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    Specialized Fat Boy ETA?

    Didn't know you could order the frame alone. Yours looks great , have fun !

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    It was recently added to their website Specialized Bicycle Components

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    Bit of a novice question, apologies in advance. The bike shop that assembled my bike cross threaded the hell out of my pedals, and as it turns out my left side crank arm is completely stripped out.

    In the event that they don't honor the warranty (the shop kid didn't sound too thrilled about it), does anyone know if I can get a regular left side SRAM crank arm to replace the stock cranks on the Fatboy comp? I'd rather not shell out $200+ for a new set of cranks, but it's looking like I'm going to have an argument on my hands at the dealer.

    The specs on specialized's website just say "Custom Samox, 2x10, alloy, 100mm CNC spindle, w/ BB", so I'm not exactly sure what length I'd need, or what might fit up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash04 View Post
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    Why do u think so ? Thx

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    Funny thing is my non-driven crank would not come off even with the LBS mechanic and Specialized did warranty the cranks but I'm upgrade them to E.13
    Did ask Race Face about our BB and this is what they responded;

    We are working on a PF BB for this type of shell as it has become very popular. What people have been doing in the meantime is just running a regular PF30 bottom bracket without the sleeve – mechanically this won’t pose any problems. We do have a sleeve kit for a 121mm shell but it sounds like this is too big for the Specialized Fatboy. Check with your local bike shop when you go to order the cranks and see what they have available – we don’t have a part # for this sleeve yet but upon request we can go grab one from the back.



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    Count me as one of the broken axle guys. Ugh. I'm sure they'll take care of me, but I don't want to be without my bike wah!

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    Count me as one of the broken axle guys. Ugh. I'm sure they'll take care of me, but I don't want to be without my bike wah!
    Hey Jisch, what exactly broke the axle it self?

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    Broken Axle?
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    Ah ok that sucks I'm sure they will take care of it no problem, mine is still at the bike shop awating a new wheel under warranty.

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    It's the piece that the QR axle goes in, I can pull the cassette off with no tools (but the freehub comes with it).

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    I called the LBS today and talked to two people who didn't have a single clue between them. I think they sent my axle back to Specialized and they are going to get a new one. I read on Facebook that Specialized had redesigned the axle (the guy who posted said he was from Specialized and worked at one of their warehouses), so I guess I'll be getting one of those.

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    LBS here had a 2015 release party. they had 1 small fatboy expert on display. i asked when the rest of the stock, including mine, are coming in and they said there was a delay and now its at least another 4 weeks
    this waiting is killing me. i want to go rip up some sand dunes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh-777 View Post
    Bit of a novice question, apologies in advance. The bike shop that assembled my bike cross threaded the hell out of my pedals, and as it turns out my left side crank arm is completely stripped out.
    Sounds like you need to find a new LBS. This is inexcusable.

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    I took the Fatboy out for a spin last night and I still cant believe how capable the bike with a Bluto is. It's ridiculous. It was loose and dusty and my buddies on 6" bikes couldnt keep up on the downhill, and even though my Fatboy was the heaviest bike by far, it climbed up the loose, sandy, rocky trail with minimal effort while the guys on "regular" bikes slipped around a lot.

    I've had fun in sand and gravel and cruising around on the fatboy, but I'm actually enjoying it as a trail bike more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I called the LBS today and talked to two people who didn't have a single clue between them. I think they sent my axle back to Specialized and they are going to get a new one. I read on Facebook that Specialized had redesigned the axle (the guy who posted said he was from Specialized and worked at one of their warehouses), so I guess I'll be getting one of those.
    Have any luck getting the hub/axle replaced? LBS could not get a hub from specialized so they paid to have an alternative hub installed the LBS also installed a surly marge lite wheel instead of lacing up the factory wheel with the hub. I'm a little confused over this on why they could not use the factory wheel. The marge lite is way to narrow for the ground control tire being about a full inch skinnier than the factory wheel. I am happy with the hope fatsno evo 2 hub they installed but a little disappointed over they wheel deal.

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    I talked to the bike shop yesterday - first let me apologize to them for my earlier two people/no clue comment - I dropped my bike off at one of their locations and called the other one, so of course they didn't have a clue!

    I got to the correct location yesterday and they said they called it in and Specialized said they would send parts - the bike shop didn't know if that meant hub, axle or wheel, but they expected to get the parts in today or Monday. I'll report back what I get, and when I get it.

    I agree I would not be happy with a Marge Lite, not cool, I would press for a larger rim or like you said, rebuild on the original rim. When I dropped mine off they said they would much rather get a wheel because they don't get paid to do the repair by Specialized, they only get parts.

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    Put a deposit down on a Large Orange Comp Fat Boy today. Color me excited.
    Anyone have an idea on current lead times? I've seen some of the 2015's here on the forum so I know they exist. :-)
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    Congrats on the new bike! They seem to be trickling in a few here and there, even the orange ones so I don't think it would take too long.

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    My LBS has 3 of them but 2 are the expert and the other one is the black one....no Orange except for the Demo bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh-777 View Post
    Bit of a novice question, apologies in advance. The bike shop that assembled my bike cross threaded the hell out of my pedals, and as it turns out my left side crank arm is completely stripped out.

    In the event that they don't honor the warranty (the shop kid didn't sound too thrilled about it), does anyone know if I can get a regular left side SRAM crank arm to replace the stock cranks on the Fatboy comp? I'd rather not shell out $200+ for a new set of cranks, but it's looking like I'm going to have an argument on my hands at the dealer.

    The specs on specialized's website just say "Custom Samox, 2x10, alloy, 100mm CNC spindle, w/ BB", so I'm not exactly sure what length I'd need, or what might fit up.
    Are you serious? I would demand a new crank. if they dont do this for you call specialized and report them, its a brand new bike and a expensive one at that, if they cant figure out how to put a pedal on a bike they should not be in business.
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    A week after I purchase my bike, tried to remove the non-driven crank (left side) and it wouldn't so brought it into my LBS and they also tried to remove and couldn't so they spoke to Specialized and they warranty the work and also credited my account so I could upgrade to E.13 for a few more bucks, now I'm just waiting for their BB to arrive, the cranks are here but no BB as of yet.

    The LBS should warrant your crank arm or else do like sml suggested, get in touch with Specialized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash04 View Post
    A week after I purchase my bike, tried to remove the non-driven crank (left side) and it wouldn't so brought it into my LBS and they also tried to remove and couldn't so they spoke to Specialized and they warranty the work and also credited my account so I could upgrade to E.13 for a few more bucks, now I'm just waiting for their BB to arrive, the cranks are here but no BB as of yet.

    The LBS should warrant your crank arm or else do like sml suggested, get in touch with Specialized.
    I had a similar problem when I tried to remove my crank on my Camber, I totally trashed, snapping the bolt completely off, the BB was also in bad shape, so I ordered a new one from amazon, got it in about 3 days and this one is way nicer than the sram one that come with the bike, the sleeves are aluminum not plastic and it forms a nice seal. Amazon.com : Wheels Manufacturing PressFit 30 Bottom Bracket : Bike Drivetrains : Sports & Outdoors
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    I really want to like the LBS, I want to want to go there, I do, but there are not many interactions with them (many different shops) that are satisfying.

    I dropped off my bike over a week ago. I called on Wednesday (4 days after dropping it off), guy tells me "we called Specialized they are sending a part" - no idea if it's a wheel, a hub or an axle, "we should have the part on Friday or maybe Monday and we'll call you to let you know when it's ready".

    Cool.

    I call today, "Specialized just called back, we have to take your wheel apart to see which part failed, if its "the one they are having trouble with" we will get them to send us a part", again no idea if that's a wheel, hub or axle.

    I don't think bike shops understand my fanaticism, biking is so much more than a hobby to me. Obviously there are more important things in my life than biking, but not many. Every time I'm in a situation like this I try to convey this to whoever I talk to, very few times does it translate into what I think it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I really want to like the LBS, I want to want to go there, I do, but there are not many interactions with them (many different shops) that are satisfying...


