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    Recycling/ reusing D5 studs?

    I have a set of D 5's that have 2 full winters on them and the sidewalls are looking pretty rough from all the wear and tear at 2-3 psi and my fat ass squashing them. The tread and studs on the other hand look brand new as I only ride that bike on snow and ice.


    So the question is; can I just cut these studs out and install them on a new non-studded D5, or V Rubber Snowshoe XL, if I buy the studding tool? It would save me around $260 CAD to do it over buying new studded tires.

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    You can easily remove the old studs with the stud tool, no need to cut them out. I removed mine and reinstalled them in Wrathchilds, removing them was easier than installing them.

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    I used some pliers to pull studs out of my Gravdals, but I wouldn't call it easy. Took about an hour to get a third of them out. The most I got out in a row was 15, but usually it would take a few tries per plug and some would fly across the room.

    For me the installation of stud plugs was easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I used some pliers to pull studs out of my Gravdals, but I wouldn't call it easy. Took about an hour to get a third of them out. The most I got out in a row was 15, but usually it would take a few tries per plug and some would fly across the room.

    For me the installation of stud plugs was easier.
    Pliers would be difficult as there isn't much to grab on to.
    Removal using the stud tool is easy and is just the reverse of the installation procedure.
    Use a drop of water to lubricate the stud, press the tool down over the stud until it reaches the base and then angle it 45 deg to pop it out.
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    Yep, get a good stud tool. I like the one from bikestud.com that looks like screwdriver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJDude View Post
    I have a set of D 5's that have 2 full winters on them and the sidewalls are looking pretty rough from all the wear and tear at 2-3 psi and my fat ass squashing them. The tread and studs on the other hand look brand new as I only ride that bike on snow and ice.


    So the question is; can I just cut these studs out and install them on a new non-studded D5, or V Rubber Snowshoe XL, if I buy the studding tool? It would save me around $260 CAD to do it over buying new studded tires.
    No problem to reuse the studs, but unless the sidewalls are torn/leaking bad, I would just ride the tires until they give up.
    A thin coat of rubberized undercoating on the worn sections of the sidewalls (spray available at any Pep Boys, NAPA, etc) or PlastiDip?
    https://plastidip.com/our-products/plasti-dip/
    Plasti Dip is designed to peel off a smooth surface, but a thin coat will likely stick to an uneven surface like a sidewall. Thin coat being the clue here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walloftvs View Post
    Yep, get a good stud tool. I like the one from bikestud.com that looks like screwdriver.
    I have found the ones from 45nth or Bontrager are a bit easier on the hands as they distribute the pressure over a wide area.

    As others say, having a tool is key to making removal very easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat-in-Fundy View Post
    You can easily remove the old studs with the stud tool, no need to cut them out. I removed mine and reinstalled them in Wrathchilds, removing them was easier than installing them.
    You put Dillinger studs in Wrathchilds? I thought the Wrathchildren had different studs. They look larger than the ones on my D5's.

    Thanks for the replies. I'm really not sure these tires are toast, but the sidewalls look pretty thin.

    Espen W, thanks for the advice, I never considered that sidewalls could be repaired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJDude View Post
    You put Dillinger studs in Wrathchilds? I thought the Wrathchildren had different studs. They look larger than the ones on my D5's.
    They come with the XL studs but are available without studs as well, much cheaper and at the time those were the only ones I could find. The regular 45nrth studs work fine.
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    I'm not sure why MTBR thinks replying mid thread is a good feature. I meant to reply at the end. Moved down...

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    Hey I just wanted to update the story in case anybody else wants to tackle this project.

    I transferred all 258 studs from the old tire to a new D5 un-studded successfully. The process was a PITA but worth it in the end.

    To remove studs I started by prying them out with a 1/4" terminating screw driver, and had slow success. I also tried needle nose vice grips which worked at first but then I started breaking studs so I abandoned it. In the end, the tool I found worked the fastest and easiest was using side cutters to cut the rubber lugs off the tire and pull the stud out the back of the hole.

    Installation with the Dillinger tool was straight forward but super hard on the hands. Do this a few times and you'll develop a repetitive stress injury for sure. Wetting the studs in water really helped them go in.

    I have 10 rides on the newly studded tire and haven't lost a single stud yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJDude View Post
    Hey I just wanted to update the story in case anybody else wants to tackle this project.

    I transferred all 258 studs from the old tire to a new D5 un-studded successfully. The process was a PITA but worth it in the end.

    To remove studs I started by prying them out with a 1/4" terminating screw driver, and had slow success. I also tried needle nose vice grips which worked at first but then I started breaking studs so I abandoned it. In the end, the tool I found worked the fastest and easiest was using side cutters to cut the rubber lugs off the tire and pull the stud out the back of the hole.

    Installation with the Dillinger tool was straight forward but super hard on the hands. Do this a few times and you'll develop a repetitive stress injury for sure. Wetting the studs in water really helped them go in.

    I have 10 rides on the newly studded tire and haven't lost a single stud yet.
    You made it WAY harder than it needed to be. As Fat in Fundy stated above you should have used the insertion tool to remove as well. All you do is insert the tool over the stud like you are inserting and press in. Once the tool is seated over the stud rotate the tool sideways and the stud pops right out.

    Inserting studs is much, much easier on an installed and inflated tire.

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    No kidding about doing it the hard way.

    I bought some Wrathchild in 27.5 at a very good price from a LBS, de-studded them, then sold the tires. I then inserted the tires in the 26Ē Wrathchild and saved about $75 of the cost of a pre-studded tire.

    On the wifeís D5ís (my old ones), I removed all the studs and put a 1/32Ē fiber spacer under each one to give it more prominence. I havenít lost one and they grip much better now. Iíve ridden them 2 seasons with no issues.
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