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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    My ice cream truck has a nasty creak when standing and putting the power down. Usually one "creak" when a pedal is at the 6 and 12 o'clock position and I am putting the max power of each stroke through the pedals. I have torn it down and greased every interface other than pulling out the press fit bb. Anyone have similar problems or care to chime in.
    did you check/tighten your rear qr/thru axle? front? chainring bolts greased/tightened?

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    I've had my ICT for a few weeks now but have only had 3 good rides on it. The weather has been unseasonably wet (getting colder so hopefully the trails will freeze).

    Being 5' 7" (short inseam, long torso) I debated on whether or not to get a size Small or Medium as well. Almost pulled the trigger on a Medium after having ridden one. Being between sizes I usually go with the general rule of thumb of going to the next size larger.
    However, after over-analyzing the numbers of both sizes, the size Small matched up almost identical to my 17" Turner 5 Spot.

    Got the Small and I'm glad I did. I swapped out the tiny 50mm stem and the 11 swept back Salsa Salt Flat 2 bar for a 100mm stem and riser bar with a 6 sweep (anybody need a brand new Salsa bar?) and the bike feels great!

    Here's a pic from from one of the rides (I posted it on in the general fat bike riding thread as well).

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    Picked up an ICT yesterday, was getting a little restless waiting for the snow to melt here in the front range!
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    Quote Originally Posted by omoore61 View Post
    Picked up an ICT yesterday, was getting a little restless waiting for the snow to melt here in the front range!
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    You need some snowshoes to pack down that snow.

    Enjoy the new bike.
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    I wanted to experiment with smaller wheel set for my ICT! New to Fat Biking so little curious what 3.8's would feel like on my dry desert terrain!
    SWING YOUR LEG OVER IT AND PEDAL:cool:

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    So I ordered a replacement 36t Surly ring, and just thought I'd take it easy until Wolf Tooth releases their new chainrings. Second ride out, I nailed a rock and lost a tooth off the new $65 chainring.

    I'm just gonna run it, and shift super carefully until I can replace it with the WT ring.

    The bike is fun, but the crank/chainring situation is frustrating.

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    Blackspire makes rings that will fit the OD cranks as well. Replaced the 36t Surly with a 34t. Works great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    So I ordered a replacement 36t Surly ring, and just thought I'd take it easy until Wolf Tooth releases their new chainrings. Second ride out, I nailed a rock and lost a tooth off the new $65 chainring.

    I'm just gonna run it, and shift super carefully until I can replace it with the WT ring.

    The bike is fun, but the crank/chainring situation is frustrating.
    There's a thread on the forum about using a 94 bcd raceface bash ring on the Surly OD crank. I made one fit my Pug ops. You can pick up the bash guard for pretty cheap on close-out as no one wants them. Link to thread below.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/if-...l#post11553915

    I used a chainring bolt set from my SLX 665 double and bash (they are much longer than standard) and some 2mm thick chainring spacers purchased from ebay. Works well.

    EDIT: forgot to add that you need a 34t chainring. I used a middleburn hard anodized one.
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    Surly ICT thread

    Since the OD 36 is positioned as an outer ring, is it the BS 5 bolt middle ring that you refer. Thanks


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    Thanks folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omoore61 View Post
    Picked up an ICT yesterday, was getting a little restless waiting for the snow to melt here in the front range!
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    It is a medium. The bike is now set up tubeless with ghetto 1x10(removed fd and large chainring), also added carbon bars and a shorter stem. Fun bike.

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    just ordered a small. can't wait to ride this puppy.

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    You will love it!

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    First commute on my ICT Ops yesterday. Lucky me, we got a few inches of fresh powder during the day.

    The ride in against 20+mph wind had me questioning the wisdom of the whole thing, but riding back home over and through the drifts erased all doubts.

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    ^^Awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by omoore61 View Post
    It is a medium. The bike is now set up tubeless with ghetto 1x10(removed fd and large chainring), also added carbon bars and a shorter stem. Fun bike.
    what does it weigh in at with this config? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadedro View Post
    what does it weigh in at with this config? thanks
    No idea, i'm not big on weighing my bikes! The weight difference is noticeable though.

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    Here's mine ICT

    I've had this since November and I'm loving it
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    Very nice!
    Could you tell me more about the frame size, your size and what modifications you did?
    Thanks.
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    Here's mine ICT

    I've had this since November and I'm loving it

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    Looks like a medium.

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    Thanks I'am 5' 10" and I did go with medium. I build it from the frameset so there is not so many original parts.
    Wheelset is white CS with 907/Salsa hubs (taken from my old 190mm 9zero7) Bud/Lou tubeless
    RF Turbine cranks with 32T NW
    XT shifter and rear derailleur
    Hope Tech3 E4 brakes with bairded hose
    Syncros seatpost, RF Chester 50mm stem and Salsa Rustler carbon bar.
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    Does anyone know what BB I need to run a Race Face Cinch crankset on the ICT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinslack View Post
    Does anyone know what BB I need to run a Race Face Cinch crankset on the ICT?
    I think I read that you can do it with a couple extra spacers. Not sure where in here that I read it but someone did do that setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinslack View Post
    Does anyone know what BB I need to run a Race Face Cinch crankset on the ICT?
    Found the thread I was looking for. Hope this helps.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/sur...ld-938192.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinslack View Post
    Does anyone know what BB I need to run a Race Face Cinch crankset on the ICT?
    You can use any BB92 bottom bracket. You will not be able to find one with the correct length plastic sleeve that goes inside the shell so any of them work. You will also need to have your LBS order you a spacer kit for the 190mm spindle. I believe the part number is F10014 from race face. You will not be able to use a 170mm spindle. We tried it and it's way too short to clear the chain stays.

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    Sweet. I already have a 190mm cinch crankset and I saw on universal cycles website that race face is about to release a sleeve to fit an ICT. Just wanted to know about which cups I needed.

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    Just bought my second ict. Ops this time. Love the bike.

    Installed surly black floyd tires. Don't mind the angle on the handlebar it's fixed now.