    I call today, "Specialized just called back, we have to take your wheel apart to see which part failed, if its "the one they are having trouble with" we will get them to send us a part", again no idea if that's a wheel, hub or axle.

    I don't think bike shops understand my fanaticism, biking is so much more than a hobby to me. Obviously there are more important things in my life than biking, but not many. Every time I'm in a situation like this I try to convey this to whoever I talk to, very few times does it translate into what I think it should.
    Umm...no.
    It's your LBS. My LBS has a loyal following because they go the extra mile for the customer and biking is an obsession for most of the folks that work there. Once I broke an X9 derailleur (rock garden - my fault). I brought it in to my LBS, they didn't have one in-stock, so they pulled one off a bike on the floor to get me rolling again. You're suffering from a less than satisfactory customer experience IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I really want to like the LBS, I want to want to go there, I do, but there are not many interactions with them (many different shops) that are satisfying.

    I dropped off my bike over a week ago. I called on Wednesday (4 days after dropping it off), guy tells me "we called Specialized they are sending a part" - no idea if it's a wheel, a hub or an axle, "we should have the part on Friday or maybe Monday and we'll call you to let you know when it's ready".

    Cool.

    I call today, "Specialized just called back, we have to take your wheel apart to see which part failed, if its "the one they are having trouble with" we will get them to send us a part", again no idea if that's a wheel, hub or axle.

    I don't think bike shops understand my fanaticism, biking is so much more than a hobby to me. Obviously there are more important things in my life than biking, but not many. Every time I'm in a situation like this I try to convey this to whoever I talk to, very few times does it translate into what I think it should.
    This is why I will not be without a back up set of hoops.
    Perfect excuse to buy another wheelset. Had a similar issue with a hub a while back and would have been off my bike waaaayy too long if not for the back ups.

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    Funny you should say that about spare wheels - I normally have two sets of rear wheels for my bikes. I haven't gotten around to it with my Fatboy (broken axle) and last night the hub in my RIP9 failed (newish frame and I had to get a through axle wheel, and only have the one!). I am without a workable mountain bike for the first time in probably five years? ugh, sucks. I'm going to pay LBS prices for a new rear wheel for my RIP9 just to get back on the dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I really want to like the LBS, I want to want to go there, I do, but there are not many interactions with them (many different shops) that are satisfying.

    I dropped off my bike over a week ago. I called on Wednesday (4 days after dropping it off), guy tells me "we called Specialized they are sending a part" - no idea if it's a wheel, a hub or an axle, "we should have the part on Friday or maybe Monday and we'll call you to let you know when it's ready".

    Cool.

    I call today, "Specialized just called back, we have to take your wheel apart to see which part failed, if its "the one they are having trouble with" we will get them to send us a part", again no idea if that's a wheel, hub or axle.

    I don't think bike shops understand my fanaticism, biking is so much more than a hobby to me. Obviously there are more important things in my life than biking, but not many. Every time I'm in a situation like this I try to convey this to whoever I talk to, very few times does it translate into what I think it should.
    I know how you feel. I feel like I've tried so hard with my LBS over things like this. My problem, I suspect, is that I am in an area where most biking, MTB, road, or otherwise is dispersed. There is no real "local to the trails" mountain bike shop. They deal with every Tom, Dick, and Harriet that wants a bike to ride around the park. Roadies and MTB customers are just thrown into the mix. Plus the employees seem to change with the phase of the moon. I feel like they don't give a crap about me, and I suspect they are starting to figure out that I am trending towards feeling the same way about them.

    This axle thing is starting to worry me. It is seeming more and more likely that I will be dealing with it eventually. I bought my bike at a shop with a bad reputation, based only on the fact that they had what I wanted. Maybe things have changed (with the revolving door of employees) but I wouldn't let their old mechanic make me a ham sandwich, let alone rebuild a fat bike rear wheel. They butchered the last truing job I payed for, and it took longer to fix what they "fixed" than if I had done it my own way.

    Is there an aftermarket hub, or other available part that can cut this off at the pass? I can rebuild my own wheel, but would rather not have to order spokes.

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    I had to travel a bit to get this bike, so I didn't buy it from my "normal" bike shop. There are a few good ones around, and I did try to get this bike from the truly local shop, but he couldn't get one. I have actually heard great things about this shop I'm dealing with, it's not proving out for me.

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    glad i don't sell special-ed if that shop is giving you the straight dope on the back and forth with them. anytime i've had to deal with a confused or clueless warranty guy i just demand the whole wheel. "take a wheel off of a new bike, put it in a box and ship it to me, asap. let's get this customer riding. your/our problems isn't his problem" is how i've handled stuff like this. kona is very cool when dealing with warranty issues. as is marin and quite a few others.

    sorry to hear about this.

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    Yeah, well when I get vague or conflicting answers I always assume there is more to the story than I am being told. It's entirely possible that the LBS never called Specialized in the first case. After what I have heard so far I very little faith in the LBS.

    I had a very similar experience with another shop and a Niner warranty issue. It took them a week to talk to Niner, then instantly accepted that Niner denied the warranty (the LBS did not try very hard, just sending an email to Niner). I called Niner myself and within 30 seconds I had a new frame on the way (to the offending LBS unfortunately).

    All that to say, just because I'm not getting the service doesn't mean the manufacturer is to blame.

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    ya i hear ya there. some shops just don't get it and are still in business by default. i worked for one shop in the early 2000's that was an unbelievable $hit show and i can't believe they're still in business.

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    Local bike store chain in MN raised the prices on all 2014 FB to match the 2015 prices.....lol. I am not willing to pay $2100 for a FB Comp.

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    Any changes from 2014 expert and basic model to the 2015 expert and basic model? Any reason to get the expert over the basic model? Expert looks to have better brakes but what makes it worth the extra $600?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgewater View Post
    Any changes from 2014 expert and basic model to the 2015 expert and basic model? Any reason to get the expert over the basic model? Expert looks to have better brakes but what makes it worth the extra $600?
    Basic model now has type 2 clutch derailleur which is a nice change. 2014 has x7 non clutch.

    I went with the basic 2014 and I'm happy with that. I spent the extra 600 to buy a bluto!

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    Thanks for quick response. That's sorta my thoughts. Put the $600 into bluto. I just don't see any other benefits to the expert to justify the extra $600 unless I'm missing something. I am new to Fatbikes.

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    if i remember correctly, the expert has upgraded brakes, crank, pedals, rear derailleur, and saddle.

    i ordered the 2015 Orange fatboy because i wanted the orange frame, and i can upgrade the parts i want as i go.

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    Well, ended up ordering the 2015 Expert. Can't wait to try it out. First fat bike. Looking forward to riding the beach along the west coast of Lake Michigan! Winter is going to be fun :-) Definitely a good compliment to my Tri training in the off season.

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    Congrats! I rode both a bunch and bought the expert as well. The Experts brakes and shifting felt much better than the standard model.

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    Can anyone tell me what the approximate weight of a stock FatBoy wheel and tire combo? I was just curious. Looked at the Fatboy today, those tires look ginormous. It's such a sweet bike, but I don't have $2,700 to blow right now on a bike I may only ride during the winter.

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    and put a Bluto on it and it might become your main bike!
    I love mine when it is really hardpack and dusty and it is awesome in the mud too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Can anyone tell me what the approximate weight of a stock FatBoy wheel and tire combo? I was just curious. Looked at the Fatboy today, those tires look ginormous. It's such a sweet bike, but I don't have $2,700 to blow right now on a bike I may only ride during the winter.
    lf you buy it, you will ride it year round. They are so much fun.

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    Like a lot of people I now have a Bluto on mine. It's difficult to not take this bike on a ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Can anyone tell me what the approximate weight of a stock FatBoy wheel and tire combo? I was just curious.
    Exact weights of components are:

    Front in grams:

    Hub 248
    Spokes 182
    Ice Disc 132
    Spoke nuts and washers 14
    Disc screws 13
    Rim 807
    Tube 534
    Tires 1457
    Rim strip 55

    Believe me this is more than I ever wanted to know about these component weights.

