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    What happened to the jumbo Jim's sourced in these

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    Had to take the Big Jon in to the LBS this morning to have a strange noise in the bottom bracket checked out. More on that later. As I was perusing the shop, I came across this little gem.

    Apparently they had a shipping issue with a Heller they ordered for a customer and the Heller was supposed to come with the same components as the Big Jon, so they pulled a bunch of the parts to build up the Heller. THEN they built the Big Jon up with a completely different mix of parts.

    Big Jon frame, Avid brakes, SRAM 1x11 with Race Face Turbine cranks. Surly rims w/ DT Swiss hubs and the stock JJ's. Considering they were asking stock Big Jon $, I'd say it's a pretty sweet little setup. Unfortunately I don't need 2.

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    also a sweet deal with those different parts. it looks like it even has the big cog in the rear. pretty cool . G Y S O T !
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    kingfisher please let us know about the bb noise results.

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    .... I took Mr Big Edward to the trail today and these fat tires kicked my ass ....




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    Yes but you had lots of fun getting your ass kicked ! again I like the big ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0lli View Post
    .... I took Mr Big Edward to the trail today and these fat tires kicked my ass ....




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    Olli that's a cool bike it looks really good in black

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher2011 View Post
    Big Jon frame, Avid brakes, SRAM 1x11 with Race Face Turbine cranks. Surly rims w/ DT Swiss hubs and the stock JJ's.
    Not bad not bad at all. Not too sure about the Avid brakes but at least they've used Shimano rotors

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    I fell in love with the Big Jon the first time I rode it, but I bought it with a special purpose. Make an electric fat bike!

    Still working out the gearing. Stock 46T chainring that comes with the motor assembly isn't great for off road and climbing, however I did get the bike up to 60km/h on a reasonably flat gravel road, the bike is amazingly stable and sure footed at high speeds. The 30T chainring is great for climbing and with my power plus 1600w of electric power I can climb anything as long as I can hold on. I have a 130mm bcd chainring adapter on order that will comes with a 42T and will let me go as low as 38T which might be a good compromise.

    The battery is temporary, it's a 52v 15Ah pack housed in an old power tool bag, the real battery is almost complete. The bike has loads of power, handles very well and isn't too heavy to still be quite maneuverable. I've never ridden anything quite this fun before.

    And if you don't yet have fenders the PDW MudShovels are great on this bike.

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    Love the idea. 60km/h on a gravel road!!!! Very very brave.

    Waiting for Xmas to order my BigJon... Cannot wait to give it a go on the Brit Bike parks during winter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwaudio View Post
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    Holy crap an electric Big Jon

    It must be an animal on the climbs. Nice work!

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    Tubeless Big Jon

    Lurking for a while. Have been on Big Jon for about a year.

    Working on making the rear wheel tubeless to avoid pinch flats

    I'm 210 and ride rocks and roots around 7 psi

    Got the tubeless just about dialed in

    Process = pick a rim strip, I'm using doubled duct tape

    Put a bit of latex caulk in rim pin holess

    Then one wrap of pink sheet foam that is used between a house foundation and sill. Cut to about 2.5 inches wide

    Then wrap to rim edge w gorilla tape

    Almost done
    Had trouble w the valve stem and found if u use a small square of gorilla tape folded over a few times as a washer it seals nice. I did scuff the tape a bit to give it some tooth

    Aired up nicely with a compressor and has been holding air for a week
    Will report back on longer term results
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwaudio View Post
    I fell in love with the Big Jon the first time I rode it, but I bought it with a special purpose. Make an electric fat bike!

    Still working out the gearing. Stock 46T chainring that comes with the motor assembly isn't great for off road and climbing, however I did get the bike up to 60km/h on a reasonably flat gravel road, the bike is amazingly stable and sure footed at high speeds. The 30T chainring is great for climbing and with my power plus 1600w of electric power I can climb anything as long as I can hold on. I have a 130mm bcd chainring adapter on order that will comes with a 42T and will let me go as low as 38T which might be a good compromise.

    The battery is temporary, it's a 52v 15Ah pack housed in an old power tool bag, the real battery is almost complete. The bike has loads of power, handles very well and isn't too heavy to still be quite maneuverable. I've never ridden anything quite this fun before.

    And if you don't yet have fenders the PDW MudShovels are great on this bike.

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    How quiet is that tesla bike ? oops I mean big jon . very cool bike !

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    thanks for being the tubeless test mule. looking forward to the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    How quiet is that tesla bike ? oops I mean big jon . very cool bike !
    Much quieter than the tires. So any noise the system might make is easily masked by tire noise. Passing road bikes with riders in full cycling outfits on the paved trails here in the city might be a better indication that it's not your average fat bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwaudio View Post
    Much quieter than the tires. So any noise the system might make is easily masked by tire noise. Passing road bikes with riders in full cycling outfits on the paved trails here in the city might be a better indication that it's not your average fat bike.
    Ya think? Cool ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narnia View Post
    Lurking for a while. Have been on Big Jon for about a year.

    Working on making the rear wheel tubeless to avoid pinch flats

    I'm 210 and ride rocks and roots around 7 psi

    Got the tubeless just about dialed in

    Process = pick a rim strip, I'm using doubled duct tape

    Put a bit of latex caulk in rim pin holess

    Then one wrap of pink sheet foam that is used between a house foundation and sill. Cut to about 2.5 inches wide

    Then wrap to rim edge w gorilla tape

    Almost done
    Had trouble w the valve stem and found if u use a small square of gorilla tape folded over a few times as a washer it seals nice. I did scuff the tape a bit to give it some tooth

    Aired up nicely with a compressor and has been holding air for a week
    Will report back on longer term results
    Where are these pin holes? I'm thinking of trying tubeless. You used the stock JJ tires and the stock rims?

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    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon

    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Olli that's a cool bike it looks really good in black
    Thanks max - I really like the color combination.


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    Holy nimble!

    I had an idea that I wanted to explore. After 25yrs on full squish, I fell in love with Fat once the Big Jon came out. It is truly an incredible, all season bike. I have seen some posts of fat bikes rolling on 29+ wheelsets and I thought, "what the hell..."

    29x3" Fat B Nimble tires on Surly Rabbit Hole 50mm rims. Specialized stock ft hub and a DT 350 rear hub. I now have the ability to run either wheelset (I added another Praxis cassette and rotors) and DROPPED 2 lbs up front and 2+ lbs in the back! I also really like the tremendous difference the 29+ made in tight areas. There is still the traction of the fat but with added quickness. If you've thought about it, DO IT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Rickert View Post

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    Mason that's awesome

    Have been looking at plus bikes but having seen what you've done I could really go for that it looks like a completely different bike. Thanks for posting

    *goes off to Google Rabbit Hole rims*

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    Meanwhile the RF N/W I fitted when the bike was new has done about a million miles and is more narrow than wide so I decided to replace it along with the original chain. Despite resembling a ninja throwing star the chainring was still holding onto the chain quite well but it was making a constant whirring noise. The chain (all 114 links!) had stretched about 4-5 mm over the entire length so still far from worn out but it looked tired

    I bought a 36T Renthal 1XR and a KMC X10-93:
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    The drivetrain spins like a well-oiled machine again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Rickert View Post
    I had an idea that I wanted to explore. After 25yrs on full squish, I fell in love with Fat once the Big Jon came out. It is truly an incredible, all season bike. I have seen some posts of fat bikes rolling on 29+ wheelsets and I thought, "what the hell..."

    29x3" Fat B Nimble tires on Surly Rabbit Hole 50mm rims. Specialized stock ft hub and a DT 350 rear hub. I now have the ability to run either wheelset (I added another Praxis cassette and rotors) and DROPPED 2 lbs up front and 2+ lbs in the back! I also really like the tremendous difference the 29+ made in tight areas. There is still the traction of the fat but with added quickness. If you've thought about it, DO IT!!!
    This post makes me want a 29+ wheelset in lieu of a Plus bike. Fortunately I have funds for neither. Great looking setup. The 29+'s look surprisingly appropriate on the frame. I was concerned that the slimmer wheel/tire combo might look goofy but it doesn't look that way to me at all.

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    mason that's the best big jon conversion seen to date .very very cool big jon as a 29er plus bike !

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    The local terrain has become very loose and rubbly over the last few weeks so the 4.8 JJs have gone back on. I find them much better in these conditions.

    One minor drawback is they bounce more than the 4.0s so the previously unobtrusive non-clutch XT mech has made its presence known on virtually every step-down or rutted surface by clattering away. It's even more noticeable because the rest of the bike is so quiet.

    So I've fitted a short cage Zee clutch mech (freeride version) to help restore the silence

    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-zee.jpg

    In terms of quality the Zee mech is definitely a step down from XT but apart from the megabucks Saint mech I don't think there's another short cage clutch mech in Shimano's line up.