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    Maiden voyage of the ICT. Went to the park where trails were beautiful. Had a great time on the single track. Handles like a dream. So precise at slow speeds. You could really pick your path easily and stay on track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    Maiden voyage of the ICT. Went to the park where trails were beautiful. Had a great time on the single track. Handles like a dream. So precise at slow speeds. You could really pick your path easily and stay on track.
    You ordert a small -right? How tall are you, I'm still trying to find the right size - it's still a theoretical question because of budget...
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by short wheel View Post
    You ordert a small -right? How tall are you, I'm still trying to find the right size - it's still a theoretical question because of budget...
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    Yes, I went with the small. Perfect size for me. 5'8.5". I wouldn't want the TT any longer or closer to my crotch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    Maiden voyage of the ICT. Went to the park where trails were beautiful. Had a great time on the single track. Handles like a dream. So precise at slow speeds. You could really pick your path easily and stay on track.
    Is that the Saratoga State Park?

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    Yes it is. The trails are great right now.

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    Surly ICT thread

    Do all the small frames have the "plate" behind the seatpost tube?

    Feel like I've seen some with and some without.


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    Quote Originally Posted by racefit View Post
    Do all the small frames have the "plate" behind the seatpost tube?

    Feel like I've seen some with and some without.


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    There is a plate behind the seat tube on my small.

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    I had so much fun yesterday. Love the ICT, but can't wait to ride The Mayor again too
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    After my ride today

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    the low bars make it look like a cafe racer

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    New to the family, stock is nice but I cant wait to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldprobmx View Post
    New to the family, stock is nice but I cant wait to upgrade.
    What are you looking to change. I know I want carbon bars and forks.

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    Ordered anno blue bars, pedals, water bottle cage, already, need quick release seat clamp and definetly a Bluto.

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    ICT tested in Rovaniemi 150

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    A couple of weeks ago I participated in the Rovaniemi 150 in Finland. Despite the relatively warm circumstances (around freezing point) I had a blast with the ICT fully loaded. Bike did everything right. Had replaced the stock wheels with XMIPlay carbon rims & Hope Fatsno hubs, running Bud & Lou tubeless. Even though I lost air from the rear if I went below 5 PSI (so I sticked to 5) I was truly amazed at what I could ride with it given my size (6ft7" & 254 lbs + bike & gear weighing in at around 77 lbs). Since it was my first ever snow race I made all the mistakes in the book, especially with regards to carrying too much gear. Nevertheless I'm hooked to these events from now on. Will prepare for either the Roavve 300 (also in Finland) or one of the (for us Dutchies) endless list of fatbike events in the US. Love it!

    Right now it's sunshine all over here today:
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    Surly ICT thread

    Nice looking bike. You appear to have a third water bottle mount under the DT.


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    Well spotted. Needed a place for my fuel bottle and this seemed the best option to me. So drilled some extra holes

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    Surly ICT thread

    Good idea, I think I'll do the same


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldprobmx View Post
    Awesome. I just built one yesterday. I have to work tonight and wasn't going to go out and try it today, but you just inspired me. I'll have to wait for the fam. to get home with the camera though.

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    Im really close on pulling the trigger on an ICT. It will be the first "mountain bike" i own, it will accompany a Track bike and a CX. The Bikeshop is knocking a substantial amount off the original price. Thinking about upgrades already: Silver Seatpost, Stem & Bars, and going 1x10 (or 1x11). Have riders here upgraded the cassette with an E*thirteen or Wolf tooth 42 Cog? I read on their websites that you need a different cassette or be willing to cut some rivets in the 17t cog. For Sizing: im 192 cm (6'3) and im (probably) getting a large.

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    That's correct. You'll need xt-cassette to replace the original slx-cassette. And yes, definitely a large one for you or maybe even XL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OocH View Post
    Im really close on pulling the trigger on an ICT. It will be the first "mountain bike" i own, it will accompany a Track bike and a CX. The Bikeshop is knocking a substantial amount off the original price. Thinking about upgrades already: Silver Seatpost, Stem & Bars, and going 1x10 (or 1x11). Have riders here upgraded the cassette with an E*thirteen or Wolf tooth 42 Cog? I read on their websites that you need a different cassette or be willing to cut some rivets in the 17t cog. For Sizing: im 192 cm (6'3) and im (probably) getting a large.
    I am running the E13 ex cog. It is awesome and works flawlessly. You should need to get a different cassette than what comes on the bike. It should come apart just fine to use the 42t cog. Also, I would suggest maybe you look into getting an XL. I'm 5'10" and the large feels real nice. I'm guessing it might be on the small side for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikecycology View Post
    I am running the E13 ex cog. It is awesome and works flawlessly. You should need to get a different cassette than what comes on the bike. It should come apart just fine to use the 42t cog. Also, I would suggest maybe you look into getting an XL. I'm 5'10" and the large feels real nice. I'm guessing it might be on the small side for you.
    I'm 6'7" and the XXL is nice. If I were 6'3" I'd go with the XL.

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    Made some upgrades, Bluto fork 100mm, FlyEye Pedals and bars, old school Ringle water bottle cage. Cant wait for the trails to dry up.


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    I'm riding a small and @ 5'8.5". Great bike.

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    im 5'10, 33" inseam and riding a med, but I bought the ICT because this bike is going to ride downhill at Highland and Mt Creek this year so I am looking for air time and agility,

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    Little mod since last photo
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    Wheelset for summer, i9 hubs with Jackalopes and 4.8 Jumbo Jims
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    Surly ICT thread-imageuploadedbytapatalk1426816191.266011.jpg
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    Haven't been able to get out much lately, but I'm really enjoying my Surly when I do. Just a couple touches to make it all mine.


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    Anyone having problems with frame flex? My chainring seems to be grinding the frame under load. Bikes only been out for a handful of rides. Felt funny today, but I didnt expect to find this when I flipped it over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkately View Post
    Anyone having problems with frame flex? My chainring seems to be grinding the frame under load. Bikes only been out for a handful of rides. Felt funny today, but I didnt expect to find this when I flipped it over.


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    I hadn't noticed it, but just went to have a look, and sure enough I've got a black spot where the paint's worn away in the same area. I've been riding mine all winter and hadn't been aware of any rubbing there. Ahh well; not too fussed!

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    I dropped a chain in there on the first ride and did that. No room with that 36.

    I ended up taking the big run off after wrecking 2 of them (I assume some fault), and running a steel 26T on the inner mount. Coated the scratches with nail polish and riding on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuru nuru View Post
    I hadn't noticed it, but just went to have a look, and sure enough I've got a black spot where the paint's worn away in the same area. I've been riding mine all winter and hadn't been aware of any rubbing there. Ahh well; not too fussed!
    Looks like I've got it too!

