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    Nate 3.8

    Just picked up my Nate!

    I bought the 27tpi model. It measures out to 98mm (outer knob to outer knob) on my Large Marge with 15 psi. The shop had a Big Fat Larry which weighted about 300 grams LESS than my Nate! My Nate was 17xx grams and the BFL was 14xx grams.

    Pics soon...

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    Deep Fried Meat Fueled Natepocalypse

    Here are some pics...

    The tire says the tpi on the sidewall which is kinda nice for those that'll spring for the more expensive version. I didn't see any directional arrows, but I'm assuming the chevrons pointing forward was the way to go on the front.

    This is also written in two spots, just above the bead... "Deep Fried Meat Fueled Natepocalypse"










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    so jealous!

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    So, how many millimeters per side are available before interference occurs? Looks to have more confidence-inspiring tread for more technical terrain at speed. Go ride it fast down some corners through the loose stuff and then give us your review.
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    Man those look mean.

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    They look great...as Leo said how do they handle?
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    Have the pictures disappeared for everyone or is it just me?

    Edited to add - ignore my post, I've reset my router and all's well now!
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    Looks good!

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    Sorry folks you'll probably have to wait for someone else for a trail review (or at least until the snow flies). The Nate is destined to be a snow tire for the front of my pudgy 1x1, and I already put the Endo back on. The 1x1 only sees sand and mud on flat, wide trails during the non-winter months... places where I'd rather use the Endo.

    Figured the Nates would go fast once available, and the 2nd run of tires might not be in before winter so I jumped on one ASAP.

    I just put the Nate on for the ride home from the LBS to see how it rolled... it was smoother than expected on the pavement. But that's about the only review I have at this point. I might put Nate on my singletrack bike (fat front Fargo) just to see how it rides, but I'm pretty happy as it is with the Larry. If I make the switch, I'll post up my thoughts.

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    where? can't find anywhere....i'm in the middle of nowhere, need an online supplier...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTMN View Post

    Figured the Nates would go fast once available, and the 2nd run of tires might not be in before winter so I jumped on one ASAP.
    For this very reason, I went ahead and placed an order thru my LBS this morning. That and how dang awesome they look in your pictures!

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    I ordered a pair from aebike, will review asap.

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    These look like such great tires but 1700+ grams, seriously, thats as much as my frame weighs.

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    Couldn't resist...

    While getting ready for a ride on some local singletrack today, I couldn't resist switching Larry with Nate. Seeing that mean lookin' fatty all new and clean just wasn't right.

    I didn't notice any increase in rolling resistance or the extra weight compared to Larry, but I'm not that sensitive to those things (or do I really care that much). I'm also a fan of large knobby tires, especially in front.

    What I did notice is the grip... not a single slip in the (very dry) loose-over-hardpack conditions. If you are currently running a Larry up front and have had issues with your front end washing out, I'm guessing you'll appreciate Nate's extra grip.

    I thought a Larry up front inspired confidence in my riding, but Nate brings it to a whole new level. Seriously.

    Here are a couple pics of Nate in his natural habitat:




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    Thanks FTMN

    Looks awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTMN View Post
    The shop had a Big Fat Larry which weighted about 300 grams LESS than my Nate! My Nate was 17xx grams and the BFL was 14xx grams..
    I have two regular Larry 27tpi tires and they weigh 1530g and 1535g.
    BFL is 100g less? Hmm. Odd.

    Thanks for the pics, btw. That Nate looks like the business; Larry understeer is getting old

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    My 27tpi Endo and Larry both weigh 142x gms, the two 120tpi Larrys I bought weigh 146xgms each.

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    thanks for more pics!
    you can get a marge lite to lower your front weight a bit

    I think a couple of nates will found their way home eventually

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    Hey FTMN, you're in my neighborhood, what trail is that?

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    That may make a good rear tire with a BFL up front. At least that's what I am thinking of doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    That may make a good rear tire with a BFL up front. At least that's what I am thinking of doing.
    I'm just thinking of winter and summer setups. The Husker Du is looking pretty good. Maybe have that as a rear tire and a Nate up front for summer time.

    Winter... BFL up front and Nate in the rear. Hundies on both ends.

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    Awesomeness on the trail report. Looks as though I will have to buy one to try out. I’ve had many “Oops, I fooked up” incidents losing front traction through corners with the Larry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Awesomeness on the trail report. Looks as though I will have to buy one to try out. I’ve had many “Oops, I fooked up” incidents losing front traction through corners with the Larry.

    We all have, as much of an improvement over the endo up front as the Larry is its not the total package. I thought I was having issue with the Jones loop bar but it was more the lack of hookup with the Larry on loose single track. I went back to my stylo bar and that helped some. I will use the Jloop for those long distance rides that are not so tech and the wrist angle is more comfy.

