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    What's the best hubs for fat bike?

    confusing.. need help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackfair View Post
    confusing.. need help.
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    If you want a useable, detailed and introspective answer, ask a detailed and thought out question.

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    black ones, I'd definitely go with black ones
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    The most important thing is that they fit the frame, that and having Rims and Spokes laced to them is good too. Money no object? I like Chris King Hubs. Money an object (like for real people)? But the best you can afford (general premise of life for me except with cell phones).

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    #1-Onyx

    #2-Everything else

    Hope that helps!!

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    OP, what are you looking to spend and how do you intend to use said hubs?

    There's DT Swiss, Hope, Bike Hub Store, Onyx... All in varying degrees of durability and expense.
    I like turtles

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    I9 or Onyx. Done. End of thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forster View Post
    Money no object? I like Chris King Hubs.
    Does Chris King make fatbike hubs? Was looking at his web page and only found up to 157 rear through axle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I9 or Onyx. Done. End of thread.
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    this may touch a few nerves but that is not my intent. if you want to just have good reliable hubs that are not flashy, go with DT Swiss. if you want to talk about your hubs or have everyone know what kind of hubs you have, then pick one of the following based on budget. Onyx, I9 or Hope.

    I am currently running the 3 year old pair of hubs that came with my China carbon bike. they are Chosen and run $120 for the pair. i have 3 sets on different wheels of varying ages. i weigh 245lbs and ride year around with no issues. everyone's mileage will vary but i see no reason so spend big $$$ on fancy named hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackfair View Post
    confusing.. need help.
    How heavy is a rock?

    My wife likes taking naps, I like riding Onyx hubs

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    Good job!

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    Cheers mate, thanks for the help!



    On another point, if OP is looking for reliable and easy to service, than DT should be at the top of the list.

    everything else (except Onyx) uses outdated technology.

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    Ok Thanks guys, seems I9 or Onyx are the best! @alias Onyx using a new tech? what is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackfair View Post
    Ok Thanks guys, seems I9 or Onyx are the best! @alias Onyx using a new tech? what is it?
    You wanted to take it to a vote? I won't argue that a $600 hub MUST have something going on, even if it's just unfazed nerve from the manufacturer, but I would really like for someone with experience on both (on modern fatties, that is) tell us how an I9 is better than, say, a Hope Fatsno Pro (less than half the price of the former).

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    I had a Hope Fatsno...the bearings lasted about 100 miles
    Went to a i9, great hub, but stupid loud
    Then got a Onyx, super smooth, instant engagement, it has taken a beating and is still awesome.
    Picked up a DT Swiss for another wheelset. much cheaper, not great engagement, smooth and lighter

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    I have a few wheelsets. Some with Hopes, some with Bikehubstore. I loosely keep track of the usage and try to keep the bearings in good working order.
    I ruined a Chosen hub from 907 in less than a year.
    I've built wheels or people with I9 hubs. They're light, have fast engagement and sound cool if you dig that sort of thing. Do I really think they're worth so much more than Hopes? Not really.
    I've also ridden a bike with Onyx hubs. While they're supposed to be the end all bomb proof hub, I have to say the silence was freaky and the engagement feels a little strange. I'm sure you get used to it fast when you lay out that kinda cash.
    I've never handled a DT Swiss fat hub. They look nice but no one's asked for them yet.
    The reason I have mostly Hope and BHS... I have a wife and kids. If I need a couple of sets of wheels, I can swing 200 dollar hubs a lot easier than 600 dollar hubs. Also, I can keep a spare driver and set of bearings in my kit in the truck so when we're away from home I can make an emergency repair. Got one Hope driver and one BHS driver.
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    No King fat hubs exist.

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    Hadley Racing hubs are a solid choice.
    Made in the USA. 72 POE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGHORN LEW View Post
    Hadley Racing hubs are a solid choice.
    Made in the USA. 72 POE.
    Do they make em for 197mm bikes? I know they make 170.
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    I would have went DT swiss, if they had options other than black, black, or black.
    I like my Hope, they are reasonably light, not too $$, and scare away bears & hikers.

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    Absolutely they do the 197mm. They get sold out a lot though because of the quality.

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    Put a 177 dt on my farley 6, now putting a 197 on my 9.6... i was going to go hope but couldnt go with personally unknown. Dt's ratchet has yet to let me down.
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    I just bought a DT Swiss wheelset, for the price of a Onyx hub , l like how quiet they are and the roll beautifully, relatively light too.
    Engagement "issue" someone mentiined above is solved via two kits, 36 tooth and 54 tooth "upgrades", l like the 18 tooth egagement enough to not worry.
    I must say too, they look f...ing tops.
    I originally wanted to relace my Chinga rims, but had so many hassles trying to get just DT Swiss hubs, then with spokes and lacing, it didnt make a whole lot of sense, so l just got the wheelset .
    Supposedly the hubs are toolless seviceable too.