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    My new baby Surly ICT thread-qmnofaj.jpg
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    I've picked up my ICT this morning. An unbelievable feeling riding this thing. You really need to move your whole body to get this thing forward
    I Did notice a weird rattle when im going over 16mph or more.
    It's the sound of rings being loose, but i haven't found out where it comes from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuru nuru View Post
    I hadn't noticed it, but just went to have a look, and sure enough I've got a black spot where the paint's worn away in the same area. I've been riding mine all winter and hadn't been aware of any rubbing there. Ahh well; not too fussed!
    I had some pretty nasty chainsuck in there one time as well. Had to really pull the chain out and took a bunch of paint and some of the black coating off as well. When I got home I put some automotive touchup paint over the exposed metal, after that dried I put some gorilla tape over it.

    Turns out I didn't have the clutch set to "ON" on the rear derailleur. Ever since I had it "ON" haven't had an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuru nuru View Post
    I hadn't noticed it, but just went to have a look, and sure enough I've got a black spot where the paint's worn away in the same area. I've been riding mine all winter and hadn't been aware of any rubbing there. Ahh well; not too fussed!
    I'll check mine. Will post later.

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    Loving my ICT so far. The Bud/Lou combo gives so much confidence out on the trails (i'm a total mtb newbie). Should have done a bit more research though, my plan to go 1x11 with SRAM is nearly impossible at the moment. Can't find any MDS dropouts for QR here in Europe, this goes for the QR and its endcaps for the rear hub as well. Seems that you can upgrade from quick release to through axle, but the other way around it's not.
    I'm not a fan of Shimano, the fact that the free hub body has already worn in so far that i can hardly remove the middle cogs. Found this out while removing my dork disk. As i left home this morning my chain broke as well. (FYI: i've only ridden about 70 miles).
    This doesn't help my opinion

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    Well the chain is KMC...


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    Quote Originally Posted by OocH View Post
    Loving my ICT so far. The Bud/Lou combo gives so much confidence out on the trails (i'm a total mtb newbie). Should have done a bit more research though, my plan to go 1x11 with SRAM is nearly impossible at the moment. Can't find any MDS dropouts for QR here in Europe, this goes for the QR and its endcaps for the rear hub as well. Seems that you can upgrade from quick release to through axle, but the other way around it's not.
    I'm not a fan of Shimano, the fact that the free hub body has already worn in so far that i can hardly remove the middle cogs. Found this out while removing my dork disk. As i left home this morning my chain broke as well. (FYI: i've only ridden about 70 miles).
    This doesn't help my opinion
    If you run the thru axle Shimano is your only choice. I have twisters on mine but am forced to run 190 qr. Sram chip coming soon according to Eric at Surly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OocH View Post
    Can't find any MDS dropouts for QR here in Europe, this goes for the QR and its endcaps for the rear hub as well. Seems that you can upgrade from quick release to through axle, but the other way around it's not.
    My understanding is you are wanting to get a QR skewer for the rear? Looks like DT Swiss is working on a 12/197mm rear hub (release date TA), which would leave me to believe that they would come out with a skewer for that as well.
    I've been looking for one as well and hoping that DT will come out with one soon.

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    Surly ICT thread

    Another issue when running a qr if shorter chainstays are your thing, is they move your CS length to almost 18.5, in comparison to 17.6 thru axle. My Hope coverts to whichever
    But that could be a good thing considering the new rubber that appears to be on the horizon
    So your issue is the Salsa hub will not accept a qr? I'd say give Mike C a holler


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    After some more searching have found the Chips at universal cycles
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    Surly mentions them in a pdf on their website as well. Thanks for your advice guys! Now it's just the wait, in the mean time ill save up for the upgrade, as the XD driver isn't exactly a bargain.

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    Just under 30lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by OocH View Post
    ...
    I'm not a fan of Shimano, the fact that the free hub body has already worn in so far that i can hardly remove the middle cogs. Found this out while removing my dork disk.
    Had a similar issue when I went to convert to a Wolftooth 1x10 setup. My free hub body was badly notched from the stock installation of the cassette and it was seized. I ended up replacing that crappy aluminum shell with a steel x9 body. It is compatible with the stock Salsa hubs and a HUGE improvement.

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    black wheels makes the bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaMMu76 View Post
    Just under 30lbs
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    JaMMu, I forgot to ask you: what beautiful rims are you sporting here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldprobmx View Post
    black wheels makes the bike
    So true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaley View Post
    JaMMu, I forgot to ask you: what beautiful rims are you sporting here?
    Rims are MCarbon(Nextie) Snow Dragon 80mm with Industry9 hubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaMMu76 View Post
    Rims are MCarbon(Nextie) Snow Dragon 80mm with Industry9 hubs
    Many thanks! They look amazing!

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    To anyone running a 42 tooth One Up on their ICT, Did you have to do anything to the SLX derailleur to get it to shift?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    To anyone running a 42 tooth One Up on their ICT, Did you have to do anything to the SLX derailleur to get it to shift?
    I am running a Wolftooth GC 42 cog on my ICT so the setup will be basically identical. You will need a longer B-screw (M4 x 25 socket head cap screw does the trick), which can be picked up at any local hardware store. Wolftooth has a good writeup on their webpage as to how to do it all.

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    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaley View Post
    I am running a Wolftooth GC 42 cog on my ICT so the setup will be basically identical. You will need a longer B-screw (M4 x 25 socket head cap screw does the trick), which can be picked up at any local hardware store. Wolftooth has a good writeup on their webpage as to how to do it all.

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    Nice setup. Are you running a 1X10 and if so. What crank set and chainring did you go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    Nice setup. Are you running a 1X10 and if so. What crank set and chainring did you go with?
    Thanks! I am running a 1x10 setup as 30/11-42. Details: Surly OD cranks and Wolftooth Components 94 BCD 30T Drop-Stop chainring and the rear is the Wolftooth Components GC 42T for my Shimano SLX Cassette and a Wolftooth 16T cog (in lieu of the 15 / 17 having to be pulled).

    I ran outside to get a better pic so you can see the chainline / setup.

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    You shed a lot of weight with this wheel set up? very awesome
    SWING YOUR LEG OVER IT AND PEDAL:cool:

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    the CS took a beating today. a branch ripped out a spoke. photos to come

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    anyone got the spoke size handy?