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    You forgot that Stans, oh that's right is sprayed all over your garage.

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    Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I have a front wheel Weinman 100mm double drilled with On One Floaters and q tubes light inside. I did the bathroom scale test a while back and I think they were well over 8 lbs if I remember correctly. So the Specialized set up looks pretty good.

    The Fat Boy is impressive in person, such a nice looking bike all around. I did demo one a few months ago and liked it alot. Maybe someday I'll pick one up. I was just curious to the weight with the big tires and interesting rim cutouts. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    Exact weights of components are:

    Front in grams:

    Hub 248
    Spokes 182
    Ice Disc 132
    Spoke nuts and washers 14
    Disc screws 13
    Rim 807
    Tube 534
    Tires 1457
    Rim strip 55

    Believe me this is more than I ever wanted to know about these component weights.

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    HA!

    No, not the garage, the kitchen the first time. Approximately 3oz off the floor, 2 off the walls and ceiling and 1 off the dog. Poor pooch. She'll never be the same. Doh!

    Good news is/was there was zero seepage before the 2 explosions...heh heh heh.

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    Glad to help with the weights!

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    Update on my broken axle - bike shop got a steel axle (old one was aluminum) and a new freehub body. Specialized told them that they have had a few (slight under exaggeration I suspect) where the freehub body makes contact with the axle scoring it, then the axle breaks where it is scored. Getting it back today and pretty psyched to get back out on it. While waiting for this repair the hub in my RIP9 failed, I'm an animal apparently LOL.

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    Could you please ask your LBS if the steel axle could be added to the existing hub if it was caught before a failure. I'm just about the worst person to envision the internal parts of a hub without a disassembled one in front of me, so maybe I'm asking for the impossible. But I'm sure I'm not the only one who would happily pay a reasonable amount to prevent a future failure. Even if the eventual failure would be warranty.

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    They were going to take the axle out of a bike on the floor, but decided to wait for the part because the didn't know if the one in the bike on the floor was the new one or not. I already picked up my bike so I can't ask them that, sorry. I honestly don't deal with this bike shop much at all (I only went there because they had the bike).

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    Oh and let me say that I don't think the LBS was at fault here, it sounds like they got a bit of a run around from Specialized. It was less than two weeks end to end, longer than it should be for a known problem, but after talking to the guy at the LBS, I don't think that was based on their lack of trying. Sorry for any prejudicial statements made by me without full knowledge. There are still some good LBSs out there, and this is one.

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    First ride on my Comp at Sandy Ridge yesterday!

    Swapped the stem for a 110mm and went riding. I'll probably do an extra inch of rise in handle bar soon.

    I'm so happy about this bike. I can sell my other hard tail rigs and fund the diet and Bluto for this bike now.

    I bought a Large but should probably be on an XL. I feel that Specialized screwed up a little in top tube heights. I'm happy it isn't all bendy (girl bike style) like a lot of fatties, but a couple cm lower at the seat tube would have me on the XL with a shorter stem and no handlebar swap.

    I thought I'd be able to do without Bluto/suspension but my wrists got a little upset about a couple hits they took while keeping up with a Santa Cruz tallboy



    I can't say my buddy is particularly fast on his new Santa Cruz. I CAN say I'll easily drop him with a Bluto on my rig.

    Really nice riding bike. I found I had to keep front tire pressure in the mid teens to really feel comfortable leaning hard in corners and keep the steering light-ish.

    Woot

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    My wrists got sore when my fatboy had the stock fork, even with carbon bars. No issues after swapping to the Bluto.
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    I replaced so many parts on mine that I had almost everything needed to build another. My girlfriend's birthday is coming up soon, so I got her a frame for an early present!

    Hers is the small orange in the pic and is stock except for a carbon niner post, WTB deva seat, Canfield Ultimate Crampon pedals, and on-one floater tires. I may end up adding a bluto on hers, but this will have to do for now.
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    I have same trouble as @Jisch on rear broken axle :-( no news yet from lbs after a week

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    A week or so ago, the drive side crank arm pedal threads stripped out on me. The dealer couldn't get a replacement from Specialized / Samox (?), so they ended up giving me a store credit, which I used to upgrade me to RF Turbine Cinches. I haven't taken them out on the trail yet, but they're a lot lighter and pretty great looking.





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    That looks great!

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    That's looks awesome. Love the gren on green cobo. Last big upgrade for me is crank! You got me thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh-777 View Post
    A week or so ago, the drive side crank arm pedal threads stripped out on me. The dealer couldn't get a replacement from Specialized / Samox (?), so they ended up giving me a store credit, which I used to upgrade me to RF Turbine Cinches. I haven't taken them out on the trail yet, but they're a lot lighter and pretty great looking.






    looks sick....which BB are you running, and did you compare weights to see what the saving was with the raceface setup?

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    Picked up this bad boy yesterday. First one sold in Anchorage. It's been raining for two days, but I couldn't wait so we went for a little spin today on some single track horse trails.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kay9Cop View Post
    Picked up this bad boy yesterday. First one sold in Anchorage. It's been raining for two days, but I couldn't wait so we went for a little spin today on some single track horse trails.
    Ran mine out bushwacking today too. Looking for some mud flaps like yours. What are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    Ran mine out bushwacking today too. Looking for some mud flaps like yours. What are they?
    Here is a set I made for an experiment for SKS.
    I did a black and a white rear and one white front. I never installed the front on a bike, just on a spare fork to check the fit. I rode with the black rear and it worked well for back spray but does nothing for the bottom bracket area or your feet. SKS took the prototypes to a trade show and showed them to the parent company to try and get them on board for a full blown production run. I expect you will see a similar looking set of fenders by next year from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    Ran mine out bushwacking today too. Looking for some mud flaps like yours. What are they?
    Mine are the SKS Grand DAD and MOM. They don't quite completely cover a 4.6 tire, but the spray only comes off the center any way and they worked just fine. But like gcappy mentioned, they don't work for the BB or your feet very well.

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    Awaiting my Fatboy , Januari 2015 :/
    Would it be worth to swap the Tektro's for Deore's ? I have some Deore's on my shelf , as new. Light weight gain too.

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post

    Here is a set I made for an experiment for SKS.
    I did a black and a white rear and one white front. I never installed the front on a bike, just on a spare fork to check the fit. I rode with the black rear and it worked well for back spray but does nothing for the bottom bracket area or your feet. SKS took the prototypes to a trade show and showed them to the parent company to try and get them on board for a full blown production run. I expect you will see a similar looking set of fenders by next year from them.
    Those look great, gcappy. Real robust too. I can see some issue with the dropper post though. I'd rather have it like yours is on a fixed angle to fit the Fatboy, with dropper specifically, but that would be pricey for SKS to do on a model by model basis. It'll be interesting to see what SKS does with these.

    I'm impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christ D View Post
    Awaiting my Fatboy , Januari 2015 :/
    Would it be worth to swap the Tektro's for Deore's ? I have some Deore's on my shelf , as new. Light weight gain too.

    Thx
    Nothing wrong with textro on my fatbike, but none the less still, still switching to slx.. Was told xt is a waste of extra money since both are the same performance wise.. Lighter too.. I say use the textro.. If you don't like it, put on your deore.. See which is better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    Those look great, gcappy. Real robust too. I can see some issue with the dropper post though. I'd rather have it like yours is on a fixed angle to fit the Fatboy, with dropper specifically, but that would be pricey for SKS to do on a model by model basis. It'll be interesting to see what SKS does with these.

    I'm impressed.
    The problem with the front fender is that it mounts to the unerside of the head tube. Not bad if you run a rigid fork but if you have a suspension fork the fender is way far from the tire most of the time so coverage is an issue. I told them they need to design a mount to the fork that would adjust to any style fork. I don't see that happening but I do believe you will see a wide version of the fenders in the near future especially with the fat explosion this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kay9Cop View Post
    Mine are the SKS Grand DAD and MOM. They don't quite completely cover a 4.6 tire, but the spray only comes off the center any way and they worked just fine. But like gcappy mentioned, they don't work for the BB or your feet very well.
    Thanks! I think they look great on your ride.

