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    A new studded tire from 45NRTH....

    Wrathlordes are a thing.
    And no one is losing the fecal excrement over this?

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    People are gonna be pissed when its not bigger than a Johnny 5. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCheesehead View Post
    Link?
    Are you really that lazy that you couldn't Google it?

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    In the real world.....A new studded tire from 45NRTH....-wrathlorde6528_n.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by rth009 View Post
    People are gonna be pissed when its not bigger than a Johnny 5. :-)
    It's also not 27.5....or 29....or 28.73
    The debate rages on.

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    Yawn, no excrement lost here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Are you really that lazy that you couldn't Google it?
    I did and it did not pop up.

    It is meh inspiring...

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    I'm a tire whore. Can never not get excited when new'ns show up. Love the smell, love the feel of fresh casings, love installing a crisp set onto anyone's bike -- but especially my own.

    These? Not really essited. Can't think of anyone that's asked for anything like this in years.

    They must be out there somewhere.

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    Well thats the weirdest damn size they could come out with right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    I'm a tire whore. Can never not get excited when new'ns show up. Love the smell, love the feel of fresh casings, love installing a crisp set onto anyone's bike -- but especially my own.

    These? Not really essited. Can't think of anyone that's asked for anything like this in years.

    They must be out there somewhere.
    I guess this will be the biggest tire to fit older Pugsleys ???
    It does have a lot ( 300 ) of big XL studs...so it may work well up here in the North East as long as the snow ain't deep...but yeah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    I guess this will be the biggest tire to fit older Pugsleys ???
    It does have a lot ( 300 ) of big XL studs...so it may work well up here in the North East as long as the snow ain't deep...but yeah....

    People run D5's on Pugsleys, on 65mm rims.

    Wasn't suggesting they won't find people to buy these. Any studded tire is good. Just surprised at the direction/sizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    People run D5's on Pugsleys, on 65mm rims.

    Wasn't suggesting they won't find people to buy these. Any studded tire is good. Just surprised at the direction/sizing.
    But you could run this on a 85mm rim....and ...
    I agree. It has me scratching my head....but....

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    Would take them in 27.5Ē


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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    But you could run this on a 85mm rim....and ...
    I agree. It has me scratching my head....but....
    Iím running a d5 in the winter on one is my wheelsets that is only 65mm. It doesnít work great, that tire really loves the 90mm rims. I wouldnít want to give up the cushion of a bigger tire, but the real problem there is the rim size. I just donít really get it. I went J5 for the most aggressive tread and studs, strongly considering the wrathchild. The d5 doesnít suck either, itís a do-it-all tire. Lots of people still run d4s around here on pretty skinny rims, but IME that is pretty limiting in the winter. A slightly bigger tire is only going to be slightly better. For me, itís between the d5 and the wrathchild with their lineup. Both are good mid-fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I went J5 for the most aggressive tread and studs, strongly considering the wrathchild. The d5 doesnít suck either, itís a do-it-all tire.
    I've run the J5 and the Wrathchild on 80mm rims. Both are great in their own way. Wrathchild is superior during melt/freeze and ice, J5 is superior during softer or powder conditions. Both are very functional in all conditions.

    Edit: you're right, the D5 doesn't suck either. I quite like it unless there's a lot of unconsolidated snow on our un-groomed trails. Then I get the occasional washout. But in general it works really well most days.

    I wonder how much the J5 would benefit from wider rims. But I'm not buying a second wheelset so it's an academic question for me!

    I'm wondering if the new Wrathlourde would make a better tire for most conditions than the D4 on my daughter's 2015 Beargrease (170 rear end).

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    It's kind of like the studded and larger van helga I've always wanted, just not large enough? That's a lot of expensive studs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanmoreBruce View Post
    I wonder how much the J5 would benefit from wider rims. But I'm not buying a second wheelset so it's an academic question for me!

    I'm wondering if the new Wrathlourde would make a better tire for most conditions than the D4 on my daughter's 2015 Beargrease (170 rear end).
    I have run J5s on 80,90 and 100mm rims. The tire width only changes a few mm....
    It may make a difference in really soft snow....how much is up to you. But they became a favorite last season in New England for me ( out of multiple tire/rim combos)

    And this new Wrathlorde....may be a good option for a narrower rear end bike looking for a more aggressive tire. Or areas that get a lot more ice than snow.Or maybe not...

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    I want a Johnny 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    I want a Johnny 4.
    not a 4.2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    I want a Johnny 4.
    People would whine that it's only 3.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCheesehead View Post
    People would whine that it's only 3.9
    A newly mounted Wrathlorde on a Specialized 90mm rim measured out to 106mm at 10 psi.
    Irate and sad posts start in 5....4.....3....2....

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    Where's my mm!?!?!?

    If this year were last year I would definitely have picked up the Wrathlordes over the studded D4s. But it is not, so I wont.

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    This 4.2" tire is only 4.173"?

    *rage intensifies*
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Imagine the horror when some snowflake decides to frame a building and discover a 2x4 is only 1-1/2" x 3-1/2" (38mm x 89mm)

    My 27.5 x 4.5 Gnarwhals are ~4.25" when mounted on an 80mm MuleFut, don't care
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanmoreBruce View Post
    I've run the J5 and the Wrathchild on 80mm rims. Both are great in their own way. Wrathchild is superior during melt/freeze and ice, J5 is superior during softer or powder conditions. Both are very functional in all conditions.
    I prefer the J5 for all conditions, especially since I don't have to swap over. It's a lot wider and hooks up in all conditions (since I studded them with the same XL studs). I gave the Wrathchilds to the wife and sold the Dilliniger5's last year.

