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    turner goes FAT.....

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    Nice.
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    DW rear suspension?

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    turner goes FAT.....

    Nice!!!


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    very nice, but why so late ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFX big foot View Post
    very nice, but why so late ?
    surly late from your perspective but right on Q fat full suss wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    surly late from your perspective but right on Q fat full suss wise.
    i know i know

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFX big foot View Post
    very nice, but why so late ?
    Did they not consult with you first?

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    bucksaw who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Did they not consult with you first?
    ..well... no
    im not an expert also my bike doesn't match current standards and trends
    too heavy too tall and too much travel and 0.00g of carbon

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFX big foot View Post
    ..well... no
    im not an expert also my bike doesn't match current standards and trends
    too heavy too tall and too much travel and 0.00g of carbon
    Do you want a tough, tall, way-too-much travel bike that is a bit lighter? I will totally build you one when the time is right (soon, not soon enough). That's where I want to go, but with 100% more carbon (and aramid/Kevlar!). I'm no weight weenie, just want a small diet if that makes sense, while keeping the fat and the plush nature of big tires and suspension.

    I think you and I have some similar basic tastes.

    One guy commented tonight, "You sounds like you might be more into motocross bikes."

    ...Ones that humans can pedal? You are correct, sir, I took his comment (possibly a veiled insult, wasn't sure) as a compliment.

    I'm excited to see a certain local on a full suspension Turner should he get the bug for it. AFAIK it is one of the few brands of bikes he can't break (big dude).
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    Must resist this one!!

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    the full suss fatties are coming out of the woodwork, though. This one should be a great bike, too. I don't see Turner releasing a lackluster FS fattie. All the people disappointed that they waited too long for a Bucksaw, Turner fans, and people waiting for more manufacturers to enter the fray should be jumping for joy over this one.

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    have to start selling body parts....who wants to buy a kidney?
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    I didn't see that coming. I was thinking maybe DT would release a re-worked Sultan or carbon Burner. I'm taking a mental inventory now of what bikes I can sell and won't miss in favor of a DW link fatbike. Hoping it has a 190 rear hub and can manage 4.6"+ tires!

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    Looks like a nice bike, but a video of a bunch of FS fat bikes in a parking lot is pretty cheesy imho. Not really a good way to showcase what a bike is capable of, unless it is only intended to be ridden in a parking lot, then directly into the lbs to be worked on (which is what the video is showing) On top of that the last rider looks like he may be on a bike 2 sizes to small.

    I am in a bad mood today...sorry Turner.

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    ^ take a pill

    true enough though however just a teaser is my take and much more to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    ^ take a pill

    true enough though however just a teaser is my take and much more to follow.
    I had some "me time" in the bathroom....I am better now!!

    If I had creative freedom with a fat bike teaser video, I would setup a fast muddy creek crossing followed by a 3ft log pile jump to flat. Having cameras a different angles to show what this sob can do. Then I would show a filthy a$$ rider standing next to a filthy a$$ bike, so filthy that you can only see the giant small on his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    I'm excited to see a certain local on a full suspension Turner should he get the bug for it. AFAIK it is one of the few brands of bikes he can't break (big dude).
    But, he did break it. Turner covered it under warranty but it did break.

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    Early teaser for sure. I am betting this kind of bike will be easily available in the near future. Now show us some real time trail ripping!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    DW rear suspension?
    That would be great.

    and add in a Pike+ with 35mm stanchions and you are golden.
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    gcappy will be shi**in his pants over this....maybe

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    Dang, and another one!.....

    by 2016 I wanna see a carbon full squish from Santa Cruz....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Dang, and another one!.....

    by 2016 I wanna see a carbon full squish from Santa Cruz....
    be careful what you wish for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    be careful what you wish for.
    lol I know....
    that is why I'm putting the 2015 buffer in there to let the visa cool off.....

    ehh...only live once thought right? wtf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    ehh...only live once thought right? wtf!
    infuggedndeed that has been my philosophy on occasion.

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    I'm thinking part out the Jet RDO, use drivetrain for fat fs, switch Bluto over, buy crankset and build a wheelset. [email protected] make it stop it hurts, must resist!!

