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    Any one else hear that thunder ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    Any one else hear that thunder ?
    It's the sound of a fat rolling bandwagon.
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    Stoked for those SpecialiZed tires! And that fork. $500 for a yampa fork? No thanks... Not with this puppy out. Competition is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Stoked for those SpecialiZed tires! And that fork. $500 for a yampa fork? No thanks... Not with this puppy out. Competition is a good thing.
    maybe. but I'd prefer a 15mm thu axle myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    those SpecialiZed tires!
    Are Bud and Lou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBR.com
    The rear end is quite wide and we hit or heel on seatstay sometimes.
    With an unchanged BB width and a 190mm rear axle I was wondering how that wouldn't happen.
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    Valve stems

    Rear. Well, that's different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous View Post
    With an unchanged BB width and a 190mm rear axle I was wondering how that wouldn't happen.
    Exactly. I guess they wanted plenty of clearance for any tires, but still I think 170mm would be enough. Where does it say the bb is "unchanged"? Why wouldn't they go with at least a 100mm with the 190mm? We figured that out years ago.
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    Hmmm...

    Nice looking machine. Highly manipulated tubing. Nice style. Looks like they've put a lot of thought into it. Well... except for that rear valve stem placement. The real question is... how did they get that electrical tape to stick to the tire sidewall?
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    They dropped the ball on thru-axle. Not sure how much I feel I've needed it on my fatty but it will be nice to have. Really stoked for their tire offerings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    Are Bud and Lou.
    * "Our test bike came with Surly tires but Specialized Ground Control tires are coming soon."

    I'm not a Specialized fan but I am pretty excited to see this after the lame output from Kona. They are at least bringing a fatbike spec'd with a carbon fork and aluminum frame for the same price as bikes without it. And now another tire option... and another rim/wheel option. This is a win.

    In a side note: I hope Surly comes out with a full suspension fat bike first or something crazy to surprise everyone again... otherwise I'm a little worried for them. Getting to be some really strong competition. This coming from a Surly fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Exactly. I guess they wanted plenty of clearance for any tires, but still I think 170mm would be enough. Where does it say the bb is "unchanged"? Why wouldn't they go with at least a 100mm with the 190mm? We figured that out years ago.
    With unchanged I meant 100mm. Increase the rear dropout spacing to 190mm vs. 170mm results in 10mm of reduced heel clearance. Probably not a huge issue with long s-bent chainstays. Seems like the MTBR folks hit the chainstays of the Specialized a lot, though. To keep enough heel clearance a 190mm rear axle would call for a 120mm BB, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Why wouldn't they go with at least a 100mm with the 190mm? We figured that out years ago.
    It looks like it is... https://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/...7/P1010265.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    It's the sound of a fat rolling bandwagon.
    I wonder how many people the big S sued for name rights on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous View Post
    With unchanged I meant 100mm. Increase the rear dropout spacing to 190mm vs. 170mm results in 10mm of reduced heel clearance. Probably not a huge issue with long s-bent chainstays. Seems like the MTBR folks hit the chainstays of the Specialized a lot, though. To keep enough heel clearance a 190mm rear axle would call for a 120mm BB, imho.
    This has me wondering if this bike is as pedal strike prone as the Mukluk. If they went with a 120mm BB shell it would be even worse than the Muk I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    I wonder how many people the big S sued for name rights on that one.
    Name rights for Fatboy? Specialized have been using that for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    Name rights for Fatboy? Specialized have been using that for years.
    You are right, I do recall them using that somewhere else, just can't remember where?
    It was meant more as an expression of dislike for the way that the big S has conducted themselves over the years. That being said, there is no denying the fact that they are able to produce a superior product.

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    Re: Specialized Fatboy

    This makes the Kona offering look like a half-baked cash in.

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    Geo? Is this more trail or adventure-oriented?

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    Looks good. I bet a couple locals buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    You are right, I do recall them using that somewhere else, just can't remember where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    In a side note: I hope Surly comes out with a full suspension fat bike first or something crazy to surprise everyone again... otherwise I'm a little worried for them. Getting to be some really strong competition. This coming from a Surly fan.
    Surly will never come out with a FS fat bike. How long have they been selling MTBs and have they come out with a single suspension equipped bike yet? No.

    Salsa [Surly's sister company at QBP] has said they'll sell a FS fat bike as soon as there is a production fat fork from one of the NA suspension companies.

    Personally I'm not worried about Surly at all. They've continued to thrive selling steel rigid bikes in a market with tons of high tech alternatives. I don't see anything changing.

    So far neither the Kona or the Specialized fatbike has broken any new ground that the existing smaller bike companies haven't been already providing.

    The only real concern I have is that if the fatbike market gets divided amongst too many players will there be enough incentive for companies like Surly to spend the $$$ to do the R&D and produce new products that can then be copied? If the incentive is too small you see lots of similar fatbike product from everyone and slowed product development.

    That won't be bad for Surly they'll keep investing where they have an advantage [ie. Krampus/29+], but it would be bad for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Surly will never come out with a FS fat bike. How long have they been selling MTBs and have they come out with a single suspension equipped bike yet? No.
    That's why I said something crazy to surprise us... it would be a surprise right? I was just saying... their niche hold on the fat bike realm keeps getting smaller and smaller. I love my Moonlander, but at the same time would I like something that doesn't take all my energy to get it on top of the car? Yes.
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    I just updated the article with an interview with the designer.

    Just In: Specialized Fatboy Fat Bike | Mountain Bike Review

    Geometry is about the same as the Crave. Tires and valve stem location is just temporary. Price for the Expert is about $2500 and weight is around 30 lbs. Available hopefully by December 2013.

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    Oil in Deore brakes will be replaced by some special one? As I know, original one is not the best option for very low temperatures.

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    If they can get that Fatboy expert out the door for $2500 (and maybe closer to 2K if you patronize your LBS that sells Spesh and get along well with the owner) and it weighs 30lbs rolling 4.8's and 2x10, that's pretty impressive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    I just updated the article with an interview with the designer.

    Just In: Specialized Fatboy Fat Bike | Mountain Bike Review

    Geometry is about the same as the Crave. Tires and valve stem location is just temporary. Price for the Expert is about $2500 and weight is around 30 lbs. Available hopefully by December 2013.

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    So 2 months too late and sold out before the new year? lol

    IOW, hopefully Specialized doesn't run into the same availability issues as some other fat bike builders.
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    Specialized Fatboy

    I have to say. That looks pretty good. Unlike the Kona, this actually makes my decision for the next step harder. Will there be a frame option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    I just updated the article with an interview with the designer.

    Just In: Specialized Fatboy Fat Bike | Mountain Bike Review

    Geometry is about the same as the Crave. Tires and valve stem location is just temporary. Price for the Expert is about $2500 and weight is around 30 lbs. Available hopefully by December 2013.

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    Purportedly, this is the new Trek fatbike in answer to the Specialized model..... (Found on Freewheel Bike's Facebook page)
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    I must say that I am glad to see Specialized step into the market. This will hopefully bring the prices of some things down for us, especially tires. I am personally not a big fan of Specialized bikes but this looks like a good option for the fat bike market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    Any one else hear that thunder ?
    Nope, But I see a cloud that looks just like the other clouds in the sky.
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    I actually liked the Kona fat bike, looking like Jones frame, but then, bam! Fatboy makes Kona fat bike look like an idiot.
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    I say - another fatbike by a company that many more people know of (due to being one of the "big 3" seems like a good thing - more people riding these bikes = more interest = innovation. No?

