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    Quote Originally Posted by dolande View Post
    Can anyone post a picture of a small size bike please?
    I ride a original Anthem 29er 1 small and after looking at the geo I think a small Trance will fit me.
    My friend whos 55 test rode my bike which is a medium and decided on a small. She loves it! Says it fits perfect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowmenace View Post
    My friend whos 55 test rode my bike which is a medium and decided on a small. She loves it! Says it fits perfect.


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    Thanks for this info.

    I'm 5'7" and I'll try to hit a demo day before buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolande View Post
    Thanks for this info.

    I'm 5'7" and I'll try to hit a demo day before buying.
    By the way I have a medium and Im the same. 57. But I have a custom build. 125mm dropper, 170mm crankset, 30mm stem, 760mm bars. Fits great for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Liternit View Post
    I have a 5010 v2 like the bike but just hate how many pedal strikes I get on techy climbs, wanting to move to a more XC bike but not lose the downhill capabilities of the 5010. Im between Scott Spark and the new Trance 29, anyone with experience in both bikes?
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    It can be right. 13.1"=333mm (it's actually 332.74, but close enough)...that's about what my BB measures.
    The 5010 BB height is 334mm, not 384.

    Figuring out the BB height of any 29er, given only the drop, is pretty simple.

    Drop is just the distance of the center of the BB below the center of the rear wheel hub without weight on the bike.

    The radius of a 29er wheel is pretty close to 14.5" or 368mm. The drop is 1.4" or 35mm on the Trance 29.

    14.5" - 1.4" = 13.1"
    368mm - 35mm = 333mm
    333mm = 13.1"
    Another factor to consider is suspension travel. We do ride our bikes sagged. That means even lower BB.

    At same sag, chances are the 5010 is a hair lower than the Trance. It's difficult to tell because the leverage of the suspension and geometry comes into play, but very roughly at 25% sag, the Trance could get closer to the ground (vertical travel, again hard to calculate) by 28mm, while the 5010 and its 130mm would be 32.5.

    In other words, vertical displacement should be considered once we take two bikes with different travel.
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    Hello all. I have a Trance Advanced Pro 2 29 with DPS shock. I'm heavier at 225 lbs. Running .95 inch volume spacer which is the largest (I think) and I'm still getting around 30% sag with shock psi of 315. Any recommendations? Really want to get to 25%. Would the DPX2 be better at my size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicjoe View Post
    Hello all. I have a Trance Advanced Pro 2 29 with DPS shock. I'm heavier at 225 lbs. Running .95 inch volume spacer which is the largest (I think) and I'm still getting around 30% sag with shock psi of 315. Any recommendations? Really want to get to 25%. Would the DPX2 be better at my size?
    Not sure if it would be any better? I have my shock at 200psi (I weigh 175 lbs ) & its at the plush end of FoXs recommendations. I also have a super delux RC3 (same length & stroke ,max tokens) that I am going to fit & try over the next couple of months to compare? Will keep updates coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicjoe View Post
    Hello all. I have a Trance Advanced Pro 2 29 with DPS shock. I'm heavier at 225 lbs. Running .95 inch volume spacer which is the largest (I think) and I'm still getting around 30% sag with shock psi of 315. Any recommendations? Really want to get to 25%. Would the DPX2 be better at my size?
    Even at 155 pounds, the DPX2 feels more supportive than the DPS. My son, who is 160 pounds immediately saw a difference between the two.

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    Do you happen to know what size the shock is. Can't seem to find any info. Would like to possibly order DPX2 or Super Deluxe if I can't get it sorted. Called Jenson USA and they didn't have any info. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicjoe View Post
    Do you happen to know what size the shock is. Can't seem to find any info. Would like to possibly order DPX2 or Super Deluxe if I can't get it sorted. Called Jenson USA and they didn't have any info. Thanks!
    165 x 42.5 same as 2017 on 27.5Anthem

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicjoe View Post
    Hello all. I have a Trance Advanced Pro 2 29 with DPS shock. I'm heavier at 225 lbs. Running .95 inch volume spacer which is the largest (I think) and I'm still getting around 30% sag with shock psi of 315. Any recommendations? Really want to get to 25%. Would the DPX2 be better at my size?
    Hi, I have Advanced pro 1 2019 with DPX2, I have 212 lbs(96kg) , 0.6 spacer, sag 30%(13mm) with cca 285 psi. I am not sure whether smaller or larger spacer would help. It seems that the shock mount setup or these new shocks needs higher psi for heavy riders. I have just installed 203 mm front brake rotor and 34t alu chainring, but due to bad weather and snow did not ride yet with these new upgrades.