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    got this from the surly site

    Spokes
    DT Swiss Comp, 14g/15g Black

    shouldn't be difficult to get one

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    From an email with Surly:

    "For the blue ICT, 263 drive 263 non drive (the short spokes are on the disc side, yes indeed)

    Front - 262 d/nd"

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    Ordered my Bluto today! Can't wait 😎

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    Let me ask all you ICT people something.
    Do you feel the weight of the ICT? I know it's heavy - but do you feel it when riding?
    I was considering one for my wife, but seems heavy and overpriced given what's out there now. There's just something I like about it though.

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    When I first bought my ICT I bought it because it just looked so cool and really did very little research, since I was only thinking about this bike for casual, fun activities. But since falling in love with the fat thing, I have been using the ICT as part of training and even did a race with it. Coming into the race I was really worried about weight and tire size, ended up I won the race taking down a bunch of full carbon fats. Guess the weight didnt slow me down to much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldprobmx View Post
    When I first bought my ICT I bought it because it just looked so cool and really did very little research, since I was only thinking about this bike for casual, fun activities. But since falling in love with the fat thing, I have been using the ICT as part of training and even did a race with it. Coming into the race I was really worried about weight and tire size, ended up I won the race taking down a bunch of full carbon fats. Guess the weight didnt slow me down to much.
    The ICT bombs the downhills!!! There is something to be said about a low center of gravity and some weight down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Let me ask all you ICT people something.
    Do you feel the weight of the ICT? I know it's heavy - but do you feel it when riding?
    I was considering one for my wife, but seems heavy and overpriced given what's out there now. There's just something I like about it though.
    If you think she will be just as passionate about it I would buy one for her...My wife casual rider and thinking of buying her regular Pugs for her or a framed alaskan. Little by little my ICT is getting most of my ride time. I still swing my leg over my Remedy 29er but always wanting more truck fun. Bluto my first upgrade and might mess with the wheels down the road.
    SWING YOUR LEG OVER IT AND PEDAL:cool:

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    Oh and yes it feels heavy but you do get use to it! Traction and stability make up big time for weight IMO. happy trails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan1113 View Post
    Oh and yes it feels heavy but you do get use to it! Traction and stability make up big time for weight IMO. happy trails
    agreed. i've said that the only thing holding you back on a climb is horsepower. it'll go up anything if you got the gumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Let me ask all you ICT people something.
    Do you feel the weight of the ICT? I know it's heavy - but do you feel it when riding?
    I was considering one for my wife, but seems heavy and overpriced given what's out there now. There's just something I like about it though.
    Can't believe how nimble the bike feels...despite the additional weight it rides so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    To anyone running a 42 tooth One Up on their ICT, Did you have to do anything to the SLX derailleur to get it to shift?
    I was able to run the standard b tension screw and it still had a bit of adjustment left. The shift was a bit slow but worked. That said I've just fitted a one up Rad cage and it's transformed the shifting - you'd never know you had the supersize back sprok.

    Re ICT weights - mines down to 32lbs thanks to Schwalbe JJ's but when I ride it the weight difference between them and Bud and Lou isn't noticeable until you have to carry the barstard. I've done 2 160 mile bike packing trips over the last two weekends with mucho hike a bike and I manged with an acceptable amount of huffing, puffing and swearing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    agreed. i've said that the only thing holding you back on a climb is horsepower. it'll go up anything if you got the gumption.
    That goes without saying, the point though is that she doesn't have the horsepower. She's not a strong rider. I know I could go up anything with it, but it's her that I'm wondering about.

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    What size jumbo jims you put on? What's your wheel set up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Let me ask all you ICT people something.
    Do you feel the weight of the ICT? I know it's heavy - but do you feel it when riding?
    I was considering one for my wife, but seems heavy and overpriced given what's out there now. There's just something I like about it though.
    A buddy of mine just sold his wife's fat bike - a steel one, I forget the brand - because it was so heavy and bogged down on one wet day she hated the ride SO MUCH she refused to ever ride it again.

    Be careful with heavy bikes and people who are much smaller and less powerful. If I ever got a SO into fatbiking she'd get the carbon rims before I would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    That goes without saying, the point though is that she doesn't have the horsepower. She's not a strong rider. I know I could go up anything with it, but it's her that I'm wondering about.
    My ten year old son rode a carbon Beargrease at a demo day and he climbed stuff he struggled with on his regular mtb. Might be worth a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    My ten year old son rode a carbon Beargrease at a demo day and he climbed stuff he struggled with on his regular mtb. Might be worth a look.
    One of the reasons I was really glads to get my wife an ex.small 9:ZERO:7. That hydroformed 7000 series aluminum is super light. And the standover is perfect for her. She loves her new bike.
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    How tall is she? What size frame? I was considering the 907 for my wife as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan1113 View Post
    What size jumbo jims you put on? What's your wheel set up?
    4.8's - its all we can get our hands on in the UK - on holy rolling darryls . They are good and so far pretty rock proof but not blackthorn proof....

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee View Post
    A buddy of mine just sold his wife's fat bike - a steel one, I forget the brand - because it was so heavy and bogged down on one wet day she hated the ride SO MUCH she refused to ever ride it again.

    Be careful with heavy bikes and people who are much smaller and less powerful. If I ever got a SO into fatbiking she'd get the carbon rims before I would.
    Interesting, as my wife had the opposite experience. I would also say that she is not the strongest or fastest rider, and in fact a "regular" mountain bike (29er) made her feel incredibly uncomfortable and lacking confidence on the trails and so she would never want to ride. It wasn't until she swung a leg over my ICT that I saw that characteristic look that everyone gets when they first ride one and I knew she was hooked. Now she rides a Salsa Mukluk (32 lbs) and is clearing all sorts of terrain she never would have even attempted before.

    In regard to Gambit21's original question, my ICT is 33 lbs tubeless but otherwise stock. Doing the tubeless conversion DEFINITELY changed the feel of the ride since the real (or perceived) rolling resistance was greatly lessened. As for the price and something to like about it, I can honestly say that it continues to surprise me with how good it is at everything. Unlike the Pugsley which felt like a jack of all trades master of none, the ICT just feels good all day and no matter what I'm riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    How tall is she? What size frame? I was considering the 907 for my wife as well.
    4'11" with the EX.Small 9:ZERO:7 Aluminum. She loves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaley View Post
    Interesting, as my wife had the opposite experience. I would also say that she is not the strongest or fastest rider, and in fact a "regular" mountain bike (29er) made her feel incredibly uncomfortable and lacking confidence on the trails and so she would never want to ride. It wasn't until she swung a leg over my ICT that I saw that characteristic look that everyone gets when they first ride one and I knew she was hooked. Now she rides a Salsa Mukluk (32 lbs) and is clearing all sorts of terrain she never would have even attempted before. .
    My gf had the same experience.


