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    Don't you just love..

    When they don't put crappy thrash metal over the video?


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    That's what the mute button is for.
    Bicycles don’t have motors or batteries.:nono:

    Ebikes are not bicycles :nono:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej View Post
    That's what the mute button is for.
    I like hearing the bike. The tyres skipping on the trail, the best soundtrack you could have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    I like hearing the bike. The tyres skipping on the trail, the best soundtrack you could have.
    This is what I want to hear when I watch a ride video. It puts me on the bike so to speak and on the adventure.
    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    I'm with the pig also, for the reasons DJ mentioned.

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    Exactly....and when they do put the music in....i turn on the mute button.

    I'm all for the raw sounds.
    Bicycles don’t have motors or batteries.:nono:

    Ebikes are not bicycles :nono:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    This is what I want to hear when I watch a ride video. It puts me on the bike so to speak and on the adventure.
    Totally makes it doesn't it?

    Music on this one but still a cute video. Kids are a lot better than me :0(


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    That first video is awesome, that's why I don't listen to music while I'm ridding. Takes away from my experience.

    Those kids rule too.
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    I like when there's music and sometimes I like it raw with just the sound of bike and nature.

    There's no best way. It's subjective always has been and always will be. Just enjoy the video if not then don't watch or mute it.

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    I put music in my videos to hide my undignified huffing and puffing
    *Not a real mountain biker

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconpunch79 View Post
    I put music in my videos to hide my undignified huffing and puffing
    Well don't, ok?

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    I don't put music in my videos because I don't make videos.

    However when I used to make ski videos, I used to talk to myself. Watching them back potentially days/weeks later, I didn't realize how MUCH I talked to myself.

    "Oh sweet, a drop, uh, hit that a little short."
    "looks like a climb here, lets do it, rockin rockin rockin rockin-ahhhhhh, got it."
    "That was good, next drop, going to wheelie it. Here it comes, weeeee!"

    I mean it isn't loud, so people around me can't hear it, but when listening back on the Go-Pro you can hear it.

    So if I show videos to people, I usually covered it with music of some sort to hide my gibberish mumbling.

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    I'm 50/50 on the subject, I really liked the video with no soundtrack, but sometimes the music adds to it too. I also really liked the complete lack of slo-mo too.


    I don't listen to music while I ride but last night my phone rang while I was riding, blasting down a fast section of singletrack with A Hard Days Night blaring out of my CamelBak just behind my head was quite enjoyable, maybe I should reconsider....

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconpunch79 View Post
    I put music in my videos to hide my undignified huffing and puffing
    And other much less dignified emanations.

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    Music CAN add something to a video. But all too often, with amateurs, they put in something just because they like the tune, not necessarily because it helps to set the atmosphere of the video.

    Like thrash metal on a fairly mellow xc trail that's POV footage only. Worse if from only a single angle.

    I see a lot of it in the last year or so that the really good pro, semi-pro, and skilled amateur stuff HEAVILY de-emphasizes POV footage. It makes use of a lot of off-the-bike footage and may have bits and pieces of POV stuff. Background sound often goes from "mute the riding sounds entirely and blast something heavy" to layering the riding sounds with music that fits the mood of the final vid. Maybe the whole thing is nothing but riding sounds like the first vid shown, or maybe there are pauses in the music where you only hear riding sounds. But the end result is that the music actually adds to the video.

    I can't stand trolling youtube for videos of trails I know, or am looking to ride for the first time. There are so many terrible ones I can't tolerate. It's the biggest reason I don't use my own GoPro all that much anymore. I recognize that I'm not nearly as skilled at producing videos as I wish I was and I have a hard time watching my own stuff. I don't like making videos enough to sit down and work on getting better at it.

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    Well produced videos of quality riders are great but it's a travesty that YouTube is awash with crap videos of crap riders. I'm rubbish at mountain biking so why on earth should I think that other people would want to see my pathetic efforts? Yet there they are, teetering down granny's garden path with a GoPro nailed to their heads and death metal blasting out.

    If that's you, please go straight to YouTube and delete the product of your masturbation. The world will thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Well produced videos of quality riders are great but it's a travesty that YouTube is awash with crap videos of crap riders. I'm rubbish at mountain biking so why on earth should I think that other people would want to see my pathetic efforts? Yet there they are, teetering down granny's garden path with a GoPro nailed to their heads and death metal blasting out.

    If that's you, please go straight to YouTube and delete the product of your masturbation. The world will thank you.
    Curses! There goes my career in bad mountain biking porn...*sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSpice View Post
    I don't put music in my videos because I don't make videos.

    However when I used to make ski videos, I used to talk to myself. Watching them back potentially days/weeks later, I didn't realize how MUCH I talked to myself.

    "Oh sweet, a drop, uh, hit that a little short."
    "looks like a climb here, lets do it, rockin rockin rockin rockin-ahhhhhh, got it."
    "That was good, next drop, going to wheelie it. Here it comes, weeeee!"

    I mean it isn't loud, so people around me can't hear it, but when listening back on the Go-Pro you can hear it.

    So if I show videos to people, I usually covered it with music of some sort to hide my gibberish mumbling.
    I make ride videos uncut with all the natural sounds. I also purposely talk to narrate parts so those watching can understand what I'm trying to convey.
    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    When they don't put crappy thrash metal over the video?

    Very nice. Thrash metal is actually a rarity these days. It's mostly hip hop, rap and dubstep. I'm sure my parents hated punk rock, but I cannot stand dubstep. Don't know how these kids listen to that today. NOW GET OFF MY LAWN (Ow my back).