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    I'm waiting for the Specialized FSR " Frumpjumper" fatty. I know it's got to be on the drawing board right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    I'm waiting for the Specialized FSR " Frumpjumper" fatty. I know it's got to be on the drawing board right?
    tis only a matter of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    I'm waiting for the Specialized FSR " Frumpjumper" fatty. I know it's got to be on the drawing board right?
    Wouldn't want that, the turner will actually pedal well AND absorb bumps. Pick one with an FSR.
    Last edited by Jayem; 09-19-2014 at 07:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Wouldn't want that, the turner will actually pedal well ABD absorb bumps. Pick one with an FSR.
    +1 - if you want to sell me a FS fatty a DW link bike is the way to sway me to the dark side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taiter View Post
    But, he did break it. Turner covered it under warranty but it did break.
    Dang! Well, good on Turner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taiter View Post
    But, he did break it. Turner covered it under warranty but it did break.
    I don't want to ride a bike that nobody can break. That would suck to ride. I do want a bike that doesn't break very often under normal use for an average weight rider.
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    My buddy sent his old Turner frame in for a refurb. When he didn't hear from them in a couple months he called and an embarrassed guy told him they had a break in and his frame was one of the ones that was stollen. They gave him a same year and model frame refurbished for free and gave him a brand new 27.5 whole bike for dealer cost. I would do business with Turner!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    +1 - if you want to sell me a FS fatty a DW link bike is the way to sway me to the dark side.
    This^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I'm thinking part out the Jet RDO, use drivetrain for fat fs, switch Bluto over, buy crankset and build a wheelset. [email protected] make it stop it hurts, must resist!!
    Don't fight it!Just give in and the hurt will fade.Trust me!LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    +1 - if you want to sell me a FS fatty a DW link bike is the way to sway me to the dark side.
    but it's the right side.......or is it left? in all this confusion i forgot if i fired 5 shots or 6.

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    Price? Specs? When can I get one?...........

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    Me thinks that the Canfield Bros need to turn a fatty fat into a real fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat907 View Post
    Price? Specs? When can I get one?...........
    They are being very tight lipped

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    Typical...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    My buddy sent his old Turner frame in for a refurb. When he didn't hear from them in a couple months he called and an embarrassed guy told him they had a break in and his frame was one of the ones that was stollen. They gave him a same year and model frame refurbished for free and gave him a brand new 27.5 whole bike for dealer cost. I would do business with Turner!!
    I cracked the seat-tube on mine due to running too much exposed seatpost, seatpost was well within spec, but too big of a lever on too small of a frame will never work, so Turner sent me a L size mainframe and new rockers, all warranty. Not everything is perfect with turners, early highlines had dropout problems (sorted by the time I got one), and so on, but Dave Turner is one of the stand-up guys in MTB that takes the time do do stuff right and if there should be a problem, he will make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Wouldn't want that, the turner will actually pedal well AND absorb bumps. Pick one with an FSR.
    I maybe in the minority here, but I'll disagree. I think the horst links do extremely well on the fast rough trails. My DW Turner always felt overwhelmed, until you got to the smoother flowy singletracks.

    I guess it depend on your trails or riding styles.

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    No info still but there are some better pics on there fb page now.

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    A couple of pics riding the kamakasi on fb page

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Looks like a nice bike, but a video of a bunch of FS fat bikes in a parking lot is pretty cheesy imho. Not really a good way to showcase what a bike is capable of, unless it is only intended to be ridden in a parking lot, then directly into the lbs to be worked on (which is what the video is showing) On top of that the last rider looks like he may be on a bike 2 sizes to small.

    I am in a bad mood today...sorry Turner.
    I actually felt the same way. Why even bother making a video like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    I actually felt the same way. Why even bother making a video like that?
    exposure and stir the pot.....which for all intense and purposes worked quite well.

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    I was happy to see that there is a DW fatty FS bike in the works. I don't have the attention span of a gnat so I can wait **gasp** days for more details to emerge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I was happy to see that there is a DW fatty FS bike in the works. I don't have the attention span of a gnat so I can wait **gasp** days for more details to emerge.
    breathe deep grasshopper....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I don't have the attention span of a gnat
    But I do.... Did someone mention Intense? Now I could see riding an Intense as well <a*href="https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" title="Smiley"><img src="https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-excited001.gif" alt="Smiley" border="0" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I cracked the seat-tube on mine due to running too much exposed seatpost, seatpost was well within spec, but too big of a lever on too small of a frame will never work, so Turner sent me a L size mainframe and new rockers, all warranty. Not everything is perfect with turners, early highlines had dropout problems (sorted by the time I got one), and so on, but Dave Turner is one of the stand-up guys in MTB that takes the time do do stuff right and if there should be a problem, he will make it right.
    Just to share a similar story: I had a 1996 Turner Afterburner DH bike that I used in the Later 90's as a FR bike. I broke the frame at the BB and called turner about it. He said to send it in and they would cut out the BB and replace it with a new one. It wasn't until they had it that they realized it used a different sized BB assembly than their current bikes so he offered to sell me whatever main frame I wanted that would work with my existing rear triangle and stuff so I got an XCE main frame for a few bucks and was back in business with a 3 lbs lighter bike and I rode that until I broke its frame and moved on. I should also say that I wasn't the original owner of the Afterburner.