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    Anyone else dealing with chain suck issues? Had it adjusted twice already and still acting up! First bike I've owned to start digging into frame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan1113 View Post
    Anyone else dealing with chain suck issues? Had it adjusted twice already and still acting up! First bike I've owned to start digging into frame!
    Guessing you've already checked for a bent derailleur hanger, but do you also have a large rear cog (like a 42T) that required an extreme B-screw adjustment? Either could make it more difficult to adjust.

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    Guys,

    I've posted this elsewhere but got pointed to this forum.

    I'm looking for a side photo of a Surly Ice Cream Truck Size M(18). Without specifying size, Surly chose to advertise the size S(16) on their webpage. The sizeI just received L(20) has radically different toptube geometry than what was pictured. I'm wondering what's in between. Thanks for your help.

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    I just ordered a 29+ wheelset with Scraper rims for the ICT... I'm excited! I'll post some impressions when I get a chance to ride. If it ever stops raining in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnarracci View Post
    Guys...I'm looking for a side photo of a Surly Ice Cream Truck Size M(18).
    Tada. Le medium.

    EDIT: images were poached from one of the better fat bike reviews I've read to date, replete with some seriously candy photos.
    Six Months with the Surly Ice Cream Truck: A Three-Season Review ? Morgan Taylor - The Radavist
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    Quote Originally Posted by rnarracci View Post
    Guys,

    I've posted this elsewhere but got pointed to this forum.

    I'm looking for a side photo of a Surly Ice Cream Truck Size M(18). Without specifying size, Surly chose to advertise the size S(16) on their webpage. The sizeI just received L(20) has radically different toptube geometry than what was pictured. I'm wondering what's in between. Thanks for your help.
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    Surly Ice Cream Truck Size M(18)

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    Thanks!

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    Thank you bro!

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    A couple questions: why did they go with 190mm rear spacing, do you really need it to clear the chain, 170mm isn't enough? It would seem to really reduce your hub options. Also, what about that 132mm BB? Doesn't that make for a huge Q factor?
    All I am saying is give pizza chants

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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    I just ordered a 29+ wheelset with Scraper rims for the ICT... I'm excited! I'll post some impressions when I get a chance to ride. If it ever stops raining in Colorado.
    Can you please put a photo!
    Thanks

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    Anyone using 29+ on a ICT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_BC View Post
    A couple questions: why did they go with 190mm rear spacing, do you really need it to clear the chain, 170mm isn't enough? It would seem to really reduce your hub options. Also, what about that 132mm BB? Doesn't that make for a huge Q factor?
    You need 190/197mm rear and 132mm BB to ensure you get no chain-rub if running a double crankset with a >4.5" tyre. Plenty of hub choices available. I had my custom frame built with widest BB to give me 5" tire clearance - even with my short stature I've had no problems adjusting to the wide Q-factor and can swap back to regular width BBs without issue - TBH this appears to be a problem dreamt-up by those who've never ridden a fatbike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by short wheel View Post
    Can you please put a photo!
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    I will as soon as I get the wheels. Probably the end of this week or early next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by short wheel View Post
    Anyone using 29+ on a ICT?
    I am. It is fun set up plus as well as fat although I find that the Bud & Lou would stick like glue. You have to be a little more cautious with the Knard or Chronicle. P.S. I put an ECR for on the front for the summer because I wanted to run a dynohub for bikepacking.Surly ICT thread-img_5636.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikecycology View Post
    I am. It is fun set up plus as well as fat although I find that the Bud & Lou would stick like glue. You have to be a little more cautious with the Knard or Chronicle. P.S. I put an ECR for on the front for the summer because I wanted to run a dynohub for bikepacking.Click image for larger version. 

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    Interesting. Is the ECR fork similar dimensions compared to ICT?

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    Interesting. Is the ECR fork similar dimensions compared to ICT?
    Not exactly. The axle to crown on the ECR fork is 19mm (3/4") lower so it does drop the front a little. In turn that lowers the BB slightly. I can't say that I find it a bad thing. Pretty stable in both set ups.

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    Got a profile shot for sh#ts n gigs?
    Looks like a bomber set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikecycology View Post
    Not exactly. The axle to crown on the ECR fork is 19mm (3/4") lower so it does drop the front a little. In turn that lowers the BB slightly. I can't say that I find it a bad thing. Pretty stable in both set ups.
    Gotcha. Just curious why you didn't use a Krampus fork which should be much closer in length. I thought they came in 9mm QR and had the fork mounts as well.

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    If you are using fenders, what are they and how about some pictures?

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    I have bought a Mucky Nutz Fat Face fender yesterday for the front, to avoid being hit by mud when the tires start shedding it. My back is always surprisingly clean I haven't had time to install it yet, but its super easy: a small roll of Velcro tape is included so it's easily removable as well. i'll post a picture when i've had the time to install it.

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    Bryan, It has happened several times. I emailed Surly (I think the name was derby...its on the site) and heard back from Eric Sovern. He sent a new Dimension chainring.

    One new instance of suck today after several weeks on the new ring but probably because I was cross-chaining (?). (Intimidating trail had me off guard )

    If you have a clutch on your resr derailleur (as on stock ICTs, it's a grey plastic switch) to stiffen the action, You may want to move it to the ON position. It makes for better shifting as far as I can tell, by keeping tension on the chain.

    Lastly, I wrapped some gaffer's tape (like duct tape but black and cloth instead of plastic) around the vulnerable part of the chainstay (and also on the BB inside of the inner chainring because the chain has fallen off the that ring, but that's likely got a different cause). The tape makes rescuing the chain from the ring and chainstay smoother and destructive to the paint.

    I hope that helps.

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    If you are using fenders, what are they and how about some pictures?
    Sorry no pics, and they're definitely not full coverage, but I've been running Crud Catchers since swearing off the PDW Mud Shovels after the last time I had to ride back and find them on the trail. I modded the PDW snaps to stay put finally, but this was after the post mount broke twice, and the downtube straps snapped fairly early on.

    Crud Catchers mount up rock solid and stay put, go on and off easy enough with a 5mm, and are indestructible as far as I can tell. I've beat the crap outta mine. Saw Coastkid running them way back and finally gave them a try last year. Cheap and awesome.

