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    Bought a rowing machine

    There isn't a fitness section, maybe there should be, but anyway.

    Every year around this time the sun vanishes, it gets cold, wet and horrible so chances to cycle are few and far between. Trying to keep fit over the winter is not easy but I had a brain wave. Rowing machine.

    Good cardio, works the legs, works the upper body and arms too, what's not to like? I'll let you know how...if it works ;0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    There isn't a fitness section, maybe there should be, but anyway.

    Every year around this time the sun vanishes, it gets cold, wet and horrible so chances to cycle are few and far between. Trying to keep fit over the winter is not easy but I had a brain wave. Rowing machine.

    Good cardio, works the legs, works the upper body and arms too, what's not to like? I'll let you know how...if it works ;0)
    They get too monotonous for me, and I say the same thing about vertical climbers and other 1 dimensional exercise machines.

    Winter is probably the best time to ride around here, but I'm thinking about one of the electronic trainers and something like Zwift or one of the other virtual riding world apps when I can't get out and ride.
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    Yeah, I have a NordicTrack ski machine out in the barn, and my god, it was boring. It's not so bad at first, when you are building up to a quezillion reps, but once you're on it for half-hour, 45 minutes, you just want to say phuck it!

    Never did use it enough to help me with my cycling, I don't think.
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    Rowing machine is a great workout. Good move (if you have the room to store it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    what's not to like?
    Sitting inside on a rowing machine, that's what. Same as treadmill and bike trainer, boring. I find even trying to watch TV while I do it doesn't help much.

    I run and ride year round where I live, I think the coldest I've run in was 22F and I've ridden just below freezing. But it is tough with the short daylight, I only get to bike on the weekend, but that's mostly what I do year round. Every winter I say I'm going to hit the trainer but only get a ride or two in; same with the treadmill. One thing I found does help is doing intervals rather than just slogging out a constant speed for distance. At least this offers a little variety.

    But good luck with it.
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    I must be weird, I love my Concept 2 rower. I don't use it for hours at a time, usually a 5k, some strength training (pullups, pushups, etc) and then a tabata workout on the rower. Not enough time to get bored for me. But, I also love running on treadmills, so I may be in the minority on that.

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    Yo, OP, HTFU. Horrible? Like 8 feet of snow in a year? Try this. Get some wool, fleece and a sense of adventure. Got snow up north? Try hiking boots, skis or a fat bike. A rowing machine will become just be a clothes rack. Would seem worse than a bike trainer, ugg. And send me some of that Lagavulin, that stuff is the bomb

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    Rowing machines work different back muscles than a lot of other pieces of exercise equipment. I find that the muscles groups that are worked help me to be able to stay on a bike a lot longer. I normally only do it for a few hundred reps though. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    There isn't a fitness section, maybe there should be, but anyway.

    Every year around this time the sun vanishes, it gets cold, wet and horrible so chances to cycle are few and far between. Trying to keep fit over the winter is not easy but I had a brain wave. Rowing machine.

    Good cardio, works the legs, works the upper body and arms too, what's not to like? I'll let you know how...if it works ;0)
    XC Racing and Training forum is a good spot to check out if you'd like.

    It's a great fitness tool.

    This time of year, for us Western hemisphere folks, gets depressing as the available daylight hours dwindle rather quickly.
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    The rower has eight tension settings. After a brief pull on the top setting I thought 'this is too easy' but it turned out that I was toiling pretty quickly. So far ten minutes/250 pulls is work enough so I'll hopefully build up slowly over the coming weeks.

    Do rowers build up your arms much? What about core strength?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    The rower has eight tension settings. After a brief pull on the top setting I thought 'this is too easy' but it turned out that I was toiling pretty quickly. So far ten minutes/250 pulls is work enough so I'll hopefully build up slowly over the coming weeks.

    Do rowers build up your arms much? What about core strength?
    So, how is this going?

    Due to my new job, my back was getting strained, so I drug out my old NordicTrack ski machine. I'm not doing many reps due to a bit of soreness and boredom, but it seems to be helping.