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    2019, FLOAT DPX2, P-S, A, 3pos, Trunnion, Evol LV, Giant, Trance Advanced Pro 29 1, 165, 42.5, 0.6 Spacer, CM, RLA019, Rezi L F M, TC 704 Gloss/TA 2572 Gloss Logo

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    Thanks. Yeah I have manged to get it to about 28% sag but that's with 335 lb psi. AND the larger .95in spacer. Haven't ridden it seriously yet because we're getting rain here in socal. But my quick neighborhood test on shockwiz indicated to much rebound. With the rebound set to 0 clicks. So I might just need to send it in to Fox for a custom tune. Sounds like DPX2 sits deep for us too

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicjoe View Post
    Thanks. Yeah I have manged to get it to about 28% sag but that's with 335 lb psi. AND the larger .95in spacer. Haven't ridden it seriously yet because we're getting rain here in socal. But my quick neighborhood test on shockwiz indicated to much rebound. With the rebound set to 0 clicks. So I might just need to send it in to Fox for a custom tune. Sounds like DPX2 sits deep for us too
    Yeah I have noticed during short ride that rebound is not ideal. At the fox manual you can also find that with higher psi the less click from closed position, at about 280-300 for dpx2 it should be 2 clicks, and above probably just zero. With the older fox factory float ctd on anthem it was ok. Till spring I will have to decrease my weight by 10 lbs at least back to 201 lbs :-D
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    My 2019 Trance Advanced Pro 29 0 build (DVO suspension) is listed on pinkbike.com

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    Id be interested in your shock. But I believe youre selling the whole bike. Let me know otherwise.

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    My Trance Advanced Pro 29er 1 arrived just before christmas, and so far loving it.
    Still tweaking the suspension and setup.
    Fork set at 60psi, 10 clicks rebound
    Shock set at 180psi, 8 clicks rebound.
    I weigh 73 kg (160 lbs)

    Straight out of the box I upgraded to the following:
    - Sram X01 dub carbon crankset, with 32t chainring (bike came with descendant 30t)
    - Sram X01 xg-1295 cassette
    - WTB volt pro saddle (not a fan of the giant saddle)
    - Race Face Next R 35mm carbon handlebar, 10mm rise, 800mm wide
    - Maxxis Ikon rear tyre, and Maxxis Ardent Race front (for dusty summer trails, will keep the DHF & DHR for winter or aggressive riding)
    - Esi chunky grips

    This all lowered the weight, and to my preferred setup.

    Check it further on my instagram, @mikeusmar, https://www.instagram.com/mikeusmar/

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    Just picked up a Trance 29 2 in large. I'm 5'11 with 32.5" inseam and it fits great.

    Also, since I happen to have a Stache too, I tried the ginormous 29x3 Chupacabras, which are on 46mm internal rims. The front fits with plenty of room (you could run 3.0 easy), and the rear rubs by about 1 mm.

    Note that the tire width on these Chupas is very dependent on the pressure. The front tire has 12 psi, and the rear 14 psi, and I measured 2-15/16" in width for the front tire and 3-1/16" for the rear. With less pressure, the rear tire wouldn't rub, but that's still too close for comfort.

    So I'm planning on running XR4 in 2.6 width, since 29 mid-fat FS short-travel is what I'm really after. 3.0 has a bit too much bounce on the Stache, but 2.6 should be pretty nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shartibartfast View Post
    Just picked up a Trance 29 2 in large. I'm 5'11 with 32.5" inseam and it fits great.

