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    Rohloff + Pugs

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115486767/" title="Red'n Rainey Dew Test Flight by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2667/4115486767_d4e7430960.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="Red'n Rainey Dew Test Flight" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115486273/" title="Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2625/4115486273_58691432fc_m.jpg" width="180" height="240" alt="Speedhub" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115484263/" title="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2734/4115484263_76a37cec4d_m.jpg" width="180" height="240" alt="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115483559/" title="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/4115483559_e58845587b_m.jpg" width="240" height="180" alt="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub" /></a>

    First ride today on a misty wet fall afternoon. A short learning curve on shifting and I think this could be really F'ing Nice!

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    very, very nice. thats what im looking forward to building up!

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    Liking the rack cable routing. I think mine needs a rack.
    Rohloff and Pugsley is a great combo. Your other bikes will be lonely for a while. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115486767/" title="Red'n Rainey Dew Test Flight by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2667/4115486767_d4e7430960.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="Red'n Rainey Dew Test Flight" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115486273/" title="Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2625/4115486273_58691432fc_m.jpg" width="180" height="240" alt="Speedhub" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115484263/" title="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2734/4115484263_76a37cec4d_m.jpg" width="180" height="240" alt="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115483559/" title="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/4115483559_e58845587b_m.jpg" width="240" height="180" alt="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub" /></a>

    First ride today on a misty wet fall afternoon. A short learning curve on shifting and I think this could be really F'ing Nice!
    Hey Gomez, PM with the spec's on the rohloff, and which model you chose alone with the set up.. Is that the brake boss connection? and Dogbone? My shop is in the process of getting this together for me too. Pugs is happy.
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    too sweet. this is first i have heard of someone actually doing it. congrats for pulling it off!

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    Better pics will answer some questions.

    Dogbone plate mating to brake caliper arm:







    That thing must be pushing 40 pounds.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    i like it.
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    Why does the Pugsley use horizontal drop-outs?

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    That a boy. !! ME LOVE IT MUCH ! From what I read about the hub, you only gain a few oz compaired to the traditional driveline., WHO CARES ! My pugs pig goes where it pleases, not XC fast, but still point A to B. CANT wait for my Rohloff too.
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    Do you have to loosen the brake to get the wheel out? Or is there enough room to slide the axle forward in the drops for the torque plate to clear the monkeybone and then pull the wheel out?

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    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4117871683/" title="G-Fiddy by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2785/4117871683_b4ac4f1192_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="G-Fiddy" /></a>


    haven't taken the back wheel off yet......been riding it......will probably never weigh it....have plenty of other (practical) light mountain bikes


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    Last edited by ~gomez~; 11-20-2009 at 06:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    haven't taken the back wheel off yet......been riding it......will probably never weigh it....have plenty of other (practical) light mountain bikes
    What a great quote, even taken out of context. I'd use that as my sig if emptybeer didn't mandate the other crap.

    Nice bike too.

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    Nice rack! I think it's missing a beer cooler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisgardner73
    Nice rack! I think it's missing a beer cooler!

    You know it!

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    Here's mine

    Here is my DeSalvo with Rohloff
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2
    Here is my DeSalvo with Rohloff

    Very Nice! Titanium?

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    Yes it is

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Rohloff Video

    I found a video about Rohloff, it's very interesting...but sorry it's in german


    click here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail
    love the desalvo
    Here's another beauty
    Maybe the owner will chime in...

    THAT IS WAY SWEET !!
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    beautiful

    [QUOTE=~gomez~]<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115486767/" title="Red'n Rainey Dew Test Flight by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2667/4115486767_d4e7430960.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="Red'n Rainey Dew Test Flight" /></a>
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115486273/" title="Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2625/4115486273_58691432fc_m.jpg" width="180" height="240" alt="Speedhub" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115484263/" title="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2734/4115484263_76a37cec4d_m.jpg" width="180" height="240" alt="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4115483559/" title="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/4115483559_e58845587b_m.jpg" width="240" height="180" alt="G-Fiddy with the new Rohloff Speedhub" /></a>

    First ride today on a misty wet fall afternoon. A short learning curve on shifting and I think this could be really F'ing Nice![/QUOTE\] I have two customers who are running this set up and swear by it.

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    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4167001645/" title="Evening Pugs ride in Westosha by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2596/4167001645_f23a1e0dbb.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Evening Pugs ride in Westosha" /></a>

    I've run the Rohloff for a couple of weeks and I have some initial feedback. Once you learn to let off the pedals to shift, the Rohloff works better than any traditional derailleur that I've ever used. We're just starting to get snow in Wisconsin, so it'll be interesting to see how weather-proof the hubs internals will remain. One of the things that I've like the best is when you want to stand up and push a gear, like you would on an ss, the Rohloff drive-train feels as solid as my singlespeed. It has never skipped or popped in any way, shape or form. In the lowest gears the hub makes a slight whirring sound-feel, but other than that, it works very.....almost 'magically' smooth.

