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    Surly ICT thread

    Picked it up last week. Road it by my house for a couple of miles, need to adjust the derailleur a little bit and figure out why the headset feels loose. Thinking about going to a bluto. Anyone have one on theirs yet? What size? Thinking about getting the 80mm in white and change the lines to white....



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    That's one good looking bike! Saw a guy on the local trail tearing it up on one of those w/ a Bluto.
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    Looks awesome. What size is it?

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    White Bluto's an OE product, might be hard to find one. I agree though it would look sweet. Congrats.

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    Mine is a large. Passed quite a few people out riding today. Verdict- ladies love it, guys hate it. Lots of dirty looks passing full suspension carbon Specialized's
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCDKV View Post
    White Bluto's an OE product, might be hard to find one. I agree though it would look sweet. Congrats.
    Yeah, I think white would be very nice. Keep an eye out on Ebay

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    The one I saw with a bluto was white. It did look good.
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    Re: Surly ICT thread

    It's a nice bike. I love that color, and those custom drawn steel tubes.

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    Thanks guys, I have a question about the Bluto. If the A2C on the stock Surly fork is 483mm. The bluto is as follows:

    80mm- 491mm
    100mm-511mm
    120mm- 531mm

    So with sag which will most closely keep the stock geometry? I'm not concerned with making the HA slightly steeper (within 1° or so) but I'd like to not really go any more slack.
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    Did you change the rims ?
    they look like the golden Clown Shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by scr74 View Post
    Did you change the rims ?
    they look like the golden Clown Shoes
    They are

    It was built from a frame set.

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    Not sure yet if I Want to add another color. Thinking either white cable housings and white bluto, or black bluto with gold cables and possibly a gold seat post. Thinking about throwing on a gold chain as well.
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    Re: Surly ICT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    Thanks guys, I have a question about the Bluto. If the A2C on the stock Surly fork is 483mm. The bluto is as follows:

    80mm- 491mm
    100mm-511mm
    120mm- 531mm

    So with sag which will most closely keep the stock geometry? I'm not concerned with making the HA slightly steeper (within 1° or so) but I'd like to not really go any more slack.
    This is rudimentary at best but factoring in a 20% sag and using your #'s then:
    80mm = 475mm
    100mm = 491mm
    120mm = 507mm
    I'm sure someone much more knowledgeable will chime in but it looks like your wanting the 80 but should be fine with the 100 allowing for a bit more sag.

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    Surly ICT thread

    That SS version the Surly boys have been flaunting in their blog sports an 80


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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    Thanks guys, I have a question about the Bluto. If the A2C on the stock Surly fork is 483mm. The bluto is as follows:

    80mm- 491mm
    100mm-511mm
    120mm- 531mm

    So with sag which will most closely keep the stock geometry? I'm not concerned with making the HA slightly steeper (within 1° or so) but I'd like to not really go any more slack.
    The rigid ICT a-c is listed as 487mm. So like most Bluto compatible frames right now, it looks to be "designed" for the 100mm Bluto. If you factor in 25% sag, the 100mm is at 486mm.

    I had originally wanted a 120mm Bluto for my ICT but ended up going with a 100mm. Riding the rigid bike around, I just really liked the geometry and so I didn't want to mess with it too much.

    Suspension is another personal preference thing. From what you said, if you don't want a slacker head angle, you're pretty much looking at the 80 or 100mm Bluto. If you want to go a bit steeper on head angle, then the 80mm is the best bet. The 100mm will keep the geometry about the same depending on how much air you like to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkzhao View Post
    The rigid ICT a-c is listed as 487mm. So like most Bluto compatible frames right now, it looks to be "designed" for the 100mm Bluto. If you factor in 25% sag, the 100mm is at 486mm.

    I had originally wanted a 120mm Bluto for my ICT but ended up going with a 100mm. Riding the rigid bike around, I just really liked the geometry and so I didn't want to mess with it too much.

    Suspension is another personal preference thing. From what you said, if you don't want a slacker head angle, you're pretty much looking at the 80 or 100mm Bluto. If you want to go a bit steeper on head angle, then the 80mm is the best bet. The 100mm will keep the geometry about the same depending on how much air you like to run.
    Perfect thank you.


    Got my first real ride in today and set 3 new overall PR's on Strava lol. The joys of a new bike and chasing/passing the XC types I just wish I didn't have an $8,000 carbon FS bike sitting in my garage that I'm slower on lol... Got top 15 in one segment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    Perfect thank you.


    Got my first real ride in today and set 3 new overall PR's on Strava lol. The joys of a new bike and chasing/passing the XC types I just wish I didn't have an $8,000 carbon FS bike sitting in my garage that I'm slower on lol... Got top 15 in one segment.
    So the ICT is a real Strava-(PR)hunting bike? Hahaha! cool! (and in the meanwhile 'Racing Sucks' )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Snakebite View Post
    So the ICT is a real Strava-(PR)hunting bike? Hahaha! cool! (and in the meanwhile 'Racing Sucks' )
    I set a ton of PRs on mine yesterday without even trying. It was also one of the longest rides I've ever done. I bet if I was trying for speed I'd blow my previous times out of the water. And this is coming from a XC 29er that should by all accounts be faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    I set a ton of PRs on mine yesterday without even trying. It was also one of the longest rides I've ever done. I bet if I was trying for speed I'd blow my previous times out of the water. And this is coming from a XC 29er that should by all accounts be faster.
    Hahah yep, you can see the other bikes I have in my signature. My arc is slightly over 20lbs. The way I had my ICT setup yesterday it was a good 18lbs heavier and I beat the climb that I've probably ridden 100 times by a solid 5 minutes.

