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    Specialised Entry level orange Fatboy vs Felt Double Double 30

    Which would you buy and why?

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    Fatboy all day! Spec on the Fatboy is top notch. Full carbon fork, light tubeless ready wheel set, great tires, and excellent geometry. Excellent drivetrain. Bike is super fun and playful overall a great ride.

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    I'd call it a pretty even toss up:
    Specialized Fatboy has the carbon fork, 2 x 10 SRAM, and the 4.6 Ground Control Tires with light 90mm Rims are great.

    The Felt Double Double 30 has Race Face Turbine Cranks, Carbon Handlebars & Seatpost, Deore Brakes, and 2 x 10 Shimano.

    Weight on both is very similar.
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    It's a tough one????

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    I looked at the entry level Fat Boy yesterday.

    Aluminum fork, cheap mechanical brakes, and x4 drivetrain.

    Retail = 1500

    While I can't compare it to the Felt, there's no way I'd pay 1500 for that bike.

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    The Orange colored Fatboy is actually the COMP, not the SE which retails @ $2,100. The SE comes in Black and a Purple Color retailing for $1,500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dledinger View Post
    I looked at the entry level Fat Boy yesterday.

    Aluminum fork, cheap mechanical brakes, and x4 drivetrain.

    Retail = 1500

    While I can't compare it to the Felt, there's no way I'd pay 1500 for that bike.
    Ok thanks for that.
    The Felt retails at £1250 so a bit less.
    It's just that I got offered a new FatBoy for £1200 so it swayed me a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pspycho View Post
    The Orange colored Fatboy is actually the COMP, not the SE which retails @ $2,100. The SE comes in Black and a Purple Color retailing for $1,500.
    Strange? The orange in the UK retails at £1500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    Sorry? DOH!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pspycho View Post
    The Orange colored Fatboy is actually the COMP, not the SE which retails @ $2,100. The SE comes in Black and a Purple Color retailing for $1,500.
    Ok. I just know I was looking at the low end model....Comp makes sense. It was Satin Black, I believe. Very nice looking bike, but if I bought it I'd end up spending another 1500 to make it worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dledinger View Post
    I looked at the entry level Fat Boy yesterday.

    Aluminum fork, cheap mechanical brakes, and x4 drivetrain.

    While I can't compare it to the Felt, there's no way I'd pay 1500 for that bike.
    I bought one, got a great price, and am very happy. I actually prefer the "cheap" mechanical brakes over the hydro's on a Fatbike. Also, I am switching out rear D and front sprockets for a 1x10 anyhow; so the drivetrain doesn't matter. Both low priced models come with an aluminum fork; it's about a $200 upgrade on ebay (which I plan to do at some point).

    The sway for me were the tires - I wanted something in the 4.5-4.8" range - the Felt has 4.0" tires. That's a $200 upgrade. Also, the felt is a 9 speed..

    So, it depends on what you want. Good luck with your choice
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    I am glad it worked out for you. Like I said, its a damn nice looking bike. I just didn't like the idea that after spending that much I'd definitely be replacing the drivetrain and fork..and the take offs are probably not worth much.

    To be be honest though, my comment was probably a bit harsh. Between the wheels, tires and frame you're probably getting your money's worth out the gate. The X4 stuff was just dissapointing on a $1500 bike.

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    I never said I spent $1500 lol... I got a good deal. Plus my LBS tossed in a rear D (clutched X9) and a set of BB7's.

    To be honest though, the stock mechanical brakes seem to work OK. I usually prefer hydro's but for now I like them.
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    So spec wise the FATBOY is a better bet?

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    I test rode the $2100 version of the fatboy. Great ride and I could tell the difference that the extra tire width made over my 4" fat bike. Carbon fork and hydro's were nice, but I think I'd be just as happy with the alloy fork for the extra $600. And the hydro brakes squeeled like mad. I'd swap them out to some BB7 no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebnah View Post
    so spec wise the fatboy is a better bet?
    without a doubt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    I never said I spent $1500 lol...
    No, I know you didn't. That was the no-budge-price the LBS quoted me! With absolutely no upgrades.