    I see a real need for the full wrap rear mudguard. I wonder if there are any out there. I run a Topeak Explorer 29er Disc rack in the rear already so that's kind of covered but I sure would like that seat tube covered. The front mudguard is a go...

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    Had a great ride on the Fatboy this morning, how I love this bike. Nothing more to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Had a great ride on the Fatboy this morning, how I love this bike. Nothing more to say.
    What was your axle outcome. I have the same model.

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    The LBS got a new axle and freehub from Specialized, installed it, good as new as far as I'm concerned. The amount of time it took for that all to happen was a bit frustrating considering it seems to be a known issue, but whatever 2 weeks off the bike won't kill me, it's why I have a back up bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christ D View Post
    Awaiting my Fatboy , Januari 2015 :/
    Would it be worth to swap the Tektro's for Deore's ? I have some Deore's on my shelf , as new. Light weight gain too.

    Thx
    I think the Deore's are what come on the expert model. I thought they worked better in terms of feel and stopping power when I tested them back to back at the LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Had a great ride on the Fatboy this morning, how I love this bike. Nothing more to say.
    Finally got 7 miles in on some advanced singletrack today. Lovin' sums it up well..

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    I upgraded my breaks to XT from the tektro. It was worth it! I am able to charge much deeper into corners and have way way better breaking control.

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    2015 Orange Fatboy Arrived Today!!

    My LBS had told me Specialized was oversold on Fatboys for September, but I received the surprise phone call from them today!

    Loving it so far. No major upgrades at this point. I have swapped in a carbon Easton seatpost, lighter 2.3-3.0" inner tubes, a 90mm stem, and some orange alloy Wellgo pedals I had. In the future I may swap in X7 or X9 Triggers and get a Henge Expert saddle. The comp Fatboy comes with the $30 Henge stock.

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    Sweet looking bike! I wish the orange was availabel when I bought mine.
    I wouldnt be so quick to dump the stock saddle. Its WAY more comfortable then the more expensive Henge seats, and the weight difference is VERY minor.

    I replaced the Henge Expert on my Stumpy with the Henge Sport my fat Boy came with.
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    Got a base 2015 in flat green. Ordered Friday, Aug 29, it was delivered 9/3...ran it through the paces at Raystown this past weekend.

    Waiting on SLX brakes on back-order, but the Gemini's performed decent enough. Had the shop install X7's in place of the grip shifts. Not sure if I have the alum or steel axle - will be checking on that shortly.

    If I have issues with the crankset, I'll probably upgrade to Turbines, but so far so good. The sunrace cassette shifts decently enough, too.
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    raystown is no place for a fatty. raystown is much more fun on a road bike with 700 x 25c @ 100 psi.

    go to laurel for true fatty test/fun.

    fatboy comp rides nice. rode one yesterday. looking down at that 4.6 on a 90mm rim is kinda retahdid tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    raystown is no place for a fatty. raystown is much more fun on a road bike with 700 x 25c @ 100 psi.

    go to laurel for true fatty test/fun.

    fatboy comp rides nice. rode one yesterday. looking down at that 4.6 on a 90mm rim is kinda retahdid tho.

    rog
    Jumps are more fun on a MTB, but yea, it's been done on a cross bike.

    Also have done laurel on my (RIP) Pugs, so very familiar with that. Moraine would probably be more of a test, especially BB clearance.

    I've also ridden a beargrease at Raystown and it just wasn't as fun or as fast as the Fatboy.

    edit: I'm also looking forward to getting the Fatboy out to Apollo - I've ridden the Pug out there, my (RIP) 29er and a friends Mukluk...
    I enjoyed the Pug more than the Mukluk, but then I expect that the Fatboy will be pretty awesome out there.
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    planning to upgrade my brakes to xt from tektro tomorrow.. thinking on 203mm front and 180mm back ( icetech ).. rode hard on the downhill trails last weekend and noticed that brakes were kindda weak.. freakin' noisy as well.. bluto is installed and says max rotor is 200mm.. is 203mm ok on the fork and 180mm ok in the back? will both the frame and fork handle the increase in torque?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pspycho View Post
    My LBS had told me Specialized was oversold on Fatboys for September, but I received the surprise phone call from them today!
    i got the same news about being oversold, so mine is not expected to arrive until sometime in october now

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or View Post
    planning to upgrade my brakes to xt from tektro tomorrow.. thinking on 203mm front and 180mm back ( icetech ).. rode hard on the downhill trails last weekend and noticed that brakes were kindda weak.. freakin' noisy as well.. bluto is installed and says max rotor is 200mm.. is 203mm ok on the fork and 180mm ok in the back? will both the frame and fork handle the increase in torque?
    I use 203f and 180r on my fatboy/bluto with no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sardo Numspa View Post
    i got the same news about being oversold, so mine is not expected to arrive until sometime in october now
    THAT is a bummer. Maybe another will become available for you. I heard that the Black & Yellow Comps have availability as everyone wants the Orange or Green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpd131 View Post
    I use 203f and 180r on my fatboy/bluto with no issues.
    Thanks.. Good to know.. 203mm and 180mm it is then..

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    Any of you buying your brakes from the German site? I got my SLX there. They are down to $111 for a complete set!
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    XT and Zee brakes are cheap too, as are the rotors and all that. I did SLX brakes and 180mm front and rear SLX rotors and was under $150.
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    For those who upgraded from the carbon fork to a Bluto, what did you do about the front axle? The stock axle is a QR 135mm, and from what I've seen you need a 15mm thru axle 150mm for a Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupathingee View Post
    For those who upgraded from the carbon fork to a Bluto, what did you do about the front axle? The stock axle is a QR 135mm, and from what I've seen you need a 15mm thru axle 150mm for a Bluto.
    Bought a new hub and laced it in or buy/build a new wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpd131 View Post
    Bought a new hub and laced it in or buy/build a new wheel.
    Are you able to get the Specialized 15/150 hub or are you buying some other brand?

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    I bought an Origin 8 15x150 hub ($60 or so) and rebuilt my front wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupathingee View Post
    Are you able to get the Specialized 15/150 hub or are you buying some other brand?
    salsa hub from universal cycles.. lbs used the same spokes and nipples..

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    I know this has to have been discussed, but this thread is huge, heh.

    I'm looking at getting a carbon post - I see the RaceFace Next has a 30.9x400mm for about $120. Is that my best bet, or can I get one a wee cheaper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pspycho View Post
    THAT is a bummer. Maybe another will become available for you. I heard that the Black & Yellow Comps have availability as everyone wants the Orange or Green.
    unfortunately, its all the fatboy models. the shop ordered close to 40, various models and sizes, and not one has shown up yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh-777 View Post
    I know this has to have been discussed, but this thread is huge, heh.

    I'm looking at getting a carbon post - I see the RaceFace Next has a 30.9x400mm for about $120. Is that my best bet, or can I get one a wee cheaper?
    Pricepoint has a number of the 2012 and other Easton Carbon models on clearance at the moment. I picked up a Haven on sale a couple of weeks ago for $49. They are all at $59 now: Your Local Mountain Bike, Road Bike, & Bike Parts Superstore
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    I am waiting on the Fatboy SL. My first fatty. Been told October but I am not holding my breath. Patience is always a virtue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    fatboy comp rides nice. rode one yesterday. looking down at that 4.6 on a 90mm rim is kinda retahdid tho.

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    Uh Oh So what did you think of having real tires underneath you for a change

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Uh Oh So what did you think of having real tires underneath you for a change
    for trail they would do nothing for me, nor would 90mm rims. my 80's are overkill which is why i'm going 65mm with my 3.8's. decided to put nice wheels on the charge vs going with fatboy as the charge fits me better comparing large fatboy to large charge, and i do prefer the ride of steel.

    fatboy comp=definitely a nice bike. one of the tops for the money, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    for trail they would do nothing for me, nor would 90mm rims. my 80's are overkill which is why i'm going 65mm with my 3.8's. decided to put nice wheels on the charge vs going with fatboy as the charge fits me better comparing large fatboy to large charge, and i do prefer the ride of steel.

    fatboy comp=definitely a nice bike. one of the tops for the money, imo.

    rog
    I'm going to be test riding a fatboy comp in Stowe on Saturday.