    There's a good article today the SacBee newspaper about towing machines, I'll try to post the link.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/sacbee....id-metropcs-us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    So, how is this going?
    Ok thanks, I think. I'm up to thirty-minutes plus but my back isn't too happy. I've got to the stage where i can just keep going but my back is sufficiently uncomfortable I have to stop, or at least take a short break for a stretch.

    Can't say I really see or feel any difference but it must be doing some good so I'll keep going. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

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    Rumor has it you will eventually turn into Frank Underwood by using these machines. Buyer beware

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    Rumour has it you will eventually turn into Frank Underwood by using these machines.
    No idea who that is.

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    I enjoy using the rower for a change of pace. I have an app that works with the concept 2 to help keep me motivated--ErgData, it also lets me see progress over time. The games on the rower can be a bit of change of pace, too.

    If you are having trouble with your back make sure your technique is correct. I'm no expert but its easy to get out of sync. The concept 2 web site has some videos that are worth a glance.

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    Earphones + telly while rowing keeps me from getting bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribble Me View Post
    If you are having trouble with your back make sure your technique is correct.
    When I started I took my time getting the technique right. It becomes automatic, like any other repetitive exercise, but you're holding your back in more or less the same position for thirty minutes. It depends, tonight it was fine but last night I had to stop and stretch.

    I listen to the radio and after a bit you forget the rowing, you're just sitting listening to the radio.

    That Concept 2 looks like a proper rowing machine. This is the rower I have. It uses magnets instead of a fan so it's very quiet, makes virtually no noise at all. The down side is that even on the highest resistance setting, which is the one I use, it's not that hard. Towards the end on the session I speed up to give my arms more of a workout.

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    Waterrower oxbridge rowing machine

    I fully grasp Frank Underwood.

    In fact, he has the coolest rowing machine.

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    Must admit, if I had the cash I'd buy one.

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    In my experience rowing machines are hard on your back. It makes sense because they work your legs hard but much of the power is transmitted by your arms while your back is bent. Good technique is essential when using one. If it all possible you should let a trainer or coach who knows proper technique correct yours. Or at least google the topic and get an idea how to do it properly. Probably less of an issue if you are 25 but I think you are a fellow oldster.

    My biggest issue with rowing machines is that it's virtually impossible to read while using one. If there is a reason why I look forward to my gym workout then it is because I can peacefully read for an hour or so. No problem with a kindle (sweat is no issue and adjustable font size) while on the spin bike, stair stepper or elliptical machines.

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    I sort of prefer the old school style rowing machines with upright bars and a shock absorber type resistance mechanism. With upright bars you can hang a lot of clothes or other miscellaneous sh** from the bars. The newer style tend to force a messier look as they essentially just help in keeping garments partially up off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borabora View Post
    In my experience rowing machines are hard on your back. It makes sense because they work your legs hard but much of the power is transmitted by your arms while your back is bent.
    I try to keep my back straight. If I bend it forward then yes, it hurts more, but concentrating on keeping your back straight really helps. I reckon it probably works your core more too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    I try to keep my back straight. If I bend it forward then yes, it hurts more, but concentrating on keeping your back straight really helps. I reckon it probably works your core more too?
    I actually have a recumbent bike trainer/rowing machine that looks nearly identical to the photo you posted, Pig. It just differs in that it has pedals and the crank axle is located where that blue circle is on the housing. It has a seat back and the seat locks into stationary points on the tracks for pedalling. When I bought it, I sought out some videos on proper rowing techniques. I found this one very straight forward and well illustrated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I actually have a recumbent bike trainer/rowing machine that looks nearly identical to the photo you posted, Pig.
    Yeah, that company, Marcy, seem to make a lot of different fitness kit. The newer version of my rower has a holder for a tablet instead of the LCD display.

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    so, do you think you could pull a water skier yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    No idea who that is.
    If you set up your netflix in front of the rower and watch a 'house of cards' episode every session, you'll know.

    This could be dangerous though, because you may end up marathon rowing through the entirety of the series in one sitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I actually have a recumbent bike trainer/rowing machine that looks nearly identical to the photo you posted, Pig. It just differs in that it has pedals and the crank axle is located where that blue circle is on the housing. It has a seat back and the seat locks into stationary points on the tracks for pedalling. When I bought it, I sought out some videos on proper rowing techniques. I found this one https://www.10machines.com/best-rowing-machine/ the rowing machine very straight forward and well illustrated.