    I don't get all the negativity. Seems weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus View Post
    I say - another fatbike by a company that many more people know of (due to being one of the "big 3" seems like a good thing - more people riding these bikes = more interest = innovation. No?

    I don't get all the negativity. Seems weird.
    Spot on!! I don't get the people who say it's nothing new just like every other fat bike out there. It's a friggen BIKE, has two wheels like most every bike out there. It's capable of fitting some big ars tires and it's going to help get more people on em which means more exposure for the sport which in turn means more people looking for trails to ride and to help lobby for more trail usage. I'm not a total Spec fanboy but I have/had a few and they make some great bikes They put a lot of r&d into everything they do and I welcome them into the fat bike realm. Now bring on those rims and tires!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfin View Post
    Nope, But I see a cloud that looks just like the other clouds in the sky.
    Oh come on. If you were talking about the Kona fatbike, I'd agree.

    This bike brings a lot to the table. A lightweight, stiff frame with ample tire clearance, new 90mm rims that are significantly lighter than current offerings, new tires, and big time promotion and distribution. These are huge.

    Just buy an "I rode fatbikes before they were cool" t-shirt and get on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post

    "I rode fatbikes before they were cool" t-shirt .
    I soooooo want one of those!!

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    Looks great. Surly will always have their loyal steel is real following, but their reign as the fat bike leader is coming to an end. I'd bet Secialized did more R&D on this bike than Surly ever did when designing the Pugsley. I'll give surly credit for being innovative in offering a bike that can fit the fat tires before anyone else, but I don't think they put much R&D into anything. I really doubt they have any professional engineers on their staff. I appreciate what they offer, but I just don't think they have the resources to do real development, and testing. If they did, they probably wouldn't have had the issues they have with cracked frames and weak forks, on stuff that's not even light weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus View Post
    I say - another fatbike by a company that many more people know of (due to being one of the "big 3" seems like a good thing - more people riding these bikes = more interest = innovation. No?

    I don't get all the negativity. Seems weird.
    Because everyone knows that what will ruin fatbikes is greater availability and more people riding them. Then we poor OG fatbikers will no longer be special. and we will have a sad.

    Also, the big companies will introduce all sorts of crazy new standards to compete with the totally locked down standards that everyone else came up with (how y'all feeling about jumping on the 170 train?)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    Looks great. Surly will always have their loyal steel is real following, but their reign as the fat bike leader is coming to an end. I'd bet Secialized did more R&D on this bike than Surly ever did when designing the Pugsley. I'll give surly credit for being innovative in offering a bike that can fit the fat tires before anyone else, but I don't think they put much R&D into anything. I really doubt they have any professional engineers on their staff. I appreciate what they offer, but I just don't think they have the resources to do real development, and testing. If they did, they probably wouldn't have had the issues they have with cracked frames and weak forks, on stuff that's not even light weight.
    Really? This has to be one of the lamest posts I have seen. Did QBP just pull all of their Surly designs out of thin air? Quality has several bikes lines of all kinds with all kinds of new designs for all kinds of different uses. Living in MN I have personally seen Quality employees out riding all kinds of prototypes. I have seen prototypes for a new Foundry hard tail, Mukluk, and Spearfish on our local trails over the past several months. I also know a few of the people who develop and test their new bikes. They are putting in the same planning and testing of any other bike company. I have also seen the Salsa FS fattie proto they have at Q headquarters. They have had a proto for that hanging around the past couple of years. I think they have had a few bad runs of some components and frames, but that is the chance you take having things manufactured overseas. It happens on occasion. I suppose Specialized has done some great R & D the past 5+ years sitting on the sideline watching what Surly and Salsa have been doing in the fat bike world. Sure is easy to design a new fatbike when all the R & D has been already done for you by various other manufacturers.

    I personally think the new Fatboy is pretty cool and good to see another manufacturer on board, but I think it is lame to rip the pioneers of the mass market fat bike and give all the new credit to the Johnny Come Lately's of the world of fat biking.

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    " I suppose Specialized has done some great R & D the past 5+ years sitting on the sideline watching what Surly and Salsa have been doing in the fat bike world. Sure is easy to design a new fatbike when all the R & D has been already done for you by various other manufacturers."

    Amen, brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYNOFREERIDE View Post
    Really? This has to be one of the lamest posts I have seen. Did QBP just pull all of their Surly designs out of thin air? Quality has several bikes lines of all kinds with all kinds of new designs for all kinds of different uses. Living in MN I have personally seen Quality employees out riding all kinds of prototypes. I have seen prototypes for a new Foundry hard tail, Mukluk, and Spearfish on our local trails over the past several months. I also know a few of the people who develop and test their new bikes. They are putting in the same planning and testing of any other bike company. I have also seen the Salsa FS fattie proto they have at Q headquarters. They have had a proto for that hanging around the past couple of years. I think they have had a few bad runs of some components and frames, but that is the chance you take having things manufactured overseas. It happens on occasion. I suppose Specialized has done some great R & D the past 5+ years sitting on the sideline watching what Surly and Salsa have been doing in the fat bike world. Sure is easy to design a new fatbike when all the R & D has been already done for you by various other manufacturers.
    I may be wrong, but I envision Surly as a small shop of less than 20 or so employees, that although they have great ideas of what bikes to make, they don't have much resources to develop them to the point that a bigger company like specialized can. Designing a new frame, even using a CAD program, and getting it fabbed up and test riding it, without instrumentation is not the same as using Finite Element analysis of the designs to test them before even making a prototype, and subjecting the prototypes to fatigue testing on mechanical implements with full instrumentation, etc.

    I don't know. Maybe Surly has all of that and more under QBP, or maybe Specialized doesn't do that stuff either. It generally doesn't take that much technology to make a bike durable if it is made on the safe side of heavy, but if you want to push the limits by making stuff lighter, it is very helpful in making the product perform like it should.
    test riding the prototypes is the best way to judge the performance, but when doing that it is especially usefull to have a facility that can fabricate new parts or frames quickly to implement changes during the development of those prototypes, rather than having to wait for another prototype from asia. I don't know if Spec. has that either though.

    I can only base my assumptions on what I have seen for the quality, and performance of each of their products. And from what I have seen of the Surly failures, they should have been caught before a prototype was even made if using Finite Element analysis. None of the common failures I have seen looked like poor workmanship in production could have been the common factor. In fact, I'd bet the guys welding them up could have told you where they were going to fail before the first one did

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    Oh come on. If you were talking about the Kona fatbike, I'd agree.

    This bike brings a lot to the table. A lightweight, stiff frame with ample tire clearance, new 90mm rims that are significantly lighter than current offerings, new tires, and big time promotion and distribution. These are huge.

    Just buy an "I rode fatbikes before they were cool" t-shirt and get on with it.
    Let me know when I can order my t-shirt. What I mean by "just another cloud" is that with every new bike that comes out there is a little change here some grams there. Which is expected or why would one come out with a bike that simply had a different name on it. I'm just saying let's just hold back on the thunder.

    No doubt those rims are lighter then my UMA IIIs, unless they make a break through in rubber compound chemistry I'd say it will be just another tire. As for the simple fact that its specialized is pretty cool, I've got nothing against them. I was simply referencing the bike it's self.

