

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    I also have changed my Stance's spec, just upgraded to an SLX/XT 1x11 setup, and a heads-up to anyone looking to switch to a 1x system without changing out the crankset, the key to getting the chainring to fit is filing down the insert tabs.

    I also upgraded to SLX M7000 brakes and moved the Maxxis High Roller II (3C MaxxTerra EXO/TR 2.3) to the back and fitting a Maxxis Aggressor (DC EXO/TR 2.3) at the front.
    Hello,


    I'm thinking about making the same modification (1X11 SLX), but I have the some questions.
    Did you have to change the rear Hubs to install 11v? (Hubs Giant Sport Tracker Disc, 32h, QR)

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    I also have changed my Stance's spec, just upgraded to an SLX/XT 1x11 setup, and a heads-up to anyone looking to switch to a 1x system without changing out the crankset, the key to getting the chainring to fit is filing down the insert tabs.

    I also upgraded to SLX M7000 brakes and moved the Maxxis High Roller II (3C MaxxTerra EXO/TR 2.3) to the back and fitting a Maxxis Aggressor (DC EXO/TR 2.3) at the front.
    Did you set them up tubeless? How was that on the stock rims?

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    hello fellow stance owners. got some decent mods going on the rigs. upgrades to mine to this point
    XT 30/22 chain rings
    tubeless conversion, Maxxis 2.30 Griffins D/D frnt/rear.
    came with xt RD
    clipless
    coming soon 1x10 11-46
    shorter stem
    I gotta say this bike for being a so called entry level squish rides far better than expected. sturdy,spunky suspention holding up pretty well for taking the beating its received. the trails here in Oklahoma have put this bike through some testing grounds. Blue, Black Trails and in between. thus far no slop in the pivots only one set of pads replaced after a year.

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    Got a Plummet Dropper!

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    Im using Maxxis Griffins2.35 Double Down front & rear. with stans they offer great traction can handle really hard impacts due to the side wall construction. I found the Ardents to be a ok cross country tire. but under real trail conditions tend to lose their composure. their a good single track tire and cross country, the side wall is a bit thin and flexy to handle real impacts. In 6 months of real trail riding had to replace both due to tread wear and side wall cuts and sketchy on decents. they work for tubless and are good starter tires

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    try increasing the sag a bit. or using more speed and commitment

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Giant Stance 1 2017

    Hello Guys,

    I'm from New Jersey, This is my second year riding, I have done hundreds of miles in this bike. Never has give me any issues. Been going to many trails including intermediate and experts. Many of my friends has the same bike different kind of mods. I have converted my to front single speed, tubeless and drop post. I'm looking for the best out of best tires for roots, rocks and wet condition riding for my bike it is time for me to get new tires. What you guys will recommend me? Thanks
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    Update to My stance 1 just added SunRace 11- 46 wide range cassette did a test climb at one of the local trails. Great mod and the bike climbs better than it ever has..

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    Hey all, I have a 2016 Stance 1.0 I just ordered some parts and I'm excited to start making some posts after I start putting the thing together. I also was wondering about 1x conversion, what would be a recommended setup? I do quite a bit of climbing/downhill some fast flats.

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    If there are steep extended climbs, my suggestion. XT 30t or 28 frnt chain ring. With a wide range rear ( Dynasys xt 40-30-22 . I chose the SunRace 11- 46 cassette. Due to how much climbing in my area. If you're willing to spend the money a hub replacement to go the 11spd route. Use a narrow wide chain ring w/ correct BCD.
    Now the Stance has a 135mm rear axle width. 100mm w/15mm through axle front. This may be a problem for finding wheels but, I believe Mavic has a Cross ride wheel which are not bad wheels are tubelees doable. Are affordable also if you're on a budget. If your area has a lot of rocks enduro type tyres with a tough side wall and aggressive tread pattern.
    The Stance does respond well to up grades appears to appriciate the attention .. Have fun good luck..

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    Here is my 2017 Giant Stance 1. Mods- 2.3 Maxxis High Rollers front and back Tubeless (Ardents were truly scary in the traction dept!) Fox Extra Volume Kashima DPS Rear Shock Comfie Seat, ODI Grips, Race Face Chester Pedals. I see a lot of negative things about the Stance, but I have to say, these few upgrades have transformed the bike into a great ride! The difference through the rough stuff is like night and day! I tend to think that this bike is overlooked a lot, but I love the way that it rides......definitely worth upgrading in my opinion!
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    Hell for the price these are great bikes. I think what gets them over looked is that its a " entry level" squish. But these rigs are capable of a lot . and can handle so much that's handed to them. They respond well to upgrades ( if one is willing to put in the time and money. Sure the factory wheels arent light but they can take a beating. If we look at the trance travel aside theyre really close in group set. For 400.00 bones, and wrenching time these rigs ride well. I cam from a short travel xc to this bike night and day. The Ardents do suffer on traction and durability.. Going to a 2.3 hell yes BIG DIFFERENCE! With a sturdy side wall . the bike does respond well. Hell what.
    What about a "Stance Gathering"..

