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    Clickbait alert - ad for a bulky slip-on device that goes onto the end of a handlebar, to improve the viability of leaning a bike against the wall by its handlebar end by increasing surface area contact.

    Can make a functional copy of your own by poking a hole into a small cardboard bike the size of your grip. Or lean the bike by the rear tire; easy to scrub tire marks and less likely to fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Clickbait alert - ad for a bulky slip-on device that goes onto the end of a handlebar, to improve the viability of leaning a bike against the wall by its handlebar end by increasing surface area contact.

    Can make a functional copy of your own by poking a hole into a small cardboard bike the size of your grip. Or lean the bike by the rear tire; easy to scrub tire marks and less likely to fall.
    Looks hollowed out, not bulky:
    https://www.instagram.com/wp1mtb/

    Cardboard box approach sounds ghetto

    The tire kick test in the review seemed solid

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    Tons of alternatives if people even have imagination. Cardboard can be made all fancy too. People can use one of their hoarded toilet paper rolls to do the same.

    I have my doubts that it's a problem many people would be willing to pay for a solution, but can prove me wrong. Tons of ppl buying cheap bikes at the moment.
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    It's not a bad product, but I'd argue that most people who are going to buy it are also willing to invest in a more elegant storage solution than just leaning your bike against the wall. Velohook or Steadyrack are both the jam, imo.

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    Cheaper than strava

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfly View Post
    It's not a bad product, but I'd argue that most people who are going to buy it are also willing to invest in a more elegant storage solution than just leaning your bike against the wall. Velohook or Steadyrack are both the jam, imo.
    WP1 is better for apartments - no drilling or adhesives needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    WP1 is better for apartments - no drilling or adhesives needed
    Or get a Feedback stand and display the bike right.
    . . . . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by scatterbrained View Post
    Or get a Feedback stand and display the bike right.
    WP1 is better for constrained spaces b/c it only adds about 1/2" to the existing footprint

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    I just got a scorpion stand. No footprint beyond what the bike would be using and doubles as a very easy place to lube and wipe your chain. Also was a great place to stand my bike up while I had the fork in my work stand for service.

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    Not a bad idea. Someone was doing some problem solving. My solution is a thing I call a ďgarage.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    Tire marks on the walls or you have a Huffy...
    Get fAt, Stay fAt, Ride fAt
    Doctor recommended...

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    I'm thinking that if you do not have enough foresight or care to avoid wrecking your wall in the first place you're unlikely to buy or correctly use a device aimed at helping do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Not a bad idea. Someone was doing some problem solving. My solution is a thing I call a ďgarage.Ē
    Not an option for many and can even save space in a garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    I'm thinking that if you do not have enough foresight or care to avoid wrecking your wall in the first place you're unlikely to buy or correctly use a device aimed at helping do that.
    Given a choice between a messed up wall and a pristine wall, I think most would prefer a pristine wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    Not an option for many and can even save space in a garage
    Sigh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fajita Dave View Post
    I just got a scorpion stand. No footprint beyond what the bike would be using and doubles as a very easy place to lube and wipe your chain. Also was a great place to stand my bike up while I had the fork in my work stand for service.
    I googled the Scorpion stand but it looks like it sticks out 6 inches and seems like it could be easy to trip over in constrained spaces, especially at night in a place like an apartment

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfly View Post
    It's not a bad product, but I'd argue that most people who are going to buy it are also willing to invest in a more elegant storage solution than just leaning your bike against the wall. Velohook or Steadyrack are both the jam, imo.
    Yeah, if you have only one bike and plenty of space to keep it on the floor, this might be fine. I'd still lean the bike against the wall with a tire, and if I wanted to prevent tire scuffs on the wall, I'd put something up to prevent the tire scuffs on the wall. I wouldn't use the handlebar as the main support.

    But multiple bikes indoors? Psh, give me a break. They take up too much space on the floor and if you're trying to maximize space, you need to get them up (hence the more elegant solutions you mention). To save floor (and wall) space in my garage, I'm using an electric hoist (Garage Gator) to get bikes up in the air. Now THAT saves space and prevents wall scuffs. For the two bikes my wife and I use most freqently, I have a rack made out of pvc pipe. This thing is pretty useless in a garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Tire marks on the walls or you have a Huffy...
    ...and a $50 repaint fee upon moveout

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    ...and a $50 repaint fee upon moveout
    you're not creative enough

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    Makes sense for an apartment dweller who parks their bike by the door. Small lightweight device that is easy to move with. I don't have a use for it though. Seems like the fixie kids are a better potential market.