    Definitely glad to see the heavy waits throw their hats in such an unsettled ring. We will hopefully see more and bigger clicks up the innovation pole. And their will probly be a bike sometime soon that is just to wide for the general public and it will bomb. But I hope I own one as in the land of 200 days form snowfall to snowfall float is KING IMHO.
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    Great words AUTO
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    ...funny Mark...I was thinking nearly the same thing about what Surly and Salsa were doing 10 years ago...
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    I would be excited for some wide captains for sure. That is all.

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    From what I have heard, Specialized want to develop the fatties and components over the coming years only one tyre in one size apparently for now.

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    I think those fatboys look really nice. I also agree that more companies on fat business creates more innovations - though I'm really not a big fan of ever growing "standards".

    Drooling for new tires on market anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    Designing a new frame, even using a CAD program, and getting it fabbed up and test riding it, without instrumentation is not the same as using Finite Element analysis of the designs to test them before even making a prototype, and subjecting the prototypes to fatigue testing on mechanical implements with full instrumentation, etc.
    FEA isn't something that could only be obtained by the big three. Most CAD software programs have a FEA option that anyone can purchase, and that upgrade would cosst less than 5 figures.

    I agree that Specialized has a lot more at their disposal, but the same issue can happen to anyone regardless of how much money they have to spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi707 View Post
    I must say that I am glad to see Specialized step into the market. This will hopefully bring the prices of some things down for us, especially tires. I am personally not a big fan of Specialized bikes but this looks like a good option for the fat bike market.
    Considering what normal-sized Specialized tires cost, I don't foresee them offering any bargain-basement pricing on fat tires.

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    Yeah, that's what I was alluding to. Karma coming crawling.

    Schadenfreude aside, looks like a game changer.

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    I can only base my assumptions on what I have seen for the quality, and performance of each of their products. And from what I have seen of the Surly failures, they should have been caught before a prototype was even made if using Finite Element analysis. None of the common failures I have seen looked like poor workmanship in production could have been the common factor. In fact, I'd bet the guys welding them up could have told you where they were going to fail before the first one did
    We can argue all day about Surly R&D... but at the end of the day it was one year on one model. Tell me that the development of the Moonlander and the reliability of that ISN'T impressive??? They are making a standard 135mm rear hub work with a 4" wide rim and 5" wide tire with a crazy looking rear offset... and literally no complaints of anything in the rear bending, breaking, or cracking.... or really any problems on that frame.

    Bla bla bla... anyway... back to the new bike chatter

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    I agree that Specialized has a lot more at their disposal, but the same issue can happen to anyone regardless of how much money they have to spend.
    +1 - Just google "Specialized Bikes recall" - Surly has nothing to feel bad about.
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    Re: Specialized Fatboy

    Not a huge "S" fan, but the Fatboy is a good looking bike. Curious to see what impact the new rims and tires have on the market.

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    Sigh.

    Guys, the tires Specialized is using are the Bud and Lou combo with the name blacked out. That's it. They're not releasing some magical new tire that's going to magically make the tire prices come down. They're using a tire that's already in production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikernks View Post
    Sigh.

    Guys, the tires Specialized is using are the Bud and Lou combo with the name blacked out. That's it. They're not releasing some magical new tire that's going to magically make the tire prices come down. They're using a tire that's already in production.
    Those tires are for the demo bikes only. The new Specialized tires are still under development and will be ready when production bikes arrive. They will be based on the Ground Control tread and should be quite a bit lighter. ETA for this bike is around Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikernks View Post
    Sigh.

    Guys, the tires Specialized is using are the Bud and Lou combo with the name blacked out. That's it. They're not releasing some magical new tire that's going to magically make the tire prices come down. They're using a tire that's already in production.
    If you actually read the article or any of these post, you would know that was addressed. The preview was with Bud/Lou, They are coming out with their own 4.8
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    they said the bud and lou, as well as the odd tire valve placement were temporary, as these are pre-production prototypes, not the production bikes that will have specialized tires, and some other small changes.
    read the article:Just In: Specialized Fatboy Fat Bike | Mountain Bike Review

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikernks View Post
    Sigh.

    Guys, the tires Specialized is using are the Bud and Lou combo with the name blacked out. That's it. They're not releasing some magical new tire that's going to magically make the tire prices come down. They're using a tire that's already in production.
    That's on the prototype.

    They have stated they will have their own 120tpi tyre, and it will have a tread pattern similar to one of their existing products.
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    I remember waiting for my Fatty after preordering it from On-One, when they were still showing pictures of prototypes being tested with other tires on them, while they were still working on getting their own tires ready. It was worth the wait then, as the Fatty and it's Floater tires were excellent, and they both helped to bring down the cost of owning a fat bike. It's Almost a year later now, and Specialized is now the one showing new stuff in prototype form. It's a bit higher end than the On-One, so would make a nice upgrade come Christmas.

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    Sigh.

    Guys, the tires Specialized is using are the Bud and Lou combo with the name blacked out. That's it. They're not releasing some magical new tire that's going to magically make the tire prices come down. They're using a tire that's already in production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfin View Post
    Definitely glad to see the heavy waits throw their hats in such an unsettled ring. We will hopefully see more and bigger clicks up the innovation pole. And their will probly be a bike sometime soon that is just to wide for the general public and it will bomb. But I hope I own one as in the land of 200 days form snowfall to snowfall float is KING IMHO.
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    That's a nice looking bike, but I'd rather ride my Fatback. And yes, I'd buy a Fatback again before buying a Fatboy...oh man, I hope that SpecialEd doesn't take legal action against Fatback because they have "Fat" in their name. Like I said, I'll stick with my Fatback outfitted with my Epic Designs, I mean Revelate Designs bags

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    I rode with two guys from Specialized in April of 2013 at some local trails who were testing out two beautiful anodised fatbikes. One was blue, the other was purple. If they offer anodised colours I will for sure purchase one of them.
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    Pretty sure Specialized hasn't sold a bike with non-Specialized tires in decades. Surly could probably never produce enough tires to keep up with how many of these bikes will be sold.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Fatboy

    Well today I placed an order and have to wait to see if I can get one from the 1st shipment to New Zealand or the 2nd shipment next year

    The name Fatboy has been around for years with Specialized.
    Its been the Name of a line of BMX bikes and of There road tyres for MTB bikes years ago (I think they where 26" x 1.25").

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    Are they taking orders already?
    Is the MSRP set yet?

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    Did anyone mention that Specialized already made a bike called the Fatboy 5 years ago, that had 24x3.5" tires on 3" front and 6" rear rims. That's right a 24x6" wide bicycle rim. It was a chopper bicycle of course, but that is wider than a Clown shoe by 50%. If someone made a 6" wide tire to go on it, it would be as tall as or taller than the 26x4.8" tires. If someone does go wider than 5", it would probably be best to go down to a 24" rim to keep the overall diameter and weight down.
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    Specialized Fatboy

    They are including a carbon one, that's a step further than most go. I think...they've done a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfdog93 View Post
    If they include a suspension fork, I'm in.
    It has been widely circulated in the industry that Rock Shox will have a fat bike front suspension fork soon. Not sure if it is an exclusive to some company or another, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that for the first year it is out. Rock Shox and Fox will do that if a company fronts the tooling money for a project.
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    Isn't suspension on a fat bike kind of redundant? Doesn't the low PSI absorb any rough stuff?