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    28.7 lbs.......I have a scale where my bike hangs in my garage. 28.7 is a pretty light bike for what it is. When i put the extra volume shock on it, it transformed the bike into a very capable trail bike. All I was asking for really. If the bike is going to be 120mm, make sure its a great 120 mm. And I think the rear shock really made the biggest difference.....doesnt bottom out anymore, and allows me to pedal through the roots and rocks without upsetting the rear of the bike. Before the new shock, I couldnt dial the rear in. Now its dialed in PERFECT.

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    What forks did you put on the front ??

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    How much sag are you running in the rear? I go between 25- 28% rear 25% front

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    The fork is a 130mm Fox Rythym 34. The rear is an Extra Volume DPS Kashima...both 2017. I really cant get over how well sorted out the bike is now. It was sketchy before I did the mods. Next is a shorter stem. I feel like the stem is too long.

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    I tried 20, then 25, and then i settled at a tinge under 30. I get the full stroke of the shock when i run the sag at 29%. It could be different for the set up that you have. If you want a good deal on that DPS Extra Volume, I can send you in the right direction. He has more. Anyway the shock was a take off. Evil the following if I understand it correctly.

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    2016 1.0 upgrades.

    So far at the moment on my 2016 1.0
    Renthal Fatbar
    RaceFace Atlas Stem 50mm
    ODI Grips
    Shimano XT Wheel Set
    Maxis Minion DHF 2.3 front
    Maxis Aggressor 2.3 Rear
    Fifty-Fifty Mudguard
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    RaceFace Cheddar Pedals

    Next upgrades I would like to do is a 1x drive train and Shimano XT brakes. It's been a great bike so far. Like other comments, it responds great to upgrades. I'm a short guy and think the Stance is designed well for smaller riders. Biggest downside to this bike in my opinion is the 135mm QR on the rear, its dated and the mountain bike industry has clearly moved away from it especially those who market bikes as all around trail bikes just limits wheel options but you can always have wheels built. That being said even though this bike is labeled as cheap or entry level or whatever with a few upgrades this thing can easily hang with any other bike that's somewhat similar.
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    Nice ride Loner! I like the color scheme of the 2016. Dont know how I feel about the blue with the red......I like the blue with orange better. Yes, I think it is a bummer about the 135 QR rear end. But, its like all other things......you have to settle for the QR rear end, but overall for the cost to fun ratio, its extremely well put together. I feel as though the bike industry as a whole never wants to be stagnant, so they come up with different boost set ups, and new rear hubs, plus tires, etc so that people will have a reason to want to upgrade all the time. After all..........where would they be if you kept your bike for the next 10 years? Broke....thats what! So just enjoy it for what it is. Most of us are not professionals where every millisecond counts.......we are just out having fun on the weekends, or whenever we can ride.
    As an example, I have a friend that has a Trek, and he has around 4500k into it. I mean.....to each their own.......but 4k and above is really pushing it......for the regular people who are just out there having fun..........I ride right behind him....hes not getting to the same destination 3 minutes faster.....and I wouldnt care even if he did. I do it for me, and not for what people think, and bike snobs can be snobs......let them spend the 4 to 5k and be early adopters.....this way, us weekend warriors can enjoy the trickle down technology brings to our 2k bikes.......Thats the way I look at things......Im having just as much fun as my friend is having with a bike thats more than half the cost.....and on top of it all.......my bike has REALLY responded to the upgrades...... Remember that no matter how much you pay for a bike, you are always going to want to do upgrades.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbastante View Post
    Nice ride Loner! I like the color scheme of the 2016. Dont know how I feel about the blue with the red......I like the blue with orange better. Yes, I think it is a bummer about the 135 QR rear end. But, its like all other things......you have to settle for the QR rear end, but overall for the cost to fun ratio, its extremely well put together. I feel as though the bike industry as a whole never wants to be stagnant, so they come up with different boost set ups, and new rear hubs, plus tires, etc so that people will have a reason to want to upgrade all the time. After all..........where would they be if you kept your bike for the next 10 years? Broke....thats what! So just enjoy it for what it is. Most of us are not professionals where every millisecond counts.......we are just out having fun on the weekends, or whenever we can ride.
    As an example, I have a friend that has a Trek, and he has around 4500k into it. I mean.....to each their own.......but 4k and above is really pushing it......for the regular people who are just out there having fun..........I ride right behind him....hes not getting to the same destination 3 minutes faster.....and I wouldnt care even if he did. I do it for me, and not for what people think, and bike snobs can be snobs......let them spend the 4 to 5k and be early adopters.....this way, us weekend warriors can enjoy the trickle down technology brings to our 2k bikes.......Thats the way I look at things......Im having just as much fun as my friend is having with a bike thats more than half the cost.....and on top of it all.......my bike has REALLY responded to the upgrades...... Remember that no matter how much you pay for a bike, you are always going to want to do upgrades.....
    I totally agree, I ride with a dude who spent well over a grand more than me on his bike and I keep up with him just fine. Yea I'm not the biggest fan of my color scheme in fact that was the only thing I had to get over before I bought my bike. On the 2016 1.0 color scheme either people love it or hate it. My favorite is probably the 2018 1.0 color scheme. Biggest upgrade for me and I'm sure for many was getting rid of those Maxis Ardents. I ride a lot of loose over hard pack and those Ardents were super sketchy, with my current setup its so much better. Yes at the end of the day the Stance is a blast, and an excellent hot rod for the money. They updated the 2019 Stance to a different paint design and a 141 rear QR.