    The eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed my ghetto hanger bolts. Ever since I've had the bike I've had a problem with the gear hanger bolts easing off and since the wheel axle bolts into the hanger it only has to be slightly loose before I can notice some play in the wheel. I've replaced the original bolts with the bolts from a lock-on grip collar and so far with crush washers and thread lock they've stayed put.

    At the other end another component that has a habit of not staying in place is my Thomson X4 stem. This is weird because I have an X4 on another bike and it's been fine. I can only put it down to the smaller bolts on the newer stem. Anyway it's been replaced by a Renthal Apex which bolts up in a reasurringly solid way and so far has stayed put.
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    Nothing else has come loose

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    Hey max I like your scott stem cap where did you get it ? the renthal stuff is cool.

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    Hello mate the stem cap is from my other Scott, a Voltage FR20
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    How is your bike running

    I've yet to see another Big Jon/Ed on the trails although there are a lot of On-Ones

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    Thanks. Nice voltage max ! nothing on my bike has broke or wore out yet. knock on wood . I see lots of fat bikes out riding but no big jons yet. a lot of people are buying specialized fatboys I see them a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    Thanks. Nice voltage max ! nothing on my bike has broke or wore out yet. knock on wood . I see lots of fat bikes out riding but no big jons yet. a lot of people are buying specialized fatboys I see them a lot.
    Cool beans

    Since buying the fat bike the bike I've used least of all is my long-forked hardtail. In the time-honoured way several components have been liberated and found a new home on Big Jon and this week my attention turned to the brakes.

    I've not bothered until now because the stock 396s have been so good - maybe not the lightest or the most powerful but 100% faff-free. Anyway I was browsing the bike shops and noticed the Zee brakes that were doing nothing on my hardtail have somehow almost doubled in price since I got them so it was time to put them to good use on Big Jon.

    The front one was the right length and it bolted straight on:
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    The rear was was too short so I obtained a replacment hose (BH90 c/w with banjo) and fitted it. If you've never changed a brake hose before it's an epic faff involving syringes and mineral oil and bits of pipe but I got there in the end. Basically the instructions that begin 'Repeat until...' mean repeat until you can't go on

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    I never had any problems with lack of power from the 396s but the Zees are more powerful in a bitey, stabby sort of way. What this means is that the amount of time spent braking is reduced - I can brake later and harder (with the same amount of effort) and be a bit quicker from A to B. One thing I hadn't anticipated is the amount of braking grip offered by the 4.8 JJs. A moderate pull on the levers is like riding into a tree I've never stopped so quick in all my life.

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    Max you forgot to mention the shimano Zee brakes and rotors are also pretty cool looking. when my big jon needs new brakes I might consider some zee brakes. Ive read that they have super stopping power and thanks to you now I know.

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    I just picked up this prologo zero 11 saddle from a new scott foil road bike. I will post a pic with it mounted on the big jon but wont get a chance today.I have had mostly wtb saddles but know a guy that says the prologos feel the best and I rode his mountain bike with a prologo road saddle and it felt pretty good.Im gonna give it a try will let you know.
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    Used to have a Prologo Vertigo Max it was one of my favourite saddles. Sadly retired after one too many accidents

    That Zero 11 looks good it's a perfect match

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    Scott big jon fat bike prologo saddle

    The prologo saddle is mounted and I gotta say its comfortable.I only put 20 miles on it and will probably need a week of riding to break it in to see if it still suits me. is it just me or does a smaller race saddle work better for ones rear end. not much more green stuff I can buy for this thing.I bought some raceface green crank arm end covers but maybe that's going too far. once a hillbilly always a hillbilly.
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    Na. The green stuff looks amazing...

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    Spoke with 3 different LBS's and not one of them even remotely wanted to even check stock to see if they could get me one of these bikes, they just wanted to sell me something else. I went to a fourth shop and bought a Felt DD instead.

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    The sidewalls on my JJ's never looked that good. Ever. Of course, yours wont for much longer.

    Scrambler900, the Felts are super close. You didn't go wrong. I was eyeballing a DD70 and DD30 pretty hard, and could've had either in terms of stock... then I kind of stumbled in to the Big Jon and the rest is history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler900 View Post
    Spoke with 3 different LBS's and not one of them even remotely wanted to even check stock to see if they could get me one of these bikes, they just wanted to sell me something else. I went to a fourth shop and bought a Felt DD instead.
    That sucks whats up with that ? just cause scott won gold in mens and womens mountain biking in the Olympics is no reason for a scott bike salesman to act arrogant like that and not check for you lol. no seriously some of these bike shops are lazy and don't want to help or tell you what they think you should buy.I went to three scott dealers before I ended up buying the big jon because of that. by the way I was going to buy a felt dd30 if I wouldn't of found the scott fat bike.what dd did you get ? felts have nice fat bikes. send us a pic of the felt fat bike if you get a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    That sucks whats up with that ? just cause scott won gold in mens and womens mountain biking in the Olympics is no reason for a scott bike salesman to act arrogant like that and not check for you lol. no seriously some of these bike shops are lazy and don't want to help or tell you what they think you should buy.I went to three scott dealers before I ended up buying the big jon because of that. by the way I was going to buy a felt dd30 if I wouldn't of found the scott fat bike.what dd did



    you get ? felts have nice fat bikes. send us a pic of the felt fat bike if you get a chance.

    I went with the 2016 DD70 close out for $999. I was thinking a 30 closeout but that blue color I couldn't deal with. I am still ahead as all I am gong to change on the 70 is the brakes and call it good. It is a 3rd bike in the stable so don't want to dump a bunch of $$.

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    The dd70 is a great bike congrats !

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    Does anyone know anything or seen pics of the 2017 scott big jon and big ed ? Ive been checking the interwebs and couldn't find anything yet. I wonder if there will be any upgrades or different frame colors for the scott fat bikes. maybe the big jon will get some mule fat tubeless ready rims this year. felt shows the 2017 fat bikes with major color changes. the 2017 trek Farley is on the web and some specialized ,Norco and a few other 2017s are showing up. for 2017 cannondale has a fat caad 3 fat bike aqua blue in color.they have a fat caad 1 and 2 now but this must be cannondales third fat bike offering.

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    I have the original saddle on my Scott Big Ed and I think they also call that thing the "Goblin Cleaver" - because it will chop your nuts off - no padding, just some plastic tarp wrapped around some hard plastic - but hey, it's green




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    Keep those nuts !

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    I have the original saddle on my Scott Big Ed and I think they also call that thing the "Goblin Cleaver" - because it will chop your nuts off - no padding, just some plastic tarp wrapped around some hard plastic - but hey, it's green




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    I think its time for you to look at some wtb saddles with a little more padding.less is more for me I like the race saddles. long live the nuts.Nice big ed .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    I think its time for you to look at some wtb saddles with a little more padding.less is more for me I like the race saddles. long live the nuts.Nice big ed .

    Yep, I like my wtb on my niner RIP - I think I found one that fits the color scheme of my Big Eduard

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    Does anyone know anything or seen pics of the 2017 scott big jon and big ed ?
    This has appeared on some of the UK websites
    SCOTT Big Jon 2017 :: £1299.00 :: BIKES :: Fat Bikes / Plus Size :: Evolution Cycles Eastbourne Sussex

    Looks good

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    Max you are the man ! Thank you . Ive been searching the web high and low and couldn't find anything. I think I like the 2016 bj with green better but not sure yet. the specs have the weight down a little on the 2017 but it looks like the same specs as the 2016 .again thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    Max you are the man ! Thank you . Ive been searching the web high and low and couldn't find anything. I think I like the 2016 bj with green better but not sure yet. the specs have the weight down a little on the 2017 but it looks like the same specs as the 2016 .again thanks.
    +1 I think we bought at the right time. The 2017 looks sharp, but it's not the eye-popper that the 2016 is. I also see they they don't have an Ed listed at all. Not sure if it's TBA, or if they dropped it. Looks like they've expanded the Plus lineup with some new offerings and they're aligning better with some of the other plus bikes out there with a slacker head angle. Probably a lot of fun.

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    Must admit I prefer the grey/green although the 2015 model looked pretty good as well.

    Looks like the 2017 bike has a curved fork

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    That fork does look curved now that you mentioned it ?

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    Looking at the blown up picture on the website I think it has more of a rounded shape vs. the angular profile of the 2016 but overall vertical angle is the same. I think it just looks like it's not, because the shape of the tubing (internet guessing lol).

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    No big ed for 2017

    I just talked to my local scott dealer and he said that the big ed is done.only the big jon will be available in 2017. if you were thinking about buying a 2016 big ed left on the dealer floor you probably better buy it. Im taking his word for it but he said he did talk to scott sports about it ?

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    Over here Ed retails for about £1700 which is insane for an X7 hardtail even if it does have fat tyres. Based on my year of ownership no one believes a fat bike can be anything other than a snow/sand machine and the future of trail/dirt fat bikes like Big Ed/Jon looks bleak.

