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    The best random technical advice you have heard.

    "On uphill switch backs lift your outside elbow." It is a such a simple thing to do but lifting that elbow up seems to make your body do all the right things to go around that corner.
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    "Look where you want to go."

    and

    "Maintain momentum."


    Tough for me to decide on just one but it's one of those that would be it for me. I know they seem like beginner's basic advice but they still ring true the more I advance and learn.

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    Let some air out of your tires...

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    To determine the fastest line, don't only think of straightening lines out in terms of lateral turning movement, but also consider trimming vertical distance traveled. Dips and rollers add significant distance...

    People don't seem to apply this thinking beyond scrubs (lowering jump launch angle). I imagine pre-jumping would probably be a more widespread skill that's more frequently used if more expanded on this advice.

    This is just a primer to the "energy management" frame of mind that pilots use in dog fighting, which gives a deep appreciation of how advanced you can get into mtb race theory.
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    Said in best Czech accent:
    “Back part of the front wheel...”
    Followed by:
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    Our favorite chant quoting Lebor Karas telling us how to do cycleball kick. Led to much fun sessions! I use technique to kick branches and debris Off trail when riding sometimes.

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    Pedal OVER the top, not just up to it.

    Paraphrasing Old Neverend.

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    Look out of the turn and down the trail... you’re heading down the trail.
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    I find momentum to be the single biggest thing people miss out on. Carry more speed into a feature, especially if it's uphill. Explode and attack.
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    Don't watch your front wheel. look where you want to go.

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    Don't be afraid to put weight on the front wheel.

    Going fast requires good braking technique.

    Skidding is NOT drifting.

    Locking out the suspension on technical climbs makes them harder to clean.

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    (While climbing in the saddle) With each pedal stroke, pull back and down on the handlebar like you're rowing a boat.
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    "Technically, the bike's not the problem."
    (That's what you meant by technical, right?)

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    Stop spending money on parts and upgrades to make you a better rider, spend it on coaching and training because it will exponentially make you a better rider than upgraded bike components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideknob View Post
    The slow blade penetrates the shield.
    don't forget—He who controls the spice controls the universe.

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    Keep your mouth closed while riding through horse poop.

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    'tuck and roll'... it's a skill too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    don't forget—He who controls the spice controls the universe.
    Nice!
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    Carry a 2" bit of and old tyre to use as a boot to fill a large tyre gash.

    Has saved me a couple of times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideknob View Post
    Carry a 2" bit of and old tyre to use as a boot to fill a large tyre gash.

    Has saved me a couple of times.
    Why not carry Shoe Goo or the equivalent weatherproof flexible adhesive (e.g. E6000)?

    Seems to harden enough within 10-30 minutes from my experience, despite it saying it has a 24 hour cure time. It's my emergency fix that went from last resort to something that can replace many other fixes, if I'm not pressed for time. Way better than the alternative of heading back on foot and contemplating the sacrifice of the tire and rim by riding it flat.

    Originally got it to fix the soles of my 5.10s, but I ghetto fixed other things too, like holes my socks, gaiter, and bag. Tempted to use it on things like holes in my gloves, and even a hydration pack bladder that burst at the seam from me landing on it while full. Was thinking about using it for GoPro mounts too, pondering how harsh acetone would be to what I put the adhesive on if I need to remove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Why not carry Shoe Goo or the equivalent weatherproof flexible adhesive (e.g. E6000)?

    Seems to harden enough within 10-30 minutes from my experience, despite it saying it has a 24 hour cure time. It's my emergency fix that went from last resort to something that can replace many other fixes, if I'm not pressed for time. Way better than the alternative of heading back on foot and contemplating the sacrifice of the tire and rim by riding it flat.

    Originally got it to fix the soles of my 5.10s, but I ghetto fixed other things too, like holes my socks, gaiter, and bag. Tempted to use it on things like holes in my gloves, and even a hydration pack bladder that burst at the seam from me landing on it while full.
    Old bit of tyre and throw in a tube requires no waiting.

    My bit of old tyre is years old - and free!

    In fact, I really should update it as it's from the days when 2.1's were considered large.
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    When in doubt, throttle out! Works great for MTB too with just letting go of the brakes.

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    Hambini pointed out in one of his recent videos that if you use a hammer to remove bearings with the tool on the inner race, it will Brinell the bearing surface. I see shop mechanics, even good ones, do this all the time. I used to do it; just never thought of it as a problem. https://www.rexnord.com/blog/article...-is-brinelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Bubba View Post
    Let some air out of your tires...
    Let more air out of your tires.
    Almost = Didn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    don't forget—He who controls the spice controls the universe.
    I will not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

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    This thread turned into advice people are giving and not advice others gave them.