    There's something to be said about chasing down carbon hard tails on a steel fat bike though. It makes my heart feel warm and fuzzy hahahaha
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    On descents on loose gravely stuff or dirt, the ICT traction and slacker geo gives me more confidence to go faster than my XC 29er. Putting the Bluto on makes the rocky descents faster too.

    On climbs, it's not even close. My 29er wins out by far. Being 15+lb lighter is still a big deal.

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    how is the real world sizing of the ICT? I am roughly 510-11 and from the numbers torn between a med and large. I pedaled around a med but felt a hair small, but its got a pretty long TT for a med.

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    If I were you I'd get a large and swap out the stem for a slightly shorter one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    Hahah yep, you can see the other bikes I have in my signature. My arc is slightly over 20lbs. The way I had my ICT setup yesterday it was a good 18lbs heavier and I beat the climb that I've probably ridden 100 times by a solid 5 minutes.

    There's something to be said about chasing down carbon hard tails on a steel fat bike though. It makes my heart feel warm and fuzzy hahahaha


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    thanks, that's what i was thinking as well. The large comes with an 80mm stem. Maybe swaping for like an 60mm i would feel good on the large

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    I'm 6' 1/2", 33" inseam. I have a large with a 90mm stem. I'm swapping to a 70mm as soon as I get the funds to match the rest of my bikes. To be honest though it doesn't feel bad with a 90mm. Gets your weight forward a little bit for the climbs.

    I would try to ride both. I normally like a smaller feeling bike... Maybe try a large with a 50/60mm stem, and a medium with a 90mm. It also depends on the area you live and how much climbing there is. Here in the front range everything is at least 1000' climb so I like being able to keep the front wheel down.

    I like having a smaller bike in the snow as well.
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    My buddy just built one up for a shop demo.



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    man that is great, the photo of the guy riding it is a great pic !!!

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    Surly ICT thread

    Yeah, that's him. Owns the shop, puts together some sick custom builds, and is one of the real pillars of our cycling community.

    I haven't gotten a chance to take the ICT out yet, but hopefully I will before long. Looks like a lot of fun.

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    I would go with a 100mm Bluto. As far as I can tell there is one part that is different between the sizes and it costs about $40. And you can get 90mm and 110mm.

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    100mm it is. I'm loving the dropper post on that demo bike too. As soon as I finish my wife's 907 I'm going to change some more things on mine- 100mm bluto for sure. Swapping out the 90mm stem to a 70mm, and some wider carbon bars. I'd like to make this thing a little more comfortable for some endurance 30+ mile rides. Just put a syntace hi flex carbon seat post to see if that takes a little edge off.

    I'd also like to build a 29+ wheel set but I have all winter for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    how is the real world sizing of the ICT? I am roughly 510-11 and from the numbers torn between a med and large. I pedaled around a med but felt a hair small, but its got a pretty long TT for a med.
    I'm 5'11" and got the large. Perfect fit. I felt the same as you on a medium.

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    ^^^^Ditto.

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    My shop had a guy buy a blue ICT and put a 100mm Bluto on it. I set him up tubeless the other day and today when I went in the shop, there was this big discussion on returning the Bluto.

    Why?

    When he would pump the tires up over 12psi, the Bud would rub enough on the crown that it would stop the wheel. Didn't fit. The guys at the shop called RockShox and they said this fork wasn't designed for the Bud/Clownshoe setup. After back and forth with QBP, they finally agreed to refund him.

    Sorry, but I did not see it in person, but I obviously trust my shop was telling the truth.

    Sounds like kind of a big deal! Anyone having issues?

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    the stock rigid fork looks better anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    the stock rigid fork looks better anyway.

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    I agree, IF i were to go hardtail fatbike, I'd go with 80mm rims max anyways.

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    The Bud on 80s is close enough for the new tire nubbies to hit the crown. But it would seem to me that a wider rim would actually decrease the circumference, no?

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    decrease height, increase width.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    decrease height, increase width.

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    You sure?

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    I've had my front tire between 8-10 psi, tubeless, with the bluto and have encountered no issues. That includes a lot of riding on bumpy technical trails, and I weigh ~225 with gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    I've had my front tire between 8-10 psi, tubeless, with the bluto and have encountered no issues. That includes a lot of riding on bumpy technical trails, and I weigh ~225 with gear.
    what front tire/rim? Photos/Video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    what front tire/rim? Photos/Video?
    Bud with a Clownshoe.






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    Quote Originally Posted by matto6 View Post
    quite

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    quite

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    Serious question: have you measured the height of the same bud on two different width rims? Did you click my link?

    Lots of people assume the general rule that wider rims = shorter tire. It's often not true. Narrower rims pull the tire in more, leaving less for height. Rounder, yes. Taller, no.

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    If you look at the surly tire geometry chart, (http://surlybikes.com//uploads/downl...Geometries.pdf)
    you will find that fat tire diameters don't change with changes in rim width. (65mm/80mm/100mm).

    The 29+ and 26+ tires do get taller as rim width increases from 29mm to 50mm.

    Is the data 100% accurate? I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brebla View Post
    If you look at the surly tire geometry chart, (http://surlybikes.com//uploads/downl...Geometries.pdf)
    you will find that fat tire diameters don't change with changes in rim width. (65mm/80mm/100mm).

    The 29+ and 26+ tires do get taller as rim width increases from 29mm to 50mm.

    Is the data 100% accurate? I don't know.
    Actual data. Nice.

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    my 3.8 on 65 is taller than on 80. end of story.

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    This thread is about a bud on a 100.

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    same difference. a bud on 80 would be taller.

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    Re: Surly ICT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    same difference. a bud on 80 would be taller.

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    Did you not see brebla's post to Surley's measurements that say you're wrong?

    And my link that with more data confirming your generalization is false?

    Wider rim does not always producer a smaller diameter tire. Lots of evidence of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    My buddy just built one up for a shop demo.