    There are also a number of car/outdoor lifestyle retailers who sell fat bikes for around £500 which is ideal for people who are fat-curious but don't want to spend enthusiast money.

    How niche are we
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    fat bikes sales were awful in the us because half of the country had hardly any snow this past winter. it was a very mild winter. from what some dealers are saying is they have plenty of 2016 fat bike inventory left heck even some leftover 15s. because of this it looks like most of the bike companies have scaled back the number of different models. even surly bikes has only three 4 inch or over fat bikes to offer. not all bike companies are scaling back but looks to be a trend.as far as here in the us more people with fat bikes Ive talked to have been riding fat bikes year round. I know one thing for sure my big jon wont win a race against a 27.5 or 29er but it will leave my old cannondale f700 in the dust.
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    I had a big jon on pre order for xmas, (UK based) and just canceled... Going for a Cannondale Cujo or a Beast Of the East (27.5+, 3 inch tires...) I do 99% XC, so I want the extra width but ended up not pulling the trigger on the big jon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkk View Post
    Going for a Cannondale Cujo or a Beast Of the East (27.5+, 3 inch tires...)
    Have seen so many plus bikes this year they really seem to have taken off

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    I agree they have taken off and they are getting better.I was lucky enough to ride a jamis dragonslayer plus bike its a great bike.since Im only riding a fat bike now the jamis plus bike was quicker and lighter but the big jon fat bike has more of a fun factor to it. Im getting older and like the not tempted to go faster than the other guys on the trail or path with the fat bike. you see more and more plus bikes out there so they are hot right now hell people will probably be racing plus bikes even with 3.50 tires in the future lol.

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    Simply build a plus wheelset for your Jon's... It transformed my bike!

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    Mason your bike is awesome ! I do have that option in the future. I will have to buy everthing to do the conversion as I don't have any extra parts etc... I don't want to be a pain but how expensive and tough was the conversion ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Have seen so many plus bikes this year they really seem to have taken off
    They have as they are an amazing compromise. I tried the Cannondale and I'm sold!

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    Honestly, WAY less than adding another bike. Granted, I work at an LBS so I have that going but at retail, you could be between $500 and $800 depending on hubs, rims spokes...

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    Thanks again.

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    Darkk if you get a chance post some pics of the cdale.

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    Will do as soon as it arrives...

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    Bike pics are always welcome

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    I'm always short on that, as I never take my phone on the trail with me, I only have pics at home. The amount of times I hit the ground after running out of skills mid corner/jump/berm is incredible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkk View Post
    The amount of times I hit the ground after running out of skills mid corner/jump/berm is incredible!
    Funniest thing I've read all week. Thank goodness it's not just me! lol

    I hope that fat bikes gain more of a following around here for trail work etc. if for no other reason but it keeps the industry spinning. My Big Jon still draws a crowd every time I take it out... and not just the crowd that forms to check on you post-crash. Just a quick glance at the mfgs looks like the Plus offerings have just about doubled. Totally makes sense (to me anyway), but I'd still like to see the fatties gain some market share.

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    2017 scott big jon

    If anyone bought the new 2017 big jon don't be shy please post some pics and tell us about it. Im not shy about posting pics .
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    2017 scott big jon fat bike real photo

    I saw this pic on the web from the Yakima bike rack exhibit at the interbike show. the new big jon looks a lot better than I thought. you cant tell how cool something looks from a standard web rendering brochure pic. seeing this bike in a actual photo wow ! its pretty cool. the front fork is smoother and more rounded for sure. for a better clearer pic you can enlarge of the 2017 big jon at the show plus other cool new fat bike stuff click on the link below. Max gnarcore will be buying the renthal uk colors riser bars lol scroll down to photo 15 after you clink on the link below


    https://fat-bike.com/2016/09/fresh-f...nterbike-2016/
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    Must admit it does look pretty good in those colours although I'm not entirely sure about the fork. The straight-bladed fabricated fork was one of the things I liked most of all about last year's Big Jon

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    Max gnarcore will be buying the renthal uk colors riser bars lol
    lol

    I'm going to have to think it bud
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    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-scottrideon3-026.jpg

    btw how are you getting on with the Prologo saddle?

    It looks great

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    saddle great chain not

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    It looks great
    the saddle has worked out great.super long rides have been surprisingly very good. sadly just broke my chain.Im checking into a kmc x10 sl superlight green color matching chain.will post when I get one. by the way max a blue riser bar will match the big jons neon green just fine.

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    scott big jon fat bike new chain

    I just put a kmc x10 sl superlight chain on.its green and black and is supposed to be a great chain.I also ditched the bash guard.
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    That looks great! Any word on the '17 availability?

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    It does... A '16 will be perfect next to the Cannondales.. Have to find a way to convince my other half that 3 bikes are better than 2!

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    Some shops have got the new 17 big jon in stock.they for sure can be ordered now.saw some pics of people with em on instagram.

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    Tell her you need the 3rd bike or fat bike for the coming zombie apocalypse. only a fat bike will be able to ride over and squish all the zombie bodies.

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    scott big jon fat bike no limits

    By the way this bike might be a little slow but bike path closed ? yeah right look out here I go !
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    Got mine late last night.. cant wait to ride it it has got a new SLX derailleur with a clutch. Im going to ride a bit and then look into what it takes to make a conversion to 1x10
    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-14646706_1504316539584480_1336830793_o.jpg
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    Anyone know what size and thread the hole in the front of the fork is? I'm thinking it might be a good spot to place a fabricated bracket for a light

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolfvector View Post
    Got mine late last night.. cant wait to ride it it has got a new SLX derailleur with a clutch. Im going to ride a bit and then look into what it takes to make a conversion to 1x10
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    Is that a 2017, and if so where did you find it? Did you have to go through a dealer? I was looking all over and couldnt find one that shipped.

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    Nice bike rolfvector

    Quote Originally Posted by rolfvector View Post
    Got mine late last night.. cant wait to ride it it has got a new SLX derailleur with a clutch. Im going to ride a bit and then look into what it takes to make a conversion to 1x10
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    Thanks for posting. your big jon is the first 2017 on this forum and is awesome.

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    In my country the dealer has some of the new 2017 bikes for sale already, i just went and picked it up Got to ride it yesterday and it was great. I think i will wait with 1x10 conversion a bit because i used the smaller ring quite a bit New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-2016-10-14-17.38.37.jpgNew Scott fat bike: Big Jon-2016-10-14-17.38.49.jpg

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    That 2017 looks great.

    I don't often do impulse purchases, but saw a leftover 2016 Big Jon on sale, and jumped on it! I had test-rode one last year, so I knew a bit about it.

    Swapped the stock bars (worst grips ever?) for a Jones H-Bar that I had laying around. I also had a nice Thompson setback post that I swapped. So far, so good!

    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-img_4234_zpsmngmsxea.jpg

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    schmed, the scenery behind your cool big jon is beautiful where is this place ?

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    Cool bikes folks I hope you enjoy them. Please post ride pics and mods we love Big Jons

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    New headset

    The steering had developed a notchy feel either side of straight ahead. It wasn't too bad but it was making the turn-in twitchy and the bike was following lines on the trail that weren't there so it was time for a new headset.

    I like Hope headsets and their mix 'n' match parts aren't too expensive in the UK. To replace like-for-like you need a ZS 55/40 lower (type G) and a ZS 44/28.6 upper (type 2).

    Although it's possible to replace the headset with home-made tools I got the essentials a few years ago and they make the procedure about as difficult as fitting a door handle. The top cup came out without undue stress...
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    ...and the bottom cup was also pretty easy. The standard cups are made of steel and have simple caged bearing whereas the Hope parts (on the right) are alloy and have buttery smooth cartridge bearings.
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    Just watch out for the ring reinforcement at the bottom of the head tube when you're removing the cup.

    Assembly (as they say) is the reverse of disassembly...
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    Note to BIGFAT29 the Hope bearings match the frame colours

    One thing I did notice while the fork was out is that it doesn't have a tapered steerer. It's just a standard 1.125" straight steerer with a collar on the end to make it fit in the tapered head tube which is something of a disappointment. On the other hand it is light (I didn't weigh it but it felt less than 2lb) so that's something to bear in mind if you're thinking of fitting a suspension fork.

    After putting the bike back together I had no choice but to go for a test ride. Here it is in its natural environment...
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    Back on 4.8s for the time being. The Zee brakes combined with fat tyres take braking to a whole new level. Lovely Renthal cockpit finishes it all off...
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    Beautiful!!!

    Max, where in the UK do you ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkk View Post
    Beautiful!!!
    thank you

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    Max, where in the UK do you ride?
    I live near to Cannock Chase. It's mostly trees and the highest point is just 200m but there are loads of trails. Where do you ride Darkk

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    Swinley Forest mainly, Berkshire, but I'm moving to Oxford so we'll ser what I'm up to next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkk View Post
    Swinley Forest mainly, Berkshire, but I'm moving to Oxford so we'll ser what I'm up to next year.
    Cool I've not been to Swinley but it looks good

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    Max Green is mean !