    The SKS product looks solid but a fair bit pricier, and to me, a bit over-designed. Looking at them, I'm a bit suspect of their rear post mount but that's pure conjecture.

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    Set up my 29+ wheelset last night! Haven't had a chance to ride any trail with it, but so far it feels awesome. Its like a whole new bike.

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    The tires are bigger than the look on my frame. Its an XXL frame and I'm 6'7".

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    Another ICT unleashed.

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    Chosen hubs, Sun Ringle Mulefut rims, Vee H-Billie tires - tubeless

    Bought the like new frame set used for $650 (frame, fork, headset, crank, brake mounts & seat clamp). Everything else came off my Boris except the hubs. The Moto was a good bike but I wanted something with more traditional trail bike geometry. Surly nailed it with the ICT.

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    Took my new ICT on a very technical ride this morning. As I had hoped the bike was perfect for this type of ride. The shortish stays, low bb and slack head angle really helped when I had to lift the front end up & over an obstacle. I dropped the pressures a couple psi to help smooth out the ride and get grip on the mossy rocks.

    When the trail smoothed out & I could get some speed the bike handled great & carved corners. Very happy with it so far.

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    Went on a ride with the 29+ wheelset today at Betasso near Boulder. It isn't the most technical trail, but its got a lot of sandy fast turns. The bike felt great! I had almost as much grip as with the Bud/Lou, but it felt so much easier to pedal. I was climbing in my big chainring a lot of the time! I know its a relative thing, since people complained about even standard 29ers when they came out, but compared to the Bud/Lou setup its super fast.

    Even though the outer diameter of the tires is pretty much the same the 29+ feel bigger for some reason. It is probably just an optical illusion.

    As far as "suspension" goes, the 29+ definitely feels more like a hardtail than with 4.8" rubber. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the situation. It still absorbs a lot of chatter, but you can definitely feel baseball sized rocks that you wouldn't really notice on the Lou. On the other hand, you feel more connected to the terrain. Less floating over everything. Picking a line becomes more important, but also more possible without the absurd width of the 4.8" tires.

    All in all, I'm very happy. I got this wheelset with bikepacking in mind. I am planning on doing the Colorado Trail in July, and didn't want to spin the Bud and Lou up and down 12000 foot passes for two weeks. This wheelset will make life a lot easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Took my new ICT on a very technical ride this morning. As I had hoped the bike was perfect for this type of ride. The shortish stays, low bb and slack head angle really helped when I had to lift the front end up & over an obstacle. I dropped the pressures a couple psi to help smooth out the ride and get grip on the mossy rocks.

    When the trail smoothed out & I could get some speed the bike handled great & carved corners. Very happy with it so far.

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    beautiful ride. what bars and stems did you go with?

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    I will be working on something similar at some point but don't plan on getting a Bluto. I don't suppose the stock fork will have a problem with the 29+ set up will it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InWyo View Post
    I will be working on something similar at some point but don't plan on getting a Bluto. I don't suppose the stock fork will have a problem with the 29+ set up will it?
    Nope, the stock fork has way more clearance than the bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    beautiful ride. what bars and stems did you go with?
    Thanks. This is the bar I used. Looks like they're out of polished. I bought it almost a year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    Set up my 29+ wheelset last night! Haven't had a chance to ride any trail with it, but so far it feels awesome. Its like a whole new bike.

    Salsa hubs, WTB Scraper rims, Bontrager Chupacabra tires. Big thanks to the Universal Cycles folks for building them up, amazing work as always.













    Hopefully I can build up same set up...Thanks for the pics and the ride report. I'm sure this wheelset will rip in the desert terrain where I live
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    Took my ICT for a wee ride the other week

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    So just ordered WTB scrapers and going Maxxis chronicles... New wheelset should be fun! I'll post pics when it's all done

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    I noticed that Bikes Direct is selling 29-inch rims on 150/197 hubs but only 25mm wide rims. I assume that would be too narrow for a 3-inch tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InWyo View Post
    I noticed that Bikes Direct is selling 29-inch rims on 150/197 hubs but only 25mm wide rims. I assume that would be too narrow for a 3-inch tire?

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    Is that a custom/self-build only type of thing or are there places that have caught on and are selling those wheelsets?

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    Few mods since last photo. Love the alt-bar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HT5rider View Post
    Excellent write up. Very cool to hear your descriptions of this route and the terrain you faced over there during this awesome UK ultra. Keep it coming!!!

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    Hi ppl think i just bout ict frameset



    what are the cheapest cranks for ict? can i fit sram x5 fatbike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk View Post
    Hi ppl think i just bout ict frameset



    what are the cheapest cranks for ict? can i fit sram x5 fatbike?
    No. As far as I know Surly OD and Race Face Cinch are the only options. You need cranks for 190mm rear spacing and press fit bottom bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaMMu76 View Post
    Few mods since last photo. Love the alt-bar
    Which "alt" bar is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Which "alt" bar is it?
    It is OnOne OG carbon.

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    Hi,

    Got my ICT frame today. Checking headset alternatives now... Cane Creek ZS44/28.6 | EC44/30 right one for this ? 40 or 110 ? Any others ?

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    I am certainly uncertain, at least I'm pretty sure I am.

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    i9 hubs and Velocity Dually rims.

    Loving how this bike handles and rolls.
    I am certainly uncertain, at least I'm pretty sure I am.

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    Anyone slap on Bontrager Jackalopes on their ICT?

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    ppl can somebody point where to get rear axle for ict?
    or anybody can measure what size it must be
    or at least size with dropouts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk View Post
    ppl can somebody point where to get rear axle for ict?
    or anybody can measure what size it must be
    or at least size with dropouts....
    Isn't it 197x12mm?
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    197 just in hub... + dropouts + nuts

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    Bikeman will source it for you. Or Universal usually has the MDS parts. Under 50 bucks


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    maibe somebody share the dimenntions?
    because make axle will cost less 4 times and more lightweight

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    ppl once againt thanx to everyone for answers

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    can i use command post IR with ict?

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    Chain blow out

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    Has anyone experience chain breakage in a relatively new ICT? I just blew mine out and it's only a month old.