    Man....that is a pretty sweet build! Very original. Me likey.

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    not saying smaller, just taller. surly is wrong. bunch a wake n bakers over there.

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    Re: Surly ICT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    not saying smaller, just taller.
    Umm, what?

    You know what... never mind. I'm good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matto6 View Post
    This thread is about a bud on a 100.
    Thread derailed really.

    This issue is way over there.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/ict...ty-936335.html

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    I'd like a bashring for my ICT.
    the 94bcd OD cranks have the 5th chainring bolt in the back of the crank arm preventing all of the bashrings I've found from fitting.

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    How are you all liking your ICT's? I'm ready to pull the trigger on one next week so just looking for some feedback...What did you all pay?
    SWING YOUR LEG OVER IT AND PEDAL:cool:

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    I'm 6'1 would L or XL be best? they don't have any in the shop. 34 inseam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan1113 View Post
    I'm 6'1 would L or XL be best? they don't have any in the shop. 34 inseam
    I am just guessing obviously, but I would think Large. I am 6'4" and ride an XL, but I ride with a guy who is 6'0" and my Pugs is definitely too big for him.
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    Thanks guys! I'm going to check out ICT next Thursday and really looking forward to it. It's a size large so I will know if it's too small. Can't wait
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    ^nice..look forward to some pics. I think it will fit great...want to see more pics if this bike with some dirt
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    ^ I will post for sure!! I live in desert area of So Cal and it should excel on the trails.
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    More pics please !!!!!!!

    Still waiting for my ICT here in germany.
    I hope I will get it this month.

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    Here are a few from the last week or so. Can you tell I like that big back shoe?
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    Nice! I've just ordered a Straggler and am looking at adding an ICT to the order. I ride a Giant Trance 27.5 0 at the moment and wonder if the lack of suspension will be too much pain to handle?? I'm 55 and although pretty fit do have some reservations about my ability to absorb some of the impact from drops, steps etc. the Bluto fork would help I guess?? Any comments/ helpful advice?

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    Full rigid is a different kind of riding. Lots of body English involved. The Bluto will definitely help some. The large tires are not the suspension one would imagine.
    I like it though. Takes me back to when I raced my Can-O-Ale "Beast of the East" with Pepperoni Fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Himself View Post
    Nice! I've just ordered a Straggler and am looking at adding an ICT to the order. I ride a Giant Trance 27.5 0 at the moment and wonder if the lack of suspension will be too much pain to handle?? I'm 55 and although pretty fit do have some reservations about my ability to absorb some of the impact from drops, steps etc. the Bluto fork would help I guess?? Any comments/ helpful advice?
    A rigid fat bike still mostly feels like a rigid bike. The tires provide some dampening but it's not the same as suspension.

    Still, it comes down to the type of terrain that you want to ride. On smooth flowing dirt, you really don't need suspension. When you're bombing down more technical rocky terrain, having some more squish up front can really save you wrists and joints.

    I don't own one but I've ridden a friend's Trance 27.5 quite a few times. I would say with a Bluto and the right tire pressures, I'm comfortable taking the ICT on any trail that I would feel comfortable on the Trance. Without a Bluto, the rockier stuff definitely puts more stress on my arms and wrists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bone Shaker View Post
    Full rigid is a different kind of riding. Lots of body English involved. The Bluto will definitely help some. The large tires are not the suspension one would imagine.
    I like it though. Takes me back to when I raced my Can-O-Ale "Beast of the East" with Pepperoni Fork.
    Memories! I think I was better in my mind than reality. I had a San Andreas back in the day. Full sus but not as we know it!!



    Quote Originally Posted by rkzhao View Post
    A rigid fat bike still mostly feels like a rigid bike. The tires provide some dampening but it's not the same as suspension.

    Still, it comes down to the type of terrain that you want to ride. On smooth flowing dirt, you really don't need suspension. When you're bombing down more technical rocky terrain, having some more squish up front can really save you wrists and joints.

    I don't own one but I've ridden a friend's Trance 27.5 quite a few times. I would say with a Bluto and the right tire pressures, I'm comfortable taking the ICT on any trail that I would feel comfortable on the Trance. Without a Bluto, the rockier stuff definitely puts more stress on my arms and wrists.
    Therein lies the problem. I agree and it seems like I may have to buy a frame and wheels and try to source the Bluto and then build the bike up which will end up being very expensive here in NZ.
    I don't ride lots of highly technical stuff any more but I still want the option but don't want to keep the Trance just for the occasional ride. Hmmmmm.

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    Here are a few from the last week or so. Can you tell I like that big back shoe?
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    Got some friends that bought Pugs and Pugs ops and havent touched their 29er HT's! Really love my 29er so I will try to ride her too so she's not lonely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Himself View Post
    Therein lies the problem. I agree and it seems like I may have to buy a frame and wheels and try to source the Bluto and then build the bike up which will end up being very expensive here in NZ.
    I don't ride lots of highly technical stuff any more but I still want the option but don't want to keep the Trance just for the occasional ride. Hmmmmm.
    There are other bikes around the same price range that are speced with a Bluto like the Rocky Mountain Blizzard.

    With the ICT, there's nothing that says you can't just get the complete bike and add a Bluto later if you want. If you find that riding the bike around rigid is fine, then you wouldn't have to spend the extra money. I still plan on swapping my rigid fork back on for the snow just for the simplicity.

    Also, what's wrong with keeping the Trance for the occasional ride? You can never have too many bikes

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    I don't ride lots of highly technical stuff any more but I still want the option but don't want to keep the Trance just for the occasional ride. Hmmmmm.
    You don't need suspension to ride a fatbike through ugly stuff. The rigid fat is great at rock crawling, etc.

    It's if you want both ugly and *fast* that the bluto starts to becomes key. I you have mad skills you might be fine even then, but for most of us this is where the bluto is the game changer.