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    The fat tires absorb a lot, but they are still rigid bikes. There is no comparison between my Mukluk and FS 29er. My FS is way more plush. My fattie is more confortable than a standard rigid mtn bike, but it still beats you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYNOFREERIDE View Post
    The fat tires absorb a lot, but they are still rigid bikes. There is no comparison between my Mukluk and FS 29er. My FS is way more plush. My fattie is more confortable than a standard rigid mtn bike, but it still beats you up.
    +1 - 2 trail rides back to back on my Pugs and I feel like an old man. I can ride my FS MTB 7 days a week on the same trails and just feel tired. YMMV depending on what your local trails are like.

    Not everyone needs suspension on a fatbike - just like not everyone needs suspension on a regular MTB, but big tires can only deal with so much impact from the trail.

    It will be nice to have a production fat fork from RS as an option. I probably won't put one on my Pugs, but if it fits a 29 x 3" Knard comfortably I could see having one for my Krampus.
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    This will drive the price of tires down. Specialized tires are manufactured for them by Kenda, Maxxis and CST, if one of them are tooling up to make fat tires for Specialized can their own tread patterns be far behind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    This will drive the price of tires down. Specialized tires are manufactured for them by Kenda, Maxxis and CST, if one of them are tooling up to make fat tires for Specialized can their own tread patterns be far behind?
    Not necessarily. Innova builds tires for Surly and they don't have a fat tire in their catalog. The only place I see Innova tires is at Walmart.

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    I was excited to see if I could swap over a lot of stuff from my Pugs but it appears not. I'm especially not doing it cuz of the tapered head tube- I just finished a Lefty conversion on the Pugs and I am only switching frames in the future if I can take that with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Not everyone needs suspension on a fatbike - just like not everyone needs suspension on a regular MTB, but big tires can only deal with so much impact from the trail.
    This! 100%

    If you adventure on your Fatty, or snow ride only, you don't "need" suspension. The tires will take care of it. If you trail ride, you may find the need. I myself see a fork in my future. It is the one thing I find "lacking" in my Fat experience, at times. Granted, I am at that point riding the bike outside its intended usage, but ... but... it's so much FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    I think this needs to be posted again? How many times are people going to wonder the same things in this thread... that are already answered in this thread (or the other "Specialized Prototype spotted" thread).

    And if I hear "this will drive fat bike tire prices down" one more time in this same thread, I am just going to lose it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    I was excited to see if I could swap over a lot of stuff from my Pugs but it appears not. I'm especially not doing it cuz of the tapered head tube- I just finished a Lefty conversion on the Pugs and I am only switching frames in the future if I can take that with me.
    There are plenty of headsets that allow a normal steer tube to be used with a tapered frame so no worries there. Def make sure to keep the lefty though! they are fantastic on a fatty.

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    Am I the only one disappointed that they're not making a 3.8-4" tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    Am I the only one disappointed that they're not making a 3.8-4" tire?
    From my friend at the camp today: Kevlar Bead 4.8" Ground Control Tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunttofu View Post
    From my friend at the camp today: Kevlar Bead 4.8" Ground Control Tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flobukki View Post
    fatboy is a stupid name for a fatbike. i hobe harley davidson sues them
    Pretty sure Harley is "Fat Boy", so they are safe. I wonder if a Specialized Fatboy will encourage the same kind of poseur behavior that a Harley Fat Boy does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
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    Nope, I also want better trail tires
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    Am I the only one disappointed that they're not making a 3.8-4" tire?
    Nope. I was hoping for that too. Still, more fatbikes of any size will encourage WTB, Schwalbe etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    Nope, I also want better trail tires
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    Am I the only one disappointed that they're not making a 3.8-4" tire?
    That's my preferred range as well, but I wouldn't say I'm disappointed. Actually, I'm fairly happy with the tires I have now (Escalators, HuDus, even Larry's). Haven't ridden Specialized tires since the early 90s, so my expectations aren't that high.

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    I bet this is going to drive fatbike prices down LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    This! 100%

    If you adventure on your Fatty, or snow ride only, you don't "need" suspension. The tires will take care of it. If you trail ride, you may find the need. I myself see a fork in my future. It is the one thing I find "lacking" in my Fat experience, at times. Granted, I am at that point riding the bike outside its intended usage, but ... but... it's so much FUN!

    I wanted to beat the big guys to "market." I need to get back to my fork project.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    Nope, I also want better trail tires
    Have you tried the On-One Floater tires? I am loving them for trail riding. I ride mostly single track with alot of chunk and the the Floater tires performs very well. Lots of traction on every surface I have come to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    And if I hear "this will drive fat bike tire prices down" one more time in this same thread, I am just going to lose it.
    Quick everyone, this guy's trying to stop us from beating the horse. Next thing he's going to expect us to stop "driving the prices of fat bike tires and components down" in all the other threads. Get him!

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    it will drive the prices of fat bike components down on when they make too many for the market and have to surplus the ones they didn't sell (ducking)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    Quick everyone, this guy's trying to stop us from beating the horse. Next thing he's going to expect us to stop "driving the prices of fat bike tires and components down" in all the other threads. Get him!
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    Hey if you survived the Wallgoosepocalypse of 2013 nothing can get you down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    Are they taking orders already?
    Is the MSRP set yet?
    I work at my LBS and most Specialized shop's in New Zealand have had to place there orders for stock this week.

    Yes to MSRP, But anyone in New Zealand can go into there LBS and Ask! I'm not going to post it here (Sorry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by winkster View Post
    Have you tried the On-One Floater tires? I am loving them for trail riding. I ride mostly single track with alot of chunk and the the Floater tires performs very well. Lots of traction on every surface I have come to.
    Hey;

    I was wondering why no one else mentioned these? I guess the fact that all fatbike tire prices will naturally be coming down now that Specialized is getting into the market rendered this obvious choice moot. Relative to HuDus (120) and Nates (27), I am very pleased with their performance after one month of hard trail riding. In fact, I can comfortably say that I think they are the best all around tire choice out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    Hey;

    I was wondering why no one else mentioned these? I guess the fact that all fatbike tire prices will naturally be coming down now that Specialized is getting into the market rendered this obvious choice moot. Relative to HuDus (120) and Nates (27), I am very pleased with their performance after one month of hard trail riding. In fact, I can comfortably say that I think they are the best all around tire choice out there.
    It's not like we run over to our LBS and pick one up, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    It's not like we run over to our LBS and pick one up, though.
    Ha! I have yet to see ANYTHING fat in any of my LBS (Monmouth County, NJ). Apparently they're waiting for the bandwagon to run them over.

    Edit: Hold on, I'm being told that the bike shops are just waiting for Trek and/or Specialized to get on board and drive the prices down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Ha! I have yet to see ANYTHING fat in any of my LBS (Monmouth County, NJ). Apparently they're waiting for the bandwagon to run them over.

    Edit: Hold on, I'm being told that the bike shops are just waiting for Trek and/or Specialized to get on board and drive the prices down.
    lmao!
    Same here in Philly, although one of my LBS's, Bicycle Revolutions does at least stock fat bikes, which is more than can be said for any of the other Surly/Salsa dealers in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikernks View Post
    Sigh.