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    Loner,
    Whos to say that in a few years, we cant buy the rear chainstay, and retrofit our bikes? If you look back in my posts.....you will see that I did EXACTLY that with a 97 cannondale V 1000. I changed the chainstay/rear triangle with a 2003 Jeckyl rear triangle.....worked perfect..... I think that in a few years, you will most likely be able to get the 141 rear and retrofit it! Nothing else changed on the bike as far as geometry, cant see any reason why we wont be able to do that!
    Ill just get it painted to match my bike, and call it day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbastante View Post
    Loner,
    Whos to say that in a few years, we cant buy the rear chainstay, and retrofit our bikes? If you look back in my posts.....you will see that I did EXACTLY that with a 97 cannondale V 1000. I changed the chainstay/rear triangle with a 2003 Jeckyl rear triangle.....worked perfect..... I think that in a few years, you will most likely be able to get the 141 rear and retrofit it! Nothing else changed on the bike as far as geometry, cant see any reason why we wont be able to do that!
    Ill just get it painted to match my bike, and call it day!
    Great idea, I bet you're right about that.

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    A few more pics of my hot rod


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    Where do you live Lone? Just out of curiousity?

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    Some nice trails that i see in those pics! I was wondering if I was close, but obviously not! From Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbastante View Post
    Some nice trails that i see in those pics! I was wondering if I was close, but obviously not! From Jersey.
    Well, if your ever out this way we have some pretty awesome singletrack around these parts.

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    Nothing done yet. Just got it today. Marked down from $2300-$1600.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tangomandango View Post
    Nothing done yet. Just got it today. Marked down from $2300-$1600.


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    I'm looking at the same one. How does it feel on the trail?

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    Itís amazing. Hit 32mph downhill on a single track and was smooth as butter.


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    Got a nice deal on a left over 2018 Stance 1. Going to get it this week.

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    Still loving my '16, everything but the color anyway but it was the only choice back then. I broke all the "never upgrade your bike rules, I think I've doubled the purchase price haha. I really enjoy tweaking my bikes though so what ever

    Right away it got a set of XT wheels (tubeless) from I think Wiggle for $175, and a fork from merlin for about the same ( a better Reba but it still sucked). An all XT 1x11 from chain reaction for $378. Those mods alone took 6 pounds off the bike.

    I rode it that way for a long time, and finally got a "real" fork, Fox 34 CTD. It was a new 2016 model for $400 from Chain reaction. Could have gone with a 32 for $289 but what the heck.

    The fork was a huge improvement, I mean the back end will always follow along, hence hardtails, But I finally trust the front end to stick. However, the biggest "shock" was swapping the rear out to a fox. If the fork was 25% better, the rear is a least 50%. You don't realize just how good our rear suspension is until you take off that POS, stiction filled, unresponsive Monarch. The bike is sooo smooth now. The shock was $319 from Jenson.

    The shock was an easy swap, 7.25 x 1.75 and you only need a $5 bushing for the top of the shock, an old school fox bushing or the exact same one out of the stock rock shoc (which you won't be able to remove at home, but the new one will slide right into the fox shock with a vice.) The reason for needing the bushing is the fox will come with a new style which is too thick, but they pop out with a razor blade. Otherwise it drops right in.

    Other mods were a shorter stem and an XT front brake.