    With the X9 and BB7s I'd have probably went home with it.

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    Depends what tire size you prefer. Also depends on if you would rather a 9spd or 10spd.

    Remember - tires are $100 a piece so it is a big deal
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    I have NOT been all to happy with the Tektro Hydros that came stock on my Fatboy Comp. They are being upgraded this week to SRAM Guide RS and their new Centerline Rotors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dledinger View Post
    I looked at the entry level Fat Boy yesterday.

    Aluminum fork, cheap mechanical brakes, and x4 drivetrain.

    Retail = 1500

    While I can't compare it to the Felt, there's no way I'd pay 1500 for that bike.
    SE is X5 not X4. Which are perfectly serviceable components once setup correctly, same with the Tektro brakes.


    Quote Originally Posted by dledinger View Post
    Ok. I just know I was looking at the low end model....Comp makes sense. It was Satin Black, I believe. Very nice looking bike, but if I bought it I'd end up spending another 1500 to make it worthwhile.
    The SE is perfectly fine in stock form, no need for "another 1500". I agree $1500 is a tad high compared to regular hard tails, but heck literally everything 'fatbike' is high right now.

    I believe the SE to be one of the best Fat Bike offerings on the market right now. The styling and Geometry are fantastic, stock tires are great and can also fit 5" no problem.
    I bike with tires.

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    It's as if a guy can't have an opinion around here. I guess I'm just flat out wrong...$1500 is a STEAL! The best bargain of the century.

    I've got a 15 year old trek 4300 that has better components sitting in my dining room. The bike was free. I'm all for riding cheap bikes...most of my stuff is from BD...but that bike (at $1500) is priced too high for me when considering what you get.

    I agree with you on the style though. It's a very sharp looking ride. Good enough to get me to stop, not anywhere near good enough to overcome the high price tag for low end components.

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    Tell me about it i paid £2600 for a 2015 Scott Scale 710 then spent another £1400 adding better bits.

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    Yep. Upgrades cost money. I don't like paying twice, personally.

    You can get a pretty good idea for the component level just looking at the Specialized website.

    The bare Fatboy frame/fork/crank is $1400 (retail). The Fatboy SE is $1500(retail).

    How do they build a whole bike for $100 over the frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dledinger View Post
    It's as if a guy can't have an opinion around here. I guess I'm just flat out wrong...$1500 is a STEAL! The best bargain of the century.

    I've got a 15 year old trek 4300 that has better components sitting in my dining room. The bike was free. I'm all for riding cheap bikes...most of my stuff is from BD...but that bike (at $1500) is priced too high for me when considering what you get.

    I agree with you on the style though. It's a very sharp looking ride. Good enough to get me to stop, not anywhere near good enough to overcome the high price tag for low end components.
    Settle down padre. No one said you couldn't have an opinion or that your opinion was wrong.

    If you believe 15 year old tech (regardless of level) is better than modern X5/Deore, you are not being honest with yourself.


    Quote Originally Posted by dledinger View Post
    Yep. Upgrades cost money. I don't like paying twice, personally.

    You can get a pretty good idea for the component level just looking at the Specialized website.

    The bare Fatboy frame/fork/crank is $1400 (retail). The Fatboy SE is $1500(retail).

    How do they build a whole bike for $100 over the frame?
    Not really, the frame set comes with the Carbon fork, so apples/oranges.

    Besides manufacturers make the big money from products they design/manufacture, not other peoples products. They have no incentive to provide a cheap frame set.
    I bike with tires.

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    The frame is 15 years old, not the components, sol.

    Yes, it's perfectly clear how they do that. Swap out the stuff that costs money for cheap, low end parts. That's what made my comment rhetorical. I didn't expect it to elicit a response - its already terribly obvious that its done cheapening everything (like the fork)!