    The Nate looks like a big step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Hey FTMN, you're in my neighborhood, what trail is that?
    Lebanon Hills... lots of people out today!

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    maddrjeffe I was thinking the same - they look meatier.

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    OK, I pulled the trigger and ordered a Nate 3.8. I cannot wait, it will be great.
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    I think I'll get one of these. Could be good for shallow bog wheeling....

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    Rode my new set today and man they have unbelievable amounts of grip...thinking maybe Nate front and Larry rear?? Not sure yet....

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    I really like the look of that tire. I think I need one.

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    Nate total width

    Does anyone here have both a Nate and a Larry on their bike? I'm wondering how much wider the Nate is (if any) where the side lugs are. A Larry just fits between my bike's chainstays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    OK, I pulled the trigger and ordered a Nate 3.8. I cannot wait, it will be great.
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    Nate front or back? Snow or dirt?

    It seems the Nate is being touted as a front tire for dirt. My biggest challenge with fatbiking in fresh powder, aside from float, is lack of rear wheel traction. I've used endomorphs, Larry's, and Spiders and they all have puny treads that just spin when climbing. Looks to me like the lugs on the Nate would be ideal as a rear fluffy snow tire. Currently I'm running Umma 1's with studded Spider in the back and studded Larry in the front. This is an ideal set-up for packed snow and ice. I'm contemplating purchasing a 2nd wheelset for fresh snow with hundies, BF Larry in front, and Nate in the rear. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by campykid View Post
    It seems the Nate is being touted as a front tire for dirt. My biggest challenge with fatbiking in fresh powder, aside from float, is lack of rear wheel traction. I've used endomorphs, Larry's, and Spiders and they all have puny treads that just spin when climbing. Looks to me like the lugs on the Nate would be ideal as a rear fluffy snow tire. Currently I'm running Umma 1's with studded Spider in the back and studded Larry in the front. This is an ideal set-up for packed snow and ice. I'm contemplating purchasing a 2nd wheelset for fresh snow with hundies, BF Larry in front, and Nate in the rear. Any thoughts?
    Sounds like my plan B if I don't want a BFL/hundie in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgerunner57 View Post
    Does anyone here have both a Nate and a Larry on their bike? I'm wondering how much wider the Nate is (if any) where the side lugs are. A Larry just fits between my bike's chainstays.

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    Maybe 4-5mm difference between the two--all in the edge knobs, not in the casing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Maybe 4-5mm difference between the two--all in the edge knobs, not in the casing.
    Thanks very much mikesee, exactly what I was looking for. So probably 2 to 2.5mm per side, I'm thinking that's not gonna work. I have a Vicious Thunderwing, which I believe was really designed more for a tire such as the Gazzolodi 3.0, though it does fit the Marge/Endo/Larry OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
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    I ordered my Nate via QBP
    Backordered, will they be?
    I guess I will wait and see
    But no-more understeering front wheel for me!

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    I just noticed that the title says Nate 3.8, but mine are listed as 4.0. Anyways, I just installed them on my Pugs. I can take better pics in outdoor daylight tomorrow if wanted.


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    I love the look of the tires plus how they ride....looks like a motocross tire :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinan01 View Post
    ...looks like a motocross tire :-)
    That was my first thought when I first saw them in the flesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTMN View Post
    While getting ready for a ride on some local singletrack today, I couldn't resist switching Larry with Nate. Seeing that mean lookin' fatty all new and clean just wasn't right.

    I didn't notice any increase in rolling resistance or the extra weight compared to Larry, but I'm not that sensitive to those things (or do I really care that much). I'm also a fan of large knobby tires, especially in front.

    What I did notice is the grip... not a single slip in the (very dry) loose-over-hardpack conditions. If you are currently running a Larry up front and have had issues with your front end washing out, I'm guessing you'll appreciate Nate's extra grip.

    I thought a Larry up front inspired confidence in my riding, but Nate brings it to a whole new level. Seriously.

    Here are a couple pics of Nate in his natural habitat:



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    Curiously, Benwitt made a comment in his blog about Nate not being a winter tire of choice, yet I find myself in the same boat as Campykid. Rear tire traction, at least in the snow conditions we have in the Northeast, sucks with the current crop.

    Perhaps really dry snow, or flatter trails don't require the same bite, but the first thing I thought when I saw Nate was how awesome it would be in the snow, especially once things turn uphill.

    Much the same reaction I had when they came out with Larry, only that was thinking about steering precision.

    The Spiders have been much better than the Endos around here, rear wise, but I'm thinking that Nate will kick butt into next week in the snow, makes me want winter to hurry up for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Curiously, Benwitt made a comment in his blog about Nate not being a winter tire of choice, yet I find myself in the same boat as Campykid. Rear tire traction, at least in the snow conditions we have in the Northeast, sucks with the current crop.