    Quote Originally Posted by cmg71 View Post
    black ones, I'd definitely go with black ones
    but l still agree with this bloke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    I would have went DT swiss, if they had options other than black, black, or black.
    I like my Hope, they are reasonably light, not too $$, and scare away bears & hikers.
    So wait, you choose an inferior hub because you don't like black? Wow, I'm impressed... that you admitted it

    It would be something if DT gave color options, but then I like black.

    Couldn't you get the hubs anodized or powder coated?

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    Are the one from Salsa any good?
    I'm building a 27.5+/29+ setup on a blackborow, but I need 150/197 mm centrelock hub. I'm not willing to pay for onyx or i9 stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racam View Post
    Are the one from Salsa any good?
    I'm building a 27.5+/29+ setup on a blackborow, but I need 150/197 mm centrelock hub. I'm not willing to pay for onyx or i9 stuff.
    Not really.
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    Dt Swiss makes nice hubs and they have center lock. Bike24 has some of the best deals on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racam View Post
    Are the one from Salsa any good?
    I'm building a 27.5+/29+ setup on a blackborow, but I need 150/197 mm centrelock hub. I'm not willing to pay for onyx or i9 stuff.
    From what I have seen, my stock 2015 Salsa Mukluk hubs are the same as Planet X hubs. They have not failed me, but I prefer my Hadley hubs...by a lot.

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    Really liking the Tune Fatkong hub. This is a 12 x 170mm.
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    Wow, I didn’t think anyone would spend that much on a set of hubs. And people said Onyx was expensive!

    Very few reviews, three pawl system is not innovative, not sure they’re the best, though are certainly the lightest.

    I love Onyx, also really like DT, but dollar for dollar and gram for gram, DT is hard to beat.

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    Really liking the Tune Fatkong hub. This is a 12 x 170mm.

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    Ya gotta have that half revolution of freeplay to engagement to make a hub worthy!
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    I am way more concerned about the CF brake rotor, myself. I wouldn't trust that ever.

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    If you don't want to spend the $$$ for Onyx, get a set of DT Swiss. End of story.

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    Dtswiss pretty much seems to be the concensus.
    Thanks
    Out of curiosity. Anybody did a 27.5+ build with 150/197mm hubs and 3 inch tires. I'm wondering if it's too much tension on the spokes with that angle. It's for bikepacking, so long distances with a load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damon777 View Post
    I am way more concerned about the CF brake rotor, myself. I wouldn't trust that ever.
    Ferrari uses CF rotors ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damon777 View Post
    I am way more concerned about the CF brake rotor, myself. I wouldn't trust that ever.
    You must be referring to the Alpha carbon rotors that pretty much turn to dust after the first long downhill, that would be sketchy. This is one of the last Gen Kettle rotors that didn't warp into a potato chip. I have a couple that are straight, this one has 4 years on it although mostly just winter riding and the braking surface is like new. I run this with Kettle's Metal pads. In my 25 years of winter riding these are by far the best rotors I have run in the winter. On snow you can lock these up with one finger but hanging off the back on a steep snow/ice covered downhill is where they are really amazing, incredible modulation.
    That said I don't run these on my summer bikes - just not enough initial stopping power, so steel rotors it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racam View Post
    Dtswiss pretty much seems to be the concensus.
    Thanks
    Out of curiosity. Anybody did a 27.5+ build with 150/197mm hubs and 3 inch tires. I'm wondering if it's too much tension on the spokes with that angle. It's for bikepacking, so long distances with a load.
    I've built a few sets. They're fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Ya gotta have that half revolution of freeplay to engagement to make a hub worthy!
    LOL, you might want to check your math. But what does make a hub worthy is being able to build a light wheelset with reliabilty ( at least for me ). The single track trail systems around here get snow packed quickly from a ton of Fatbike traffic. I am older and ride with a few guys less than half my age and some racing Pro XC (my son being one ) so the pace is brisk. My wheelset is 1644 grams on 65mm rims combined with a light Fatbike helps me to hang with some of these yard apes - especially in the last half of the ride. Nothing wrong with engagement on Tune hubs but there is obviously alot better out there. Weight and reliabilty ( Tune Fatkong is based off their DH hub ) are 10 times more important to me than engagement, although everyone has different needs.
    At the OP, not sure what you were referring to as best FB hub, but if you are looking at building light weight FB wheelset the Tune hubs are one option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xc71 View Post
    LOL, you might want to check your math. But what does make a hub worthy is being able to build a light wheelset with reliabilty ( at least for me ). The single track trail systems around here get snow packed quickly from a ton of Fatbike traffic. I am older and ride with a few guys less than half my age and some racing Pro XC (my son being one ) so the pace is brisk. My wheelset is 1644 grams on 65mm rims combined with a light Fatbike helps me to hang with some of these yard apes - especially in the last half of the ride. Nothing wrong with engagement on Tune hubs but there is obviously alot better out there. Weight and reliabilty ( Tune Fatkong is based off their DH hub ) are 10 times more important to me than engagement, although everyone has different needs.
    At the OP, not sure what you were referring to as best FB hub, but if you are looking at building light weight FB wheelset the Tune hubs are one option.
    What I don't desire is a component that will disintegrate after catching air a few times and will still be haunting the mountains 10+ years from date of purchase! With that said, some weight is fine with me. Not a worry, 3 years post heart surgery. The other nice thing of zero slop engagement is ho luxurious it is when I get trialsy, of which happens on each and every ride.
    Now, if King would just break down and fab some fatbike hubs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    What I don't desire is a component that will disintegrate after catching air a few times and will still be haunting the mountains 10+ years from date of purchase! With that said, some weight is fine with me. Not a worry, 3 years post heart surgery. The other nice thing of zero slop engagement is ho luxurious it is when I get trialsy, of which happens on each and every ride.
    Now, if King would just break down and fab some fatbike hubs!
    My brother-in-law had triple bi in the spring, that is a gnarly recovery/re-hab. Great you are still riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHun View Post
    Ferrari uses CF rotors ...
    No, they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xc71 View Post
    My brother-in-law had triple bi in the spring, that is a gnarly recovery/re-hab. Great you are still riding.
    Thankya!