    I do kinda miss the rigid feel so I think I'm putting the stock fork back on my fatboy for winter. The speeds will be down once it snows so why not enjoy some quality time with the stiffy.

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    Interesting thoughts. We don't have snow here, mainly forest roads(rough) and roots slippery trails although I travel down to Auckland a bit to ride in a sandy forest. I kind of ride the road for fitness, gravel because it's relaxing and trails because it's fun. I completely agree with the never too many bikes theory. Its N +1 for the perfect amount of bikes, with N being the number of bikes currently owned. Thanks for the opinions/thoughts, the more the merrier.

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    So I managed to break a spoke trying to unseat my tire last night... anyone know what length and size spokes are on the rear wheel (Clownshoe and 190mm hub)?

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    Interesting thoughts. We don't have snow here, mainly forest roads(rough) and roots slippery trails although I travel down to Auckland a bit to ride in a sandy forest. I kind of ride the road for fitness, gravel because it's relaxing and trails because it's fun. I completely agree with the never too many bikes theory. Its N +1 for the perfect amount of bikes, with N being the number of bikes currently owned. Thanks for the opinions/thoughts, the more the merrier.
    I'm in Auckland and my ICT works well in the sandy forest. Just ordered a bluetoe to take the edge off as I do most of my riding in a slippery rooty forest (riverhead). I've got a lefty on my 9 zero 7 fatbike, so I miss the squish.

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    [QUOTE=mr pinga;11548661]I'm in Auckland and my ICT works well in the sandy forest. Just ordered a bluetoe to take the edge off as I do most of my riding in a slippery rooty forest (riverhead). I've got a lefty on my 9 zero 7 fatbike, so I miss the squish.
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    Hi Brett, is it the ICT or the ICT ops? I've just found the Salsa Bucksaw and am looking into that too. I love my Trance but have the urge to Fatbike so.........it could tick all the boxes!

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    Hehe, had to think about that one for a second.

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    Hi Brett, is it the ICT or the ICT ops? I've just found the Salsa Bucksaw and am looking into that too. I love my Trance but have the urge to Fatbike so.........it could tick all the boxes!
    Blue ICT, only mods I've done is carbon bars and a thud buster seatpost. Just received some mammoth tyres to try out in the wet clay.

    Bucksaw looks good. One of our gang members has just ordered one, so should get a ride soon

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    Nice. Let me know what you/he think of it. How did he order it?? From overseas or a local place? Ta.

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    Nice. Let me know what you/he think of it. How did he order it?? From overseas or a local place? Ta.
    Private import, just like the other 3 ICT in our gang, don't think there's a salsa or surly dealer in NZ

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    I've got a small interest in a bike shop up here in Kerikeri. Tim stocks Surly, or at least gets them in to order. Salsa..I don't know and they haven't replied yet.

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    Funny is two guys in my local area have the ICT now...guess i won't be the first haha! everyone keeps telling me size L for my height. Will know for sure on Thursday when i test one out. So damn excited
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr pinga View Post
    Private import, just like the other 3 ICT in our gang, don't think there's a salsa or surly dealer in NZ

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    Cycletech distributes Surly and is starting to distribute Salsa. There are stockists all over the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UlrichNQ View Post
    Cycletech distributes Surly and is starting to distribute Salsa. There are stockists all over the country.
    True that man. We just ordered the Surly Straggler for me today and put a Salsa Bucksaw on order with them.....so excited now!!!!!!

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    Thanks for the info guys.

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    What does your ICT with Bluto weigh?
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    Ok, I'm running a Duct Tape / Gorilla Tape tubeless setup now. Its holding air, at least so far. We'll see how it does in the morning.

    With the XXL frame, stock components, plus a Bluto and a Reverb Dropper Post, my scale is saying 38.0 pounds. I would guess without the Reverb and with a smaller frame you'd be around 36 pounds. With the frame bags filled with snacks, water, tools, a spare tube, a first aide kit, etc etc, the whole setup is around 55 pounds. But it beats wearing a backpack!

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    I've got the XXL as well. No idea what it weighs, but she sure isn't a lightweight. Not that I care, neither am I!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    Ok, I'm running a Duct Tape / Gorilla Tape tubeless setup now. Its holding air, at least so far. We'll see how it does in the morning.

    With the XXL frame, stock components, plus a Bluto and a Reverb Dropper Post, my scale is saying 38.0 pounds. I would guess without the Reverb and with a smaller frame you'd be around 36 pounds. With the frame bags filled with snacks, water, tools, a spare tube, a first aide kit, etc etc, the whole setup is around 55 pounds. But it beats wearing a backpack!
    Yeah i'm going to try this set up when I pick mine up next week...pinch flats suck
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    I do like the orange setup on the ICT! I'm going to go red on mine ...
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    So, I'm 6'-2" and a skosh, but I have super long gorilla arms. 6'-5" fingertip to fingertip.

    My RIP9 and EMD9 are both XL, which have the same top tube length as an XL ICT. Those bikes are comfortable.

    Any reason that a fat bike would lead me to size down to a Large?

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    The only thing different for me between a 29er and a fat bike for trail use is I like to run a little wider handlebar on the fat bike, which leads to a shorter stem. So I would get the same effective top tube length on a fat bike as a 29er. Some people talk about for snow use being more worried about standover, but it seems to me that people also say that in deep snow it's hopeless anyway. I don't know anything about riding in the snow myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bone Shaker View Post
    Here are a few from the last week or so. Can you tell I like that big back shoe?
    Really nice looking bike!

    Maybe I'm not looking in the right spot but I can't seem to find any pricing on Surly's site so I have no idea where to start in budgeting for one of these. Love the look of your build but what could one expect to pay for something similar? I don't need top of the line components, may even use as a SS for awhile, but I love the wheels and frame on your build. Mind shooting me a PM with a general idea on price? Plan on budgeting around $1500. Thanks.