    Guys, the tires Specialized is using are the Bud and Lou combo with the name blacked out. That's it. They're not releasing some magical new tire that's going to magically make the tire prices come down. They're using a tire that's already in production.
    Sigh another I looked at the pretty pictures, didn't read a thing and made a stupid post comment.
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    FB post from my LBS owner last night from the Spesh dealer event in Colorado:

    "Ned O just beat a stacked field in the A short track race on a FATBOY. Unreal!"

    And it was accompanied by a blur with huge tires screaming by.

    From what I've been reading, the big S is really blowing a lot of minds this week with the glory of fat bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    Hey;

    I was wondering why no one else mentioned these? I guess the fact that all fatbike tire prices will naturally be coming down now that Specialized is getting into the market rendered this obvious choice moot. Relative to HuDus (120) and Nates (27), I am very pleased with their performance after one month of hard trail riding. In fact, I can comfortably say that I think they are the best all around tire choice out there.
    Are you saying that this will drive the price of tires down? The Fatboy and the AWOL, they are now forgiven for ingnoring 650b.

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    Based upon what I've seen with nearly every profit-driven company, I am highly skeptical of any speculative conclusions regarding a substantial positive effect on fat bike/component prices.

    Using tires as an example:

    If a 2.4" DH/XC tire costs upwards of $80 while so many similar options exist - and those tires are made by only a handful of manufacturers - I don't think a fat tire that's nearly twice the size and amount of rubber will be noticeably cheaper than a Bud or Lou is today.

    EDIT: Invalid argument after thinking of rubber used in vehicle tires lol.

    Also, all of these things are only worth what people are willing to pay. If enough people pay $2500 for a Fatboy, that's what Specialized will continue to sell them for. Pricing probably won't change much. Competition will be primarily in aesthetics, intended use, brand loyalty, etc.

    That's my perspective, but I'm always open to objective counter-arguments and I'd LOVE to be proven wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    It's not like we run over to our LBS and pick one up, though.
    I just bought a hudu and knard from my lbs. My cousins lbs has six knards waiting for bikes. You guys must be slumming it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    I just bought a hudu and knard from my lbs. My cousins lbs has six knards waiting for bikes. You guys must be slumming it.
    The LBS here have fatbikes gathering dust on the floor so it's pretty hard to convince them they want to stock extra tires and such. LBS stock what they sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    I just bought a hudu and knard from my lbs. My cousins lbs has six knards waiting for bikes. You guys must be slumming it.
    Fatbikes haven't gained as much popularity in the mid-atlantic as they have in the midwest. Aside from the one guy I usually ride with who has pugs, I've only seen a fatbike on the trails here just 3 times. I ride 4 days per week or more. My most recent sighting was a 9:zero:7 just last week. They're quite rare here.

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    There are exactly five in my area of 200k souls, and I own two of them! Not much call for parts stock yet...
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    Will someone who does pay attention in class tell me whether it has any chain tensioning provisions? Dang my '12 mukluk is starting to look all homely and awkward...

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    I've never seen another fatbike besides my own, I would probably gush all over my saddle if I did so it's not a bad thing.

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    we have more than 15 in my little 7,000 person rural Alaskan village
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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    Will someone who does pay attention in class tell me whether it has any chain tensioning provisions? Dang my '12 mukluk is starting to look all homely and awkward...
    Definitely makes the Mukluk look pretty sorry. I wonder if the 170mm rear hub will be obsolete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    I work at my LBS and most Specialized shop's in New Zealand have had to place there orders for stock this week.

    Yes to MSRP, But anyone in New Zealand can go into there LBS and Ask! I'm not going to post it here (Sorry).

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    ...Be careful what you're looking at because it might be looking back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Sweet, now I can't wait to see the true specs. I'll go against the grain and hope they run a little small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpg View Post
    I went to a local Special ED shop today, they didn't even know if the Fatty was coming to Australia. I'll double check.
    Coming to Australia late this year. The store I work in has three on order and once Specialized have the tyres done, bikes are ready to ship

    Two of us have Fatboys back ordered.

    Get in quick with your orders as there may not be many available here in Oz

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    did someone say there was a Blur on fat tires?
    that's what I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    did someone say there was a Blur on fat tires?
    that's what I want.
    As in SC? I emailed them and they didn't sound too interested in anything fat...at least weren't willing to leak any info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    did someone say there was a Blur on fat tires?
    that's what I want.
    I've got a SC Nomad with 2.4" Conti Trail Kings in the rear there is just barely any room for dirt/small rocks. SC has said they are not releasing any more new bikes this year so if there is a fat Blur it's gotta be a totally custom job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    FB post from my LBS owner last night from the Spesh dealer event in Colorado:

    "Ned O just beat a stacked field in the A short track race on a FATBOY. Unreal!"

    And it was accompanied by a blur with huge tires screaming by.

    From what I've been reading, the big S is really blowing a lot of minds this week with the glory of fat bikes.
    this is what I was referring to when I asked if there was a [SantaCruz]Blur with fat tires, but I was misinterpreting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    You are right, I do recall them using that somewhere else, just can't remember where?
    T'was a BMX bike.

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    Hope this isn't too off topic... anybody know what font they used for the "FatBoy" moniker on the frame? Would love to make my own car decal with that font! thx!

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    Just picked mine up today, but its raining, hopefully get a ride tomorrow.

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    Had my first ride on the Fatboy this morning. Wow. Wow. Wow. Great bike. I'll put up more of a review later on, but really enjoyed the bike and so glad to have one! Pretty drastic upgrade from the FB4, which I'm really glad about.

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    Where are you finding the best packed trails for the fats in eastern CT? Had my Fatboy now for just over 3 weeks, and am always looking for trails with reliable packing. I guess the warm weather in the last couple of weeks is the real problem.

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    Are you guys happy with comp brakes ? I'm not. Thinking to change rotors to 203mm front and 180mm rear. Any experience to share ? Trails here in the Alps are pretty demanding so I need more stopping power.

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    Eastern CT: Crandalls in Tolland has three or more miles off snowshoe tramped trail. Snip has probably triple that in snowmobile packed trails. Case usually gets packed in quickly too.

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    It doesn't look like it (and it may be totally unnecessary) but is the Fatboy geometry/fork suitable for a suspension fork in the future (should they become more easily available).

    Not sure that I would ever need a suspension fork, but I'd like to know if that would be an option should I purchase a Fatboy.

    The bike would be primarily used for summer riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mneidin View Post
    It doesn't look like it (and it may be totally unnecessary) but is the Fatboy geometry/fork suitable for a suspension fork in the future (should they become more easily available).
    I assumed the bend at the top of the downtube was for future suspension fork crown clearance. I have not seen an A-C measurement on the fork, but it looks suspension corrected to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJones View Post
    I assumed the bend at the top of the downtube was for future suspension fork crown clearance. I have not seen an A-C measurement on the fork, but it looks suspension corrected to me.
    When I look at the pictures, I only see about an 1 1/2" to 2" of space between the top of the tire and the bottom of the headset. I would think that the crown would take about an inch of that. If you wanted 100mm fork (which could be overkill on a fatbike), you would end up raising the front end by 2" (less sag). I would think that would change the handling quite a bit. Perhaps that could be offset somewhat by a different stem or shorter steerer tube, however that would still result in a somewhat slacker head tube angle. That's just how I view the pictures.

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    I'm getting a 470mm axle to crown measurement for the Fat Boy fork.