    The video is quite detailed and helped to clear many of my ambiguities. I have made my mind to get Concept 2 Model D. I hope that will help achieve my goals regarding weight loss and overall fitness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessehallman View Post
    I hope that will help achieve my goals regarding weight loss and overall fitness.
    Unfortunately it won't. It'll sit there and do nothing. Weight loss is 100% down to you ;0)

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    Seems like this is essentially a rowing machine, but more applicable to mountain biking:

    https://riprow.com/

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    i just use this 2-3 times a week, and keep my weight were i want it. not hard, and its cheap




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    It's more fun to hit the gym and do rows, pull-ups, deadlifts, sumo deadlifts, roman deadlifts, hyperextensions, squats, then throw up.
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    I love a rowing machine, it really does help my core when I keep at it. I don't have my own, the only place I have space would be in the garage, and it's simply too hot out there for 364 days of the year. I use the one in the gym, and work it into my routine. Never been a heavy weight lifter myself, just elliptical and some ab/shoulder/upper body machines. The rower is by far the best workout tho, and I just listen to my ipod when I am working out. Gets me in the zone fast
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    Hey, I forgot about this thread! A bit over a month ago I bought a Concept 2 model D PM5 to get a huge step above the magnetic resistance machine I had. Where ya at with this nowadays Pig? It's pretty safe to say there is no better out there for the money, durability, customer support, and the simple fact that EVERY crew team, Olympic rower, Collegiate rower, most gyms have them. It's the Gold Standard.

    I find it far from boring on a rower. One must be completely engaged in the process at all times or fail to loss of form which is bad. If you're on a rower and your hurting, you're doing something wrong and it's safe to say that most, if not all, users start out doing it wrong. Do yourself a huge favor and watch Dark Horse Rowing videos on YouTube. Shane has a never-ending series of videos that cover proper technique that takes some doing. It's a phenomenal full body workout and the best cardio for the least amount of time.

    I use the Force Curve Graph on the PM5 monitor which gives you a curve graph that will paint a curve of how well you are correctly using your legs (60%), body (30%), and arms (10%) with a nice smooth arc. It's a great tool for learning. If your back is hurting, your likely not engaging your core to keep your back straight and your opening and pulling through your hips. When I'm fatigued, I feel that happening so I correct. You'll see it on the Force Curve, too.

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    I got this notice from Concept and I thought some of you guys might be interested in the challenge. Essentially the challenge is to get 100,000 or 200,000 meters in between Nov 22 and Dec 24.

    https://log.concept2.com/challenges/...ay%20Challenge

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    Can we get an update on how the row machine has translated over to mountain biking? Asking for a friend..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribble Me View Post
    I got this notice from Concept and I thought some of you guys might be interested in the challenge. Essentially the challenge is to get 100,000 or 200,000 meters in between Nov 22 and Dec 24.
    I did the October Challenge but don't think I'll swing the Holiday Challenge. I gotta save something for continued bike rides during the same period!

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    Can we get an update on how the row machine has translated over to mountain biking? Asking for a friend..
    I would have to say that rowing is about twice as high intensity as mtb'ing and more consistent since you're engaged continually and not on/off as some trail riding my force. I have noticed that when Concept does their challenges that mix all 3 of their user groups, Ergometer (row), SkiErg (XC Ski), and BikeErg (stationary bike), the bike gets half the credit for output so if your doing a 10k row, you have to do 20k as an equivalent on the bike. Of course the bike is geared more towards road riding where an MTB would involve more dynamic input and probably more upper body than a road bike, it's nowhere close to what goes in to a rower and your cardio is taxed quite significantly, too. It's definitely a lot more workout in a shorter period of time and your utilizing and building almost all muscle groups. In this short period of a month or so, even with a 2 week hiatus recently due to a gut problem, I'm feeling my core changing drastically as well as my upper body. Admittedly, my upper body strength and some of my lower body had gone to shit because I have been exclusively concentrating on cycling for my fitness.

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