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    unfortunately you better add another grand + to your budget

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    msrp for the standard ICT is $2700
    msrp for the ICT Ops is $2400

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    I'm not sure where you are but, you can check the Surly Dealers in your area on their site for pricing. You may get lucky and find a sale this week. My ride is a full build from them with a different seatpost and stem that I prefer. If you are building from the frame up, your budget may be a little low I would think. I guess it can be done if you have some of the parts already. Those wheels and tires new are a good chunk of your budget.
    I wanted to build from the frame up, but I also wanted to ride this Fall so I got the whole shebang.

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    Wow, I see no dealers in my area. Quick question, what are the differences in the "Ops" models and the main model? I see they have a Pugsley then a Pug Ops as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy21 View Post
    Wow, I see no dealers in my area. Quick question, what are the differences in the "Ops" models and the main model? I see they have a Pugsley then a Pug Ops as well.
    The Ops has:
    -80mm rims rather than 100mm
    -3.8 nate tires rather than 5 inch bud/Lou
    -black rather than blue
    -thumb shifter rather than trigger
    There might be other stuff but this is off the top of my head so...

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    Has anyone built up an ICT frameset rather than going complete? (Edit, just noticed the first page of the thread...)

    I'm adding up the cost of the parts/frame on the complete build and there doesn't seem to be much savings in it. I'm wondering if a complete build could come in around the same price and maybe even shave some weight.

    A few ideas I'm kicking around:
    -Chinese carbon rims or 80mm Mulefuts
    -RF Turbine crank, 1x10
    -Slightly lighter tires... ground control 4.6 maybe?

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    I built up a 16" truck as well, added chinease carbon forks, fatback UMA 90mm tubeless rims, bud and lou, next sl carbon cranks, Easton sl 90 bars and post, shimano xtr 10 speed with one up 42 tooth gear (makes it like an 11 speed)

    It comes in at 32 pounds with pedals.

    Have a Bluto on another fatty, it's great but adds a couple of pounds

    Personally would go with the 100mm because of 20% fork sag

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    It's not always (or ever) cheaper to build a bike instead of buying a complete, but if you're going to buy the complete bike and then change a bunch of parts, you'll probably be money ahead building your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bone Shaker View Post
    Here are a few from the last week or so. Can you tell I like that big back shoe?
    Those tires make your jeep tires look like racing slicks.
    Still cleaning my Fatback.
    It's a life style.

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    It's funny you mention the Jeep. I just watched it leave my driveway this morning. I sold it. Having sellers remorse a little.
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    It's funny you mention the Jeep. I just watched it leave my driveway this morning. I sold it. Having sellers remorse a little.
    Big mistake. I still have my 83 CJ7. Carries my Moonlander just fine.


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    If I get another one it will be older. The buyer has big plans that I am very excited about. It will take on a new role at a scenario based shooting range. Getting paint and a class three belt fed weapon mounted on the roll cage. Hopefully pics later. Anyway........Ice Cream!
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    My new ride. First fat bike. Really enjoying it. Well except for the flat tire I got on my first ride. 1.5” thorn right through the center tread block right into the tube. Did not even notice until I got back home. Time to go tubeless maybe?
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    It's time to go tubeless. Been riding mine for 10 months flat free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    It's time to go tubeless. Been riding mine for 10 months flat free.
    Did you go split tube? Tape? Any tips for the rim tire combo? Anything you wish you would have known before you started?

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    Replaced the handlebar stem with a slightly longer one to correct a wrist angle to a straight er grab. Will test tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkander View Post
    Did you go split tube? Tape? Any tips for the rim tire combo? Anything you wish you would have known before you started?
    I run Bud and Lou on Clownshoes. I went split tube. I made rim strips out of camo Gorilla Tape. I used a 24" Q Tube. It set up easily and has been trouble free. I had to disassemble the wheel last night because I toasted the rear hub. When I removed the tire, I saw how well it was seated and I had to fight it to get the bead broken.
    So, even though I burp a little air here and there and leak a little sealant, I don't think I ever have to worry about losing my seal completely.
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    Will go tubeless when I pick mine up this week....I really don't trust tubes with slime
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    Just in case anyone was wondering about bikepacking capabilities. My Ice Cream truck performed awesome.

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    Test-rode an ICT along side a Rocky Mountain Blizzard for comparison. Here are my impressions (from riding around the street...)

    -The ICT has an amazing presence. Between the tires/rims and the amazing paint it just stands out compared to the stealthy all-black blizzard. If you want attention the ICT is for you.

    -ICT feels slacker/more stable than the Blizzard even though they share the same listed head tube angle. It could be due to the Blizzard's sag setting on the Bluto but it made the Blizzard feel more like an XC bike. Also the Blizzard felt a bit more compact in the cockpit area.

    -The ICT and the Blizzard feel about the same weight when you pick them up but the Blizzard feels a little quicker when riding. Probably down to the lighter wheels/tire combo.

    -Both bikes have great brakes.

    Both bikes being the same price makes for a hard decision. If you've got to have a Bluto the Blizzard is an excellent value proposition. The ICT definitely has an x-factor about it, though. Basically, I've got a horrible case of analysis paralysis and can't pull the trigger on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rednblackbike View Post
    Just in case anyone was wondering about bikepacking capabilities. My Ice Cream truck performed awesome.