    Also, since I happen to have a Stache too, I tried the ginormous 29x3 Chupacabras, which are on 46mm internal rims. The front fits with plenty of room (you could run 3.0 easy), and the rear rubs by about 1 mm.

    Note that the tire width on these Chupas is very dependent on the pressure. The front tire has 12 psi, and the rear 14 psi, and I measured 2-15/16" in width for the front tire and 3-1/16" for the rear. With less pressure, the rear tire wouldn't rub, but that's still too close for comfort.

    So I'm planning on running XR4 in 2.6 width, since 29 mid-fat FS short-travel is what I'm really after. 3.0 has a bit too much bounce on the Stache, but 2.6 should be pretty nice.

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    Great. I figured a 2.6 would be no problem on this bike. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowfly View Post
    My Trance Advanced Pro 29er 1 arrived just before christmas, and so far loving it.
    Still tweaking the suspension and setup.
    Fork set at 60psi, 10 clicks rebound
    Shock set at 180psi, 8 clicks rebound.
    I weigh 73 kg (160 lbs)

    Straight out of the box I upgraded to the following:
    - Sram X01 dub carbon crankset, with 32t chainring (bike came with descendant 30t)
    - Sram X01 xg-1295 cassette
    - WTB volt pro saddle (not a fan of the giant saddle)
    - Race Face Next R 35mm carbon handlebar, 10mm rise, 800mm wide
    - Maxxis Ikon rear tyre, and Maxxis Ardent Race front (for dusty summer trails, will keep the DHF & DHR for winter or aggressive riding)
    - Esi chunky grips

    This all lowered the weight, and to my preferred setup.

    Check it further on my instagram, @mikeusmar, https://www.instagram.com/mikeusmar/

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    Try removing a volume spacer or two from the fork and upping the pressure a little. Im 76 kg at the moment and with the standard three volume spacers the fork was way too progressive. Going down to two was a big improvement. Im still figuring out whether I need to do anything on the rear (only had mine nearly a week)


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    Quote Originally Posted by gdnicoll View Post
    Try removing a volume spacer or two from the fork and upping the pressure a little. Im 76 kg at the moment and with the standard three volume spacers the fork was way too progressive. Going down to two was a big improvement. Im still figuring out whether I need to do anything on the rear (only had mine nearly a week)


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    Thanks, I had thought of doing that, as after a ride yesterday I wasn't using full travel, so will remove 1 volume spacer and try that ride again to compare.

    What pressure are you running in your fork and shock?

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    Single Track have Advanced Pro 1 on long term review

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowfly View Post
    Thanks, I had thought of doing that, as after a ride yesterday I wasn't using full travel, so will remove 1 volume spacer and try that ride again to compare.

    What pressure are you running in your fork and shock?
    Last ride was 80 psi, rebound 6-7 out. That was using most of my travel, a little spare.
    I may go up another 5 psi.

    Rear was 190 (10 out) but will try 200. Seems like I am using full travel although I dont seem to feel it


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    Any advice on the rear shock? I have the Trance 2 (float DPS, 42.5mm travel with 0.8 spacer), I followed the instructions in the Fox manual for DPS, and it doesn't seem right. It says to start with rider weight (190) and set sag up to 30% (13 mm). But I had to put in 275 psi to get to 13 mm, which seems like way to much pressure. It also says to pump it slowly 10-20 times when filling it with air, which I also did.

    I set the fork pressure using the suggestion in the manual, and it nailed the sag. I made no other adjustments. So I think my shock pump gauge is correct, at least down by 90 psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shartibartfast View Post
    Any advice on the rear shock? I have the Trance 2 (float DPS, 42.5mm travel with 0.8 spacer), I followed the instructions in the Fox manual for DPS, and it doesn't seem right. It says to start with rider weight (190) and set sag up to 30% (13 mm). But I had to put in 275 psi to get to 13 mm, which seems like way to much pressure. It also says to pump it slowly 10-20 times when filling it with air, which I also did.