    Turner understands customer service which is something you are buying when you get their bikes. I would get as fat Turner in a heartbeat. Be a do it all bike and hopefully a forever bike, or as forever as a full sus bike can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtndude23 View Post
    I maybe in the minority here, but I'll disagree. I think the horst links do extremely well on the fast rough trails. My DW Turner always felt overwhelmed, until you got to the smoother flowy singletracks.

    I guess it depend on your trails or riding styles.
    As long as the trail is level or downhill, I agree, but they suffer way more than other frames when you turn uphill, due to the excessive squat. Unless you've ridden something else a lot, you sometimes don't realize what you are missing, how much of your pedal stroke can translate into forward momentum on an uphill. That was the dramatic difference. I demoed DW Link Turners back to back with Horst Link ones, the difference was dramatic. The ability to run very light compression damping and soak up the sharp edged hits coupled with the acceleration/pedaling performance is miles above the Horst Link. My comment about "pick two" was in reference to Specialized's realization of this. This is why they use the Brain shock, because there is such better stuff available now and to make that design competitive, you have to go to those extremes.

    For the record, I ride an HL bike right now (a different one than the 4 or 5 I've previously owned), I chose it because of factors other than it's pedaling performance, but I must say it's exactly how I thought it'd be as far as that's concerned. If something was available with the pedaling performance and other features when I bought this, I'd own that "something else".
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    So enduro fat, is that the new trend?
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    couple years ago someone made a post here, about what we wanted in a FS fatty.
    almost universally people were saying "4-5" of susp front and rear, to make true "go everywhere bikes" instead of pretend that an xc platform can really run 1300 gram tires.

    not sure if "enduro" is the word I'd use, but we've been waiting awhile for it.
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    Come on DT post a geo chart!

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    Gotta be honest, it should have been done long ago. I just got back from nasty single track ride that basically required at a minimum front suspension. I currently ride a Trek Fuel FS bike and I hate it on rocky rough technical trails. I feel bigger tires would help improve the ride on trails like that 10 fold. My only problem with fat bikes is picking one, but I'm tired of waiting so I think I will take a Carbon Framed Alaskan with Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer View Post
    Come on DT post a geo chart!
    You know he is lurking, yeah I'm calling you out man Give us the skinny or should I say the fat!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    You know he is lurking, yeah I'm calling you out man Give us the skinny or should I say the fat!!
    I am with bdundee!Bring it!LOL

    Looks like there is no provision for a front der?Could be a sign of shorter stays.I am pumped on all the new fatty stuff coming out.At this point my fatty is my mtb.Period!
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    Nice suspension configuration for use with a frame bag. Just say'n...
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    my brain hurts.........650b 45mm wheelset with 650b+ rubber = ?????

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    turner goes FAT.....






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    We just won.
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    ^ yup seen them and happy it's coming soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robg68 View Post





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    Ok, so much win here.

    And I will mortgage my soul for one - if it will fit 100's with Bud&Lou.

    Looks like the demo has Nates and Marge Lites? Or Rolling Darryls?



    Nate/ML width is 99mm per Surly

    Nate/RD is 101mm, so I guess it doesn't matter much.

    My problem is Lou/Clownshoe at 119mm

    There was one pic in the original video that showed good tire clearance (can't find it separate), but it would have to be 15mm on each side to clear well. Oh, please let it be so......

    A Bluto will clear a Bud/Clownshoe:


    And here's the Khan wheel/tires in there:
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    turner goes FAT.....

    This appears to me to be in the same vein as the Bucksaw , an all arounder. But I could be completely wrong


    Pedaling

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    Ok, so much win here.

    Looks like the demo has Nates and Marge Lites?
    me believes ML's with nates is correct in the pics but i've yet to see close-ups of the rear tri showing clearance for anything larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    This appears to me to be in the same vein as the Bucksaw , an all arounder. But I could be completely wrong


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    Yup I agree.

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    So I talked to Turner today, King Kahn is 125mm travel DW link, 170mm rear spacing, 100mm threaded BB. It is set up for 1x drivetrain only. The bike Dave had this weekend is the first and only prototype at this point. They are testing the waters with this and will see what kind of demand there really is. Specs should be out soon. I am ordering mine asap! King Kahn the fearless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    So I talked to Turner today, King Kahn is 125mm travel DW link, 170mm rear spacing, 100mm threaded BB. It is set up for 1x drivetrain only. The bike Dave had this weekend is the first and only prototype at this point. They are testing the waters with this and will see what kind of demand there really is. Specs should be out soon. I am ordering mine asap! King Kahn the fearless!
    My down payment is waiting for them to take it

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    My down payment is waiting for them to take it
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Forged1 again.