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    My Fatty

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    Well I have to say, I loved my Fatboy this year. My only regret was that I wasn't able to test it in dirt. I didn't have any problems with the stopping power on my comp. One I'm going to do if I like the Fatboy in the summer is buy a set of new tires.

    Anyone planning on doing this upgrade?

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    I might look at the Bluto next summer. I put Floaters on mine for this summer.

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    Hello, I am studying the option of installing the fork rock shox bluto on the fatboy. But I do not know what the limit of travel fork installed. Specialized's answer is "recommend using 80mm of travel." But I'm interested in installing 100mm of travel. Anyone know more information about this topic? thank you very much.

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    Picked one up today. Loving it.

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    Has it been confirmed that we can add a 80mm BLUTO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by somiedo View Post
    Anyone know more information about this topic? thank you very much.
    It all depends on the length of the rigid fork as to how much travel you can use. Specialized don't have the fork length listed on their site.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    I believe 80mm matches the geo of the rigid fork. You going longer is going to mess with the geometry, which is not a big deal, probably. But it also increases the torque on the steer tube. I HIGHLY doubt this would lead to any kind of failure, but if it did, I suspect specialized would not warranty based on their recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evercycling View Post
    Picked one up today. Loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    17.5?

    Yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by evercycling View Post
    Yup
    Looks like good stand over height. F*** I can't wait for them to land in the LBS.

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    I've been riding my Fatboy a lot in the dirt since the snow disappeared. Mostly I ride it at the local place which has some technical spots, but mostly its pretty smooth with lots of turns. Its always lots of fun.

    Today I decided to try it out at one of the very technical places nearby. It was still lots of fun, but in the super technical stuff, it was not so much fun. I struggled to make it through spots that are difficult, but rideable, on my RIP9. I even doubled back and tried a few of them times with not much better results. I had a couple of good crashes along the way, no big deal, but...

    I always say that I ride for fun, today's ride would have been more fun on the 29er - just a point of reference I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Looks like good stand over height. F*** I can't wait for them to land in the LBS.
    Def.

    looking forward to mounting some front suspension and a CF seat post.

    Any other must tweaks from other owners?

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    Riser stem - the handlebars will hit the top tube if you crash, I have the chipped paint to prove it. Other than that I think its good to go (I have the Expert).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I've been riding my Fatboy a lot in the dirt since the snow disappeared. Mostly I ride it at the local place which has some technical spots, but mostly its pretty smooth with lots of turns. Its always lots of fun.

    Today I decided to try it out at one of the very technical places nearby. It was still lots of fun, but in the super technical stuff, it was not so much fun. I struggled to make it through spots that are difficult, but rideable, on my RIP9. I even doubled back and tried a few of them times with not much better results. I had a couple of good crashes along the way, no big deal, but...

    I always say that I ride for fun, today's ride would have been more fun on the 29er - just a point of reference I guess.
    Yeah i think there's too much debate on fat bikes vs 29ers. I think their pretty different. One can't replace the other completely. But if given the choice. I'll stick to the Fat.

    Maybe get some 29 or 29+ tires as a second set?

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    I don't think I'll ever get rid of my 29er, so much fun going fast and catching air. Perhaps there are riders more skilled than I (there are surely riders more skilled than I!), but for super tech or air opportunities I'll take the 29er FS every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Riser stem - the handlebars will hit the top tube if you crash, I have the chipped paint to prove it. Other than that I think its good to go (I have the Expert).
    Interesting. Gotta research that. I have the base fat boy so it should have the same symptom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Pretty drastic upgrade from the FB4, which I'm really glad about.
    Care to go into detail on which areas of improvement are "drastic"? Aside from tires, of course.

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    I wrote that immediately after my first ride on the Fatboy, honestly my memory of the FB4 has faded a bit. Some of it is the weight, but I like the geometry a lot better too. I noticed how much more nimble this bike was right off the bat.

    Sorry I can't be more descriptive, its been a while since I sold the FB4.

    I love the Fatboy though!

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    Has anyone put a bashguard on a Fatboy? I scraped my big ring on a rock this weekend and it bummed me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Has anyone put a bashguard on a Fatboy? I scraped my big ring on a rock this weekend and it bummed me out.
    I would like to do the same. Did you see the reply in your other thread in reference to the Race Face Lightweight Bash Guards? Would that work?

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    I don't think it will, but I have one of those on my other bike, so I will try taking it off and seeing if it fits. I think you'd need a bashguard that only goes 3/4's of the way around. There are a couple out there like that, but they are all to cover 44T (i.e. big rings). I don't want to lose that much ground clearance.

    I'll probably get to trying the swap tomorrow morning, I'll report back.

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    Did that fit on your Fatboy?

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    I ordered a BBG 36T bash. I am about 95% certain that I will need to remove that small band that goes by the crank arm. The ring on the Fatboy has a pin sticking out to prevent the chain from falling into that crevice and I think it will interfere with the ring. Hopefully the diameter of the ring is only marginally bigger than the 36t ring - if its more than 1/8" bigger it will interfere with the front derailleur. I'll gamble on $18 and will let you know how it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
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    Do you have a pic of it on your Fatboy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Did that fit on your Fatboy?
    I do not have a fatboy, I did have this bashring fit on a similar crank, the issue was not having a flat surface to mount it to, when you remove a ring from a triple, the spider has a flat surface for this to sit on

    This is easily remedied with some nylon washers that fit over the chainring bolts but drop into the holes where the chainring bolts usually fit, the washer will be sitting on the machined shoulder giving a flat surface to mount to

    this will also give you a smidge more clearance for the front derailer as well

    you may need longer chainring bolts

    the first thing that came to mind was cutting that little part off the back to make it fit the crank if needed, it's cheap enough to not worry about modifying
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    Yeah the ridgeline trails around here tend to be like that. It's hard to see but there is a lot of scrub growth that makes the trail tight when it grows in so it tends to stay moist for longer hence the moss. This year the growing season has been shortened though so it remains to be seen how tight it gets. Usually this would be at full leaf out by now.

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    Finally Bluto!!

    Loving my Fatboy even more now. I9 fat bike hubs and 100mm RS Bluto
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    I told myself I didn't want a Bluto, but to see one on a Fatboy, ugh, its making my wallet twitch.

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    Uggghhh. That BLUTO looks sick!!!! Im jelly. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by evercycling View Post
    Uggghhh. That BLUTO looks sick!!!! Im jelly. Lol
    ya, good thing my tange rigid fork is white. i like white. a lot. if the bluto were white i'd be fvcked

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    ya, good thing my tange rigid fork is white. i like white. a lot. if the bluto were white i'd be fvcked

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    Haha true. I heard that you can only order it in gloss black. That white and flat black are OEM only. Is it true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evercycling View Post
    Haha true. I heard that you can only order it in gloss black. That white and flat black are OEM only. Is it true?
    wait, wha? NOT LISTENING, NOPE CAN'T HEAR OR READ ANYTHING MUST GO RIDE NOW BYE BYE!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    wait, wha? NOT LISTENING, NOPE CAN'T HEAR OR READ ANYTHING MUST GO RIDE NOW BYE BYE!!!!

    rog

    Hahahahahaa. " sees "newmarketrog" haul ass away on his fat. Lmao. "

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    Specialized Fatboy-fs_bluto_rl_wht_a17w.jpg

    "MEGA DROOLZ". Sorry rog. Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by evercycling View Post
    Hahahahahaa. " sees "newmarketrog" haul ass away on his fat. Lmao. "
    PHEW! i needed that. tange rode sooooooooooooooo good and white!