    I set the fork pressure using the suggestion in the manual, and it nailed the sag. I made no other adjustments. So I think my shock pump gauge is correct, at least down by 90 psi.
    Hi, I have the same problem, but with dpx2, 0.6 spacer, 285 psi, 211 lbs, about 13mm sag. When you search through internet, you can find that all new shocks with evol air sleve(fox dps, dpx2, and even rockshox debonair) need much more PSI, especially for heavy riders. I would not care much about that, but at 285 psi, rebound set to 0 click from close is still too fast. I have contacted local Fox authorized service if this is normal and they recommend to try the largest volumespacer first before any further pricey custom tune. I have ordered the tunning kit(volume spacers) and will try next week, but I am not sure whether it can help.

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    Thanks. So maybe high presure is not a problem so much as it is just a "feature" of the DPS EVOL shocks. I haven't ridden on a trail yet (maybe tomorrow if it doesn't snow again), but I'm worried about pedal strikes.

    I don't seem to have the same issue with rebound as you, but I'll check again tonight after adding 10-20 more psi.

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    Any heavier riders (200+) have feedback on the stiffness and performance of the DVO Sapphire 34?

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    Has anyone built up a Trance 29 2 with some lighter wheels? Wondering if you can come out ahead of the Adv 2 model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laekon View Post
    Has anyone built up a Trance 29 2 with some lighter wheels? Wondering if you can come out ahead of the Adv 2 model.
    My Trance 29 2 (the blue, alloy one) is 13.3kg (29.3lbs) with pedals, water bottle cage and garmin mount included.
    Sorry, no pictures but I'll get one.

    Changes from stock:

    - Drivetrain from NX to XT 11-42. There are big savings if you get rid of the NX cassette. It's 150grs heavier than most any other.
    - Saddle (300grs stock) for a light one I had on my previous ride
    - Dumped the stock wheels for Nextie Ultralight 34 on DT 350's and Competition spokes (1,540grs). The stock wheelset is ~2.2kg. Yuge savings there.

    Other changes that are relatively cheap are tyres maybe but they are very decent at 945grs F and 890grs R.

    Handlebars are 330grs. So, a carbon bar could save another 100grs there.

    The stock wheelset on the Advanced are around 1,700grs, so they are very hard to beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    My Trance 29 2 (the blue, alloy one) is 13.3kg (29.3lbs) with pedals, water bottle cage and garmin mount included.
    Sorry, no pictures but I'll get one.

    Changes from stock:

    - Drivetrain from NX to XT 11-42. There are big savings if you get rid of the NX cassette. It's 150grs heavier than most any other.
    - Saddle (300grs stock) for a light one I had on my previous ride
    - Dumped the stock wheels for Nextie Ultralight 34 on DT 350's and Competition spokes (1,540grs). The stock wheelset is ~2.2kg. Yuge savings there.

    Other changes that are relatively cheap are tyres maybe but they are very decent at 945grs F and 890grs R.

    Handlebars are 330grs. So, a carbon bar could save another 100grs there.

    The stock wheelset on the Advanced are around 1,700grs, so they are very hard to beat.
    Is your bike size large?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimusprime View Post
    Is your bike size large?
    Negative. Mine is a Medium

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Negative. Mine is a Medium

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    That's light, for the 29 2!
    I just weighed the TRX1 wheelset that comes with the Pro 1 and Pro 2.
    The front wheel, with tape/valve, no through axle, was 850 grams.
    The rear wheel, with tape/valve and no through axle, was 950 grams.
    Total weight of 1800 grams was really pretty impressive - especially at 30mm inner width. That's off of the Pro 1, not the 29 2.

    I had replaced the wheelset with the i9 24 spoke trail 270, mainly due to better engagement, so that weight of the TR1 wheelset is without sealant residue also.

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    A Trance Advanced 2 Freed from Captivity

    Hi everyone! After about a year of test rides and reading reviews, I took the plunge and rescued a Trance Advanced Pro 29 2 from being pent up in the bike shop.

    Snowed about 2" here in Pittsburgh last night but got it out on a ride this morning anyway. It was a blast! No buyers remorse. Was annoyed with howling brakes but that went away after some varnish or something wore off.

