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    woolftooth elliptical reverse dish for 170 crank/190 back end

    Elliptical Reverse-Dish Direct Mount for Race Face Cinch ? wolftoothcomponents.com

    after asking on the drivechain forum, wolftooth replied there would be something coming soon. lo and behold, a new option for those of us running cinch cranks with a 170 crank axle, but a 190/7 rear end. i thought i'd mention it here for anyone who could use it...

    cheers, wolftooth!
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    Awesome. Now if they would make 26T and 24T.

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    You could just flip the regular dish one, but then you couldn't read them there fancy book words.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    I don't know how much of a difference it makes but the wolftooth design is not symmetrical... So they have recommended against flipping their normal rings- but it's a fair point!
    I use a flipped race face ring and it's fine, but I do wonder about the spokes of the chainring being orientated the wrong way- I've seen disc rotors mounted back to front fail catastrophically- though the torque produced must be quite different...
    As for wolftooth drop stops in general, I have various of their chain rings on other bikes and feel they are just a notch more secure and quiet than most...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    I don't know how much of a difference it makes but the wolftooth design is not symmetrical... So they have recommended against flipping their normal rings- but it's a fair point!
    I use a flipped race face ring and it's fine, but I do wonder about the spokes of the chainring being orientated the wrong way- I've seen disc rotors mounted back to front fail catastrophically- though the torque produced must be quite different...
    As for wolftooth drop stops in general, I have various of their chain rings on other bikes and feel they are just a notch more secure and quiet than most...
    DrJon - i wasn't aware of of Wolftooth stating not to flip the ring, that's interesting because RF explicitly calls out the flip in their documentation for that specific combination (which I have and love). As soon as they come out with a 28T (ETA Feb) - I'm buying one to try it out.

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    woolftooth elliptical reverse dish for 170 crank/190 back end

    Subbed, I'm using a 28T RF NW "flipped" for a 190rear. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a wolftooth once they are available.


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    Flipping an elliptical can cause problems if they don't line line up correctly, would be out of sync.

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    I emailed them a while ago and they said flipping was fine
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I emailed them a while ago and they said flipping was fine
    Then I'm confused why they made these, maybe for looks??

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    the ring timing is going to be off if you flip the non-dished rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    the ring timing is going to be off if you flip the non-dished rings.
    Yeah. The whole oval thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I emailed them a while ago and they said flipping was fine
    thats very good to know! thanks!

    i got that tidbit from here...
    Wolf Tooth Components Cinches Down on Race Face Compatible Direct Mount Chainrings - Bikerumor

    "Also, due to WTC’s patent pending asymmetric tooth profile which results in excellent chain retention even in heavy mud, the rings are not reversible. This is important to note for anyone thinking they could be used on 190mm fat bikes with the ring flipped. Currently, the RFC rings will be a great fit for 170mm fat bikes, but not ideal for 190mm since the chainline should be another 6-8mm outboard to function properly. WTC is hoping to hear from potential customers regarding 190mm fat bikes – like most of their products, if demand is there they’ll make it happen."

    it would be cool to have these as options!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    You could just flip the regular dish one, but then you couldn't read them there fancy book words.
    the clocking of the oval/ellipse will be incorrect when doing that

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    i just installed one hope to get it out to ride the next couple days!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    i just installed one hope to get it out to ride the next couple days!!
    I assume this is the 30T? Let us know how you like it compared to the regular 30T

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexkraemer View Post
    I assume this is the 30T? Let us know how you like it compared to the regular 30T
    that is correct, hope to have some rides this weekend..

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    Here's the emails I sent back and forth. Turns out the knee pain was from squatting heavy without cartilage in my knee. Also, the cranks were 170 spaced already, so I didn't need the new spindle.

    Hi guys

    I just got a new 190mm spaced fat bike with a RF turbine cinch crankset. In addition the the chainring being a stupid red color, the Q factor is annihilating my knees. I'm used to the 170mm spaced RF crank on my Moonlander, so I'm switching to a 170mm spindle on this bike too.

    Anyway, if the chainline is off, can I flip your elliptical ring to move it out a bit?

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    Hey Bill,

    I know how you feel with the Q-factor... I am bothered by a Road Q-factor (approx 145) and even more-so the wide q-factor fat bikes. It is frustrating!

    Yes, you can flip the Race Face Elliptical ring! Visually, you wont get the laser engraving, but we both know its well worth keeping the knees happy.

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    Unless you install it wrong, it won't change the elliptical position.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Ah- I thought you'd emailed wolftooth about flipping their rings... Race face provide chain line info for the flipped version, so I'd assumed previously they officially ok'd it and your email conversation confirms this, but it looks like wolftooth probably don't? Cheers!
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    That's an email to wolftooth.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    That's an email to wolftooth.
    argh! i see - so they were referring to the flipped *wolftooth for raceface* crank ring! gottit! (im slow in the mornings) thats great to know thanks!
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    My correspondence with wolf has indicated the exact opposite.

    That their rings are not flippable due to their asymmetric tooth shape.

    I only have a short ride in on my new reverse dish ring but I dig it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    My correspondence with wolf has indicated the exact opposite.

    That their rings are not flippable due to their asymmetric tooth shape.

    I only have a short ride in on my new reverse dish ring but I dig it so far.
    People might call them a gimmick but I really feel like they have helped my technical climbing.

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