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    ...and a $50 repaint fee upon moveout
    What's your angle here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    you're not creative enough

    Cool setup but not really a space saver for a single bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    What's your angle here?
    My guess is that the OP either is the guy selling the product (in which case this is spam), knows the guy selling the product (in which case he's trying to be helpful but it's still spam), or just wants one really badly (in which case just go ahead and buy one already and quit trying to convince everyone that this is the greatest invention in bike history. It's not like this is electronic shifting or droppers or something game-changing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    Cool setup but not really a space saver for a single bike
    of course not. a 3rd bike was added not long after I built it. it was definitely meant for multiple bikes and other gear. in an apartment, so nothing is screwed into the wall. this is a free-standing rack, which leans against the wall (with felt pads to protect the wall), and I used cardboard shims to wedge it against the ceiling to keep it stable.

    my point is that if you want to save space, this product you linked isn't the thing to do it. you need to look at your specific arrangement and find a better solution. but generally speaking, bike on the floor isn't saving anyone any space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    I googled the Scorpion stand but it looks like it sticks out 6 inches and seems like it could be easy to trip over in constrained spaces, especially at night in a place like an apartment
    It's directly under the bike and only slightly wider than pedal spacing on one side. You'll catch yourself on the handlebars first even if it's a road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    but generally speaking, bike on the floor isn't saving anyone any space.
    If you have a 2-3ft x 6ft space by your doorway then you will absolutely save space by parking your bike there b/c it would otherwise be unused space

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    B/c it would otherwise be unused space
    especially if you're unable to think a little creatively

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    especially if you're unable to think a little creatively
    You're overthinking this my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fajita Dave View Post
    It's directly under the bike and only slightly wider than pedal spacing on one side. You'll catch yourself on the handlebars first even if it's a road bike.
    Personally I prefer the minimal footprint of the WP1 and I'm not aware of a more minimal solution than the WP1. And looks like the average person could probably mount their bike to the WP1 slightly more quickly than to the Scorpion. The Scorpion seems like a fine product and obviously you're a fan. I just prefer the simplicity of the WP1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    Personally I prefer the minimal footprint of the WP1 and I'm not aware of a more minimal solution than the WP1.
    Cut a hole in an old racquet ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    Cut a hole in an old racquet ball.
    The WP1 provides a lot more surface contact area against the wall to provide a lot more balance and stability. Also the tapered insertion tube provides a lot better handlebar grip than a hole in a racquetball. I love racquetball though and can't wait until the gym reopens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfly View Post
    It's not a bad product, but I'd argue that most people who are going to buy it are also willing to invest in a more elegant storage solution than just leaning your bike against the wall. Velohook or Steadyrack are both the jam, imo.
    Is this the velohook you're talking about? The Velo Hinge?

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    OMG, I bet that was just a April fool's video originally. and then to the surprise to the maker people actually took it serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
    OMG, I bet that was just a April fool's video originally. and then to the surprise to the maker people actually took it serious.
    This gets my vote, altho if I used one of those, I'd mount it to the wall poignantly (thanks, Swipe!) err, permanently, and then suffer the $1,500 deposit loss to repair the "damage" if I ever moved out.
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    "The challenge is not in developing new ideas, but in escaping old ideas."

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    Itís a F-ing coaster. Not super exciting. Buy it or donít.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Buy it or donít.
    Don't tell me what to do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Itís a F-ing coaster. Not super exciting. Buy it or donít.
    Should have been the name: Bicoaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    You're overthinking this my friend
    it's not difficult to buy a different product that actually does save space (if that's your goal), or make your own space-saving bike storage.

    I kept my bike inside my dorm room in college, and crammed one into my closet-office (which I shared) in grad school. I have a friend who squeezed two bikes into his tiny dorm room. We managed this without spending a dime, using a little creative thinking.

    I'm certainly not your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    Don't tell me what to do!
    Okay then, don't buy it or don't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Okay then, don't buy it or don't!
    Aaaaaarrrrgh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    Aaaaaarrrrgh!
    Donít not donít buy it or donít?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Itís a F-ing coaster. Not super exciting. Buy it or donít.
    Tried to rep you, but it has been too soon since the last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    it's not difficult to buy a different product that actually does save space (if that's your goal), or make your own space-saving bike storage.

    I kept my bike inside my dorm room in college, and crammed one into my closet-office (which I shared) in grad school. I have a friend who squeezed two bikes into his tiny dorm room. We managed this without spending a dime, using a little creative thinking.

    I'm certainly not your friend.
    Like Harold, I did the same thing in college, work, and found creative solutions.

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    I think this has already been invented.....Google - rebar safety cap.

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    Personally I see multiple bike leaned up against a wall as stupid. You could buy a vertical rack and put two bikes in the space of one, or if you only have one bike buy a freestanding floor rack that holds the bike upright in a corner. Or you can do what apartment dwellers the world over have done for years and put a hole in the wall. I can't imagine someone willing to hang pictures in an apartment but unwilling to hang a bike on the wall. You can even hang the bike flat against the wall and use it as wall art over the sofa. What I always did when renting was to mount bike racks to a board and then use deck screws to mount the board to the wall, that way the holes were small and easily filled.
    . . . . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Dog View Post
    I think this has already been invented.....Google - rebar safety cap.
    Now that's funny.
    . . . . . . . .

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    I read the other week about a guy who got a length of rebar through his head and survived!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Dog View Post
    I think this has already been invented.....Google - rebar safety cap.
    Spent packaging materials... Keeps it outta the landfill!
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    Doctor recommended...

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