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    I get where your coming from. I also agree with you that the whole fat bike thing is way over priced. I prefer to build my bikes but no way was I going to be able to do that with a fat bike (wheels and tires are crazy expensive)

    That being said, I still think for the money the Fatboy SE is pretty hard to beat. I almost bought an Alaskan, but the chainstays are ridiculous in length.
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    So getting back to the topic?
    You all think the FATBOY is a no brainer compared to the Felt?

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    No, I think it depends on what you like.

    FATBOY - bigger tires, reliable mechanical brakes, 10 spd drivetrain.

    FELT - 4.0' tires (if you are going in snow these are prob. better), 9 spd drivetrain, cheaper price
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebnah View Post
    So getting back to the topic?
    You all think the FATBOY is a no brainer compared to the Felt?
    I think so, yes. But I'm willing to pay a few hundred extra to get the bike I prefer. Price isn't everything.

    The tell tale sign for me is this. How many Felt threads do you see here? Now how many Fatboy threads?
    I bike with tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    No, I think it depends on what you like.

    FATBOY - bigger tires, reliable mechanical brakes, 10 spd drivetrain.

    FELT - 4.0' tires (if you are going in snow these are prob. better), 9 spd drivetrain, cheaper price
    On the spec on their website it says hydraulic disc brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardnation View Post
    I think so, yes. But I'm willing to pay a few hundred extra to get the bike I prefer. Price isn't everything.

    The tell tale sign for me is this. How many Felt threads do you see here? Now how many Fatboy threads?
    Good point

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    Just throwing in my two cents
    I bought the Fatboy SE. Why?

    1 tapered steer tube
    2 bluto compatable
    3 190 rear
    4 5 inch tire compatable
    5 drilled/cut rims
    6 geometry
    7 looks
    8 lifetime warranty
    9 dealer support EVERYWHERE.
    There's more I'm forgetting.

    I'm a noob with little fat bike experience but compared 4 inch fat bike in the warming snow this past weekend and was absolutely no comparison to the 4.6 tires. The 4 inch tire sunk in while the 4.6 rode on top.

    Sooo happy I went with the Fatboy.
    Already upgrade brakes to shimano m615 from Merlincycles for $89 USD and can get a carbon fork for $200 USD
    I'll upgrade more when upgrade opportunities arise.

    edit: I should mention that the top 5 on my list is pretty hard to find for $1500 USD

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    I was at the LBS last night and they had a Felt fat bike.

    Geometry wise it felt almost exactly like my Fatboy. Not surprising as the stack, reach, wheelbase and chainstay dimensions are very close to the Fatboy dimensions.

    Outside of that though...

    The bike was heavier and it had cheaper components. I'm glad I went with the Fatboy.

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    This is ridiculous....

    Quote Originally Posted by cardnation View Post
    I think so, yes. But I'm willing to pay a few hundred extra to get the bike I prefer. Price isn't everything.

    The tell tale sign for me is this. How many Felt threads do you see here? Now how many Fatboy threads?
    How many Quiring threads do you see on here? How many Borealis threads? Neither of them will have as many threads as Specialized but they are far superior bikes. I definitley would not base a decision on how many threads you see on here. Back to the comparison, I have a Felt Double Double 30 and it is NOT a 9 spd. Its Deore 2 X 10..At least in the United States it is. Yes, it comes with 4 inch tires but if you talk to your LBS you could swap them out for 5's (4.8) at no charge most likely. It will fit 5's with ease. I can say with absolute certainty that the Felt is every bit the bike the Fatboy is. Its just not as mainstream, which is a plus in my mind.

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    The 70 is a 9spd; your's is the more expensive version. I agree with you, looks like a nice bike. It was on my list until a Fatboy came available at a good price.
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    Furthermore, looking at the US specs, the Felt is equivalent to if not better equipped than the Fatboy Expert which retails at $2700. Also, the Felt is Bluto compatible (as is the Fatboy) and I actually have a Bluto on mine and it ROCKS!!!