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    Loving my Fatboy even more now. I9 fat bike hubs and 100mm RS Bluto
    Man that looks great

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    F it. I pulled the trigger on a black one! 0___0 ill report back when I get it installed

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    If anyone is still looking for a fatboy my LBS has two a small and large. I read that people were having trouble finding them.

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    So I've ridden an origin 8 crawler and a pigs (bikes friends have) and I see the idea behind them and they felt big and slow, especially for measly 3.8" tires. Met a guy at trailhead today that has fat boy comp.....was cool and let me take it for a short spin.

    Holy crap!!! Big ass tires and yet felt nice and light. Too bad I didn't have the cash I would have raced to lbs and ordered one lol. I'm a trek guy all 3 bikes in my garage are. But being the fact of 4.6 tires stock and how it felt to ride I think im going to end up cheating on my normal lbs hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    So I've ridden an origin 8 crawler and a pigs (bikes friends have) and I see the idea behind them and they felt big and slow, especially for measly 3.8" tires. Met a guy at trailhead today that has fat boy comp.....was cool and let me take it for a short spin.

    Holy crap!!! Big ass tires and yet felt nice and light. Too bad I didn't have the cash I would have raced to lbs and ordered one lol. I'm a trek guy all 3 bikes in my garage are. But being the fact of 4.6 tires stock and how it felt to ride I think im going to end up cheating on my normal lbs hehe.

    Hahaha happened to me buddy. Lol. My lbs owner was cool with it though. Now we are doing bluto, i9 hub, tubeless and a niner rdo seatpost. Im definitely going nutz with this format. Its super fun.

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    hey guys I just got my fatboy expert and love it!!!! I want to go to the lighter weight tubed tire setup to shed some Gs.....which 24x 2.-3.0 tube are you guys using? 230g weight? Thats a nice weight savings. Also Im curious if anyone has upgraded to carbon fiber bars or seat post yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry1me View Post
    I want to go to the lighter weight tubed tire setup to shed some Gs.....which 24x 2.-3.0 tube are you guys using? 230g weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barry1me View Post
    Also Im curious if anyone has upgraded to carbon fiber bars or seat post yet?
    I have upgraded by Fatboy with carbon bars and seat post, XX cassette, Wolf tooth 1x 30T sprocket, Ti railed Phenom seat, X9 shifter and set up tubeless. The thing is a rocket and has caused me to park my S-Works Epic 29er :-)

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    My first mod was putting on Carbon bars. Really helps take the edge off of the small bumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackdz View Post
    I have upgraded by Fatboy with carbon bars and seat post, XX cassette, Wolf tooth 1x 30T sprocket, Ti railed Phenom seat, X9 shifter and set up tubeless. The thing is a rocket and has caused me to park my S-Works Epic 29er :-)


    lol to funny....I have my s works epic 29er sitting also as I am really enjoying this fat boy....only thing I miss about the epic is the 10lb weight shed. I need to drop some lbs.....how did you do the tubeless setup on your fatboy? I would like to try that but I am not seeing a robust setup yet(atleast from what I have heard). What is the weight of your setup now?

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    I did split tube tubeless on my Fatboy. It was pretty dang easy to do (I did have to put a strap around the tire to get it to start taking air and move out into the bead seat). I had one tire go flat when I went to a really low PSI on snow then I rode it on rocky terrain at the bottom of the hill, but other than that its been perfect.

    I ran the Ground Control tires in the snow and moved over to Floaters now - both have worked well - I haven't even had to add air to the Floaters in 3 months of riding them tubeless.

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    Enjoyed a very interesting ride on a spec fat boy today. I suppose it is a medium as they show only 17.5 -S on the sticker. The spec tires are advertised as 4.6" but actually were about 4.2" inflated at around 10 LBS. The LBS said the geometry is heavily influenced by Specialized's road bike design and I noticed this throughout my demo, as the seat was way up in the air compared to the handle bars. (Iam 5.10" and set the seat to about 30+" an inch or two higher than I ride my Fargo due to the low handlebar position) seat was maybe 4" above bar height, which placed me in a perfect riding position to watch the trail immediately in front of the tire - good to see ruts, rocks and stuff on the trail, but to heads down to scout pedistrians walking dogs out in front. Almost ran over a woman and big lab trying to walk the same 4" dirt track I was following, which was a big wake up call for craning my neck up to look ahead of the bike a lot more. Ala riding in the drops - but without the drops... LBS said maybe riding a large would raise the front end a couple of inches which would lower the seat height and make it easier to see!

    Other negative was a LOT of heel strikes on the chain stay- left side. The chain stays are formed wrong in my opinion - they flare out way to soon. I finally adjusted my left foot outward an inch or more on the pedals so my left heel would clear the frame. This wider stance caused some shin and knee discomfort so may be troubling for me personally, as the wide BB is my primary worry, causing debilitating knee pain. Width between outer edge of cranks is 1.5" wider than my well fitted set up on my medium salsa Fargo. Also found the wide bars a tad to wide for my rugged mountain man shoulders, and way to low to the frame to mount mountain drops - my preferred bar style. but they produced a lot of leverage for negotiating tight turns and maybe living through some serious technical downhill. More knarly animals than me could say more about this.

    On the positive side, the bike was easy to ride and the bigger tires didn't drag the molten core of the earth along behind the bike nearly as much as 3" Knards I rode a few days ago. I can see potential in the big floaters for off road adventure biking across desert sage or tundra and similar flora and fauna - maybe a better tire for the purpose than the 4" Nates. They are definitely could challenge Bud and lows in Moonlanders for riding the Rub al Khali- desert sands and big dunes of the empty quarter on the Arabian Peninsula. I do plan to ride a large whenever it arrives here in nonfat land as the price is right and would certainly like to see if a large is a better fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evercycling View Post
    Hahaha happened to me buddy. Lol. My lbs owner was cool with it though. Now we are doing bluto, i9 hub, tubeless and a niner rdo seatpost. Im definitely going nutz with this format. Its super fun.
    Hiya evercycling,

    My local Spec LBS wasn't to keen on adding a Bluto to the medium fatboy he has in stock. Says it would alter the geometry way to much and make it hard to steer. Would be great to hear your experiences with the fork.

    Thanks

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    Interesting ride report. Sounds like in spite of the negatives you still had fun. Cool! FYI the headtube on the large is 15mm longer. You might ask the shop to throw a high rise stem on for another test ride. I would recommend setting the seat height to the same height as your fargo. I think the closer you can mimic your existing bike in fit the better you can isolate what you like and don't like about the test bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalBikeman View Post
    Enjoyed a very interesting ride on a spec fat boy today. I suppose it is a medium as they show only 17.5 -S on the sticker. The spec tires are advertised as 4.6" but actually were about 4.2" inflated at around 10 LBS. The LBS said the geometry is heavily influenced by Specialized's road bike design and I noticed this throughout my demo, as the seat was way up in the air compared to the handle bars. (Iam 5.10" and set the seat to about 30+" an inch or two higher than I ride my Fargo due to the low handlebar position) seat was maybe 4" above bar height, which placed me in a perfect riding position to watch the trail immediately in front of the tire - good to see ruts, rocks and stuff on the trail, but to heads down to scout pedistrians walking dogs out in front. Almost ran over a woman and big lab trying to walk the same 4" dirt track I was following, which was a big wake up call for craning my neck up to look ahead of the bike a lot more. Ala riding in the drops - but without the drops... LBS said maybe riding a large would raise the front end a couple of inches which would lower the seat height and make it easier to see!