    I've moved to Moab, which is just filled with eye candy and carbon fiber on the trails. Pivots and Niners are everywhere, but I still like the bike. Hopefully by the time I wear it out I can buy something awesome.


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    Just bought my 2018 Stance 1 on closeout for $1600. That's a nice $500 discount.


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    Ongrats.!
    Youll love the wide range in back. Like some of you plans for stem, shock, forks, now wheels. After a year the seams are seperating from hard hits and knar trails. Their great bikes.
    Wow you lost 6 lbs. Nice job!

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    Took it out on its first ride today.


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    Nice bike, I got the same model and it rocks!



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    Second ride on it

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    New question here. Question about your upgrades

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    I also have changed my Stance's spec, just upgraded to an SLX/XT 1x11 setup, and a heads-up to anyone looking to switch to a 1x system without changing out the crankset, the key to getting the chainring to fit is filing down the insert tabs.

    I also upgraded to SLX M7000 brakes and moved the Maxxis High Roller II (3C MaxxTerra EXO/TR 2.3) to the back and fitting a Maxxis Aggressor (DC EXO/TR 2.3) at the front.

    Will an 11 speed cassette fit on the stock Stance hub and the 180 rotors fit fine with the SLX brakes? I want to upgrade my 2017 Stance 2 with a 1 x 11 and bigger rotor in the rear. Thanks John

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    Stance 2 upgrades

    Just wanted to share with everyone my upgrades. I spent 350.00 on Stanís Arch wheels, SLX brakes, and 11x46 32t SLX drive train. Please let me know what you think or any issues you may have had. I canít wait to get it out on the dirt next weekend.
    UPDATE: WOW! What a fun lightweight bike that rips through the dirt. Took me a minute to dial in the suspension but not bad! In fact the rides are so fun, I just installed a Brand-X external seat post dropper. Next step suspension without breaking the bank, lol.

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    Looks good, I would recommend the suspension next. A new rear shock and fork really made mine do well.

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    For Sure, I would love to go 150 on the front. Appreciate the hit back, happy trails!

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    Awesome weekend!

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    Will an 11 speed cassette fit on the stock Stance hub and the 180 rotors fit fine with the SLX brakes? I want to upgrade my 2017 Stance 2 with a 1 x 11 and bigger rotor in the rear. Thanks John
    I'm 99% sure the cassette will work, but I don't know for sure since I switched out the stock hubs for some hope's. Regarding the rotors, 180mm will fit fine on the front, but you'll need an adapter if you want a 180mm rotor on the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfinator View Post
    Did you set them up tubeless? How was that on the stock rims?

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    You've probably figured this out by now, but tubeless works fine on the stock rims. I just used some 21mm Stan's rim tape with some sealant and new tubeless-ready tires and it was good to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudee47 View Post
    You've probably figured this out by now, but tubeless works fine on the stock rims. I just used some 21mm Stan's rim tape with some sealant and new tubeless-ready tires and it was good to go!
    Ha, I had not actually. Great to know though thank you

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    Oh, we're ready for tomorrow.

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    Sorry for the delay and thanks for the post. I scored a set of Stanís Arch wheels but prior, I used some gorilla tape and went tubeless. The stock tires did not hold air for longer than a week but when I put actual tubeless tires, OMG what a difference. I kept scratching my head prior wondering why the tire wouldnít hold air and I think non tubeless just donít have the sidewall or maybe too porous to stayed sealed. Anyway, I finally ordered a seat post dropper from chain reaction, we will see how that works. I will throw another thread when I do. In the meantime, let me know if you have any questions, I have done a lot of research on the Stance 2 and I think my next upgrade will be suspension probably going with Fox?

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    I had studded tires on my 2018 Stance 1 all winter and had a blast riding it in the freezing cold. Just took them back off now that Spring is well and truly here and looking forward to the muddy trails drying soon.

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    hi guys
    I got a stance 1, it was a hold over 2016 I got for a great price last summer and haven't ridden it much. the weather has been just crap and the trails have been closed. anyway this year I made it a goal to ride my Mtb more, I mostly road bike. in southern Louisiana we don't have many choices for offroad riding.
    back to the stance, I have a dropper post mounted as my only mod / upgrade. I was thinking of going 1x since I'm almost always in the small ring anyway. I'm a terrible climber even with the small climbs we have. I found this thread and since I'm a noob I don't really know all the brands and parts needed and that some of this post is a few years old. anyway any advice you could give for upgrades and what has worked for you. I really like the bike and I guess if I get hooked on riding Mtb I may one day get an upgraded bike but this bike does all I need for now. I just need to learn how to ride it.
    thank
    rob

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