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    Did he say if they'll be letting people ride it at Outerbike? Sounds like a one-off proto. Maybe just on display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Did he say if they'll be letting people ride it at Outerbike? Sounds like a one-off proto. Maybe just on display.
    Didn'tsayanythingaboutouterbike,butpeopleracedital lweekendatMammoth,frigginkeyboard...arggggh!!!

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    Ok 1x like I thought.Must have pretty short stays.This fully fatty stuff gets better by the day.Wonder what Ventana,Pivot etc. will come up with!

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    Someone asks about demos on his Facebook page . Dave/ drop by the shop and take a ride.

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    turner goes FAT.....

    Hmmm, if it's only a prototype, it might be possible to request a 190mm rear spacing option to fit in a clownshoe rim. Maybe DT is open to suggestions and feedback on it? The nice thing about alloy is that the expensive carbon mold hasn't been set.

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    I know if it goes to 190 with big clearance I'm out.

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    turner goes FAT.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I know if it goes to 190 with big clearance I'm out.
    Why's that? Chainstay/heel interference issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlim View Post
    Why's that? Chainstay/heel interference issues?
    No I'm good on that front, I want as short of chainstays as possible using a 100mm threaded bb and as light as possible. That is really hard to do and leave clearance for the biggest of biggest. I'm just looking to replace my Jet rdo with something a little fatter, that and I already have an ok 190 bike.

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    You can do big tires with 170 and 1x10 or 1x11, depends on the chainstays/seatstays, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    No I'm good on that front, I want as short of chainstays as possible using a 100mm threaded bb and as light as possible. That is really hard to do and leave clearance for the biggest of biggest. I'm just looking to replace my Jet rdo with something a little fatter, that and I already have an ok 190 bike.
    Zooming in on the MTB mag high res shot, there's a significant amount of daylight between the Nate mounted on Marge Lites and the surrounding chainstay yoke. Could be the DW path with the rerouted seat tube might let you run a bigger tire without super long stays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I know if it goes to 190 with big clearance I'm out.
    You know that's where I come in!! lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I'm just looking to replace my Jet rdo with something a little fatter, that and I already have an ok 190 bike.
    You talking about that Ti beast your slinging around? OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    You know that's where I come in!! lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    You can do big tires with 170 and 1x10 or 1x11, depends on the chainstays/seatstays, etc.
    Yes I know you can but to achieve short stays it gets hard, Look what they had to do to get the bigs to fit on MC's bike. That and I don't like riding the 190 in big rocks with tight clearances, you really have to watch that rear der. Just my reasoning nobody needs to like it I just want a 170 frame for trail riding and I don't need anything wider. If it does fit the bigs and has a cs length of around 17.25 with a 170 rear that awesome and I'm in as well.

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    You know that's where I come in!! lol.
    Yeah I was waiting for it.

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    You talking about that Ti beast your slinging around? OK?


    We still need to get out and ride before the snow falls, maybe meet up at Levis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    We still need to get out and ride before the snow falls, maybe meet up at Levis?
    Great idea!! Friday afternoons or next Sunday afternoon would work I think. You thinking a fat bike gathering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Great idea!! Friday afternoons or next Sunday afternoon would work I think. You thinking a fat bike gathering?
    Sure Fat or whatever, let me talk to the better half. Either days work for me Sundays maybe a little better. Maybe a few from the Cities would join as well. Drew?

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    Lets Shoot for 10/12/14? 3pm at Levis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Lets Shoot for 10/12/14? 3pm at Levis?
    OK sounds good but I will have to ask aka beg the wife tomorrow. Going on a long ride tonight so I can't mention it till tomorrow. Someday I am going to sneak into her purse and get my [email protected] back!!

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    Someday I am going to sneak into her purse and get my [email protected] back!!
    Can't get back what cha never had.

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    Hey, I do have a set of 80 mm rims you know! On my wife's bike of course! But she is running Bud/Ground Control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    Didn'tsayanythingaboutouterbike,butpeopleracedital lweekendatMammoth,frigginkeyboard...arggggh!!!
    Just received an email from Dave and his answer to that question was: "That's the plan!"
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    All had been painfully quiet on their FB page as of late, now I guess we sit back and wait.

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