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    Not I mate. Ridden it to hell and back so far. Since hell was frozen this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnarracci View Post
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    Has anyone experience chain breakage in a relatively new ICT? I just blew mine out and it's only a month old.
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    No that's a fair enough assumption. However I was in an urban environment, flat street, starting when a light went green and two pedals in "pop". I wasn't super aggressive pedaling or gear shifting so I don't understand why this happened.I was able to land flat on my feet but I separated my shoulder and I'm not very happy about that (dumb shit lucky I didn't get rear ended by a car). Figured I'd check in with other users to see if there are any problems with Surly chains.
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    I first thought that it may be the master link/QR link, but looks like that's not the case. You *MAY* have damaged the chain while on the trails and then it fell apart on the road? Did you ever drop a chain, cross chain, chain suck, etc? It could also just be manuf. defect.

    I've had KMC chains before (actually, think I'm using it on one of my bikes), and no issues with breakage like that. Just simply buy a SRAM 10x chain and call it good. (or try your LBS to see if it's covered under warranty).

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    Nah,

    I've been pretty much on pavement 99% of the past month and its brand new. Never had an issue with the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnarracci View Post
    No that's a fair enough assumption. However I was in an urban environment, flat street, starting when a light went green and two pedals in "pop". I wasn't super aggressive pedaling or gear shifting so I don't understand why this happened.I was able to land flat on my feet but I separated my shoulder and I'm not very happy about that (dumb shit lucky I didn't get rear ended by a car). Figured I'd check in with other users to see if there are any problems with Surly chains.
    I had exactly that same thing happen to me on my 907. I was sure I had popped the link in the woods and it let go two days later while walking/ riding the dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rnarracci View Post
    Nah,

    I've been pretty much on pavement 99% of the past month and its brand new. Never had an issue with the chain.

    Sounds like your ICT is rebelling. 99% pavement?!? It needs dirt. I've ridden 99% dirt /snow/ice/mud/sand for the last 6 months. Almost daily with no issues at all. I'm at close to 1000 miles.
    Or maybe just better lube. Your chain looks nasty. I've been going with White Lightning and the dirt repelling of it is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    Sounds like your ICT is rebelling. 99% pavement?!? It needs dirt. I've ridden 99% dirt /snow/ice/mud/sand for the last 6 months. Almost daily with no issues at all. I'm at close to 1000 miles.
    Or maybe just better lube. Your chain looks nasty. I've been going with White Lightning and the dirt repelling of it is great.
    Well I'll have plenty of snow again soon enough but right now my adventure is dealing with the profound potholes left by last winter and the notoriously deadly drivers in our city. Do you think the very fine dust pictured is really a problem? I was figuring the cause to be a high torque start with the chain erroneously left mid gear-change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vilu View Post
    Hi,

    Got my ICT frame today. Checking headset alternatives now... Cane Creek ZS44/28.6 | EC44/30 right one for this ? 40 or 110 ? Any others ?
    I have a Chris King on mine.

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    hey all figured I could just ask here for the Ice Cream Truck, did the MSRP drop recently? i have seen a few place that are normally MSRp down to 2399 and one shop is actually showing a full size spread for available bikes. Am new to fat bikes this will be my first one and torn between the ICT and the Fat boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickcarll View Post
    hey all figured I could just ask here for the Ice Cream Truck, did the MSRP drop recently? i have seen a few place that are normally MSRp down to 2399 and one shop is actually showing a full size spread for available bikes. Am new to fat bikes this will be my first one and torn between the ICT and the Fat boy.
    they both ride very similar. The ICT is just a tank in comparison. Super tough. I think it's a little longer too.

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    I had the same problem: After 70 Miles the chain broke. The stock KMC chain is just crap, running a 10 speed shimano now, which is way better. From the beginning on i thought the stock KMC chain was looking a little skinny compared to other chains...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OocH View Post
    I had the same problem: After 70 Miles the chain broke. The stock KMC chain is just crap, running a 10 speed shimano now, which is way better. From the beginning on i thought the stock KMC chain was looking a little skinny compared to other chains...
    I think the equipment is fine.

    I just can't create enough torque to bust a chain. I can go up nearly any hill and still have the hp to pop a wheelie at the top. Breaking axles, busting free hubs and chains seem to be out of my area of expertise though.

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    I'm planning buying ICT this week. Help me with comparison between Surly OD and Race Face Evolve / Turbine crankset's. I had Evolve cranks with 28t narrow wide on Felt DD30. It was ok. Turbine Cinch 30 would probably be really good but how Surly OD will be in comparison between those? Someone says OD is too heavy? Also need to use rare 5 hole chainring is problem. I have nearly new 28t Wolf Tooth chainring (64bcd) so that would say Evolve if there isn't any real reasons to take others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomiKoo View Post
    I'm planning buying ICT this week. Help me with comparison between Surly OD and Race Face Evolve / Turbine crankset's. I had Evolve cranks with 28t narrow wide on Felt DD30. It was ok. Turbine Cinch 30 would probably be really good but how Surly OD will be in comparison between those? Someone says OD is too heavy? Also need to use rare 5 hole chainring is problem. I have nearly new 28t Wolf Tooth chainring (64bcd) so that would say Evolve if there isn't any real reasons to take others?
    No need to worry about this anymore. ICT frameset and Race Face Turbine Cinch crank's ordered.
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    Frameset (size 16"/S) arrived. Yes, someone is quite excited...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomiKoo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikecycology View Post
    Hell Yeah. Welcome to the ICT revolution. Tell me, how tall is the person that is getting this frame? I'd consider this for my daughter? Thanks, Wil
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomiKoo View Post
    I'm planning buying ICT this week. Help me with comparison between Surly OD and Race Face Evolve / Turbine crankset's. I had Evolve cranks with 28t narrow wide on Felt DD30. It was ok. Turbine Cinch 30 would probably be really good but how Surly OD will be in comparison between those? Someone says OD is too heavy? Also need to use rare 5 hole chainring is problem. I have nearly new 28t Wolf Tooth chainring (64bcd) so that would say Evolve if there isn't any real reasons to take others?
    I have been running OD cranks for a while on my Salsa BB then switch to Race Face cinch. You will need RF spacer kit (or equivalent spacers). The Q-factor will go up by 10mm. Weight was 942g on my park tool scale for OD with chainring and 652g for RF cinch with Nw 26T
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikecycology View Post
    Hell Yeah. Welcome to the ICT revolution. Tell me, how tall is the person that is getting this frame?
    Thank's! I'm 169cm (about 5'7) and I have short feet, long torso and longish hands. Instigator size M with long fork has reach near 410mm and it is perfect with 30mm stem. I presume ICT with 45mm stem should be close. My previous bike was Felt DD30 size M and it was a bit too big.