    Hey rog, are you any relation to "Rec Rog" who used to hang out in the NEK during the mid 80's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sardo Numspa View Post
    unfortunately, its all the fatboy models. the shop ordered close to 40, various models and sizes, and not one has shown up yet.
    we have 2 here in escondido,ca (bikebling, check their website).. expert and comp green both medium.. too bad per spesh rules, you can only buy it in-store.. after that, they can ship it anywhere.. some guy had his friend drive all the way from la (2 hr drive) to buy the bike and have it shipped to him in new york.. know anyone here in socal?

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    Sure haven't seen shortages of any Fatboys around here in Mass or NH. I know one shop that's holding around 10 Comps and Ex's. Another with 6 or so. Both within an hour from me. All the colors too. The only dear ones I've seen are the Pro (only ever saw the one I bought) and the SL (never seen one).

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    So anyone else notice a huge disconnect between parts pricing and complete pricing? I am no stranger to bikes and bike building (I currently own 5) and I know that building a bike is always more expensive than buying a comparable complete, but with the Fatboy it's just absurd.

    I was thinking about building up a Fatboy exactly how I want it (2x10 XT, Bluto, etc) and I was thrilled that they sell the wheelset and the frame seperately, but if you buy a wheelset (no tires!) and a frame (w/ fork and e.thirteen crank + BB) it comes out to $2000. For $100 more I can buy a complete with tires (2 @ $160/ea) and stem, bar, shifters, grips, derailleurs, cassette, chain, seatpost, seat, etc, all of which have to be worth SOMETHING. The big downside is I have to deal with an inexpensive (and by many accounts faulty) crank.

    This annoys me because I want to build, but buying the components doesn't make ANY sense financially. I feel like the components are either way overpriced, or the completes are just a really good deal. Anyway, I'm probably just going to end up buying the complete and replacing everything but the frame and wheels...

    That being said, I am really excited because I plan on selling my Moonlander and buying a Fatboy. I can't wait until I can make it happen!

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    Its like that with all brands. They get a huge discount on components because they buy in bulk. Thats why a lot of times it better to buy a full bike and sell off what you dont want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyvt View Post
    I'm going to be test riding a fatboy comp in Stowe on Saturday.

    Hey rog, are you any relation to "Rec Rog" who used to hang out in the NEK during the mid 80's?
    No, i hung out in the nek from the late 90's till around 06' when i sold a second home there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    No, i hung out in the nek from the late 90's till around 06' when i sold a second home there.

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    Gotcha and thanks for following up. Rec Rog was riding mtn bikes in the E. Burke area when I met him around '84. Lost touch with him a couple years later when I moved to the shoreline.

    Looking forward to riding the Fat Boy demo this weekend. Then the big question will be green or orange.

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    enjoy the fb. i'm partial to the orange. it's the total hojo's bike with the orange/blue combo.

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    That's pretty much the story of building up any bike from frame up rather than buying complete unless you have the time to sit and cherry pick deals online/locally while you slowly complete the bike.

    I did that with my Straggler and ended up spending just slightly more than the complete, but ended with a way better build. I took a good few months gathering the pieces for that build.

    I just recently priced out rebuilding the bike if I just went with the best deals I could get online or from the shop and it would be nearly a grand more than I spent.
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    enjoy the fb. i'm partial to the orange. it's the total hojo's bike with the orange/blue combo.

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    Just went into local Spec dealer in Oz and mentioned about the axle problems (mine is ok)and they said to bring it in and they will change it anyway

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    Anyone put 45nrth Dillinger 5 studded on the Fatboy yet?

    What the clearance like in the rear yolk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twimby View Post
    Just went into local Spec dealer in Oz and mentioned about the axle problems (mine is ok)and they said to bring it in and they will change it anyway
    holy crap.. Now i'm worried.. How do you know if your axle is failing? Aside from the obvious.. Any signs i should be looking for? With my bluto installed, i find myself doing jumps on the trails and on the streets ( on and off the sidewalks ).. That couldn't be good for the rear axle right? When i constantly land on it.. Should i be concerned at this point and take it in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or View Post
    holy crap.. Now i'm worried.. How do you know if your axle is failing? Aside from the obvious.. Any signs i should be looking for? With my bluto installed, i find myself doing jumps on the trails and on the streets ( on and off the sidewalks ).. That couldn't be good for the rear axle right? When i constantly land on it.. Should i be concerned at this point and take it in?
    Like I said mine is Ok, but they are going to do it anyway with first service
    Depends what model you have. Mine is a first release Expert.
    Newer ones have the update
    Mine is used more for beach and sandtracks, still prefer my Shinobi on the tracks. Done around 1200kms on the Fatty
    If you go back a page or three in this thread Jisch explains about his breaking, he has Bluto and sound like he goes hard on tracks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twimby View Post
    Like I said mine is Ok, but they are going to do it anyway with first service
    Depends what model you have. Mine is a first release Expert.
    Newer ones have the update
    Mine is used more for beach and sandtracks, still prefer my Shinobi on the tracks. Done around 1200kms on the Fatty
    If you go back a page or three in this thread Jisch explains about his breaking, he has Bluto and sound like he goes hard on tracks
    Yeah.. Bluto makes me go hard and fast on single downhill tracks as well.. I have the black/gold fatboy, purchased barely 2 mos ago... I am assuming when you meant newer ones, you are talking about 2015's.. How can i find out if i have the updated fatboy hub? Someone posted on another thread that when they got their hub replaced, they noticed an allen key hole on one of the splines.. i don't have that on mine.. Can anyone chime in who had their hub replaced if this is accurate? my fatboy is used mainly on trails and streets.. Sometimes on the beach.. No snow.. San diego, ca

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    Re: Specialized Fat Boy ETA?

    I have the black and yellow Fatboy, got it last spring, it'd be good to know of mine is affected. Is there any way to tell?

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    The axle failure (at least on mine) was not catastrophic, I'm fairly certain I did an entire ride with it broken. I could hear a grinding/skipping noise coming from the back end - it almost sounded like my tire was rubbing on the seatstay when cornering hard, but the wheel still spun and I didn't even notice it when I was just riding along upright. I think the grinding I was hearing was the two halves of the axle spinning against each other at certain times.

    I have also broken an axle (actually two) on a Hope through axle conversion (Hope messed that one up big time) on another bike and I rode those broken for many rides. The skewer (or through axle) holds everything in place while riding.

    I'm not advocating riding with a broken axle, just saying that if your axle breaks, it's not going to pitch you over the bars or anything.

    You can tell if your axle is broken by taking the rear wheel off and pulling on the cassette, if it's broken you'll be able to pull the cassette off (the freewheel will come with it). I understand they went from aluminum to steel, but you'd have to pull the hub apart to figure out which you have (a magnet test would prove it). On mine they said they also replaced the freewheel saying that real problem is that the freehub scored the surface of the axle. I haven't taken mine apart post replacement to see if I could see a difference, since I never had the original one apart, I probably couldn't tell anyway.

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    Riding heavy through a extremely rocky section today. Around mile 5 I started hearing a rubbing sound like a whirring. No impacts whatsoever. Kept going another 5 till back at the car. Sure sounds like this axle problem. It's gonna be a 90 minute drive to the bike shop for warranty.

    Last week at a bike shop I saw a 2015 Expert with a totally different rear hub than the ones on all the other Fatboys I've seen. Looks like maybe they are changing the hubs for a new design.

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    Yep, that sounds like the axle broke.

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    Buddy of mine has had his fatboy expert for less than 6 months and has had is rear axle and his bottom bracket go to $hit already.

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    Once in awhile I'll hear a rubbing sound from the rear wheel, like the tire is rubbing on the frame but no marks on the frame and the wheel is sturdy, also I did change my cassette awhile back and did need to use the wrench so I guess it might be just my tire pressure which is at 8 PSI could be causing the rubbing effect while making sharp turns?