    Everything about this bike is new to me. I'm coming off an old 26" bike ('01 Specialized Enduro FSR). I'm 195 lbs before adding a heavy pack, and loved tubeless tires. Only had 13psi for this ride in the snow, but I knew I'd never be going over about 8mph. Climbs like a mofo! I can't write a nice review like a lot of people here wrote because I'm not very familiar with new bikes, but I can add a few comments:

    I'm 5-11" with a 32.5" inseam. I love the size Large. It felt a little big to me in the parking lot ride, but on the trail today I lived it. Even while struggling during some rooted, snow-covered technical ups and downs.

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    By the way, someone posted a warning that the chain could hit the front of the chainstay and touch the cable and chip the paint. Thank you for that warning! I took an old FOX Float shock protector off my old bike and wrapped it there. It worked great! Never moved. It's just on with its velcro.
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    Thank you everyone for writing all of your reviews and comments. I read all of them.
    Last edited by Wheelspeed; 1 Week Ago at 11:56 AM. Reason: Removed weight comment
    Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    That's light, for the 29 2!
    I just weighed the TRX1 wheelset that comes with the Pro 1 and Pro 2.
    The front wheel, with tape/valve, no through axle, was 850 grams.
    The rear wheel, with tape/valve and no through axle, was 950 grams.
    Total weight of 1800 grams was really pretty impressive - especially at 30mm inner width. That's off of the Pro 1, not the 29 2.
    That is a pretty decent weight from the stock TRX1 wheelset! Albeit non-ratchet, DT internals to booth. No slouch.

    It's a pity that the 29-2 comes with such a heavy wheelset from stock. The suspension package is quite good (I'm not missing my Pike), brakes are decent too and Giant makes frames of a very decent weight in Alloy. Just putting the TRX1 wheels shaves one full pound.

    In Australia we get the 29-2, 29-1 and the Advanced 0 and 1. I didn't feel like coughing the money for the 29-1 upfront. Same as you, the so-so engagement wasn't my cup of tea. I wasn't cool with the NX drivetrain and I had a fresh XT group I could use. So I went for the 29-2. I'm still under the price I would have paid for the 29-1 and with some room for improvement.

    I'm happy with is as it is. It's already lighter than my Transition Scout. I couldn't get it lighter without spending a ton on it and the Trance is already proving faster than the Scout. No PR's yet but my fitness sucks at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    Hi everyone! After about a year of test rides and reading reviews, I took the plunge and rescued a Trance Advanced Pro 29 2 from being pent up in the bike shop.

    Snowed about 2" here in Pittsburgh last night but got it out on a ride this morning anyway. It was a blast! No buyers remorse. Was annoyed with howling brakes but that went away after some varnish or something wore off.

    Everything about this bike is new to me. I'm coming off an old 26" bike ('01 Specialized Enduro FSR). I'm 195 lbs before adding a heavy pack, and loved tubeless tires. Only had 13psi for this ride in the snow, but I knew I'd never be going over about 8mph. Climbs like a mofo! I can't write a nice review like a lot of people here wrote because I'm not very familiar with new bikes, but I can add a few comments:

    I'm 5-11" with a 32.5" inseam. I love the size Large. It felt a little big to me in the parking lot ride, but on the trail today I lived it. Even while struggling during some rooted, snow-covered technical ups and downs.

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    By the way, someone posted a warning that the chain could hit the front of the chainstay and touch the cable and chip the paint. Thank you for that warning! I took an old FOX Float shock protector off my old bike and wrapped it there. It worked great! Never moved. It's just on with its velcro.
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    Thank you everyone for writing all of your reviews and comments. I read all of them.
    Loving that colour

    We only get the advanced 1 (in green) or 0 (in black) in Australia

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    Hi all - Trance 29er 2 (AL) owner checking in. I'm sick of the heavy NX cassette and am thinking of going to SLX or XT instead. A few questions if anyone has time to assist...

    Is it worth the money/effort swapping the cassette, or are the stock wheels so heavy that I won't notice the difference?
    Are chain rings cross brand compatible, or will I need to change that too?
    Any suggestions of a reasonably priced wheel set (preferably from a shop in New Zealand)? Stans Flow MK3 can be had for $899 NZD.