    No?

    Yes?

    I say yes.
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    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    This thread turned into advice people are giving and not advice others gave them.

    No?

    Yes?

    I say yes.
    Yep.
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    Some of my tech "advice" would be:

    It's amateurish to treat technique like Street Fighter moves, where you focus on a combination of specific movements for specific body parts in a sequence of steps.

    It's more advanced to try to recruit the entire body in the technique, spreading the force requirements across many body parts, which makes techniques look natural, smooth, and effortless, rather than exaggerated (and inefficient).

    It becomes mastered after practice, in which you essentially use the least amount of effort and movement to pull off your action's intention successfully.

    I suppose it's a process of being ignorant (riding "just for fun"), then copying others who are more advanced, until you figure out how to develop your own adaptation. I also suppose just having an end goal of using the entire body, or questioning yourself how you can use more of the body is the advice, to go beyond an amateur's frame of mind.
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    Or, just going out and having fun by learning by your own mistakes and getting better along the way by changing your own technique.
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    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    When turning, mind where your rear wheel is going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    This thread turned into advice people are giving and not advice others gave them.

    No?

    Yes?

    I say yes.
    Someone once told me, if you expect an mtbr thread to stay on topic for more than 5 posts, then you are insane. I think it was Picard who said that.

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    Don't crash into trees or large rocks. they generally do not move.
    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Don't crash into trees or large rocks. they generally do not move.
    Someone gave you that advice?
    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Rando rider: "there's a line you can take (on a dh run) which doesn't require brakes".
    me: oh?

    This story ends with rando about 3 mins later wrapped up in shrubbery and his bike about 20' further off the trail.

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    Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy f View Post
    Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
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    Grab the ends of the grip and use less front brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Someone gave you that advice?
    yes actually. I took a MTB class with my wife and the instructor said that.
    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    This thread turned into advice people are giving and not advice others gave them.

    No?

    Yes?

    I say yes.
    Yes!

    Problem is, I'm too old for this thread if looking for best received advice. Hardly anyone else was riding dirt when we started taking our ten speeds off road, and anyone that was, was as new to to it as we were and had no advice (yet). Any advice that reared its head since has been regurgitated time and time again. Sooo... my best advice that I've proven to myself over and over again for the last 45+ years... what works best for one rider doesn't necessarily mean it works best for another. All good input, but pick and choose whatever works best for you.

    Damn I'm old...
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    Slower is often not safer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plummet View Post
    Slower is often not safer!
    That depends on the rider's skill level. Overall, I agree with it. Momentum is your friend, until it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Momentum is your friend, until it isn't.
    true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideknob View Post
    Carry a 2" bit of and old tyre to use as a boot to fill a large tyre gash.

    Has saved me a couple of times.
    Or a small bank note

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    Quote Originally Posted by plummet View Post
    Slower is often not safer!
    This is true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeginnerToWhistler View Post
    "You should buy a good bike, if that's what you really want."

    --my wife
    Oh my god, it's a trap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Grab the ends of the grip and use less front brake.
    First world issues. This should be the first thing you learn. Although even after many years doing the sport it’s not always second nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by MOJO K View Post
    Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
    Political, wait, what?

    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    “Don't crash into trees or large rocks. they generally do not move”

    yes actually. I took a MTB class with my wife and the instructor said that.
    You need a new instructor not looking for a job in comedy.


    Quote Originally Posted by fredcook View Post
    Yes!

    Problem is, I'm too old for this thread if looking for best received advice. Hardly anyone else was riding dirt when we started taking our ten speeds off road, and anyone that was, was as new to to it as we were and had no advice (yet). Any advice that reared its head since has been regurgitated time and time again. Sooo... my best advice that I've proven to myself over and over again for the last 45+ years... what works best for one rider doesn't necessarily mean it works best for another. All good input, but pick and choose whatever works best for you.

    Damn I'm old...
    I get it, I’m on the verge.

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    "You should buy a good bike, if that's what you really want."

    --my wife
    I did, finally nobody to tell me different.

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    Slower is often not safer!
    Very true, as I sit here with broken ribs telling me the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    That depends on the rider's skill level. Overall, I agree with it. Momentum is your friend, until it isn't.
    True: refer to the above.