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    Whats a good deal on a closeout 2016 Big Jon ...

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    Good deal ? ebay usa florida bike shop make offer and free shipping 11 hours left

    Quote Originally Posted by nismosr View Post
    Whats a good deal on a closeout 2016 Big Jon ...
    I don't know how good a deal you can get on this one but there is a 2016 scott big jon size medium brand new out of florida on ebay for 1599.00 but GET THIS you can MAKE OFFERS and it has FREE SHIPPING.its a error when you go to ebay they have it as a 2015 anyways ebay item number 252583925234.free shipping is about a 150.00 discount as it is and to make offers for a leftover fat bike at a bike shop in florida Im guessing you could offer 1200.00 who knows .you better hurry it end in 11 hours.I found it on ebay usa by just typing in scott big jon and it came up. if it doesn't sell you can look at completed items and get the info or it might get relisted.they had a large too but it sold last week saw that on the completed page.good luck.

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    I checked further and it looks like the new scott big jon medium on ebay and by the way it looks like the large big jon didn't sell is at a bike shop called (2 wheels cycle) in delray beach florida . phone number 561-243-4450.I looked at the website they do sell scotts but didn't see big jons listed but they have and had some on ebay. its gotta be the place as the ebay seller name is (2wheelscycle).scott does not allow new bikes to be shipped from scott dealers but they can get by that by calling it a demo even thought it might be in the box new.if you live in the us better get busy and call. let us know if you or anyone else gets one.

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    I found a lbs is has one on my size Medium on a closeout and I'm also interested in getting a Trek Stache 5 Rigid with carbon fork in Miami Green which I think is a nice color. here's my 1 for 2 deal .. $2050 plus tax for the Big Jon and Stache 5 !

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    I paid $1359 for mine in December, so I would expect you should be able to find them for that price minimum if not better.

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    I just picked one up a few weeks ago and got it for $1200 out the door. It's more fun than I thought it would be, that was until the first flat. It takes a lot of strokes on a mini pump to fill up one of those tires. I have since converted the front wheel tubeless, working on the rear as well but it's proving to be more difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchemo View Post
    I just picked one up a few weeks ago and got it for $1200 out the door. It's more fun than I thought it would be, that was until the first flat. It takes a lot of strokes on a mini pump to fill up one of those tires. I have since converted the front wheel tubeless, working on the rear as well but it's proving to be more difficult.

    great deal .. I'm going to a shop this Saturday hopefully I can get them out the door at that price too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchemo View Post
    I just picked one up a few weeks ago and got it for $1200 out the door. It's more fun than I thought it would be, that was until the first flat. It takes a lot of strokes on a mini pump to fill up one of those tires. I have since converted the front wheel tubeless, working on the rear as well but it's proving to be more difficult.
    Similar story here. Part of the fat bike learning curve I guess and I even searched the hell out of it before hand. Getting the JJ's to seat straight gave me fits initially. That is until I aired the crap out of it with the compressor and POP! Straight.

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    big jon front fork on ebay 40.00

    I was curious about the big jon on ebay it looks like it didn't sell according to the completed listings but now there is a scott big jon front fork up for bid on ebay for 40.00 us. anyone need a stock used oem front fork ? Yeah I know half of you out there are gonna say yeah I need a front fork a bluto front fork !

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    Nice fall ride pokeynrs!

    Took the Big Jon down to SW Colorado for some out-there singletrack:


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    Thanks Schmed, Colorado looks amazing as well.

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    after countless emails last week with the Bike shop on checking out and picking up the Big Jon and was set on this past Saturday, the shop sold the bike before I even get there. I was all set on getting it. bummer ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerteeuwen View Post


    I got my fat Jon yesterday, I haven't really lowered the psi anything crazy yet but from what I have lowered it too... Insane amount of traction and I really love the roll over of the wider tire.

    I come from riding 700c cross and 29er so I'm used to the roll over, but with the larger contact patch on the bike its roll over is super fun!

    I am 6' 5" and the bike is an XL and it fits good though I have the seat post near its limit and I could have done with a Bit higher of a bar height though i do run my 29er with an inverted stem so I may not change anything about it.




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    Can you post more pictures? Im looking to get the XL as well. Side view would be nice to see the top tube and standover.
    Thanks

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    new 2016 big jon back on ebay make offers free shipping 3 days left

    Quote Originally Posted by nismosr View Post
    after countless emails last week with the Bike shop on checking out and picking up the Big Jon and was set on this past Saturday, the shop sold the bike before I even get there. I was all set on getting it. bummer ..
    Nismosr don't be bummed if you live in the us ride a size medium your new big jon is back on ebay waiting for you.heck I think they still have a large. auction has 3 days left they are taking offers plus free shipping for one of the best valued and equipped fat bikes of 2016. WINTER IS COMING .
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideeatrepeat View Post
    Can you post more pictures? Im looking to get the XL as well. Side view would be nice to see the top tube and standover.
    Thanks
    I'm not quite as tall as tigerteeuwen but I have an XL Big Jon. There are some pics earlier in the thread:

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    For me at 6'2" 34" inseam there's sufficient standover. The shop had a size L in at the same time and I was able to try it around the car park it felt like every other mountain bike I've bought - slightly too small.

    The XL is a big old gate at least 6'6" from end-to-end but I'm glad I didn't get the smaller size. Sizing chart if you haven't seen it:
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    HTH

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    Raceface ride crank with a 30 t narrow wide ring will it work

    Has anyone did the 1x10 conversion using a narrow wide ring on a raceface ride crank with a 30t ? I want to replace my 32t with a 30t . will it work since its quite a bit smaller ? I thought I would see if I could get just a little bit more out of my lowest gear. before I buy one I was hoping to find out if the 30t would fit over the crank arm on to the spider without removing and messing with the arm or crank itself . putting on the 32t was pretty easy as it slipped right over the arm .

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    The 30T RF n/w is available with a 104 BCD so it should fit. Whether you can slide it on over the crank arm is another question.

    FWIW the crank arm comes off very easily. When I removed the little ring I took the driveside arm off and the spindle is attached to the non-driveside so all you need to do is remove the hex bolt with an 8mm key and then use a standard ISIS puller to remove the arm. Fit the new ring, slide the arm back on and tighten the bolt.



    My own experience is that 2 teeth less on the front doesn't make *that* much difference to the riding experience. It puts the 2nd biggest cog at the back somewhere between your old 1st and 2nd (if that makes sense) and a similar reduction in 1st so it's like half-a-gear lower. HTH

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    Thanks max . When I had the bike converted to a 1x 10 and adding the 32t a guy I know at a bike shop helped me do it on the side so it just cost me some beer.he knew more than me about the conversion so I just let him do most of it. he has since moved away to a different state so I thought I would buy a 30t and do it myself. even if its only a half gear lower Im still gonna go ahead buy one and put it on and see if I can even tell the difference. Max you are the man ! thanks again for your help and the great link.

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    Forgot to say the crank puller you need is a Park CWP-6 but any ISIS puller will do. The retaining bolt needs to be 45 ft/lbs which is very tight but not insanely tight

    Edit: instructions are attached Ride_XC_Crank-1.compressed.pdf

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    Thanks Max I just ordered the ring and found a source for the park tool.

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    Just finished putting the 30t ring on .wasn't that bad of a job but did get a little help .after test ride the 2 hills that were killing me that I ride a lot in my mind and legs are a little better now with the 30t ? before when I got to the lowest gear and was climbing those hills I keep wanting to shift more even going one more by mistake as it started to shift back up. it must be better because that didn't happen on those hills with the 30t this time. maybe it was the Wheaties I had for breakfast ? I will have to ride more but it seems to be better with just a slight half tad more of lower gear.bikes a mess it got real dirty and got a flat tire.
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    Nice work glad you got it sorted. Sometimes half a gear makes all the difference!

    I've been riding round on my hardtail for the last few weeks and *thought* I'd gone back to the thin tyre religion but I got Big Jon out at the weekend and realised I hadn't

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    Max Fat is where its at ! oh and some of us plus +

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    There is a used one available here I think I am going to get it -only bad point is the non-tubeless rims

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    There is a lot you can do if your worried about the extra weight.there are much lighter inner tubes you can buy and a few components that will save you some weight and it wont cost that much. ebay is a good source for slightly used or new take off fat bike rims.I almost bought a new take off specialized fat bike wheelset for 300.00 bucks with tires but didn't know much about if they were a lot lighter or could be tubeless.they look like dt swiss with the specialized name on them ? please post your big jon bike if you buy it.