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    Furthermore, looking at the US specs, the Felt is equivalent to if not better equipped than the Fatboy Expert which retails at $2700. Also, the Felt is Bluto compatible (as is the Fatboy) and I actually have a Bluto on mine and it ROCKS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    The 70 is a 9spd; your's is the more expensive version. I agree with you, looks like a nice bike. It was on my list until a Fatboy came available at a good price.
    Ahh yes, the 70 spec isnt all that great ...I actually have the 30 spec on the 70 frame + Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonandrew76 View Post
    How many Quiring threads do you see on here? How many Borealis threads? Neither of them will have as many threads as Specialized but they are far superior bikes. I definitley would not base a decision on how many threads you see on here.

    I can say with absolute certainty that the Felt is every bit the bike the Fatboy is. Its just not as mainstream, which is a plus in my mind.
    agreed on all points. And i have no skin in the game.

    I rarely see Felt bikes anywhere (I had a Breed a few years ago), The big S are a dime a dozen.

    Another plus for the Felt....a 150 spaced front fork with 15 MM TA. Meaning, the front wheel is Bluto ready.

    The fatboy would require at least a new front hub, wheel lacing etc.

    Why Specialized refuses to put TA's on their bikes (not just the Fatboy) is idiotic.

    Not sure if the Felt is TA rear as well....another plus if it is
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    fatboy or dd70

    I am in the market for a fat bike and the only one i have ridden so far is the FAT CAAD, i was blown away on how fun it was to ride. but it $2200 and i didn't want spend that much on my first fat bike. I wanted to try the FatBoy but they didn't have a large in stock, but they are offering me a 2016 FatBoy not SE the one that retailed for 1950 for 1500. I am thinking about doing that. But i came across the Felt dd70 and boy thats a sweet looking fat bike, and the guy at the felt dealer say he will give it to me for 1300 but again they didn't have a large for me to test ride. So at the moment i am researching both the FatBoy and Felt dd70 because i have never ridden either one so right now i am just going by the reviews that i am reading. So far it seems like most people have more experience with the FatBoy, so i am kind of leaning towards the FatBoy. However the one thing that is keeping me from pulling the trigger on the FatBoy is that the Felt is Bluto ready and i wouldn't have to change the hub either and according to the guy at the Felt dealer its TA front & rear.

    I ask the mechanic at the Spec dealer how much to put a Bluto on FatBoy he told me $900 thats for shox and hub to relaced etc. with the felt its just a matter of buying the Bluto installed it and your are done and its a lot cheaper being Bluto ready out the box. So i am thing long and hard on this one. The components are cheaper on the DD70 but i guest i could upgrade to a 10 or 11speed Also i have a brand new set of Shimano Hydro brakes on a shelf that i got as a warranty replacement 6months ago for my 29er that i could use on the DD70. So what do you guys think Fatboy or DD70?
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    Choice is dependent on what you'll want to use it for. The fatboy is made for snow and loose stuff with big honking 4.6" tires and a lightweight carbon fork. It would be my preferred winter bike. The felt seems like it's better for dry trails and trail riding with a fatbike where a suspension fork might be useful.

    IMO, I'd rather have the fatboy. It's a true "fat" bike. The felt is a good fatbike, but it could be fatter.
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    Ok thanks, i live in Florida there is a lot of sugar sand here as well as hard pack trails most time i would spend Christmas in NewYork so i am thinking Fat bike for sand and snow. I notice that the Fatboy comes with a 4.6inch tire vs the 4inch on the DD70 And just from reading up on the Ground control tires, they seem to be one of the best fat tire out there so thats a plus i think.

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    My buddy has the entry level FB and he rides it everyday. The only issue hes had would be the freehud going bad.

    I on the other hand have the comp (green one w/ the carbon fork) and its been great. I only ride about half as often as my buddy, so hes put a lot more miles on.

    On the plus side, the LBS warrantied his entire wheel on tje spot. So Specialized knows this is an issue and is standing behind their product. Good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    Choice is dependent on what you'll want to use it for. The fatboy is made for snow and loose stuff with big honking 4.6" tires and a lightweight carbon fork. It would be my preferred winter bike. The felt seems like it's better for dry trails and trail riding with a fatbike where a suspension fork might be useful.