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    I doubt it, I bet your axle is broken. I have ridden much lower than 8PSI without any rub - and if there were rub, you would see it on your chainstay. Pulling off your cassette is not easy, I had to really pull hard to get i to come off when my axle was broken.

    I did a 19 mile ride today over technical trails with a fast crew. I did great, I kept getting comments like "that bike seems to just float over everything while I'm back here getting tossed around" (most of the others were on 29er HTs). I think I sold a few Fatboys today :-D

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    Anyone put 45nrth Dillinger 5 studded on the Fatboy yet?

    What the clearance like in the rear yolk?
    Anyone?

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    I wish they would make a stronger freehub on the Fatboy or use a different cassette. I swapped rear cassettes on my 2015 FB (May 2014 build) and the Sunrace had chewed up the freehub after 30 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
    Anyone put 45nrth Dillinger 5 studded on the Fatboy yet?

    What the clearance like in the rear yolk?
    I just put my 45NRTH Dillinger 5 studded tires on my stock Fatboy rims (90mm) and they have plenty of room in the rear stays and yolk.

    The Dillinger 5's (advertised as a 4.8" tire) are actually narrower, shorter, and have more clearance than the stock Ground Control 4.8.

    The paddles down the centerline of the Dillinger 5 look like they will move snow well, and the side lugs are deep and well supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
    I just put my 45NRTH Dillinger 5 studded tires on my stock Fatboy rims (90mm) and they have plenty of room in the rear stays and yolk.

    The Dillinger 5's (advertised as a 4.8" tire) are actually narrower, shorter, and have more clearance than the stock Ground Control 4.8.

    The paddles down the centerline of the Dillinger 5 look like they will move snow well, and the side lugs are deep and well supported.

    Good to know they fit. Dang are they expensive though! Can't find them under $200 a tire at any place that has them in stock.....

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    Received my Fatboy this week and in order to save some weight i swapped out the innertubes for some lighter ones (SchwalbeTube SV 13F Freeride) , gained 800 GR .
    But !! : The Tyre has a woble where the valve comes through , when i put more pressure in it's gone , but with 0.5 Bar (wich i prefer) it's there again. i know the innertubes are for 3.0 max but was told they work very well withe GC's. Anyone has this "problem" too ? Better put the Spesh innertubes back in ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christ D View Post
    Received my Fatboy this week and in order to save some weight i swapped out the innertubes for some lighter ones (SchwalbeTube SV 13F Freeride) , gained 800 GR .
    But !! : The Tyre has a woble where the valve comes through , when i put more pressure in it's gone , but with 0.5 Bar (wich i prefer) it's there again. i know the innertubes are for 3.0 max but was told they work very well withe GC's. Anyone has this "problem" too ? Better put the Spesh innertubes back in ?
    I'm 5'11" 175#. I'm running 26" x 2.3-3.0" Specialized tubes that are about 290g to 310g per tube, and they work fine at any pressure I've run (7 to 11 psi) for relatively aggressive summer technical trail riding (rocks, roots, baby heads) and high speed flow trails.

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    Bit of a novice question here - are you guys greasing under this cap? I had some weird rubbing sound from the back end today and couldn't figure out what the hell it was. When I pulled the wheel off, this cap was loose, and it's not greased at all under it.

    Should I grease this? And just hand-tigthen it before putting it back on? That's the stock hub/axle, i just changed out the rotors/cassette.

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    Specialized Fat Boy ETA?

    Grease it.


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    Brake Question. Have the Expert with the Shimano brakes. A while ago the back brake lost power and screamed like a Banshee. Would improve after warming up, but would scream again start of each ride. Figured pad was contaminated, so changed and problem fixed.
    Had a knee injury and rode for the first in 5 weeks today. Both brakes screamed and no power. Where fine last ride.
    Long weekend here and away from town, so pulled off, sanded and filed. There was a real carbon gloss to them. Scream on front gone, rear half gone, but way less power on both.

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    bb7

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    bb7

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    My mates Moony has those. Don't like them.

    Everyone hates Avids , but my 7's are quiet and have not missed a beat on my Shinobi.

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    my last bike that i had for almost 10 years had a pair. worked perfect 100% of the time.

    my cooker has em now. wonderful

    i'm a 20 year shop guy and can buy any brake dirt cheap. bb7 ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    my last bike that i had for almost 10 years had a pair. worked perfect 100% of the time.

    my cooker has em now. wonderful

    i'm a 20 year shop guy and can buy any brake dirt cheap. bb7 ftw.

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    As a shop guy any input to my question would be appreciated
    Working fine last time I rode. Now doing this. I do a mainly beach riding on Fatty,
    does salt have an influence?
    Always wash it down. But maybe not last time. Tore medial surfing and
    went home in pain, maybe did not wash her down.

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    Great ride on my comp today.

    Went up Arroyo Seco behind JPL in Pasadena/Altadena and the trail has almost completely changed since I was on it 2 months ago. (Monsoon rain changed all the debris and knocked a few trees down I think)

    I bought the Fatboy specifically for the conditions up this canyon (and generally around me in SoCal). Dry super hard pack with a layer of decomposing granite/sand on top.



    I've been riding my 29er with 2.3 tires and just couldn't get grip in corners or climbing.

    The Fatboy CRUSHES this trail (read "I was right!").
    I'd still like a Bluto and will get one when finances allow. But WOW, I rode further in than ever before and came back out faster.
    I found the limit of grip a couple of times (in corners) but even that was totally controlled and recoverable.







    SO, I bought a Large and should probably be on an XL, but XL just felt too big for single track ass hauling.

    This bike is great but here are my perfect world notes for specialized (basically build the XL with the L seat tube/top tube length/height);

    1. Top tube .5-1cm longer
    2. 2-3cm taller head tube
    3. Brakes
    4. 1-2cm higher BB
    5. Better cogset
    6. Trigger style shifters

    I'll work backwards,
    -6 I actually like Gripshift but running this bike rigid gets my hands bouncing all over the place at speed. I know they are cheaper and "for the snow guys wearing big gloves" but they aren't working for me. They'll be changed soonish.

    -5 The gear set is already well documented as crap. I agree.

    -4 My first MTB was a Cannondale SM800 'beast if the east' with a super high BB, I LOVED it. I've had to adjust to lower stuff since, but the thing is mashing my pedals and feet everywhere. Before you say rider error, let me say that it doesn't happen on anything else I own.
    I thought it must be the wider BB but now the I've bottomed the pedal multiple times, rather than just running my toe into a rock, I think it's height not width plus soft 4.6 tires. They went up 10.5mm from the Crave but I think they shorted it by 1-2cm
    I'll air up the tires a bit for now and just be more mindful I guess. Once I have a 100mm Bluto it'll be a little better I s'pose.

    -3 I have tektro Gemin brakes. They suck like everyone says. Maybe 75 miles on my bike and they are stopping just ok. They are , however, very good at squealing, chattering, and the front has a pad constantly riding the rotor. XT I. The near future. I read up above this about Avid BB7 and I don't disagree, I have them on my Slingshot. But I'm riding this thing faster and I do't think they'd keep up.

    -2 -1 The other 2 are just fit issues for me. I'm 6'3" which almost always ends up on the L vs XL threshold when a manufacturer lists rider height. I usually opt for the smaller bike for handling and my semi short legged (for my height) standover issues. The XL was a good fit but the top tube was right up against my nuts. Today when the chain jumped off just as I was digging deep to crank uphill in too tall a gear, would have caused me some groinal distress.