    Other negative was a LOT of heel strikes on the chain stay- left side. The chain stays are formed wrong in my opinion - they flare out way to soon. I finally adjusted my left foot outward an inch or more on the pedals so my left heel would clear the frame. This wider stance caused some shin and knee discomfort so may be troubling for me personally, as the wide BB is my primary worry, causing debilitating knee pain. Width between outer edge of cranks is 1.5" wider than my well fitted set up on my medium salsa Fargo. Also found the wide bars a tad to wide for my rugged mountain man shoulders, and way to low to the frame to mount mountain drops - my preferred bar style. but they produced a lot of leverage for negotiating tight turns and maybe living through some serious technical downhill. More knarly animals than me could say more about this.

    On the positive side, the bike was easy to ride and the bigger tires didn't drag the molten core of the earth along behind the bike nearly as much as 3" Knards I rode a few days ago. I can see potential in the big floaters for off road adventure biking across desert sage or tundra and similar flora and fauna - maybe a better tire for the purpose than the 4" Nates. i do plan to ride a large whenever it arrives here in nonfat land as the price is right and would certainly like to see if a large is a better fit.
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    My Ground Controls come out to 4.5" right on the nuts mounted on 90mm rims and a Bluto set to 80mm will be about the same as the existing fork on a Fatboy. And Shoo is correct the stack height difference from a med to a large is 15mm and looking at the geo it looks like it's close to the Carve and not a road bike, are you really sure this LBS really knows what they are doing?

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    Im 5'10 and bought a large, so did my buddy who is the same height. I found it fit better than a medium but it is a tad tall. I installed a 125mm command post and even with the post inserted all the way i cant use the heightest setting. It is a tad too tall! The middle and low setting work geat so I use it as pedal and descend positions.

    I had a Carve not long ago and ran a 120mm fork on it and loved it. Since it has the same Geo as the Fatboy, i plan on running a 120mm bluto on mine. I also went with a 60mm stem (stock was 75mm) and I switched to 720mm Enduro carbon riser bars (25mm rise). It gives me my desired riding position.

    I use shimano clipless pedals so Ive had no issues with heal rub.

    I personally feel the stock geo is a bit too steep and a taller fork would be make it much more capable on the trail!
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    Yep, i did enjoy the ride. Didnt mean to soundto negative, just wanted to layout what my experience was with the bike. I think what I meant to say about handle bar height and riding position is that sitting in the cockpit of this bike seems a lot more like a road bike with the way up above the handlebars, and the bars themselves mounted seemingly fairly low. I am not famaliar with the Carve, but do have an 09 FS stumpjumper, which is a very comfortable bike, yet with a more upright riding stance. Lbs did suggest a riser bar setup, but i am looking for a way to run mountain drops - maybe an On One Midge or a wide salsa woodchipper to support touring and longish days on the trail.

    Bdundee, Interesting about your tire width measurements. I measured the bike myself so pretty sure about the 4.2 measure, although only used a tape not calipers, and might not have looked for the outer edge of the knobs. It was a stock build, doesnt seem there could be that much differnce in manufacturing sizes between individual tires - ill go back and measure again...

    One thing ive thought about is this fatboy frame is rated 17.5", whereas my stumpjumper and Fargo are both 18". I suspect the large, with the 15mm rise and 19" frame will change my riding stance to more significantly upright position - maybe more neutral seat- handlebarposition. The local LBS is exclusively a spec dealer, although they have only had the fatboy in stock for a week or less, and this is the first one they have seen. So probably they dont have much if any prior practical experience with fork substitutes etc.

    Iam thinking about setting up one of mybikes to minic the fat bb width (8" crank to crank) and riding the [email protected]&& out of it to see if my knees will stand up to the wider Q factor- before laying out the big bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalBikeman View Post
    Enjoyed a very interesting ride on a spec fat boy today. I suppose it is a medium as they show only 17.5 -S on the sticker. The spec tires are advertised as 4.6" but actually were about 4.2" inflated at around 10 LBS. The LBS said the geometry is heavily influenced by Specialized's road bike design and I noticed this throughout my demo, as the seat was way up in the air compared to the handle bars. (Iam 5.10" and set the seat to about 30+" an inch or two higher than I ride my Fargo due to the low handlebar position) seat was maybe 4" above bar height, which placed me in a perfect riding position to watch the trail immediately in front of the tire - good to see ruts, rocks and stuff on the trail, but to heads down to scout pedistrians walking dogs out in front. Almost ran over a woman and big lab trying to walk the same 4" dirt track I was following, which was a big wake up call for craning my neck up to look ahead of the bike a lot more. Ala riding in the drops - but without the drops... LBS said maybe riding a large would raise the front end a couple of inches which would lower the seat height and make it easier to see!

    Other negative was a LOT of heel strikes on the chain stay- left side. The chain stays are formed wrong in my opinion - they flare out way to soon. I finally adjusted my left foot outward an inch or more on the pedals so my left heel would clear the frame. This wider stance caused some shin and knee discomfort so may be troubling for me personally, as the wide BB is my primary worry, causing debilitating knee pain. Width between outer edge of cranks is 1.5" wider than my well fitted set up on my medium salsa Fargo. Also found the wide bars a tad to wide for my rugged mountain man shoulders, and way to low to the frame to mount mountain drops - my preferred bar style. but they produced a lot of leverage for negotiating tight turns and maybe living through some serious technical downhill. More knarly animals than me could say more about this.

    On the positive side, the bike was easy to ride and the bigger tires didn't drag the molten core of the earth along behind the bike nearly as much as 3" Knards I rode a few days ago. I can see potential in the big floaters for off road adventure biking across desert sage or tundra and similar flora and fauna - maybe a better tire for the purpose than the 4" Nates. They are definitely could challenge Bud and lows in Moonlanders for riding the Rub al Khali- desert sands and big dunes of the empty quarter on the Arabian Peninsula. I do plan to ride a large whenever it arrives here in nonfat land as the price is right and would certainly like to see if a large is a better fit.

    From your description, it sounds as though the problems you encountered have more to do with the bike fit that with the geometry of the bike itself, particularly your comments relating to your posture, seat height and shin and knee pain. These are all symptomatic of an improperly fitting bike and most likely have little to do with the fundamentals of the bicycle itself. If you were to have been professionally fitted and had the appropriate seat height, bar rise and stem length for your body's size and mechanical dynamics, I suspect your impressions might be quite a bit different. Everyone's fit is different, similarly, not every bike is assembled to the same basic fitting dimensions.

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    I'm 5'11" with a long inseam (34.5), I bought a Large Fatboy, after putting on riser bars and a riser stem I find the riding position to be perfectly fine, I don't notice it to be more "road bike" than my other mountain bikes. I do think that Specialized missed the boat on the front end of this bike - at a minimum the handlebars should clear the top tube! I understand they are shipping them with spacers now, mine came with no spacers, so I couldn't adjust them without getting a new stem and/or bars. I wouldn't expect bike shops to know too much about this bike. I talk to a lot of people and I think the best source of information about fat bikes (Specialized or other) is right here on MTBR.

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