    My cardiologist prescribed the fatbike. Ride 4x week, 1.5 hrs each time. I need to find the script form to send it to Gomez.
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    DT star ratchet. Pawl-less on all 5 bikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    No, they don't.

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    That pic sure does look like CF rotors... Unless you mean Ferrari outsources them and doesn't make the rotors themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToastR View Post
    That pic sure does look like CF rotors... Unless you mean Ferrari outsources them and doesn't make the rotors themselves
    Carbon ceramic for the road cars. Big difference between these and the carbon rotors used in motorsport. All of the F1 teams have been using full carbon rotors for decades. They were introduced by Brabham in 1979. For a road car, it is not practical to use full carbon rotors because of the heat needed to get them to work properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackfair View Post
    What's the best hubs for fat bike?
    I really like my Rohloff , the best for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by xc71 View Post
    You must be referring to the Alpha carbon rotors that pretty much turn to dust after the first long downhill, that would be sketchy. This is one of the last Gen Kettle rotors that didn't warp into a potato chip. I have a couple that are straight, this one has 4 years on it although mostly just winter riding and the braking surface is like new. I run this with Kettle's Metal pads. In my 25 years of winter riding these are by far the best rotors I have run in the winter. On snow you can lock these up with one finger but hanging off the back on a steep snow/ice covered downhill is where they are really amazing, incredible modulation.
    That said I don't run these on my summer bikes - just not enough initial stopping power, so steel rotors it is.
    I stand corrected. They look like epoxy/CF composite for the weight weenie crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damon777 View Post
    I stand corrected. They look like epoxy/CF composite for the weight weenie crowd.
    They are lighter but the real reason is the heat dispersion. CF Rotors will still work when metal rotors would melt.....they are a bit pricey, if you have a z06/ grandsport corvette with carbon rotors, expect to pay $10,000 for a set of rotors and pads....double that price with the super cars.

    Love my hope hubs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToastR View Post
    That pic sure does look like CF rotors... Unless you mean Ferrari outsources them and doesn't make the rotors themselves
    No, they are not carbon fiber with resin like your bike and rims. By your reasoning, diamonds would also be "carbon fiber".

    Carbon fiber mountain bike rotors are a faux-product intended to make you think about the "carbon" rotors you've heard about in F1 racing and that have trickled down to high performance road cars, but they are nothing like these. Just do the research on how they make "carbon" rotors for high performance cars, also known as carbon-ceramic (there is another kind called carbon-carbon).

    These carbon fiber mtb rotors are a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    What I don't desire is a component that will disintegrate...Now, if King would just break down and fab some fatbike hubs!
    Hadley would fit that bill - no?

    I plan to splurg on one when my stock Formula has a season on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    Carbon ceramic for the road cars. Big difference between these and the carbon rotors used in motorsport. All of the F1 teams have been using full carbon rotors for decades. They were introduced by Brabham in 1979. For a road car, it is not practical to use full carbon rotors because of the heat needed to get them to work properly.
    Queue a Sky F1 segment featuring Martin Brundle dialogue explaining the differences.