    And finally (sorry for all the words) I bought the 2015 Fatboy "comp". I have read about hub problems on here, mostly on the 2014 I think. I weigh 240lbs without a full camelback and gear. I will be jumping any and every thing I can. I'll let you know if/when the rear axle lets go and what SBC does about it. I doubt things got changed in the hub since the bike is almost identical in every other way.
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    Aren't there 2 pad compound options from Shimano, one organic and one metallic? Maybe switch pads( if I'm not being crazy about compounds options) salt and salt air are bad for everything. The Shimano brakes are supposed to be the end all


    EDIT: check this out...

    http://bike.shimano.com/media/techdo...9830817097.pdf

    those are XT parts but the pads are the same-ish, maybe?

    parts 18-21 show resin and metal pads as options. I bet you can switch and get a good result.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twimby View Post
    Brake Question. Have the Expert with the Shimano brakes. A while ago the back brake lost power and screamed like a Banshee. Would improve after warming up, but would scream again start of each ride. Figured pad was contaminated, so changed and problem fixed.
    Had a knee injury and rode for the first in 5 weeks today. Both brakes screamed and no power. Where fine last ride.
    Long weekend here and away from town, so pulled off, sanded and filed. There was a real carbon gloss to them. Scream on front gone, rear half gone, but way less power on both.
    Last edited by GRpufnstuf; 09-27-2014 at 11:33 PM.

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    6'3? You should be on an xl.

    For going fast, bb7 or any brakes are fine. Brakes just slow you down. Touch em as lil as possible and you'll go faster.

    Nice pics!

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    I've heard both of these before!

    I like fast bikes and fast (stopping) brakes.

    as for height vs size...

    here is an example from Yeti's website...

    bike: SB95c

    FIT


    SMALL 5'3" (160 CM) - 5'7" (171 CM)
    MEDIUM 5'7" (171 CM) - 5'11" (180 CM)
    LARGE 5'11" (180 CM) - 6'3" (191 CM)
    X-LARGE 6'3" (191 CM) - 6'6" (198 CM)

    This happens ALL the time and it is pretty spot on in my experience.

    You can see my 6'3" at L and XL, you don't see my 34" inseam (on a tall day) making me ride the Large even though the top tube is generally too short. Especially since my height is primarily torso and neck oriented.

    The XL rode nice but it didn't really fit the way I needed it to.

    I've always had this problem. part of why I LOVED my old Cannondale SM800 so much. they had ludicrous head tube lengths (for the time) and sloping top tubes when almost no one else did.

    I will be looking for a used XL fatboy frame to swap parts to and try it out down the road.

    For now I am super happy with my Large bike. You know, once I get all the stock parts swapped off it.



    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    6'3? You should be on an xl.

    For going fast, bb7 or any brakes are fine. Brakes just slow you down. Touch em as lil as possible and you'll go faster.

    Nice pics!

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    What he said...

    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    6'3? You should be on an xl.

    For going fast, bb7 or any brakes are fine. Brakes just slow you down. Touch em as lil as possible and you'll go faster.

    Nice pics!

    rog
    BB7 's Work great, This Vid here...
    I am on Stock bb7 brakes, no fancy red pads.
    One finger braking for lock up, and great lever feel for dragging rear for wheelies and such......
    You could up grade pads, but not needed.
    If they Lock up when needed they have all the power you will ever need!
    Again, "Brakes just slow you down"
    I read so many post that say avids Don't have power...makes me crazy!


    Also; I ride an 18 pugs, with a set back post (5'10) spent a few hours on a med fatboy, it seemed right, but am unable to try out a large. The Med did feel a tad tight for long climbs, and the seatpost seemed very high in the sky.
    I will be adding a dropper post, with no setback.
    I too usually go for the smaller size. but, Any thoughts from you guys that spend a lot of time on snow about sizing?? Torn..

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRpufnstuf View Post
    making me ride the Large even though the top tube is generally too short. Especially since my height is primarily torso and neck oriented.
    even more reason why you should be on the xl.

    top tube length/fit trumps standover by a long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightcoaster View Post
    BB7 's Work great, This Vid here...
    I am on Stock bb7 brakes, no fancy red pads.
    One finger braking for lock up, and great lever feel for dragging rear for wheelies and such......
    You could up grade pads, but not needed.
    If they Lock up when needed they have all the power you will ever need!
    Again, "Brakes just slow you down"
    I read so many post that say avids Don't have power...makes me crazy!



    Thank you
    i don't hate my Avids at all. they work fine. And I know cable trumps hydro in the cold cold.

    I wonder if you're weight has anything to do with quality of stopping power and fade though? I am 100% Clydesdale and I can tell you my Avids fade out pretty quick on my 29er Slingshot

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    even more reason why you should be on the xl.

    top tube length/fit trumps standover by a long shot.

    rog
    Not for me. it's not that it's close when I stand over the XLarge, "things" are already touching.

    When I get a Bluto it'll move up more, but then move out of the way more (i hope)

    My bike did drop the chain yesterday and I popped out of my pedals and ended up skating on my cleats while I slowed the bike. That would have been more painful on the XL for sure

    If I were snow camping or doing other slow and steady riding I'd be on the XL

    Longer stem and move the seat back some and I'm happy and comfortable on the Large. my notes to specialized were for my perfect world, straight out of the box fit

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    Hope 's , never failed me even in our wet/snow/freezin' winters overhere in Belgium. Will be the first upgrade i'll do on my fatboy ,from Tektro's to Hope's .Well , after the tubeless thing of course. tho' the Tektro's work well ....for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    even more reason why you should be on the xl.

    top tube length/fit trumps standover by a long shot.

    rog
    Negative ghost rider the pattern is full.....

    I'm in the same boat, the XL fit my upper body perfectly but I had negative clearance (aka soprano) on standover. Since I'm planning on using the bike frequently in the snow, I wanted as much standover as I could get. A Large with a longer angled stem and the bike fits great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kay9Cop View Post
    Picked up this bad boy yesterday. First one sold in Anchorage. It's been raining for two days, but I couldn't wait so we went for a little spin today on some single track horse trails.

    Love them pro's... did you by chance weigh it. Thinking its around 30 lbs?

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    First post be gentle!
    Ordered my first MTN bike this morning a Fatboy but have to wait a couple weeks for a medium green. This wait is going to kill me and my wallet because now all i can do is accessorize until it arrives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin Slow View Post
    First post be gentle!
    Ordered my first MTN bike this morning a Fatboy but have to wait a couple weeks for a medium green. This wait is going to kill me and my wallet because now all i can do is accessorize until it arrives!
    Congrats! Question for you and other Fatboy owners: I am 6'2", 32" inseam and my hybrid bike is a Large Giant Escape. Last weekend I test rode a large Fatboy - felt great! This weekend I went back to a different branch of the same LBS chain, and they put me on a Medium and I was surprised at how good it felt when all the other fat bikes I've been testing have been an L. Tested an L Expert as well and it didn't feel oversized....but have pretty much decided I don't need the extra features. But they didn't have that great orange in a size L, only the M. The sales guy went on about it like "yeah it's a fat bike so the change in size isn't that unusual." The Medium did feel more lively...but worry if it's not the right size, longer rides aren't going to be comfortable.

    Is this normal?

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    I struggled with sizing at 5'10". The medium felt cramped but the large felt great. Problem is the stand over height on the large is just too tight. I went with the med.

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    I'm 6' with a 34.5 inseam, I have a large Fatboy, feels great. At your height and inseam you must have a long torso, I'm surprised a medium didn't feel cramped.

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    Specialized Fat Boy ETA?

    5.6 with a 31 inseam , went with the medium and really happy with it. Especially for the 40+ mile rides .


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    Quote Originally Posted by zaxmalloy View Post
    Congrats! Question for you and other Fatboy owners: I am 6'2", 32" inseam and my hybrid bike is a Large Giant Escape. Last weekend I test rode a large Fatboy - felt great! Tested an L Expert as well and it didn't feel oversized....but have pretty much decided I don't need the extra features. But they didn't have that great orange in a size L, only the M. The sales guy went on about it like "yeah it's a fat bike so the change in size isn't that unusual." The Medium did feel more lively...but worry if it's not the right size, longer rides aren't going to be comfortable.