    Cranks will be RaceFace Turbine cinch with spider. That way I can use 28t wolftooth chainring and bashring from my previous bike. Picture is missing spacer ring's Lewis mentioned but I found those also. LBS had these available for good price so it was easy call.

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    What are your opinions on a summer setup?

    29+ or 27.5+?

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    29+ is more in line height wise to Bud and Lou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InWyo View Post
    What are your opinions on a summer setup?

    29+ or 27.5+?
    On the ICT I would definitely run 29+

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    Quote Originally Posted by InWyo View Post
    What are your opinions on a summer setup?

    29+ or 27.5+?
    I don't have plan for that. Bud/Lou combo has been ok for me. Maybe 4,8 Knard or 4,8 Jumbo Jim would be nice for my summer use. I also have Instigator 26+ and i'm planning to try 27,5+ with it.
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    I just bought an ICT after demoing the Ops version. Went with the standard build because I wanted wider tires for better snow floatation, and the nicer parts spec. Plus, Jack Frost Blue is an amazing colorway. Few thoughts after my initial ride on a hot humid day here in upstate new york.

    1. This bike is not ideal for trying to keep up with my friends on their sub 30 pound trail rigs. Especially with Bud and Lou leading the charge. Maybe some faster tires would change things? The weather conditions didnt help either.

    2. The ICT will make me a stronger rider. Coming from my Santa Cruz 5010c with carbon wheels, this thing is an absolute huffer. I havent ridden a full rigid steel bike since my Trek Antelope 820 waaaay back in the day. It takes a lot of work to rotate these wheels, and I have to pick better lines! I was in a world of hurt the night of the ride and the morning after.

    3. I'm going to have a hell of a lot of fun this winter. We get snow up here in Rochester, a lot of it. Should have plenty of opportunity for winter riding.

    4. The trail geometry is very fun, I felt confident pointed down some very steep and gnarly rooted trails.

    5. Think I'll probably want a Bluto and a dropper post come spring time, but for winter I'm going to rock it as-is.

    6. The SRAM Guide brakes have awesome feel and modulation along with good enough stopping power - time will tell how maintenance intensive they are. So far, I cant tell a difference between them and xt brakes.

    Overall, the bike is awesome. It's just so different from what I'm used to, it's going to take a little while getting used to pushing all this heft around on our local trail systems. On the plus side though, all the neighborhood kids think I'm the cool young/old neighbor guy and they drool over my bike collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfrrider View Post
    1. This bike is not ideal for trying to keep up with my friends on their sub 30 pound trail rigs. Especially with Bud and Lou leading the charge. Maybe some faster tires would change things? The weather conditions didnt help either.

    2. The ICT will make me a stronger rider. Coming from my Santa Cruz 5010c with carbon wheels, this thing is an absolute huffer. I havent ridden a full rigid steel bike since my Trek Antelope 820 waaaay back in the day. It takes a lot of work to rotate these wheels, and I have to pick better lines! I was in a world of hurt the night of the ride and the morning after.
    If you are comparing a 5" steel rigid steel fatty to a 5" travel all carbon FS rig for speed on dirt you will be disappointed. Especially if things get rough.

    The ICT is an awesome rig. Just use it with realistic expectations. It's going to take you places the carbon bike couldn't go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    If you are comparing a 5" steel rigid steel fatty to a 5" travel all carbon FS rig for speed on dirt you will be disappointed. Especially if things get rough.

    The ICT is an awesome rig. Just use it with realistic expectations. It's going to take you places the carbon bike couldn't go.
    Like through mud and over snow/ice.

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    ...and on into the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs flow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    If you are comparing a 5" steel rigid steel fatty to a 5" travel all carbon FS rig for speed on dirt you will be disappointed. Especially if things get rough.

    The ICT is an awesome rig. Just use it with realistic expectations. It's going to take you places the carbon bike couldn't go.
    I hear you...when i demoed the bike, i took it slow knowing that it would be a different type of riding than what i normally do, which is more speed oriented. When I went the other day with my friends, i tried to keep up with them, and that's where i really noticed the difference.

    Definitely going to have to get used to not going as fast, and being OK with that. I'm confident I can have just as much fun on this bike as any other, and it wont stop when the snow flies

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    Do you still have the 5010?
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    Fast on a fattie is kinda relative. You're gonna roll faster than ever over some stuff.

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    Oh yes. Awesome bike. Will ride the ICT next few times out then switch back to that for a ride to feel like a hero!

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    A friend of mine once told me that he has to complete change is expectations when he rides a fat bike in the same way he changes his perspective when he downhill skis vs telemark skis. Both still skiing, but quite different. I find the ICT is actually honing my skills better than I thought, and I imagine when I get a 29+ wheelset built up, it'll excentuate those skill even more. You really have to work on your body English to get it where you want it to go. The weight really accentuates using your hole body...then you're right. I get on my sub 21 lb X-C rig, point it downhill, and I'm setting PRs in techy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfrrider View Post
    I just bought an ICT after demoing the Ops version. Went with the standard build because I wanted wider tires for better snow floatation, and the nicer parts spec. Plus, Jack Frost Blue is an amazing colorway. Few thoughts after my initial ride on a hot humid day here in upstate new york.

    1. This bike is not ideal for trying to keep up with my friends on their sub 30 pound trail rigs. Especially with Bud and Lou leading the charge. Maybe some faster tires would change things? The weather conditions didnt help either.

    2. The ICT will make me a stronger rider. Coming from my Santa Cruz 5010c with carbon wheels, this thing is an absolute huffer. I havent ridden a full rigid steel bike since my Trek Antelope 820 waaaay back in the day. It takes a lot of work to rotate these wheels, and I have to pick better lines! I was in a world of hurt the night of the ride and the morning after.

    3. I'm going to have a hell of a lot of fun this winter. We get snow up here in Rochester, a lot of it. Should have plenty of opportunity for winter riding.
    I ride a 907 with Bud and Lou on Clownshoes. It absolutely made me a faster, stronger rider. If you were to build a second set of wheels, say Darryls with Dillinger5's or Marge Lites with Knards, the bike would be a rocket in comparison... Or my all time favorite, 29+ Knards on either Rabbit Holes or Velocity Duallys.
    My fat bike has transformed me into a winter person.
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