    With hindsight I should have just got the Advanced 1. GX eagle, carbon rims, DPX2, better fork...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolHead209 View Post
    Hi all - Trance 29er 2 (AL) owner checking in. I'm sick of the heavy NX cassette and am thinking of going to SLX or XT instead. A few questions if anyone has time to assist...

    Is it worth the money/effort swapping the cassette, or are the stock wheels so heavy that I won't notice the difference?
    Are chain rings cross brand compatible, or will I need to change that too?
    Any suggestions of a reasonably priced wheel set (preferably from a shop in New Zealand)? Stans Flow MK3 can be had for $899 NZD.

    With hindsight I should have just got the Advanced 1. GX eagle, carbon rims, DPX2, better fork...
    I think the stock wheelset is heavy enough that you wouldn't notice. For close to $300 NZD (I'm guessing) you'd save about 165 grams. I ended up with a heavily modified Pro 1, but when I demo'd the aluminum 29 2 in the U.S., at 32 pounds, it was as fast as my $8000 26.5 lb Yeti SB5c...at least it was on the 45 minute climb I tried it on. I'd just ride it stock, and replace stuff as it wears out. You could sell it, and get a Pro 1, I suppose, but I wouldn't put a bunch of money into it. It's a nice bike, even if it is heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolHead209 View Post
    Hi all - Trance 29er 2 (AL) owner checking in. I'm sick of the heavy NX cassette and am thinking of going to SLX or XT instead. A few questions if anyone has time to assist...

    Is it worth the money/effort swapping the cassette, or are the stock wheels so heavy that I won't notice the difference?
    Are chain rings cross brand compatible, or will I need to change that too?
    Any suggestions of a reasonably priced wheel set (preferably from a shop in New Zealand)? Stans Flow MK3 can be had for $899 NZD.

    With hindsight I should have just got the Advanced 1. GX eagle, carbon rims, DPX2, better fork...
    If you want to upgrade your drive train, I've got the following (in NZ):

    - new unused GX xg-1275 cassette (off my Advanced pro 29er 1, I upgraded to X01 cassette)
    - new unused Truvativ Stylo carbon dub crankset 32t (off a procaliber, was going to put on the Trance 29er, but instead upgraded to X01 carbon crankset)
    Also have the original alloy descendant crankset with 30t

    I think you'll need to change to a sram XD driver on the hub of your Trance 29er 2, to use the GX cassette, but check first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    I think the stock wheelset is heavy enough that you wouldn't notice. I ended up with a heavily modified Pro 1, but when I demo'd the aluminum 29 2 in the U.S., at 32 pounds, it was as fast as my $8000 26.5 lb Yeti SB5c...at least it was on the 45 minute climb I tried it on. I'd just ride it stock, and replace stuff as it wears out. You could sell it, and get a Pro 1, I suppose, but I wouldn't put a bunch of money into it. It's a nice bike, even if it is heavy.
    Thanks for the reply.
    Yeah I had a Trance 27.5 2 2018 but sold it because it was a size too big and decided to get the 29er. I'm actually quite a lot faster/more comfortable overall on the 29er, even on some chunky black diamond downhill trails. Although having the right size bike helps.
    Might just live with it until it's time to upgrade in a few years, at least it will keep my fitness up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    Hi everyone! After about a year of test rides and reading reviews, I took the plunge and rescued a Trance Advanced Pro 29 2 from being pent up in the bike shop.

    Snowed about 2" here in Pittsburgh last night but got it out on a ride this morning anyway. It was a blast! No buyers remorse. Was annoyed with howling brakes but that went away after some varnish or something wore off.

    Everything about this bike is new to me. I'm coming off an old 26" bike ('01 Specialized Enduro FSR). I'm 195 lbs before adding a heavy pack, and loved tubeless tires. Only had 13psi for this ride in the snow, but I knew I'd never be going over about 8mph. Climbs like a mofo! I can't write a nice review like a lot of people here wrote because I'm not very familiar with new bikes, but I can add a few comments:

    I'm 5-11" with a 32.5" inseam. I love the size Large. It felt a little big to me in the parking lot ride, but on the trail today I lived it. Even while struggling during some rooted, snow-covered technical ups and downs.