    Is this normal?
    I'm 6'1" with a 32 inseam and ride a L. I also swapped in a 90mm stem as the 75 felt too short. Took the Fatboy out to some fairly technical trails yesterday and the bike felt great.
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    zaxmalloys a large. that shop tried to sell him a med orange cuz it's all they had.

    i'm 511.5 with a normal torso and a large is perfect, just like their large regular mtb's. no reason to go smaller just cuz it's a fatbike. get the ett/cockpit length that is correct, not so much the standover height. you need more standover height? pick another manufacturer whose frames have lower standover height frames per size.

    stoked to ride this am! wood stove is cranking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    zaxmalloys a large. that shop tried to sell him a med orange cuz it's all they had.

    i'm 511.5 with a normal torso and a large is perfect, just like their large regular mtb's. no reason to go smaller just cuz it's a fatbike. get the ett/cockpit length that is correct, not so much the standover height. you need more standover height? pick another manufacturer whose frames have lower standover height frames per size.

    stoked to ride this am! wood stove is cranking!

    rog
    Thanks for all the input. I'm going to go back today and try it again.

    UPDATE
    Went back to the store today, re-tested a large and a medium. Realized on the medium I was getting up out of the seat often - something I didn't notice yesterday.

    While there was better stand over on the medium, and overall it felt more secure and maneuverable, the more I pedaled it, noticed feeling a bit cramped during normal ride conditions.

    So, I have a large orange fatboy on order...I don't know if I'm more excited or exhausted...
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    Hmm.. I found a large and Med to try out back to back.
    Changed back and forth several time.
    me 5'10 (32 inseam) and lean toward smaller bikes as they are more playful.

    My conclusion.... either of these bike will work for me.
    I would run a bit shorter then stock stem to make the large work, think stock is a 70 mm or a size med and run a bit longer then stock stem, stock is a 60mm. I did order a pro in size Med and will add a 80 or 90 mm stem and it should be perfect.
    This is a year round bike for me and I wanted the smaller feel for non snow fun and of course a bit more standover is a good thing.
    I was really surprised to find that both sizes were totally buyable for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightcoaster View Post


    I was really surprised to find that both sizes where totally buyable for me.
    I had the same experience , went for the M . My measurements are 5.6 with a 31 inseam , like most monkey's , "long" arms and legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightcoaster View Post
    Hmm.. I found a large and Med to try out back to back.
    Changed back and forth several time.
    me 5'10 (32 inseam) and lean toward smaller bikes as they are more playful.

    My conclusion.... either of these bike will work for me.
    I would run a bit shorter then stock stem to make the large work, think stock is a 70 mm or a size med and run a bit longer then stock stem, stock is a 60mm. I did order a pro in size Med and will add a 80 or 90 mm stem and it should be perfect.
    This is a year round bike for me and I wanted the smaller feel for non snow fun and of course a bit more standover is a good thing.
    I was really surprised to find that both sizes where totally buyable for me.
    Sounds like you made a good choice....you're right about the playful aspect of it. Much better control on the smaller one....and I to was very surprised how it seemed either one could work. When I've tested bikes before, it always seemed to be obvious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaxmalloy View Post
    Sounds like you made a good choice....you're right about the playful aspect of it. Much better control on the smaller one....and I to was very surprised how it seemed either one could work. When I've tested bikes before, it always seemed to be obvious...
    I agree with everyone on Med = playful vs. a Large, etc. Next question to ask yourself is how will the bike (primarily) be ridden? I'm looking to do some winter rides/races that will be up to 40miles in length. For that and me, the Large makes sense as I will be more "stretched out." If I was going to use the Fatboy as a dirt jumper, or short single track bike, the Medium makes more sense. As I said earlier, I rode some challenging & technical single track this weekend and the Large was awesome.
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    I am barely 5-10 and fit right between the sized. The large with a shorter stem is a great fit. I generally go medium but i like the extra room and longer wheelbase of the large fatboy. The medium felt cramped.
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    Re: Specialized Fat Boy ETA?

    Quote Originally Posted by roobydoo View Post
    Specialized Bicycle Components

    Did specialized forget they already made a FatBoy? guess since they had the name it got reused.
    Perhaps you've forgotten, but before that cruzer the Specialized Fatboy was a bmx bike.

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    several companies have done that with their fat bike. Its cheaper and easier to use a name you already "own" and Fatboy is a perfect fit. Same goes with the Norco Bigfoot. The Bigfoot was a burly all-mountain hardtail and is now a fatbike.
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    Used Fat Boy Expert for sale (medium size) on C.L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu-Max View Post
    Used Fat Boy Expert for sale (medium size) on C.L.
    the guy sounds like a tool. and he wants too much money for it. 2000.00 max based purely on the fact that he's put his grubby little meat (in his case prolly vegan) hooks on it.

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    I'm stoked the LBS originally said end of October for my Green Medium but now said should be in the next couple days. To have it by the weekend would be great!
    Need to find some pedals and hit the trails.

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    If I buy the fat boy base model how hard is it to conver to thru axle and put a bluto on it?
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    i replaced the fork myself.. Real easy.. Just make sure measure 3x before you cut.. Thru axle hub had to be relaced to the rims and used the same spokes.. It took half a day for a lbs to have it done.. brought it the afternoon after my ride then got it back the next day .. Was riding again that afternoon..

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    So you had to buy new hubs? Or can they be converted?
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    You need a 150x15 hub and you have to rebuild the rim to the hub. The stock hub wont convert.
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    That sucks
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    Cost me $150 for a hub and to have the wheel rebuilt. Really not that bad and worth every penny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesy22 View Post
    That sucks
    10 page thread on the subject right here: http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/fat...ighlight=bluto
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    I put a 150mm Surly hub on to convert, if I was to do it over again, I would buy a 135 Hope hub and get the end caps to convert it to 150, that way I could easily go back and forth to the carbon fork in the winter.

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    Do/will people actually swap back to the rigid fork?
    I considered, but after riding the Bluto, there is no way I'd go back. Even for sand and snow riding I feel the Bluto offers better traction and ride quality. The only thing the stock carbon fork has going for it is the weight.
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    I'm not sure whether I will swap in the winter or not. If I don't then it doesn't make a difference. I love the Bluto so the likelihood of swapping back are low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightcoaster View Post
    Hmm.. I found a large and Med to try out back to back.
    Changed back and forth several time.
    me 5'10 (32 inseam) and lean toward smaller bikes as they are more playful.

    My conclusion.... either of these bike will work for me.
    I would run a bit shorter then stock stem to make the large work, think stock is a 70 mm or a size med and run a bit longer then stock stem, stock is a 60mm. I did order a pro in size Med and will add a 80 or 90 mm stem and it should be perfect.
    This is a year round bike for me and I wanted the smaller feel for non snow fun and of course a bit more standover is a good thing.
    I was really surprised to find that both sizes were totally buyable for me.
    Ok I found out the pro I ordered is back ordered...the kiss of death for a guy with ADD...lol Spent more time on a med and a large, flopped back to a large bought the one they had in stock. It is less playful, but the Large feels right riding and especially climbing, It will take longer getting used to the $%#$ Grip shift then the size. took a bit of vid below of the break in Now for new pedals, cranks, bluto, shifters...etc

    https://vimeo.com/109395581?utm_sour...N8NzcwMQ%3D%3D

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    I'm 5'10 and bought a Large too, it fits great, but I do have two issues. With a 125mm Command Post inserted all the way, the top setting is too high. I also put a 120mm Bluto, which raises the top tube up a bit and I barely clear standing above the bike.
    I do love the longer wheelbase and fit of the Large frame though and have had zero issues.
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    Large fatnboy here, I'm 5' 11" with bluto 100mm and wow did I smash myself in deep snow on a ridge. I think in scared all the wild life away with my blood curdling scream. The stand over height is the only thing I'm not happy with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hans2vt View Post
    Large fatnboy here, I'm 5' 11" with bluto 100mm and wow did I smash myself in deep snow on a ridge. I think in scared all the wild life away with my blood curdling scream. The stand over height is the only thing I'm not happy with.
    Hah! You sir, have posted the first message that makes me happy about my choice to roll MEDIUM. I've had buyers remorse since day two. Unhappy with the compact cockpit. Unfortunately, I'm blessed with long torso/short legs.

    I feel better now.

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