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    Well i bough it.... a used 2016, medium frame. I am 5f 10.5 in, could have fitted on a large according to the chart, the inseam is cleared, hard to imagine having it higher, but the top tube feels short, it is shorter than my 18 inches XC bike (26 wheels) but the bikes are so different anyway... feels a lot smaller than I anticipated, I do not feel on top but into the bike, the wheels are some much closer to the rider than on a 26 bike. Feels like a playful bike. hard to know if I will enjoy logging miles on it.

    had a little go on my favorite local trail system, the seller lived nearby.... so I could not resist. There was fresh powder, and ice under it, pretty difficult to ride, I hope it gets easier. I puked some of my lunch 20min into it.

    I don't even know how much pressure there was in the tires.

    It is a mixed system with XC skis, snowshoes, and fat bikes in the winter. I met a couple each on their 2017 big johns and they spotted my bike and said great bike

    So the trail had a thin line in the middle you could ride.
    Touch a bit on the side and you fall off trail and you are waist deep in show.
    A very small section was open/rideable, cause it snowed a bunch the night before. A good time for skis and snowshoes who could go anywhere.

    Anyway I am so excited to be able to try a fatbike, I tried renting but on a good day they are all gone... or the trails are closed because of fresh snow. I rode a lot in the winter on my kona stuff hardtail with 2.5 tires, when the conditions are good it was awesome in snowmobile tracks. So I know I had to try a fatbike after I looked at all the youtube videos. I have been dedicated to mtbiking for 10 years, some almost fulltime, until 2010. Last bike I purchased was a 2008 kona "the king" XC dually with is now a hei hei 100 thanks to frame warranty.

    ...anyway I will try a fatbike for a year on snow, rough wilderness beaches in the summer and see if I like it. That was the plan, I really could not resist, not at all.

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    2017 Scott Big Jon

    The 2017 Scott Big Jon looks nice!

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    Man those tires are massive.

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    I agree the 2017 looks a lot nicer in person than on the webpage. There is some nice purples in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montrealrider View Post
    Well i bough it.... a used 2016, medium frame. I am 5f 10.5 in, could have fitted on a large according to the chart, the inseam is cleared, hard to imagine having it higher, but the top tube feels short, it is shorter than my 18 inches XC bike (26 wheels) but the bikes are so different anyway... feels a lot smaller than I anticipated, I do not feel on top but into the bike, the wheels are some much closer to the rider than on a 26 bike. Feels like a playful bike. hard to know if I will enjoy logging miles on it.
    It's a different animal for sure but I think you got the right size. I'm your height exactly and I've got a medium as well. On the Scott 27.5+ the large was a better fit, but the large on the Big Jon was just a hair oversized. Hope you enjoy the new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montrealrider View Post
    Well i bough it.... a used 2016, medium frame. I am 5f 10.5 in, could have fitted on a large according to the chart, the inseam is cleared, hard to imagine having it higher, but the top tube feels short, it is shorter than my 18 inches XC bike (26 wheels) but the bikes are so different anyway... feels a lot smaller than I anticipated, I do not feel on top but into the bike, the wheels are some much closer to the rider than on a 26 bike. Feels like a playful bike. hard to know if I will enjoy logging miles on it.

    had a little go on my favorite local trail system, the seller lived nearby.... so I could not resist. There was fresh powder, and ice under it, pretty difficult to ride, I hope it gets easier. I puked some of my lunch 20min into it.

    I don't even know how much pressure there was in the tires.

    It is a mixed system with XC skis, snowshoes, and fat bikes in the winter. I met a couple each on their 2017 big johns and they spotted my bike and said great bike

    So the trail had a thin line in the middle you could ride.
    Touch a bit on the side and you fall off trail and you are waist deep in show.
    A very small section was open/rideable, cause it snowed a bunch the night before. A good time for skis and snowshoes who could go anywhere.

    Anyway I am so excited to be able to try a fatbike, I tried renting but on a good day they are all gone... or the trails are closed because of fresh snow. I rode a lot in the winter on my kona stuff hardtail with 2.5 tires, when the conditions are good it was awesome in snowmobile tracks. So I know I had to try a fatbike after I looked at all the youtube videos. I have been dedicated to mtbiking for 10 years, some almost fulltime, until 2010. Last bike I purchased was a 2008 kona "the king" XC dually with is now a hei hei 100 thanks to frame warranty.

    ...anyway I will try a fatbike for a year on snow, rough wilderness beaches in the summer and see if I like it. That was the plan, I really could not resist, not at all.
    congrats ! you will love your fat bike. the q factor takes a little while to get used to but other than that its all good.

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    the q-factor:
    first time climbing a mountain, half hour steady climb, yeah I could feel somthing weird in my knees, it is a strange rotation.... but that was the first time I tried clipped pedals on the fattie and they were shimanos not times, I hate them.... I,ll try with times.. and flats did not give me that feeling.

    the bike:
    I had the chance of firmer snow conditions and tried well groomed trails I have done in the summer and boy that bike is fast! I could not belive how fast I went a moderate flowy downhill on snow, I mean I think I do not go as fast on my xc bike in the summer! cause I would slip on the gravel in the turns!
    I tried a very steep twisty chute and the bike was super manoeuvrable and stable.

    Living in Montreal we have a long and snowy winter and even urban is super fun. Parks and back alleys are great and the public stomps the tracks for us

    Mind you a lot of people ride 700c city bikes all winter here. Riding a fattie makes you looks like you are really afraid of slipping I guess.

    But I know how a fat bike opens up the riding in the winter now. Looks like a good week ahead of us snow wise.

    I went to a dealer for sizing. He said I am better with the medium frame but with a longer stem. I can sell the bike for a profit right now if I need to I have a buyer.

    There is a sasquatch 6.2 large here at a great price, I could swap it for 600$ more but since I am not ritch I am kind of opting to keep the big jon but I will have to upgrade some components. But that is the good side of it, having bought used I can invest some in better components. I did not ride the sasquatch but I bet I could buy it new, ride it a week and sell it for profit or even. (400$ sale) But I am way too afraid I would keep the two and bust my visa till the end of summer

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    Still riding my 2015 Scott big John, it has been a good bike thus far, having close to 3000km total on it over the two riding seasons I have owned it.

    I have only replaced the cassette and chain for maintenance, and had the brakes bleed with CHF 7.1 which seems to help with the modulation.

    I replaced the rear tire with a maxxis Colossus, it's a good tire in some ways, being traction in packed snow, though it's heavier and doesn't offer as good of float as the scwalble jumbo Jim 4.8 that came stock, I will go back to running a Jim once I have a good excuse.

    The front derailleur is on the way out, spring has lost tension... Or something like that, doesn't want to return to position when shifting to the small ring, so I will probably replace that ASAP with an XT front post mount.

    All in all, I would definitely recommend this bike based on my km's ridden also with my general opinion made from riding with other people with a variety of other fat bikes, it's a very capable bike from commuting, to the Nordic centre in Canmore to riding some downhill in brag Creek it has served well.




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    Well I sold the medium, witch was too small for me. In the descents I felt I had the steerer between the knees.
    Got the Sasquatch 6.2 new on sale 500$ off, came in only 80$ more than a new big jon -also on sale. I am very confy on the large. I never could try or see a large big jon but the stand over height looks high for me on paper. Would love to try one to compare to the Norco after I ride it more.

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    I picked up a Big Jon back in November off of Ebay. I believe the bike I bought was talked about on page 6 of this thread. (Medium at a bike shop in Florida) I finally got to ride some trails last week. This is my first fatbike, so I'm pretty new to all this. It was lots of fun to ride out in the snow.

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    I had seen that ebay listing and posted here and glad you got that new big jon at such a great deal.looks like a sweet bike they are lots of fun.

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    Yeah Big John is a cool bike I hope you enjoy it zachaput

    Having said my last fat ride was new year's eve it was dry and not too cold but since then it's been wet and our local trails have turned to mush.

    After getting the fatty in Oct 2015 I hardly used my HT in 2016. After robbing it of what I could for Big Jon I was going to sell it but somehow after One Last Ride it felt pretty good. Not as good as Big Jon obv but not that bad either especially in mud.

    And so this year I have only ridden the HT. Strava says it's a bit slower than the fatty but given the current conditions that's to be expected. It remains to be seen how close they are when the trails dry up and I get the chance to make a fair comparison.

    Gotta love bikes

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    How's it going folks I hope you all still have your Big Jons

    I started riding mine again at the end of March and it has cleaned up on Strava. To put some values on it, it's between 10 and 40 seconds/mile quicker than my other bikes which is amazing. My Voltage FR is quicker on some descents (but not much) and my Jekyll has the edge on some twitchy climbs but the fatty is still faster from A-B

    I haven't changed anything on the fat bike since last year. I got a new 4.8 JJ after Christmas but I haven't fitted it yet the 4.0s are staying on until it gets dry and rubbly around here.

    I have grown to love the bike's simplicity. A 1x drivetrain and no suspension means I can put it away and it's ready to go next time. The BB and hubs are wearing well and the point-and-shoot Zee brakes are hardly touched.