    Ohh, and I do, have to loosen the brake to remove the rear wheel.

    More later...

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    Well, looks like all is well with the speedhub / pugs combo.
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    Now that winter is about over in most locales, anyone have seasonal experiences with the IGH ? Good ,bad, otherwise ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by space49
    Now that winter is about over in most locales, anyone have seasonal experiences with the IGH ? Good ,bad, otherwise ?
    I've had two winters [both sand in Baja and snow in Canada] plus a summer of abuse and no issues with my Shimano Alfine in my Pugsley.
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    I have zero complaints on my speedhub'd pugz. We've entered the beach ride season, so we'll see what kind of damage that can do to a IGH.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/4452105041/" title="Pugs Group Beach Ride by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4452105041_193589dea2_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Pugs Group Beach Ride" /></a>
    yes....those are big fat beers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    I have zero complaints on my speedhub'd pugz. We've entered the beach ride season, so we'll see what kind of damage that can do to a IGH.
    If you submerge the Rohloff you'll be in for an expensive repair bill....especially if it's saltwater... But, if we are just talking sand and the odd splash of water on the hub it will do just fine....
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    im RED with envy gomez

    re the rear caliper removal; said this a few times on pugs and monkey threads;
    a hope mono is machined enough at the rear to slip the wheel out without have removing the lower caliper mounting bolt to pivot it out the way... i have the 160 mono on my KM....
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    [QUOTE=
    First ride today on a misty wet fall afternoon. A short learning curve on shifting and I think this could be really F'ing Nice![/QUOTE]

    Put a Rohloff on my Karate Monkey two months and 750 miles ago and absolutely love it. Can't see myself EVER going back to derailers. It's amazing how useful it is to be able to shift 5 ... 8 or even 14 gears while standing still or in an unexpected steep transition on a trail. There's something very satisfying about looking down and seeing that clean. single speed like chainline and NEVER thinking about what chainring you're on.

    I just got a Pug frame and am considering going with the Alfine hub instead of the Rohloff, primarily because of savings. Don't think I need the higher speed gearing the Rohloff provides for the Pug. Can't wait to get it built up and out on the beaches of Kauai!!!

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    go for an alfine..lots of guys here have them already and so far so good for them regaurding reliability....my pugsley gets its alfine fitted next weekend..,im still self learning wheel building via the excellent sheldon brown PDF download so my LBS is doing the swap over...
    ive had enough of derailiers too...useless once filled with clay mud or grass...my KM will eventually get an alfine too..,nice clean uncluttered drivetrain
    i (ahem) ride my pugs through alot of salt water and freshwater-more than most so be interesting to see how it survives.., i reckon the fact the alfine is packed with grease instead of oil will be a major advantage for any water ingress...the shop doing the job have alfine hubbed xc hire bikes and have had no probs with any hubs in nearly 2 years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by coastkid71
    go for an alfine..lots of guys here have them already and so far so good for them regaurding reliability....my pugsley gets its alfine fitted next weekend..,im still self learning wheel building via the excellent sheldon brown PDF download so my LBS is doing the swap over...
    ive had enough of derailiers too...useless once filled with clay mud or grass...my KM will eventually get an alfine too..,nice clean uncluttered drivetrain
    i (ahem) ride my pugs through alot of salt water and freshwater-more than most so be interesting to see how it survives.., i reckon the fact the alfine is packed with grease instead of oil will be a major advantage for any water ingress...the shop doing the job have alfine hubbed xc hire bikes and have had no probs with any hubs in nearly 2 years...
    I asked for a quote from an online retailer on an alfine/Large marge build and they said Shimano is out of stock on Alfine hubs ... they have to wait two months and price is going up $100. I guess they're getting more popular.

    I use my KM for both trail and pavement ... it's nice having some higher speed gears on it via the Rohloff ... but that baby is expensive. It's amazing to me that the suppliers aren't pushing harder to outfit bikes with internal geared hubs. Especially for newbies. And double especially for women. So much less hassle, no dropped chains, easy to clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSLKauai
    IIt's amazing to me that the suppliers aren't pushing harder to outfit bikes with internal geared hubs. Especially for newbies. And double especially for women. So much less hassle, no dropped chains, easy to clean.
    Derailleurs are cheaper/lighter and many people buy based on price/weight so there isn't much benefit to a manufacturer or LBS for equipping a bike with an IGH. In many categories there are IGHs being offered if you care about them enough to select a make/model with one. My GF just bought a Norco city bike with a Nexus 8. Nice bike, but it cost $300 more [better spec + IGH] than the next version down with a derailleur. If she hadn't seen/ridden my IGH bikes I doubt she would have spent the extra $$$.
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    The extra $100 for the Alfine might be because it's the new 11 speed hub? Or just currency fluctuations...

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