    Nothing at all wrong with the Wrathchild, I just needed more float.

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    I wonder how much the J5 would benefit from wider rims. But I'm not buying a second wheelset so it's an academic question for me!

    I'm wondering if the new Wrathlourde would make a better tire for most conditions than the D4 on my daughter's 2015 Beargrease (170 rear end).
    You gain about 1/8" width by going from an 80mm rim to 100mm. A friend has to run them on 80mm rims to clear his Big Jon.

    I bet the Wrathlordes would be awesome on any bike that has a width limitation, or for anyone who doesn't need the float.

    The J5 with 80's on the left, 100mm on the right.

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    Was reading on this tire and it has 300studs. Its made for very icy conditions... so not when major float is needed.

    Also new 26Ē vanhelga is 4.2Ē wide:


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    Ouchie at the price.
    Thats expensive!

    Wonder how it would compare to just buying your own studs and installing them yourself. I've seen tire stud packs for bicycles to average $75-$100, not to get confused with a Home Depot run of $10 or stepping up to a Fastener Supply store of $25.

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    On my second set of Bud/Lou. I just add gripstuds.
    Some say in my area we have 10 days of white fat.
    I have 100.
    Fat is about tires.
    Choice is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    Nothing at all wrong with the Wrathchild, I just needed more float.
    Thatís why my Wrathchilds have been gathering dust since I got the J5ís. At 240 pounds I normally need all the float I can get....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    Nothing at all wrong with the Wrathchild, I just needed more float.
    Thatís why my Wrathchilds have been gathering dust since I got the J5ís. At 240 pounds I normally need all the float I can get....

    The stock J5 studs are good, but Iíll bet your custom job with XL studs is griptastic.

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    What psi you rocking and on what terrain?
    Ice, light fluffy powder, hard packed residential road, hard foot steps

    Quote Originally Posted by CanmoreBruce View Post
    Thatís why my Wrathchilds have been gathering dust since I got the J5ís. At 240 pounds I normally need all the float I can get....

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4x4 View Post
    What psi you rocking and on what terrain?
    Ice, light fluffy powder, hard packed residential road, hard foot steps
    PSI? Typically I don't know. I have 2 fancy guages that I rarely use. I carry a Lezyne HV pump and adjust as needed. Trail feedback is my main guide.

    But typically on the J5 I'm in the range of 5-8 front and 7-10 rear for ice/packed snow or summer trails. When it's really soft or loose I just keep airing down and then add some air if conditions firm up. I can run a bit higher PSI in a J5 compared to something like a 4" tire which actually makes the big tires roll better than little tires for me.

    So a 4.2" doesn't interest me personally for winter, unless there was a long nasty icy spell. But if it's that bad I tend to give up and do something else (I've done my share of pure ice riding on skinny and fat studs, I prefer at least a hint of snow).

    If I was a slender young thing I might be quite keen on the new super studded 4.2s.

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    Tell me what the riding is like in Canmore Bruce?

    I have wanted to ride out to Canmore last summer, then do the trail to Banff. Get some fishing in. Maybe check out the nordic center for biking if it doesnt cost too much to ride bikes there. I'd just setup a tent in the bush somewhere with my Bear Spray and bells encircling the tent. It is too bad the Hostel closed down, Canmore sure has changed since I first rolled into oil country.

    I saw some trails going between houses, must go up to the pond. Be good for a normal mtb , my fatty is just for the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanmoreBruce View Post

    So a 4.2" doesn't interest me personally for winter, unless there was a long nasty icy spell. But if it's that bad I tend to give up and do something else (I've done my share of pure ice riding on skinny and fat studs, I prefer at least a hint of snow).
    The thing about when it gets icy and the roots are exposed and everything is coated in ice: Higher volume is better and gives you more "give" before the tire slips on a hard object, so unless it's a flow-trail where you are being G-ed into the trail and it's smooth, a bigger fatter tire helps when it's really icy IME, assuming it has enough studs to maintain grip in the ice. This isn't to be confused with the superiority of a skinny studded tire on ice as far as ice-traction, but when it gets real rough in the winter at slow speeds more volume is usually better and softens things out considerably.
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    This was a major shortcoming of the Dillinger tires and the reason I went to the Wrathchilds, which was before the Johnny5 came out. For our ice and corn snow, the Wrathchild was a much better choice for my wife, and the Johnny5ís for my #210ís.
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    $250 for a studded fat bike tire?!

    45nrth can go pound sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    $250 for a studded fat bike tire?!

    45nrth can go pound sand.
    You must be new to the studded fat tire realm.

    I bought my Johnny5ís for $215 on sale but Iíd buy them full price if something happened to them. Theyíre worth it.
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    Any of these mounted up in the wild yet? I'm looking at replacing a Wrathchild on a HED big deal rim for my bike in the rear.
    weight?
    bead 2 bead?
    width knob 2 knob?
    Width casting?
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    Well Speedway in Anchorage home of the Fatback had one mounted up and it measured out casting width 105mm or 4.13in on a 80mm mulefut and 108mm knob to knob.
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    ^^^ 108mm is 4.25", so true to size for 80mm rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    It's also not 27.5....or 29....or 28.73
    The debate rages on.
    Wut?? No 36"ers??
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