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    Old bike with new components Vs. New bike with old components

    Let's say you're after trail riding and you've got to choose one of the following bikes, both used bikes. You have a 2005 Marin Rock Springs, and a 2010 Specialized XC Comp Disc FSR. Both were sold at almost the same price when they were new.

    Even though Marin is an old bike, it has some nice upgrades:

    17.5" Marin Rock Springs frame
    Fox Float R rear shock
    Fox Vanilla R forks
    Shimano XT chainset - New upgrade
    Shimano XT rear derailleur - New upgrade
    Shimano LX front derailleur
    Shimano Deore shifters
    RaceFace chainrings - New upgrade
    Hayes Nine brakes - Upgrade[/SIZE]

    Upgraded bars and stem
    Mavic wheels - Upgrade
    Charge saddle - Upgrade
    Lock-on grips - Upgrade


    This is the actual bike:
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    On the other hand we have this Specialized bike that is 5 year younger and it has these features:

    FSR XC M4 tubing, rocker design, bolt on cable guides, 120mm travel, sealed cartridge pivot bearings, disc only, replaceable rear derailleur hanger
    REAR SHOCK
    X Fusion 02RLA, Custom tuned for Specialized, rebound adj. w/lock-out, 7.5x1.75", 2 bearing upper shock mount
    FORK
    Rock Shox Tora SLite, 120mm travel, alloy steer, magnesium lower, rebound and preload adj. w/ LO
    HEADSET
    1-1/8" threadless, loose ball
    STEM
    3D forged alloy, 4-bolt, 31.8mm, adjustable rise
    HANDLEBARS
    XC low rise, 6061 butted alloy, 660mm wide, 8 degree back sweep, 6 degree up
    GRIPS
    Specialized waffle lock on grip (S/M) Specialized thick lock on grip (L/XL)
    FRONT BRAKE
    Avid Juicy 3 SL hydraulic disc, alloy backed brake pads, caliper/adapter w/ Clean Sweep Rotor, S/M: 185mm, L/XL: 203mm
    REAR BRAKE
    Avid Juicy 3 SL full hydraulic, alloy backed brake pads, w/ Clean Sweep Rotor, S/M: 160mm, L/XL: 185mm rotor
    BRAKE LEVERS
    Avid Juicy 3 SL Hydraulic
    FRONT DERAILLEUR
    Shimano FD-M590 Deore, 34.9mm clamp, top swing, bottom pull
    REAR DERAILLEUR
    Shimano RD-M662 SLX Shadow, long cage
    SHIFT LEVERS
    Shimano SL-M531 Deore, trigger
    CASSETTE
    Shimano HG50, 9-speed, 11-34t
    CHAIN
    KMC X9 w/ reuseable Missing Link
    CRANKSET
    Shimano FC-M442, Octalink Spline, replaceable rings w/ alloy outer, S: 170mm, others: 175mm
    CHAINRINGS
    44A x 32S x 22S
    BOTTOM BRACKET
    Shimano BB-ES25, Octalink spline, cartridge bearing, 68mm x 118mm
    PEDALS
    Alloy body and cage, 9/16"
    RIMS
    Alex RHD, disc, double wall w/ eyelets, 32h
    FRONT HUB
    Forged alloy, hi/low flange, double sealed, ground race, machined disc mount, 32h, QR
    REAR HUB
    Disc, double sealed cartridge bearing, high/low flange w/ OS contact side, 32h, QR
    SPOKES
    1.8mm (15g) stainless
    FRONT TYRE
    Specialized The Captain Sport, 26.2.2", 60 TPI, wire bead
    REAR TYRE
    Specialized The Captain Sport, 26x2.0", 60 TPI, wire bead
    INNER TUBES
    Schraeder valve
    SADDLE
    Specialized Rival, Body Geometry, 143mm width, front and rear bumpers
    SEATPOST
    6061 alloy, 2-bolt micro adjust setback head, 30.9mm
    SEAT BINDER
    Alloy collar w/ QR, 34.9mm clamp ID

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    Which bike would you buy if they were priced the same?

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    Looks like you have made your mind up. You can post the Spesh for sale with a copy and paste.

    Both look as new. Keep what you like riding and what suits where you ride. You already knew that though I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    You can post the Spesh for sale with a copy and paste.
    Not sure what you meant by that...

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    I mean't it looks like you detailed it so accurately, it is an ad waiting to be posted. It looks like you want to keep the Marin to me. Could be wrong though

    Edit::::: Sorry sorry, now I get it - these are the choices for your purchase. I thought you were keeping one and selling the other. If the components are new, then they matter. If they are not new, the frame and your preferred suspension are the only issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    I mean't it looks like you detailed it so accurately, it is an ad waiting to be posted. It looks like you want to keep the Marin to me. Could be wrong though
    No, I haven't made my mind up yet. It's been more than one month that I review bikes on a daily basis and still no decision. Though I am more inclined towards Marin in this case- it looks sturdier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adi700 View Post
    No, I haven't made my mind up yet. It's been more than one month that I review bikes on a daily basis and still no decision. Though I am more inclined towards Marin in this case- it looks sturdier.
    It does - high single pivot variation. Good going downhill;. Check in the Marin forum for owners' advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    It does - high single pivot variation. Good going downhill;. Check in the Marin forum for owners' advice
    How much would you pay for Marin?
    Bicyclebluebook lists it as:

    MSRP New: $1,710
    BBB Value:
    $511 (Like-New)
    $487 (Excellent)
    $438 (Good)
    $326 (Fair)

    But this is the estimate without the upgrades.

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    I am not sure I would want that Marin for trail riding. Seems like a lot of travel and a lot of weight and not such great pedaling. Looks like it will tear up a downhill though.
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    I'd get the Specialized. FS has come a long way. Though I might hold out. I don't have saddle time on the old FSR XCs, but I think they're the tail end of the last generation of suspension.
    "Don't buy upgrades; ride up grades." -Eddy Merckx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    It does - high single pivot variation. Good going downhill;. Check in the Marin forum for owners' advice
    The marin actually uses a quad link 1.0 TARA rear suspension.

    OP, What type of riding will you be doing?

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    That FSR XC was my first "real" mountain bike. I had previously been riding a $400 Trek Wahoo as that was all I could afford.

    After I finished residency training and had a lot more money I splurged and paid something like $1800 for it. I wasn't conceptually ready to pay any more than that.

    It was a great gateway bike (leading me into my current addiction to hard bikes). With that said, now that I know more I'd go for the Marin...strictly based on the components.

    Of course, they're both 26ers which I have left in the dust. Can't even ride them anymore, they feel like clown bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post

    OP, What type of riding will you be doing?
    I am after trail riding and some downhill. No one gave a price estimate here.

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    I would lean toward the Marin for that riding. I would think both bikes would be somewhere in the 4-600 range.

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    Updates: Marin was sold for $700 on an eBay auction.
    The Specialized is for sale at $857.
    What's going on with the sellers? The prices they ask for are always off from the estimates you find in bicyclebluebook, bikepedia or from the opinions of riders here on MBTR.

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    Economics - those in it for money will aim to get the maximum amount they can, and generally that amount is determined by their competition.

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    I think bicycle blue book is pretty far off the mark.

    People also tend to overvalue things they own, and undervalue things they don't. It makes us feel better about our own choices.
    "Don't buy upgrades; ride up grades." -Eddy Merckx

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