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    Orange seal in tubes: What did I do wrong?

    For some reason when I was trying to inject Orange Seal into my tubes it was a shear pain in the ass.

    It would not go in. I had the valve core removed but for some reason it would spray everywhere instead of just going in the damn tube.

    I eventually got it to go in the stupid tube after wasting around $20 of the crap, but still, why was there such resistance against it going in? And how do you keep it from clogging up the valve? It seems like it would dry out on the inside rather quickly.

    I tried this using both the stan's injector and the orange seal injector, but both failed in the same way for the most part.


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    Why not tubeless, first off?

    Were they brand new tubes? Sometimes, pumping some air in them first to give them shape helps.

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    They were new.

    And tubeless, I worry that it won't work well with my nokians and touring type tires. Although at $10 per tube for the size I need (it has to cover two sizes of tires) I am seriously considering it.

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    You can't try filling the tube when the valve is at the 6 o'clock position. When it's set up like that, the bike's weight pushes the bottom section of the tube up to the inside end of the valve. Rotate the valve to the 7 or 8 o'clock position and try again.
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    I didn't even have it in the tire and it did this!

    Also, does this stuff dry out in there really quickly if you don't put the valve core back in soon enough?

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    Install the tube into the tire as you would normally and then inject the Orange Seal. That will help give you some resistance against the force of the injector. As for how the stuff actually works, from what I've read it seems to foam up inside the tube/tire and then seals punctures from there. It shouldn't take too long to put the valve core back in, nor would I expect that delay to cause it to give you any significant issues inflating the tire afterward.
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    How often should this stuff be flushed out?

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    just go tubeless!

    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    And tubeless, I worry that it won't work well with my nokians and touring type tires. Although at $10 per tube for the size I need (it has to cover two sizes of tires) I am seriously considering it.
    I've been running Forte metro-K 35C tires tubeless on Mavic TN719's with the Stan's rim kit (over Gorilla tape) and homebrew sealant for 2 months now with zero flats. After the initial seal they air up to 80 psi(!) without a problem, just need some topping off with air twice a week. Never had a nicer ride on pavement...
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    Why not just run regular tubes with plain old air and be done with it?

    Disregard if you bike in an area with cacti and thorns which flatten tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattnmtns View Post
    Why not just run regular tubes with plain old air and be done with it?

    Disregard if you bike in an area with cacti and thorns which flatten tires.
    ...or you ride your *touring* tires over curbs that give you pinch flats. or broken glass/crack vials/used needles (baltimore, what can i say) that flattens tires. or you want lower rolling resistance. or...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turduckenator View Post
    ...or you ride your *touring* tires over curbs that give you pinch flats. or broken glass/crack vials/used needles (baltimore, what can i say) that flattens tires. or you want lower rolling resistance. or...
    Learn to bunny hop and pick your lines better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turduckenator View Post
    ...or you ride your *touring* tires over curbs that give you pinch flats. or broken glass/crack vials/used needles (baltimore, what can i say) that flattens tires. or you want lower rolling resistance. or...
    Tire sealant is useless for sealing pinch flats or any other type of cut, it does generally work well for punctures.

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    Ghetto tubeless at 80 psi is asking for a blowout.
    To answer your question I think orangeseal uses aluminum
    shavings as the flake that seals a puncture. Sometimes that crud
    gets clogged in the nozzle when trying to squirt in. For tubeless
    you just break the tire off the bead and pour right in.
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