    Meanwhile, I’ve got a set of Hope Pro IV fatbike hubs (150mm front, 197mm rear) laced up to my Nextie 65mm rims because PURPLE, and the hub set was under $400.00.
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    Does anyone know of anywhere I could source a new 135mm q/r RearDiscSpaced front hub for delivery to UK without costing at least one kidney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    So wait, you choose an inferior hub because you don't like black? Wow, I'm impressed... that you admitted it

    It would be something if DT gave color options, but then I like black.

    Couldn't you get the hubs anodized or powder coated?
    I've never broke a hope huh or even had to replace a single bearing in 14 years of riding....
    They are priced very closely to each other.
    Color>weight hah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    I've never broke a hope huh or even had to replace a single bearing in 14 years of riding....
    They are priced very closely to each other.
    Color>weight hah.
    The guys that have trouble with em weigh 430#'s, ride like a rhinoceros on Viagra while participating in Redbull Rampage!

    Hearse black sux and color is where it's at...
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    I was going to suggest 907's front hub they were selling for like 35 bucks but it's missing from their site now.
    I like turtles

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    Funny thing, I just found a complete set of wheels for a reasonable price.

    Velocity Dually 27.5 45mm Wheelset

    I heard some good things from my LBS about the velocity Dually rim, although a bit on the heavy side, but I have no clue about the Borealis hub.

    Borealis Fat Bike Hubs Set - Borealis Fat Bikes Canada

    Anybody with experience with those hubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racam View Post

    Anybody with experience with those hubs?
    I remember the early ones were breaking left and right. They may have improved them. Being a clyde, I steer clear.
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    The DT350 hubs are probably the best bet if building a wheelset. I was thinking of doing that (tubeless rims I have no idea about, so process is ongoing) but today I saw the I9 BigRig 845 alloys and those looks fantastic. I'll probably go that route but if not, I'd build around the DTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer View Post
    The DT350 hubs are probably the best bet if building a wheelset. I was thinking of doing that (tubeless rims I have no idea about, so process is ongoing) but today I saw the I9 BigRig 845 alloys and those looks fantastic. I'll probably go that route but if not, I'd build around the DTs.
    I have Surly My Other Brother Darryls on my bike currently and the tubeless is stellar.
    Not sure if I9 sells the rims separately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGHORN LEW View Post
    No King fat hubs exist.
    wrong you can use them on a Pugsley or any other 135qr offset frame, FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-opski View Post
    wrong you can use them on a Pugsley or any other 135qr offset frame, FYI.
    Technically that's not a fat hub. It's a regular hub with a frame designed to work with it. For this discussion, a fat hub would be something wider than the 135 standard.

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    I have fat bikes with Hope's, DT Swiss 350's and a Chris King. Other than a broken QR adapter on the King, all have been very reliable. I was just turned on to a Halo fat bike hub as well, and it is really solid- high POE, great machining, plus really affordable. Worth a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctxcrossx View Post
    Technically that's not a fat hub. It's a regular hub with a frame designed to work with it. For this discussion, a fat hub would be something wider than the 135 standard.
    Ohh thanks I forget that the nouveau fat is strong on the outside. Lots of vintage fat running 135 mm symmetrical and offset still running around Alaska.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    I was just turned on to a Halo fat bike hub as well, and it is really solid- high POE, great machining, plus really affordable. Worth a look.
    I've looked at this hub since it has the 170xM10 bolt on version, but availability is nill atm with a standard shimano style freehub. I realize that 177x12 is taking over from qr, but it would be nice to have some 170x10 thru axle or bolt-on options for the existing fat 170 frames out there.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Fatback still has a few hubsets available in the 170x10 flavor, but yeah, few and far between these days.

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    I picked up Gen1 Hope Fatsno hubs a couple years ago. They ran pretty well, but I changed all the bearings at the start of each season, cracked a couple alloy freehub bodies and finally went to stainless freehub body and converted it to 12mm thru axle last year. It finally sh!t the bed this year....full fixed gear lockup, cracked the drive ring, shattered pawls, deformed freehub body. Pitched it.

    Picked up a pair of Onyx hubs and they have been great. Engagement feels solid to me. Nice and quiet too. They were more than DT but cheaper than I9. I contemplated getting a Chris King 157 hub and having my mechanic machine a spacer for the rotor but decided to try these first. I like them a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    I've looked at this hub since it has the 170xM10 bolt on version, but availability is nill atm with a standard shimano style freehub. I realize that 177x12 is taking over from qr, but it would be nice to have some 170x10 thru axle or bolt-on options for the existing fat 170 frames out there.
    Still some 170 hubs on EBay, at several price points.
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    ^ 170 with a 10mm thru axle or 170 10mm axle with 5mm QR?

    I have a Novatec with the 10mm thru axle currently. I've seen the Fatback versions, but don't need a 135 front and they are not selling the rear alone. Probably because selling the 135 front is difficult.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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