    Given the choice I'd take the fat bike any time but I've imposed a rota so that I still use my other bikes. They're good in their own right but Big Jon is as addictive as crack cocaine

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    Nice to see this thread still kicking. The time change couldn't come fast enough around here. I've been riding my --- off and doing stuff on this bike at 40 I wasn't doing in my 20's. I've been thinking about a Bucksaw as of late, not as a replacement but as an addition. Otherwise the Big Jon has held up great. I had a clicking in the BB that I couldn't nail down. I finally took it to the LBS and had them tear the whole thing apart front to back and re-grease & tighten everything. It hasn't returned since. The stock JJ's are holding up great as well. My only complaint is that the spacing between the knobbies seems to allow for a lot of slippage when they're wet, and one of the main trail networks I ride has a couple of creek crossings. After making a crossing I've got to be careful to choose just the right gear. Beyond that, I think I blew the lockout on the Bluto over the weekend but that's another issue... and another trip to the LBS.

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    I guess this thread just needed a bump.

    I recently converted to a 11-42 Sunrace cassette, to go along with the Race Face 30t NW ring. Other than some Niner carbon bars the rest of my Big Jon is stock. I've owned it for over a year now but the honeymoon hasn't ended. Love.the thing!

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    Guess I`ll leave my Big Jon here.

    It`s a 2017 model with a drivetrain upgrade, the rest is stock.

    The new drivetrain consists of:
    Shimano XT M8000 RD
    Shimano SLX M7000 shifter
    Sunrace 11-46 cassete
    Absoluteblack 34t oval chainring (yes, it is mounted the wrong way around, will get it fixed tomorrow)

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    ^^ Magaiver your 2017 bike looks great

    What do you think about the oval chainring

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    scott big jon fat bike

    Nice 2017 magaiver. just cleaned and detailed the old big jon nice to see action on this forum again . hi max.
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    I run Absolute Black oval`s on all of my MTB`s, a geared XC 29er, a single speed 29er and the Jon.
    I`m not sure if they make that much of a performance difference, as I don`t have any way to directly compare them to a round ring. But for me, they feel great, look cool and the Absolute Black rings have superb build quality. On all my bikes when I moved to the oval rings I also made major changes to the entire drive train so everything felt different not just the chainrings.
    And you will still fall on really steep technical climbs if do something stupid and cannot unclip fast enough... I`m a master at that.

    By the way, the chainring has been flipped to the right position.

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    guy on a fat bike competes in texas ironman

    Some guy rode a cannondale fat bike in the texas ironman last month and did pretty good considering he is on a Fat bike ! check out the aero bars on the bike.he finished 78th of 160 for the older group and finished 1854th of 2671 overall. go to Bicycling for full story.
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    Big jons on ebay

    Fyi on ebay currently there is a new 2016 medium big jon and a large 2017 big jon demo at pretty good prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    Nice 2017 magaiver. just cleaned and detailed the old big jon nice to see action on this forum again . hi max.
    Looking as clean and green as ever big fella

    Here in England we have DUST:

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    Max all we had this past winter was dust ! it was a mild winter again 2 years in a row. there wasnt much snow at all here in good old ohio usa.again I gotta say I didn't mind. its nice to have had some mild winters for a change .not much snow is pretty rare here. the problem is not getting to enjoy the bike in the white stuff. looks like your ride is holding up well.

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    Scott big jon fat bike pics lets see some !

    Its time again for the scott fat bike owners to post some more pics. please don't be shy.
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    New BB

    Looking good big fella wish mine was that clean

    Despite what people say I've not had any problems with RF BBs and this one has been no exception. It was a free-spinning unit right from day one (Oct 2015) but more recently 'free spinning' = 'loose' most noticeable when standing on the pedals. I was going to fit a Shimano BB (does the tube in the middle actually do anything?) but I spotted a stainless Hope Fatsno unit for a (relatively) reasonable price.

    First step was to remove the RF BB:
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    Drive side unbolts and pulls off:
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    Keep the two fibre washers between the BB and the cranks.

    Tap the cranks out:
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    There was a fair bit of threadlock in there but it came out easily enough:
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    Hope cups went in easily up to finger tight then just a quarter turn with the old BBT-9:
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    Cranks back in:
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    Stealth black:
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    There was a little bit of drag to begin with but I've done a few miles over the weekend and the bearings have settled in. The feel through the cranks is good there's a solid connection to the bike.

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    BBQ bb

    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Looking good big fella wish mine was that clean

    Despite what people say I've not had any problems with RF BBs and this one has been no exception. It was a free-spinning unit right from day one (Oct 2015) but more recently 'free spinning' = 'loose' most noticeable when standing on the pedals. I was going to fit a Shimano BB (does the tube in the middle actually do anything?) but I spotted a stainless Hope Fatsno unit for a (relatively) reasonable price.

    First step was to remove the RF BB:
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    There was a little bit of drag to begin with but I've done a few miles over the weekend and the bearings have settled in. The feel through the cranks is good there's a solid connection to the bike.
    Max , thanks for the dyi tips on the bb.very good info as my bb needs to be a little more bbq (quiet.) my big jons bb sometimes makes a slight ticking sound (mostly when standing up on the pedals) so not sure whats up or how long till it goes. I m told more grease will help but a bb upgrade in the future might be in the works. just noticed sorry for quote reply repeating your bb photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    my big jons bb sometimes makes a slight ticking sound (mostly when standing up on the pedals) so not sure whats up or how long till it goes
    Mine had a creak which came on during a ride and just got louder and louder with every pedal stroke. At first I thought it was the pedals so I swapped them and although the creak wasn't as loud it was still there. After a bit of experimentation with tightening the pedals I decided to drown the crank inserts in wet lube and leave them overnight, and that cured it.

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    Nice! Good info on the cranks. The stock BB on mine mine had a click in it, it was very strange. Sounded like there was a loose ball rolling around in them on the upstroke. Obviously not, but that's what it sounded like. I had the LBS pull them and completely re-do them and the issue went away. No trouble since. Only thing now is trying to decide whether or not to go 1x (pretty sure I want to) and if so, which chainring/size. I'm thinking Raceface Cinch looks like the way to go. The option of changing chainrings semi-easily would be a nice feature.

    On the subject of tubeless... I've done some fooling around on this thing. There was a comment made a while back that Gorilla tape would sort it out, and I'm sure that's true. I tried to do it with Sunringle tape, and it's too hard to work with and/or I'm doing it wrong. Also, you really need to trim the rim strip back so that you can get the tape stuck down well on both sides of the rim strip. If you don't, the whole thing stays semi-permiable and wont hold air. I went ahead and threw the tube back in it and will wait until after Father's day. I've registered for an Enduro race (it's a beginner, family level "fun" event). We'll see how the bike holds up as is. I'll try to get some pics posted after. After testing the tubeless setup, I think that the Fatty Stripper would work perfect. The only real issue I had when I tested it was leaking around the rim strip, and the rim seams. The Fatty Stripper band covers all that up. Getting the bead to seat was a snap. No issues there at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher2011 View Post
    The option of changing chainrings semi-easily would be a nice feature.
    I thought the same thing until I realised the standard cranks are joined on the drive side. The drive side comes off easily with an 8mm hex key and an ISIS puller. They're actually Not That Heavy either although I agree the Cinch cranks look cool and I think they allow you to go really small on the chainring. Having said that the standard cranks also have spacers for the outer ring so it really is just a matter of binning the shifter + mech, unbolting the inner ring and fitting a n/w

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher2011 View Post
    Getting the bead to seat was a snap.
    Hmm this is what puts me off more than anything. I have 4.8 and 4.0 Jumbo Jims and they are both baggy as hell on the rims they literally fall off both sides when refitting them even with a tube in. Did you use JJs or a different tyre?

    Good luck with the Enduro race btw

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    Thanks Max, I'm going to give'er hell. Like I said, I joined the beginner class. I'm just not that competitive at my age. I want to do it for fun, but not feel like I'm holding someone up.

    So... the bead. This is with the stock 4.8 JJ's. I know what you're saying... and you're right. The guy that came over to help was like "Do you have tire levers?" me - "You don't need them." lol So just looking at it, you're like "There's no way in hell this is ever going to seat. It's just too sloppy." Spoiler alert... it does. If you blow enough pressure into it, the dang bead will seat pretty darn quick/easy... and surprisingly straight. We had to fool with it just a little and wiggle it around, then POP. Done. I thought the bead was going to be the big holdup, and it was probably one of the easiest parts.

