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    Steel Frame Fattie with Vertical Drop-Out's

    My apologies if this has been already asked about a million times, didn't find anything in a search.

    Who is making steel frame fatties (4" or 5") with vertical drops?

    I know Surly's are horizontal.

    My current rides are a Salsa El Mar and Fargo, and I really like steel and verticals.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Ice Cream Truck can be run 10mm qr in vertical drops. Or thru axle or ss.

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    The Genesis Caribou fits the bill (and looks like a great frame), but I can't see a way to get a frameset to the US.

    There's also the Singular Puffin.
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    Thanks, all. I appreciate the help.

    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach View Post
    Ice Cream Truck can be run 10mm qr in vertical drops. Or thru axle or ss.
    The LBS said an ICT Ops fits the bill for what I'm trying to do and my riding style. Not sure if I want to drop $2500 right now.

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    Dang, that's a nice looking bike! Probably out of my price range if the frame alone is $1850. Maybe if I went with a rigid fork and SLX drivetrain...

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    Message Capitol Cycles. I am almost certain they can do whatever you want for a reasonable price. I love mine Squatch fat bike.

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    Thanks, Chris. I emailed John at Capitol about the production XL fattie frame in red and he's going to check inventory. He thinks they are sold out.

    I also emailed Matter and Twenty2 about their production run fatties. Maybe I can go with a $1400 frame and build it up myself (good training exercise).

    Just wonder if the Surly ICT Ops fork will work with any of those frames.

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    I always wonder why anyone would want verticals over horizontal. I like the ability to ride out if my rear D. fails. Can't think of a single advantage to verticals off hand.

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    Easy wheel changes. I've had several bikes with track ends, discs and gears, and I hated that setup on every one. I've never had a derailer fail such that I couldn't jury rig something to get home.

    Every time I come across a Surly frame for sale with this setup, I have to pause and then think, "never again."

    Quote Originally Posted by Teton29er View Post
    I always wonder why anyone would want verticals over horizontal. I like the ability to ride out if my rear D. fails. Can't think of a single advantage to verticals off hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teton29er View Post
    I always wonder why anyone would want verticals over horizontal. I like the ability to ride out if my rear D. fails. Can't think of a single advantage to verticals off hand.
    If verticals work for Jay Petervary...


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    thanks seatboy. Probably depends on the bike a little too. My Pugs ops wheel changes easily, but I suppose you do have to handle the chain more than verticals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    The Genesis Caribou fits the bill (and looks like a great frame), but I can't see a way to get a frameset to the US.

    There's also the Singular Puffin.
    Genesis had one on the wesite last year for 400 pounds.
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    Ritchey Commando... should be available in next few months. I think they got stuck in the LA dock strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    Easy wheel changes. I've had several bikes with track ends, discs and gears, and I hated that setup on every one. I've never had a derailer fail such that I couldn't jury rig something to get home.

    Every time I come across a Surly frame for sale with this setup, I have to pause and then think, "never again."
    No kidding. I am in the "never again" group.

    The problems with horizontal drops are having to unbolt the brake on surlys, the fact that a hard impact can knock your wheel in the dropouts (usually requires a very strong QR at least, and sometimes track-nuts) and the crazy monkey-motion required to get the wheel back in with the derailleur. It's beyond dumb IMO. Now, some sliding dropouts get around at least a few of these problems, but horizontal are a so-so solution for an SS. Better to have some sort of vertical sliding arrangement, hands down better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Genesis had one on the wesite last year for 400 pounds.
    Complete bike here Genesis Caribou Fat Bike 2015 - £949.99 :: Sprockets Cycles
    Standard 4" tire fattie? I'm looking for a 190mm/5" frame that can also be used in a 29er+ config.

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    Ritchey Commando... should be available in next few months. I think they got stuck in the LA dock strike.

    mike
    It's interesting the number of fattie manufacturers who don't have forks with braze on's for bottles, etc. I guess many are getting away from the concept of fattie bikepacking.

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    I just thought of the Vassago Verfatten as well, though I can't get any geo information on it.
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