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    How's the new rubber compare to the big meats? Looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    How's the new rubber compare to the big meats? Looking good.
    I like them a lot. Maybe 2mm narrower as far as i can tell. They hook up with everything great with noticeably less rolling resistance. They have seen lita of wet leaves, roots and rocks and so far so good. Split tube tubless was a breeze too

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    How many of you are riding ICT on 1x10/11 setup? What crancks are you using? What are the crancks that can be used (besides Surlys own) on ICT?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rednblackbike View Post
    I like them a lot. Maybe 2mm narrower as far as i can tell. They hook up with everything great with noticeably less rolling resistance. They have seen lita of wet leaves, roots and rocks and so far so good. Split tube tubless was a breeze too
    Looks like you loose some height also. thanks

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    I would imagine you could use the Raceface Turbines if you want a 1 by.
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    I had to resort to my ICT for commuting today. 0 degrees F with lots of new snow. It did great, but it sure took a long time to get to work! I appreciated the sweet thermos that the Surly guys gave me at Buffalo Creek last weekend.




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    Very cool.
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    Custom build? Looks sweet.

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    What cranks / BB you have in this ICT? And yes, it looks great 😄

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    Yes, it's custom as in it showed up with Darryls, thumb shifters and BB7's. We did Clownshoes, SLX brakes and SLX shifters.

    It has a Surly OD crankset. Interesting thing... The rear thru axle is bolt on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    I had to resort to my ICT for commuting today. 0 degrees F with lots of new snow. It did great, but it sure took a long time to get to work! I appreciated the sweet thermos that the Surly guys gave me at Buffalo Creek last weekend.
    Wow, nice bike and awesome setup for 0 deg commuting!

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    what pedals are those ? great looking bike btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peltsi View Post
    What cranks / BB you have in this ICT? And yes, it looks great 😄
    Fixation aluminum.
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    Fixation aluminum.
    thanks , never heard of them until now.

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    So I am going to pull the trigger and order an ice cream truck in the next few days. But the one last thing I can’t make up my mind on is size. I am 5’11’’ with average arm length and inseam for my height. The only one in the area I have been able to sit on is a large and it just felt too big. Even the geo numbers are big when compared to other manufactures sizing.

    Should I go large or med? The large I rode had the stock 80mm stem. I like to run short 50-60mm stems so that will help reduce the cockpit size a decent amount.

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    Fit is always personal but I'm an average 5'10/5'11 and felt pretty good on a medium on my test ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    So I am going to pull the trigger and order an ice cream truck in the next few days. But the one last thing I can’t make up my mind on is size. I am 5’11’’ with average arm length and inseam for my height. The only one in the area I have been able to sit on is a large and it just felt too big. Even the geo numbers are big when compared to other manufactures sizing.

    Should I go large or med? The large I rode had the stock 80mm stem. I like to run short 50-60mm stems so that will help reduce the cockpit size a decent amount.
    i went with a L and i'm 6'1...I think Large would be perfect for you
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    thanks, even tho the med is an 18" due to its long top tube i think i am going to go with that. Hell its got a longer top tube than some large's from other manufactures.

    On a side note any smaller riders out there? I am am looking for a advice for a female rider whos 5'5". Should she go S or XS?

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    5'11" here on a L. The medium was a little cramped feeling.

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    I'm 5'11'', 195lbs and the dealer at the local shop suggested a med for me. They don't actually stock Surly though so can't get in the saddle to test one out. Nice to come here for more feedback.

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    I'm also 5'11" and I have ordered a medium ICT. I should have it by next week - can't wait.

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    5'10" and initially I was on a L and I had the chance to swap to a M. Way better

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    I see a lot of mentions of "pulling the trigger" on an ICT. Here's a recent photo of my buddy's, dressed up for elk season.

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    Thanks for the input guys. I ended up calling Surly. Eric at Surly was super helpful. He basically said to by the top tube measurements because the frame has a low top tube and a large looks deceivingly small. He said deff go with a med so I did. Allready on its way from qbp to my lbs. Can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I see a lot of mentions of "pulling the trigger" on an ICT. Here's a recent photo of my buddy's, dressed up for elk season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    Thanks for the input guys. I ended up calling Surly. Eric at Surly was super helpful. He basically said to by the top tube measurements because the frame has a low top tube and a large looks deceivingly small. He said deff go with a med so I did. Allready on its way from qbp to my lbs. Can't wait.

    Good call. You are going to dig it. I am 6’3” 34” inseam and the large fits perfect for me. I think you are going to be very happy with the Med. Fingers crossed for fast shipping.

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    Yup, I have faith in the guys at Surly. Temps have dropped up here in Maine to where I don't feel safe on the icy trails on my 29er. I have a pair of the Dillinger 5's comming with it so I should be good to rip when the real winter weather hits. This is my first year with a fatbike. I am pumped to stay riding in the woods the entire year. Sure there are lighter and more fancy fatbikes but I think this ice cream truck will be a blast.

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    Has anyone tried if Sram X9 cranks (spiderles, bb30 direct mount chainring) would fit to ICT?

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    So there isn't a pf gxp bb that would fit to ict/sram x9 cranks?

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    Nope, it won't work. I think raceface makes some cranks if you want spiderless

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    Just a heads up for those of you building a frame. Shimano rear der. is the only option at this time using the 197 thru axle. Sram will work with the QR dropouts as I have done. Eric at Surly says a chip will be available next year to run Sram with the thru axle.
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    Loving My Ice Cream Truck...My first ride was Sunday morning and did a nice 25 mile spin with it. The bike is heavy and not the most agile bike I have ever ridden. The stability of the ride is unreal. It's like nothing i've ever ridden before (first fatty)! Took my ICT out for 10 miles yesterday and I can't wait to get back out there today. I live in desert area and I can now go places where my 29er struggled. I'm drinking the Fatty Koolaid now...happy trails everyone
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    It's about time you got that thing. Let's see some pics.

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    Sweeeeet!