    Something else I found in my garage that I think would seal these rims up pretty quick that I don't see anyone having ever mentioned, aluminum HVAC tape. The stuff sticks like crazy, and it's MADE to hold air in. It's also just the right width to fit in the ditch of the 80mm rims. Only issue is that just like the Sunringle tape, the rim strip really needs to be trimmed back so that you can actually stick the tape down to race of the rim properly, otherwise the air just blows under the tape, through the strip... done. I might experiment with the HVAC tape at a later time down the road, but in the meantime I'm 99% convinced that that the Fatty Stripper bands will be a one & done deal on these rims, and they even call out the Syncros rims on their website (they recommend you use the backer rod).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher2011 View Post
    If you blow enough pressure into it, the dang bead will seat pretty darn quick/easy
    Kingfisher you've got me interested. Does the tape keep the bead in place while you inflate the tyre? What do you use to inflate it

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    Max... keep in mind that it ultimately was a failure, but I know why. However, to your question no... the bead was tape free. I used the 78 mm Sunringle tape which comes almost up to the bottom of the rim edge but doesn't go up to the bead area. I have a friend who loaned me a blow gun with a piece of clear tubing on the end and used that to blow air into the tire to get it to seat. With the compressor at about 125-140 PSI, you have to fool with the tire a little to get it closer to the rim but as soon as the air hits it, it generally wants to pop in to place. I'm confident you could also do it with a Schrader adapter and a standard chuck, given enough PSI. When we did it initially I pulled the valve core, but with the way the little piece of tubing goes over the stem, at high pressure the air goes into the tire anyway... even with the core in.

    If I went through the trouble of taking a razor/cutter and trimming the rim strip to make it more narrow, then re-taping with the Sunringle tape. I'm relatively confident the thing would go just fine. For $20 though, the Fatty Stripper setup just seems like it's a hell of a lot easier and cleaner and I don't have to jump through the hoops.

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    Big Jon loses a tube... take 2... Fatty Stripper

    So I did round 2 of the tubeless today. After having a dismal failure with the Sunringle rim tape, seeing why it failed etc. I decided the Fatty Stripper setup was the way to go. I was right.

    To be clear, the Sunringle tape probably would've worked fine if I had removed the rim strip and gone back with something that was more narrow or if I had trimmed the factory one. That said, the Fatty Stripper setup skips all that and is quite a bit easier.

    I ended up with a tiny leak after about a 3 hour ride in the sticks yesterday so I figured today was a good day to go ahead and sort it out. The rim strip goes on just like in the video. I did go ahead and chop a piece of another tube as a spacer, again... just as in the video. I went ahead and got the tire all the way on the rim, greased the bead with dish soap and added the Stans. Since I'm working with a makeshift stand this was a PITA, but doable. After putting the air to the wheel and massaging the tire momentarily to get the bead to seat the thing aired right up. It's had 20-30 PSI in it all day without as much as a bubble or a hiss. The thing has been ridden, shook, and spun... no trouble.

    One item of note, I did go ahead and use the backer rod since they recommended it for the Syncros rims. I think this almost made the install more of a pain as it seemed to want to move around under the band as I was getting the tire adjusted to seat, then again I didn't try it without so that may have a been a bunch worse.

    Hope this helps.

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    Hmm thanks for that Kingfisher

    I'm guessing a compressor is pretty much essential?

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    Max, it might be possible to do it by hand but man it'd be tough.

    On related note, after my last post I went ahead and did the rear as well. The front seems to be holding air consistently while I've had a tiny amount bleed out of the rear. I've had to top it off a couple of times but nothing major. I've noticed it bubbling out of the seam but it's intermittent and it's not enough to cause me any major grief. I keep the pump handy just in case.

    I actually ran the bike in a local "Funduro" event this weekend that was setup as a family event. Obviously I wasn't competitive, but I had a hell of a lot of fun doing it and it was a good test of the Fatty Stripper setup... trial by fire I suppose. I didn't have a single burp or issue of any kind. I did however get lots of funny looks and a few comments.

    "That looks like fun."

    "What PSI do you run in those things?"

    and one of my favs...

    Seriously equipped Enduro rider - "Hey man, I think you need air."
    Me - "Oh you mean the rear tire? No, it's supposed to be like that."
    Enduro rider - [mystified look] I don't remember exactly what he said at this point, but he was shocked obviously.

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    Anyone know who makes the syncros hubs? I want to change the freehub on my big ed to XD. Thanks!

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    ???

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    Anyone know who makes the syncros hubs? I want to change the freehub on my big ed to XD. Thanks!
    I searched the old innerwebs on the hubs cant help .maybe alex brand ? sorry good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averbuks View Post
    Anyone know who makes the syncros hubs? I want to change the freehub on my big ed to XD. Thanks!
    Syncros is owned by Scott now, so it's their house brand. I've read the rims are made by Alex, maybe the hubs too?

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    New wheel(s)?

    Hey fellas how's it going

    My rear wheel has started making that cartridge-bearing-breaking-up noise. The wheel itself is otherwise OK (except maybe the join in the rim is starting to come apart slightly) and I wondered if anyone had replaced the bearings in their hub?

    On the other hand I could be tempted by some new wheels. DT BR710s on Hope Fatsnos seem (relatively) popular over here. I want to keep the 80 mm rim, 150x15 and 197x12 setup. Has anyone changed their wheels?

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    Man I'd rock the hell out of those. No wheel change here but if I upgraded, BR 2250 was the direction I was looking.

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    Max Dt swiss I wish ! those are awesome rims go for it. I would buy em if I had your money lol !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averbuks View Post
    Anyone know who makes the syncros hubs? I want to change the freehub on my big ed to XD. Thanks!


    Formula apparently.

    Front Hub: Syncros CT150 / 15 x 150mm made by Formula

    Rear Hub: Syncros CT197 / 197 ◊ 12mm RWS axle / made by Formula

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    Is it just me or is the color combo on the 2016 way better looking than the 2017 Big Jon?
    Just love that grey & green of the 16.

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    Must admit the colour was pretty low on my list of priorities when I was buying but I think the grey & green is OK

    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-image1.jpg

    Still like the black & orange 2017s though

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    This is my Big Ed with upgraded 1x11 XT, sunrace 11-46, 28t e thirteen narrowide (negative fatbike offset) and jumbo jim 3.8 tires. Running tubeless. Also has haven 35 carbon bars. Bike weighs 30lb with pedals.

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    2018 scott big jon is blue in color !

    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Must admit the colour was pretty low on my list of priorities when I was buying but I think the grey & green is OK

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    Still like the black & orange 2017s though
    Just saw the 2018 big jon and its blue .saw it on the scott website it has the same specs as the 2017.
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    Thanks for the heads up BF29. Surprised to see a 2018 version they must be selling OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Thanks for the heads up BF29. Surprised to see a 2018 version they must be selling OK
    I really like the blue .it looks like the 2016 felt dd30 shown here in the photo.its one of the better looking fat bikes out there.anyone try a new 27.5 x 4.5 fat tire bike yet ? I take it they are very fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    anyone try a new 27.5 x 4.5 fat tire bike yet ?
    Fat and plus bikes seem to have been and gone here in Middle England. Lots of ebikes and gravel bikes this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Fat and plus bikes seem to have been and gone here in Middle England. Lots of ebikes and gravel bikes this year
    Max Not many full on fat bikes showing up around here in ohio but the plus bikes are very popular.not seeing any ebikes but lots of gravel bikes. I'm going to the local bike shop this weekend and test ride a 27.5 trek fat bike as I'm curious how different they are.let you know the results next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    Thanks for the heads up BF29. Surprised to see a 2018 version they must be selling OK
    More pics of 2018 scott big jon fat bike.
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    Pretty bike! Thanks for posting


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    Hello everyone, first post here.. excuse me if its in the wrong place... I have a question... Last year I purchased a Scott Big Jon, and upgraded the fork to a 120mm Bluto. I only just realized there is a weight limit on the bike at 128kg, and with all my gear I'm closer to 148 kg... I dont really care about warranty, but with safety in mid, do you think the frame will be ok? I know how to ride, and can absorb shocks quite well.. using my legs as suspension so as not to rely on the frame too much... but I worry...

    Thanks!
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    I'm not a mechanical engineer but I can tell you that they pad the numbers. Considerably. I can't think of any reason you'd have any problems unless you were entering an Enduro and doing huge jumps etc. (unlikely)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher2011 View Post
    I'm not a mechanical engineer but I can tell you that they pad the numbers. Considerably. I can't think of any reason you'd have any problems unless you were entering an Enduro and doing huge jumps etc. (unlikely)

    Thank you so much!! Im more of the flow trail and cross country ride style... and not the huge jump kind..

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    Nice bike drebbin ! love those maxxis tires.welcome to the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGFAT29 View Post
    Nice bike drebbin ! love those maxxis tires.welcome to the forum.

    Thank you very much! The tires are great on rocks and trails, but i put the Jumbo Jim's back for snow... I find they float better...

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    30# big ed is impressive.