    IMO, I'd rather have the fatboy. It's a true "fat" bike. The felt is a good fatbike, but it could be fatter.
    If you want to go fatter with the Felt you can. It can take pretty much any tire you can throw at it. Plenty of clearance. I almost went with 100mm wheels on mine but decided on the 70s from Whisky as they are more condusive to racing in the Summer. At that price its almost a no brainer. The Fatboy has NOTHING on the Felt other than you will see more of them..yet another reason to go with the Felt IMHO. Get in cheap, and upgrade as you can..I went Bluto from the start and swapped all the components out with the higher end DD30.
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    Ok thanks, so there is a problem with the free hub? didn't know that thanks for sharing. what year FatBoy is yours? I will make sure to ask my LBS if there is still an issue with the free hub.

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    The ONLY gripe I have with my Felt was i could not go tubeless with the OEM rims. My LBS tried everything to no avail.

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    Wow!!!! thats a serious looking rig you got there, how does it ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty 1 View Post
    Wow!!!! thats a serious looking rig you got there, how does it ride?
    It is so much fun i cant even explain...do yourself a favor, and at least go ride a fatty with the Bluto. Any shop that sells Felt may have the DD10 in stock which comes with the Bluto (though its priced at $3k)...you could be rocking the same frame w/Bluto for 1600-$1700 if you go with the DD70 and swap the fork. I know there are a lot of purists out there that say fatbikes dont need front suspension but dont listen to them...just try it and decide for yourself. Its a whole different ballgame

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    So you cant go tubeless with the wheels on the Felt? this is a big deal for me oh man!! what about wheels on the Fatboy?

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    Ok sir will do, just read that you cant go tubeless with the wheels on the felt and thats a big deal for me. But Damn!!!! your DD70 looks its ready to eat up what ever you throw at it. what size tires are you running on it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty 1 View Post
    So you cant go tubeless with the wheels on the Felt? this is a big deal for me oh man!! what about wheels on the Fatboy?
    I hear ya!! Nope, and I wasnt happy about it. Its the rim design as LBS tried many different tires. I ended up going with carbon Whisky No 9s...between carbon and tubeless i shed 3.5 lbs...could have gone even lower but the tires are a little "chunky"....Ill trade a half pound for the grip of the Vanhelga's any day though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty 1 View Post
    Ok sir will do, just read that you cant go tubeless with the wheels on the felt and thats a big deal for me. But Damn!!!! your DD70 looks its ready to eat up what ever you throw at it. what size tires are you running on it now.
    I have 45Nrth Vanhelga's on there now (4.0)...you dont need any more than that other than for deeper snow. I guess you have to decide what conditions you will mostly ride in...I realized Id never want to ride my 29er again so i sold it and this is my year-round MTB. my plan is to throw some 5.0s on my old stock wheelset for deeper snow in the Winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonandrew76 View Post
    I have 45Nrth Vanhelga's on there now (4.0)...you dont need any more than that other than for deeper snow. I guess you have to decide what conditions you will mostly ride in...I realized Id never want to ride my 29er again so i sold it and this is my year-round MTB. my plan is to throw some 5.0s on my old stock wheelset for deeper snow in the Winter.
    Of course the proceeds of the 29er sale went towards upgrading the sh1t out of the fatty. I got a little carried away with the wheelset perhaps.............perhaps

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    Oh ok, man i really like the look of the DD70 especially the one on this thread with the bluto that thing looks like a monster truck!!!! but don't think this stop me from thinking about getting it even though i may need to get a different set of wheels to go tubeless.

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    Ok thats awesome, I am going to look into wheels so i can go tubeless the guy at the felt dealer is Giving me the DD70 for $1300 i am thinking now i could do some some upgrades and come out below $2200 which isn't bad at all. I also realized that the FAT CAAD and the FatBoy in the $1950-$2200 doesn't have a Bluto fork, Man your bike looks like a beast!!!!

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