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    Yeah man it loves the desert terrain and eats up the loose sand! I can only imagine how it handles the snow! Would really love to take it to the mountains when it starts to snow in my area.
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    Looking to build up a ICT Ops for my wife and going with Raceface Turbine cranks. Can someone tell me which BB to use? The ICT uses a PF 41 and I can't seem to find anything that will work on the RaceFace website. Going to go 2X up front.

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    Raceface calls it BB92. They make a good quality one. You'll need their ICT spacer kit too

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    So bummed. First decent snowfall last night. Tomorrow I have to return my ICT (only ridden in the driveway so far) to cover some of my wife's medical bills. Was so much looking forward to winter before this. **** my luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willapajames View Post
    So bummed. First decent snowfall last night. Tomorrow I have to return my ICT (only ridden in the driveway so far) to cover some of my wife's medical bills. Was so much looking forward to winter before this. **** my luck.
    That sucks, Dude. Hope your wife gets better.
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    Anyone in Colorado interested in an ICT should check this out: Surly Ice Cream Truck - Any Size

    Someone won an ICT but doesn't want it, so they'll order you any size you want for $2375. Pretty good deal!

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    Some pictures from a ride today!


















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    ^^^^ very awesome pics bro!
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    I was thinking of putting on Bluto on next spring...
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    Nice bike man, how's the clearance with the bud and bluto? Dose mud and dirt ever get picked up by the tires and get stuck as the tire passes through the fork? Is that the 100mm bluto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    Some pictures from a ride today!
    Is that picture rock? I was thinking about heading over there today too but went for a road bike ride instead. How's the trail conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkzhao View Post
    Is that picture rock? I was thinking about heading over there today too but went for a road bike ride instead. How's the trail conditions?
    Yep, good eye! Its probably 80% snow/slush, 15% mud, and 5% dry dirt. I wouldn't ride it on a skinny mtb right now, but it was awesome on the fatty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    Nice bike man, how's the clearance with the bud and bluto? Dose mud and dirt ever get picked up by the tires and get stuck as the tire passes through the fork? Is that the 100mm bluto?
    Its set up tubeless and I have no issues with clearance. I've run it between 4 and 10 psi and I it didn't get near the fork at any point in that range. Both tires shed mud and snow really well, and I haven't had any issues with mud buildup in the fork or around the bottom bracket. It is indeed 100mm, which seems like plenty combined with the Bud.

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    Is the ICT your only bike? Just added 29er FS bike to add to my quiver! Love all my bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    Nice looking bike.
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    Surly ICT thread-ict.jpg

    i've been riding Deity bars on a few bikes, love the geo but wasn't sure about the colour of these. First purple ano anything I've bought for my rigs. Haven't had a chance to hit the trails yet for real but it's been an awesome week of nightly back alley fatty drift sessions...I'm amazed again at how much gnarly traction you get outta Bud and Lou. I was freaking my daughter out as she watched me carve corners and all the mini berms I could find in the snow trying to see what it would take to lay it down, figuring in the snow it wasn't gonna hurt too much. The Truck rode out of every turn! Shazaam. Same damn thing on my Krampus in the dirt.

    We got about 18 inches of snow a week ago, and some sunshine the past few days...on went the Dillinger 5s.

    Love my Truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenmonkey View Post
    I was freaking my daughter out as she watched me carve corners and all the mini berms I could find in the snow trying to see what it would take to lay it down, figuring in the snow it wasn't gonna hurt too much.
    She probably just didn't want you to scratch up her bike.

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    Well, she's 4 so standover's gonna be an issue for a while at least...

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    Has anyone tried to drop some weight off their ICT other than the one with Fatback Uma 90 rims? I've got a Moonlander but, would like to update to a Bluto equipped bike and its either the blizzard or ICT. But I found the Blizzard harsh in the rear.


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    Pulling the trigger on my first fat bike tomorrow. I had been really debating on a 2014 pug ops vs an ICT, but after doing so much reading, I'm now leaning towards the ICT ops....I may be the only person who is not completely in love with the blue. I also figured the smaller nates would be better for year round riding, and maybe I'll pick up a clown shoe setup for winter later. Being 5'7", 29.5" inseam, does a small seem right? I've put this purchase off way too long, but I guess I can't develop a feel for what I want/need until I do it!

    I'm in southern NH and looking forward to getting out there! 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpm View Post
    Pulling the trigger on my first fat bike tomorrow. I had been really debating on a 2014 pug ops vs an ICT, but after doing so much reading, I'm now leaning towards the ICT ops....I may be the only person who is not completely in love with the blue. I also figured the smaller nates would be better for year round riding, and maybe I'll pick up a clown shoe setup for winter later. Being 5'7", 29.5" inseam, does a small seem right? I've put this purchase off way too long, but I guess I can't develop a feel for what I want/need until I do it!

    I'm in southern NH and looking forward to getting out there! 😃
    I'm also 5' 7" with 29.5" inseam. I have a long torso and arms. Went for the small Pug Ops and it fits great. I also have a small Troll, but its a little on the small side.
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    I am 511 and the med fits perfect. I think a small would fit you great. When you first look at the bike a small will seem too small but don't be fooled, the top tube is very long for the size.

    I live in southern Maine, if you find some good spots to ride down there let me know. Not many riding areas in southern Maine get beat in during the winter months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    I am 511 and the med fits perfect. I think a small would fit you great. When you first look at the bike a small will seem too small but don't be fooled, the top tube is very long for the size.

    I live in southern Maine, if you find some good spots to ride down there let me know. Not many riding areas in southern Maine get beat in during the winter months.
    where in southern maine are ya? i'm in southern maine and there's hundreds of miles of great stuff to ride all winter.

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    Trigger has been pulled, ICT ops on the way. I had the shop order a clown shoe wheel set and Dillinger 5 studded tires. Can't wait!!