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    By the way, someone posted a warning that the chain could hit the front of the chainstay and touch the cable and chip the paint. Thank you for that warning! I took an old FOX Float shock protector off my old bike and wrapped it there. It worked great! Never moved. It's just on with its velcro.
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    Thank you everyone for writing all of your reviews and comments. I read all of them.
    Damn, that colour is awesome! Great idea with the Lizard skins. I live in Canada and bought some studded 45nrth nicotine tires to ride on nicer days in the winter. They're pretty good on hard packed, frozen surfaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolHead209 View Post
    Hi all - Trance 29er 2 (AL) owner checking in. I'm sick of the heavy NX cassette and am thinking of going to SLX or XT instead. A few questions if anyone has time to assist...

    Is it worth the money/effort swapping the cassette, or are the stock wheels so heavy that I won't notice the difference?
    I did notice the weight of the wheelset. But I'm 62kg and I was using a 1,600grs XM1501 wheelset. So it was a rather big jump for my meager pedaling power.

    I did change the cassette straight away but I had a Shimano drivetrain at hand already.

    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolHead209 View Post
    Are chain rings cross brand compatible, or will I need to change that too?
    I used my XT gear (chain included) on the DUB Crankset/ring with no issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolHead209 View Post
    Any suggestions of a reasonably priced wheel set (preferably from a shop in New Zealand)? Stans Flow MK3 can be had for $899 NZD.

    With hindsight I should have just got the Advanced 1. GX eagle, carbon rims, DPX2, better fork...
    Try Nextie. They have an office that deals with ASNZ.
    https://www.nextie.net.au

    You can get the ones from their site or configure your own.


    I don't know in NZ but in AU we get the 29-1 which is alloy and comes with better suspension and carbon wheels. The one in Flow MTB's review.

    It all depends on what compromise you want to make.
    You can ride the bike as is (sweet out of the box) and wait for parts to wear or replace the wheelset now.

    IMHO, the biggest gain is in the wheelset.
    Again, the stock is 2,200grs on the Trance 29-2. Stans Flow are 1,900grs so that saves 300grs

    For the price difference, I preferred to go with the lesser 29-2 and upgrade the wheels. I had an XT drivetrain around, so that cost me nothing to upgrade from NX.

    In Australia, the 29-2 is AU$3,800 while the Adv-1 is 6,500. That's a big hike.

    Sometimes I think I should have gone for the 29-1 too...
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    Gray

    Thanks for the color comments folks. The gray seemed boring to me but I guess it's growing on me. My favorite is the blue that's on the aluminum frames. Maybe over the years I'll dress this one up with some blue parts like chainring, disc rotors, grips and cables. We'll see. Loving the bike though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    I think the stock wheelset is heavy enough that you wouldn't notice. For close to $300 NZD (I'm guessing) you'd save about 165 grams. I ended up with a heavily modified Pro 1, but when I demo'd the aluminum 29 2 in the U.S., at 32 pounds, it was as fast as my $8000 26.5 lb Yeti SB5c...at least it was on the 45 minute climb I tried it on. I'd just ride it stock, and replace stuff as it wears out. You could sell it, and get a Pro 1, I suppose, but I wouldn't put a bunch of money into it. It's a nice bike, even if it is heavy.

    Edit: Looks like snowfly may be able to help!
    Yeah, 32 lbs isn't bad. The reviewer below (SummitCyclery in post 451) said the Advanced 2 was 29.5 lbs with pedals. Sounds like with some new wheels, you'll be pretty close to the Advanced 2 weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    Thanks for the color comments folks. The gray seemed boring to me but I guess it's growing on me. My favorite is the blue that's on the aluminum frames. Maybe over the years I'll dress this one up with some blue parts like chainring, disc rotors, grips and cables. We'll see. Loving the bike though.
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    I test rode the alloy bike in the blue and agree with you, it's probably my favorite colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    Thanks for the color comments folks. The gray seemed boring to me but I guess it's growing on me. My favorite is the blue that's on the aluminum frames. Maybe over the years I'll dress this one up with some blue parts like chainring, disc rotors, grips and cables. We'll see. Loving the bike though.
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    I am on the other side of the fence... The blue is growing on me, but the gray looks ace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    I am on the other side of the fence... The blue is growing on me, but the gray looks ace.
    I'd get the gray.