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    From Chemistry lab: "Do what you oughtta, put acid into water."
    Hmmmm... pondering. Some things are better left alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpdemello View Post
    Oh my god, it's a trap!
    Haha!!! Trust no one (especially the spouse).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Hmmmm... pondering. Some things are better left alone.
    It's ironic, really. In Chemistry class the instructor asked us what's one thing we've learned during the semester. Almost everyone, including me, gave some pseudo-profound answer to demonstarte that the class taught us something about life and the universe or some BS. One dude said, "Do what ya oughtta, put acid into water" because putting water into acid can cause an explosion. I recall thinking, "Well that's kinda dopey. That's a C+ student at best."

    It turns out that's the one and only piece of advice I actually recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    First world issues. This should be the first thing you learn. Although even after many years doing the sport it’s not always second nature.



    Political, wait, what?



    You need a new instructor not looking for a job in comedy.




    I get it, I’m on the verge.



    I did, finally nobody to tell me different.



    Very true, as I sit here with broken ribs telling me the same thing.



    True: refer to the above.



    Hmmmm... pondering. Some things are better left alone.



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    This is advice I give when I see someone struggling with what direction to turn to loosen or tighten a bolt/nut and they're muttering Righty Tighty and Lefty Loosey:

    "Stick out your right arm and make a thumbs up sign. (Usually get a weird look) Have you ever heard of right-handed threads? If you turn the object in the direction that your fingers curl, the nut/bolt will move in the direction of your thumb. Hold your right hand upside down, around your back, it still holds true."

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    On techy descents, arms bent and elbows pointed to the side?

    While cornering, weight your front wheel and always search for natural berms?

    Maybe none of this is even sound advice. Not sure. I will defer to LMN. It's served me well over the years though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roge View Post
    This is advice I give when I see someone struggling with what direction to turn to loosen or tighten a bolt/nut and they're muttering Righty Tighty and Lefty Loosey:

    "Stick out your right arm and make a thumbs up sign. (Usually get a weird look) Have you ever heard of right-handed threads? If you turn the object in the direction that your fingers curl, the nut/bolt will move in the direction of your thumb. Hold your right hand upside down, around your back, it still holds true."
    Sounds like what someone would be told just before their head is caved in with an axe in a horror movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roge View Post
    This is advice I give when I see someone struggling with what direction to turn to loosen or tighten a bolt/nut and they're muttering Righty Tighty and Lefty Loosey:

    "Stick out your right arm and make a thumbs up sign. (Usually get a weird look) Have you ever heard of right-handed threads? If you turn the object in the direction that your fingers curl, the nut/bolt will move in the direction of your thumb. Hold your right hand upside down, around your back, it still holds true."
    Hopefully you also remind them that some parts on a bicycle are reverse threaded!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roge View Post
    Hold your right hand upside down, around your back"
    Ouch! Why you make me do that???

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    This happened in PA.

    "Stop looking for the "easy" line and just commit" [to pedaling]. "There IS no easy line."

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    ...has helped me immensely on slow rock crawly-type trails. I spend much more time riding and holding momentum than when I was trying to tip-toe around all the tricky-looking stuff. Yes, I got a lot more pedal/crank strikes, but they kept me moving forward.

    It makes riding up a rock-strewn creek bed actually fun.
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    Best advice:
    Look where you want to got, and not where you don't want to go.

    Worst advice:
    Stay back behind the saddle. I was going over the bars all the time, learned this which helped me stop going OTB, but spent years being horrible at cornering until I realized that you usually want to weight the front wheel at least for flat corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleas View Post
    This happened in PA.

    "Stop looking for the "easy" line and just commit" [to pedaling]. "There IS no easy line."

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    ...has helped me immensely on slow rock crawly-type trails. I spend much more time riding and holding momentum than when I was trying to tip-toe around all the tricky-looking stuff. Yes, I got a lot more pedal/crank strikes, but they kept me moving forward.

    It makes riding up a rock-strewn creek bed actually fun.
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    -F
    On top of that, for those types of rock gardens, I have learned that just unweighting the front wheel can make a big difference between getting hung up on a rock or rolling over it. People get hung up sometimes on picking up their front wheel (which certainly has a time and place), but getting your weight off the wheel can often make the difference between rolling over something and the front wheel stuck.

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    "Hit it like you mean it."

    These are the words of my friend Mike McGuire circa 1992 while he was helping me learn to jump my off-road motorcycle. I've found Mike's advice applies to many mountain biking situations as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    HTFU

    I find momentum to be the single biggest thing people miss out on. Carry more speed into a feature, especially if it's uphill. Explode and attack.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to *OneSpeed* again.

    OneSpeed, my comment below ties in nicely with your comment here. Common theme being: ride aggressively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post



    Political, wait, what?
    "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
    Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

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