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    ^ sounds great! You won't be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpm View Post
    Trigger has been pulled, ICT ops on the way. I had the shop order a clown shoe wheel set and Dillinger 5 studded tires. Can't wait!!
    Make sure you post some pics...the small frame looks so gnarly with the honkin' wheelset!

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    Here's my rig 😘

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    Nice bike

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    My ICT is becoming my go to bike for my weekly rides...Well at least I have two 29ers in my garage to get my lazy friends on the trails with me. Loving the FATTY experience
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    my Surly Ice Cream Truck

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    ^^^nice pics
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    New fatbike. First ever surly. Looking forward to be trying this out.

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    Got my ICT, and proceeded to rip a tooth off the big ring, gouging the chainstay, and put a small dent in the rear rim running too little air pressure. Live and learn.

    Still happy to have my first fat bike/Surly. Just a little sad.

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    Just picked up a ICT Ops this evening. I'll try to get some photos up soon. Took it for a little cruise around the streets. I was quite surprised at how well it rolled, given the size of the tires and knobs. Rolled right up an 8 stepper for fun.

    This is my first fat bike, so I'm pretty excited for it. It feels a lot different than my other bikes (nomad 27.5 and nimble 9 SS). Seems like it will be really versatile. Just looking at all the rack mounts made me want to go bikepacking...tonight.

    My only reservation might be the stem length. I have 50mm on all my other bikes, this has an 80mm. I'm 5'11" and it's a large. It's not so much that the reach feels long, it has more to do with the relationship of my hands and the front axle of the bike. It steers and wheelies awkwardly...maybe it's just me.

    How many of you are running 50mm of their ICTs? What do you think?

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    I'm your size, on a LG, and swapped the stem straight off for 60mm. 50mm was too kramp'd on my Krampus (see what I did there?!) so I didn't bother on the ICT. Feel right at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    Got my ICT, and proceeded to rip a tooth off the big ring, gouging the chainstay, and put a small dent in the rear rim running too little air pressure. Live and learn.

    Still happy to have my first fat bike/Surly. Just a little sad.
    Congratulations on your new rig! Don't mind about the little dents etc. As Surly says, they are Badge of Honors that shows you use your bike what it is meant to be used 😄

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    What size is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by short wheel View Post
    What size is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    Got my ICT, and proceeded to rip a tooth off the big ring, gouging the chainstay
    The Surly OD rings are purge junk, replace them now and be happy. I also found the 36 to be a bit on the large side, replaced it with a 34t Specialites TA ring, which looks way better, is 1,000,000 times harder wearing and is a more usable ratio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    The Surly OD rings are purge junk, replace them now and be happy. I also found the 36 to be a bit on the large side, replaced it with a 34t Specialites TA ring, which looks way better, is 1,000,000 times harder wearing and is a more usable ratio.
    I replaced my36 with a Surly 33 tooth. Found the same thing. Also just found a tooth missing on it after 10 months of use.
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    Loving my ICT more and more every ride. It makes such a great all around bike and the geometry is awesome. Did some small customization to it so far to make it stand out a little bit. Now if it would only SNOW!!! All were getting over Christmas is rain rain rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appletrollet View Post
    New fatbike. First ever surly. Looking forward to be trying this out.

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    Yes, yours.
    I'm 173 cm (5 feet 8 7/64 inches) still thinking about medium and small.
    I tried the M once, felt a little long.
    How tall are you?
    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by short wheel View Post
    Yes, yours.
    I'm 173 cm (5 feet 8 7/64 inches) still thinking about medium and small.
    I tried the M once, felt a little long.
    How tall are you?
    Thx
    i΄m 173cm

    This frame is a perfect fit for me. I have had 2 fatbikes prior to this one, both medium and both too big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamkob32 View Post
    Loving my ICT more and more every ride. It makes such a great all around bike and the geometry is awesome. Did some small customization to it so far to make it stand out a little bit. Now if it would only SNOW!!! All were getting over Christmas is rain rain rain.

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    Nice work Adam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appletrollet View Post
    New fatbike. First ever surly. Looking forward to be trying this out.

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    Where did that rear fender come from? I love it not being huge like so many are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamkob32 View Post
    Loving my ICT more and more every ride. It makes such a great all around bike and the geometry is awesome. Did some small customization to it so far to make it stand out a little bit. Now if it would only SNOW!!! All were getting over Christmas is rain rain rain.

    12/10/14 Roaring CreekCN1515 by adamkob, on Flickr

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    I like this a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Where did that rear fender come from? I love it not being huge like so many are.
    it's a mucky nutz fender. It broke on my first ride

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    My ice cream truck has a nasty creak when standing and putting the power down. Usually one "creak" when a pedal is at the 6 and 12 o'clock position and I am putting the max power of each stroke through the pedals. I have torn it down and greased every interface other than pulling out the press fit bb. Anyone have similar problems or care to chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceldama View Post
    Test-rode an ICT along side a Rocky Mountain Blizzard for comparison. Here are my impressions (from riding around the street...)

    -The ICT has an amazing presence. Between the tires/rims and the amazing paint it just stands out compared to the stealthy all-black blizzard. If you want attention the ICT is for you.

    -ICT feels slacker/more stable than the Blizzard even though they share the same listed head tube angle. It could be due to the Blizzard's sag setting on the Bluto but it made the Blizzard feel more like an XC bike. Also the Blizzard felt a bit more compact in the cockpit area.

    -The ICT and the Blizzard feel about the same weight when you pick them up but the Blizzard feels a little quicker when riding. Probably down to the lighter wheels/tire combo.

    -Both bikes have great brakes.

    Both bikes being the same price makes for a hard decision. If you've got to have a Bluto the Blizzard is an excellent value proposition. The ICT definitely has an x-factor about it, though. Basically, I've got a horrible case of analysis paralysis and can't pull the trigger on anything.
    I guess it's time for The Mayor then.

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