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    But... he's riding in the wet, cutting corners and skidding into corners, isn't each of those punishable by death?
    All the gear and no idea.

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    The Pig is always right! And this thread reminds me of why the only reason I should ever buy a go pro is to do musical stuff. And btw I am not a metal player.

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    There is nothing wrong with GoPro'ing your rides, or whatever you are filming.

    The issue is that people think for whatever reason that it needs to be broadcast to the world.

    I wonder how many mainframes worth of storage are being eaten up with Youtube videos with sub 100 views. I guess people think they will become the next big youtube sensation and strike it rich by posting BS.

    (I actually take a lot of video with my GoPro. Skiing, mountain bike, motorcycle in twisties, scubadiving, etc. I just keep it in my personal files, lol.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Surf View Post
    Thrash metal is actually a rarity these days. It's mostly hip hop, rap and dubstep.
    Yip, these are just as bad. Fail to see how they qualify as music myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConchoBill View Post
    The Pig is always right!
    I did make a mistake once, but at the time, getting married seemed like such a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSpice View Post
    I wonder how many mainframes worth of storage are being eaten up with Youtube videos with sub 100 views.
    And just because you have views doesn't mean that most of those views did not think 'feck, what a waste of three minutes!'. The world is being taken over by noisy people, and they have nothing to say.

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    To my ears, music rarely adds anything to a video. A good video, like the first one posted, stands nicely on it's own. Music is often a crutch for weak content. Plus, there seems to be a mania about music being an indispensable accompaniment to all things - videos, restaurants, stores, bus stations, waiting rooms, etc., etc. As if nothing can be processed, purchased, consumed or endured without music. It's way overdone, and so often done poorly. I do like music - very much, in fact. Just maybe not the same stuff as others like, and I wouldn't assume others share my taste either. Which I suppose is why indiscriminately adding your favorite track will be a miss for so many viewers.
    Use it, use it, use it while you still have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSpice View Post
    There is nothing wrong with GoPro'ing your rides, or whatever you are filming.

    The issue is that people think for whatever reason that it needs to be broadcast to the world.

    I wonder how many mainframes worth of storage are being eaten up with Youtube videos with sub 100 views. I guess people think they will become the next big youtube sensation and strike it rich by posting BS.

    (I actually take a lot of video with my GoPro. Skiing, mountain bike, motorcycle in twisties, scubadiving, etc. I just keep it in my personal files, lol.)
    I'm sorry to come off as rude but I think you're completely wrong.

    Youtube has never been about broadcasting only professional grade videos. It's free for the world to upload anything they damn well please. If you want professional quality videos then you have a TV...just hook it up to Netflix or your choice of cable provider.

    It's this type of mentality I don't like. What if I want to upload my ride video for my friends and family to watch? it may not get a lot of views but that doesn't mean it's not right for one to upload it. There are so many reasons why one can upload a video even if it's done by a non pro rider. What if you want to see a tour of the trails? Did you ever think the uploader wants a backup incase he loses his video files at home?

    So to my point NOT EVERYONE is about views and getting rich.

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    Bad music is a huge offender, but the volume level of music vs dialogue can be just as bad. Sometimes I'll watch videos with my mouse on the volume slider so I can turn down the music and turn up the dialogue. The Santa Cruz syndicate videos are huge offenders of this. Between Ratboy's thick accent and Minnar being so soft spoken I can't understand a thing either of them say without cranking up the volume when they speak, which makes the (bad) music ear bleed volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasp4Air View Post
    Plus, there seems to be a mania about music being an indispensable accompaniment to all things - videos, restaurants, stores, bus stations, waiting rooms, etc., etc. As if nothing can be processed, purchased, consumed or endured without music.
    Totally! Rips my knitting. There is a bowling ally in the town, I've been in it once. They play crap music really loud on tiny, distorted speakers and it completely ruins the place.

    Music can add to a video sometimes though. Sometimes...


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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidSpin View Post
    What if I want to upload my ride video for my friends and family to watch?
    Does your granny like shite music too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidSpin View Post
    I'm sorry to come off as rude but I think you're completely wrong.

    Youtube has never been about broadcasting only professional grade videos. It's free for the world to upload anything they damn well please. If you want professional quality videos then you have a TV...just hook it up to Netflix or your choice of cable provider.

    It's this type of mentality I don't like. What if I want to upload my ride video for my friends and family to watch? it may not get a lot of views but that doesn't mean it's not right for one to upload it. There are so many reasons why one can upload a video even if it's done by a non pro rider. What if you want to see a tour of the trails? Did you ever think the uploader wants a backup incase he loses his video files at home?

    So to my point NOT EVERYONE is about views and getting rich.
    Youtube was designed for the average person to post their videos. So in the true intent in mind, yes, you can post whatever you want.

    I could take a dump on camera and as long as I reduce the skin content to follow Youtube's ToS, could post it up. Hey, I need records of my bowel movements in case my "Log of Logs" diary gets lost!

    Maybe I will create a channel of daily movements so the world can see.

    There is a very big difference between CAN and SHOULD. People are focusing too much on what they can do, not what they should be doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    When they don't put crappy thrash metal over the video?

    I dig the front tire tap on a couple of the takeoffs.
    That's something you can't hear with a cheesy butt-rock music bed.

    Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owosso View Post
    I dig the front tire tap on a couple of the takeoffs.
    Yeah, I thought that was cool too. In fact I've watched the video a few times just to see those bits. I've never seen anyone do that before.

    I really like the way the sound let you know more about what he's doing. You can hear those taps, the scrabbling into corners and the bike skipping over the surface. Really good riders don't need to use lame music to try and convince up they're good, the riding speaks for itself.

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