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    Anyone on an XL? I have a L with one ride on it, and I'm thinking of taking it back for an XL when they get one in. 6' 35" inseam, with long arms. 8cm of post above the mast.
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    Definitely go XL. Im same measurement.

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    I know this bike is still relatively new, but do you think it will change much for 2020 model?

    XTR 12 speed maybe?

    Or pretty much stay the same, maybe different colour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Tech View Post
    I know this bike is still relatively new, but do you think it will change much for 2020 model?

    XTR 12 speed maybe?

    Or pretty much stay the same, maybe different colour?
    The folks at Go-Ride in Salt Lake say no changes except maybe color. I suppose it's possible that the distribution of models may change based on nation, e.g., Australian models to the U.S. or something like that.

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    Can anyone confirm what the drop is on the seatposts for the Trance29? Also if they come with some down of downtube guard for the aluminium models?

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    Weight

    Maybe my cheap luggage-scale is off. This guy says the medium sized Advaced 2 he tested was only 29.5 lbs with pedals. https://www.summitcyclery.com/blog/2...ance-29-review

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    His pedal appears to be an XT Trail SPD, so maybe 400g or so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Bob View Post
    Can anyone confirm what the drop is on the seatposts for the Trance29? Also if they come with some down of downtube guard for the aluminium models?
    Post 247 in this thread - 150mm dropper on L, 125mm on M.
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    Saddle from "2" level Trance 29 - Giant Contact neutral - 307g.

    Contact SL saddle about 210g supposedly.

    Anyone have a take-off Contact SL they want to sell from your "1" or "0" bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    Saddle from "2" level Trance 29 - Giant Contact neutral - 307g.

    Contact SL saddle about 210g supposedly.

    Anyone have a take-off Contact SL they want to sell from your "1" or "0" bike?
    Your scale is right then. I weighed mine at 309grs
    I just put a Pro Turnix I had laying around weighing 205grs.

    I have this one too... mine came very close to claimed weight and was cheap as chips.
    It matches your colour scheme to booth
    https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/.../rp-prod171086

    That Adv2 in the article looks pretty much like the Alloy 2 but with carbon wheels and frame... the weight looks in the ballpark to me.

    The big advantage is that you don't have to spend on a wheelset and you can drop some weight swapping items you'd change anyways like cassette, saddle, bars, etc.
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    And no downtube protection on aluminum models, bit strange really, rocks don't know the difference between carbon and aluminum, or do they?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    And no downtube protection on aluminum models, bit strange really, rocks don't know the difference between carbon and aluminum, or do they?!?
    I used and abused my aluminum Specialized for 10 hard years without problems. It has various dents in the downtube but it never cracked. I doubt you need to worry about it. Or, check if the downtube/bb area is similar to the carbon version and if it is, buy the protector for the carbon frame. I looked at mine and it seems to be simply glued on No screws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    I used and abused my aluminum Specialized for 10 hard years without problems. It has various dents in the downtube but it never cracked. I doubt you need to worry about it. Or, check if the downtube/bb area is similar to the carbon version and if it is, buy the protector for the carbon frame. I looked at mine and it seems to be simply glued on No screws.
    I'm not worried about it, just find it funny that marketing tells us carbon as strong as aluminum yet Giant provide more protection on carbon bikes vs aluminum. Or, it could just be cost cutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    And no downtube protection on aluminum models, bit strange really, rocks don't know the difference between carbon and aluminum, or do they?!?
    Carbon is not supposed to be as good against impact as aluminium. Or it was not supposed to in the good ole days, but if you'd ship a carbon bike without downtube protection nowadays you'd probably not sell as many bikes based on the perception that carbon is not good against impact.

    None of my aluminium bikes has had downtube protection.
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