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    Cool bike Drebbin grey/green is the best colour *cough*

    I like the tyres as well are they Minions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drebbin View Post
    ...with safety in mid, do you think the frame will be ok?
    Big Jons sold in Europe have to meet/exceed EN 14766/ISO 4210 and there are many tests on the frame related to pulling the head tube away from the top/downtubes and vertical forces on the BB shell. The shock tests are in excess of the point where bones would break so you should be good to go

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    My Big Jon

    Since there were not many reviews online for the Scott Big Jon, this thread and a great price at LL Beans helped me pull the trigger and purchase a Big Jon last month. I am looking forward to riding this winter. I have over a hundred miles of riding at the NHC here in northern Maine and have enjoyed every mile so far. Here are some pics with a few upgrades.
    XT shadow plus derailauer
    XT 11-46 cassette
    XT trigger shifter
    Race face 30 tooth narrow wide chainring
    KMC X11SL Ti Nitride chain
    Old bars with 30mm rise
    Replaced the seat of course

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    Nice ride and upgrades brewbacca. dont see many 2017 big jons on the forum thanks for posting.

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    I never got to try a trek farley 9.6 as no shop has any .cant find one in stock to try. just was curious about a 27.5 x 4.5 tire fat bike and how quick they are.anyone try one yet ?

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    I've never seen one but there are some reviews online

    Trek Farley 9.8 review review - BikeRadar
    https://hallbicycle.com/2015/10/08/t...-depth-review/

    and some on here as well
    http://forums.mtbr.com/trek/2017-far...a-1031709.html
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/201...a-1021695.html

    It should be fast but personally I think bigger undamped tyres put energy back into the ride that narrower tyres can't. That was my feeling with 4.0s. Nimble yeah, lighter sure, faster no.

    Not sure how much choice there is in 27.5 x 4.5 tyres

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    Max I also hear the 27.5 x 4.5 tire is quite a bit heavier than the 26 x 4.0.that size is very limited right now. I wonder if thats the trend for new fat bikes in the future ? I would still like to try one demo days are coming soon !

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    Hi, I'm looking at getting a 2017 big jon from one of my friends, it has the stock race face 2x 10 cranks but I want to go 1 x 10. Do you have to get a new crank in order to do this or can you take the current crank and convert it to 1x? Are there any other upgrades that you guys recommend? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost458 View Post
    Hi, I'm looking at getting a 2017 big jon from one of my friends, it has the stock race face 2x 10 cranks but I want to go 1 x 10. Do you have to get a new crank in order to do this or can you take the current crank and convert it to 1x? Are there any other upgrades that you guys recommend? Thanks.
    Hi Frost, I used the stock crank and replaced the small chainring up front with a 30t 104mm narrow wide ring when I went 1x11, cost $38 dollars on amazon. If you want to stay 1x10 and expand your range a little in the rear you could look at adding a larger sprocket to your 10 speed cassette from one up or wolftooth.

    Hope this helps

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    Thanks Brew, I was looking at your pics when you first posted and was trying to figure out if that was the stock crank or not. I even priced everything out that you put on it through Jenson USA. For now I'm just going to put a 32 up front and see how that goes. Then eventually try to figure out if I can make it go tubeles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost458 View Post
    ...it has the stock race face 2x 10 cranks but I want to go 1 x 10. Do you have to get a new crank in order to do this or can you take the current crank and convert it to 1x?
    Race Face have made it as easy as possible

    The spindle is attached to the non-drive side and the driveside crank arm can be removed with a standard tool e.g. Park CWP-7. Remove the rings and fit a n/w of your choice. RF have thoughtfully provided shims so you don't even have to buy shorter chainring bolts. Remove the mech and godawful bracket, cable and shifter (350g). Bolt the crank arm back on and go ride.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost458 View Post
    Are there any other upgrades that you guys recommend?
    The n/w will keep the chain on but for maximum quietness a Zee clutch mech is Shimano's only short cage 10sp mech apart from Saint.

    Saint shifter very nice indeed.

    The standard centrelock rotors are surprisingly heavy and Shimano's own RT81s are a fine replacement.

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    C'dale fat caad 2 2018

    Saw one of these saturday at a bike shop. I was just looking and curious about the 2018s. Im not really interested in buying a new bike but saw this 2018 cannondale fat caad 2 fatty and it was pretty cool.it looks like the big jon a little. at 1,899 bucks it has the narrow q factor ,was very light and was similar to the fat caad 1 just no lefty olaf fork and it has a slx rear der. with lighter tubes or tubeless it would weigh about 29 lbs. it was barely 31 lbs on the scale size medium no pedals.test rode it and its pretty sweet.I love the big jon but this rode a little better with my legs not so far apart. I thought the q factor talk was all hype but for me there really was a diffrence. I asked what kind of deal I could get but the best they could do is 1,800 out the door because its so new. kinda thinking about it .I did find out while I was there that the 2017 fat caad 1 with the olaf lefty fork at 3,500 bucks has been discounted by cannondale big time .its up to the selling dealers but cannondale has approved 2,399 ! I called a few dealers and they will get you one for that price as there are a lot left in warehouses.I dont think I want a fat bike with suspension but wow thats a hell of a price.
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    Ahh the lure of a new bike. Cannondales are similarly expensive over here and then hugely discounted at the end of the year

    The Fat CAAD does look a lot like a more modern version of Big Jon esp in the first pic. I've owned a few Cannondales and they've been pretty good apart from the Cannondale-specific (SI) parts when they wear out, usually BBs and headsets. It can be expensive/a long wait for what would be an ordinary component on a different bike.

    Maybe Cannondale are using proprietary cranks to get a narrow q-factor but if the bike feels better could the shop arrange a demo bike for you to hire for a day?

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    Max I dont think they would let me try it to ride more than the parking lot ride I took.however as these new bikes are starting to arrive at dealers it will be worth a call to the bigger big city shops to see if I could spend more time on one.I read that the si bb's can wear out quick. how hard on the cranks were you when you had your c'dales.I dont have the money you do to tear up stuff LoL .

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    lol I blame it on the rain


    The SI parts lasted just as long as anything else but when they needed replacing it was always a headache. We have one reliable supplier in the UK who actually stocks Cannondale parts but they're never inexpensive. There are international suppliers but the postage is a killer so my choice is go with an expensive (and sometimes rare) SI part or bite the bullet and get some sort of adaptor so I can use a standard component. I guess the situation is better in the USA.


    Test rides are pretty much the same here although I did hire a Specialized Fatboy for £50/day before I got Big Jon.


    Do you find the q-factor obtrusive? I guess back-to-back with a narrower bike the difference is quite noticeable.

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    Good job!

    I promise not to mention the c'dale name on here much more as this is a forum dedicated to the awesome Scott big jon bike.
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    keep us posted bud

    I like Cannondales

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    '16 Big Jon owners, does anyone have a stock seatpost (Medium frame if it matters) that they're willing to part with? I was tinkering with mine yesterday and I guess the freaking tube didn't have enough grease in it or something. Ended up scratching the hell out of it, apparently from where one of the stays meets the seat tube. Total noob mistake. I'm due to upgrade to a dropper anyway, but it'd be nice to have a stock one that isn't totally screwed.

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    Hi,
    Any difference between the 2016 and 2017 Big Jon? Also, Im 5 10 with a 31,5 inseam so in between Large and Medium. Any recommendations on sizing ? I ride a large Stache 7 and it fits great.

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    Is that true inseam or pant size? I believe the 16's, 17's etc. all have the same geometry. I'm 5' 11" with about a 30" inseam and ride a '16 medium. I normally ride a large but the large was too big for me, and it seems to me that the main issue was standover. My plus bike is a much bigger rig with a lot more reach and now when I jump back on the Big Jon after a while it feels a hair small in the cockpit. That feeling goes away, but I thought it was worth mentioning. If you've got the standover for it, and it sounds like you do I'd probably opt for the large.

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    This is Scott's sizing chart
    New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-size-chart.jpg
    a Medium is OK for up to 180 cm (5' 9").

    I'm 6'2" 34 IL and was able to try the L and the XL. The L is OK for up to 190 cm (6' 2") and I would agree with that - with the emphasis on 'up to'. It felt like it would be a better fit for someone 6' or less ( I bought the XL btw)

    Unless you have a preference for slightly small bikes with lots of seatpost I would go for the L

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    Thanks. Im 5 10 which is closer to 177.5 cm. I just tried a used medium. The reach was short (410) compared to the 435 of my 29er hardtail with the same stem length. It felt really cramped so will be looking at a large Big Jon next.

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    My apologies 180 cm is 5.9 feet. Blame Google

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    Quote Originally Posted by max gnarcore View Post
    My apologies 180 cm is 5.9 feet. Blame Google
    mmmm, check your math. It's ~5' 11"

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    Big jon

    Scott big jon.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails New Scott fat bike: Big Jon-img_6008.jpg  

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    Hard to argue with your reasoning. It's a great looking bike! Congrats and enjoy!

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    Scott big jon.
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    BF29 that looks amazing Cannondale definitely know how to put a bike together

    What are the specs

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