    Perhaps really dry snow, or flatter trails don't require the same bite, but the first thing I thought when I saw Nate was how awesome it would be in the snow, especially once things turn uphill.

    Much the same reaction I had when they came out with Larry, only that was thinking about steering precision.

    The Spiders have been much better than the Endos around here, rear wise, but I'm thinking that Nate will kick butt into next week in the snow, makes me want winter to hurry up for sure!
    It is a lot hillier where Ben lives, that's for sure. I can see where "paddles" would help, much like a sand rig's rear tires have giant paddles.

    Here where I am, on the snowmobile trails, it wouldn't be as necessary. I need float, and more than a Larry/Rolling Darryl can give me. I am hoping that the BFL/100mm rim combination will be that "liitle bit more" that will take my snow riding experience to "11".
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    It's been my experience, here in WV snow (which is usually heavier and wetter than northern states), that aggressive tires like the old Gazzaloddis just stay in one place and dig a hole when they start to spin. Something like an Endo, or the old Remolino sand tires, will usually keep you moving forward while they are spinning (up to a point, obviously).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Here where I am, on the snowmobile trails, it wouldn't be as necessary. I need float, and more than a Larry/Rolling Darryl can give me. I am hoping that the BFL/100mm rim combination will be that "liitle bit more" that will take my snow riding experience to "11".
    That's what I was thinking too. I've always just felt so "meh" about my Pugsley. I won't be on hundies this year, but I will be on BFL and Rolling Darryls.

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    A little bit better pic of them installed on a mostly stock Pugs...



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    Nate on Hundies

    Meaty like Dick Cepek tires...
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    I picked up my Nates today, threw one on the front of my bike (Uma 50mm), and rushed out to one of my favorite rocky trails: Gambrill State Park in Frederick, MD.

    OMG. It grips and claws like no other tire I've had before. Way better than Larry, which was better Endo, for my riding style on my trails. Probably overkill for smoother stuff, but this is the fat tire that I've been waiting for. Goads of traction front-back and side-to-side. Stops well too without the slipping I feel on Larry or Endo.

    Weighed the unmounted Nate (120 tpi version), and it was 1510 grams.

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    After that first ride on my fat front with the Nate, I switched back to Larry. After one ride with the Larry, I'm switching back to the Nate again. My intention was to wait until winter to use the Nate, but I've been spoiled.

    Once the snow flies I'm planning to put Nate on the front of my pudgy snow bike (won't fit in the back otherwise I'd put one there too).

    I think whether this will make a good snow tire or not will depend on the trails you ride. I don't think you can make a blanket statement that it'll be a bad (or good) snow tire. I think it'll be great on MPLS area singletrack. If your trails get relatively well-packed by a lot of use, I think Nate will be awesome (and an improvement over Larry).
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    damnitman - that close up of the Nate on the front: (George Takei voice) Oh MY.

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    Has anyone thought about taking a razor or other instrument of destruction to some of the knobs on a Nate? It seems traction is huge so taking away a little knobbage may not hurt performance but save some serious grams. The wide knobs down the middle could probably be made narrower and the second row in from the edge could probably loose every other knob. Don't have one yet but my mind is wandering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2 View Post
    Has anyone thought about taking a razor or other instrument of destruction to some of the knobs on a Nate? It seems traction is huge so taking away a little knobbage may not hurt performance but save some serious grams. The wide knobs down the middle could probably be made narrower and the second row in from the edge could probably loose every other knob. Don't have one yet but my mind is wandering...
    I do not see a way to remove enough rubber to make a significant weight difference without seriously changing the grip level, especially for cornering/off camber.
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    Just ordered 2 for the Pugs. Should come in tomorrow!
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    belt sander...mount your tire on a skinny rim, air it up, secure the rim in a fork (rubber side-up) and go to town...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    I do not see a way to remove enough rubber to make a significant weight difference without seriously changing the grip level, especially for cornering/off camber.
    Just recieved mine after I wrote my comments and it was only 1520 grams so not as heavy as I thought. Heck it is only 40 gr. heavier than the Larry's (1480g) I have. So I think I am going to run a BFL on front (only 1420g) and the Nate on rear which should stop the occasional tire spin I have in the rear when riding in wet/muddy swamp like areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    belt sander...mount your tire on a skinny rim, air it up, secure the rim in a fork (rubber side-up) and go to town...
    Did that back in the day to get Diesel Pros on Snowcats into the backend of a Truth. It sure makes a lot of black static sticky dust.

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    Danmitman: I LOVE those orange rims. Who makes them?
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    Had the Pugs out on the streets today with the Nate's and they have a rather satisfying "hum" to them when you get up to speed. Sounded like a big ole' 4-Wheel Drive Truck with big ole' Mickey Thomson's coming down the road...

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    after a solid weekend of riding the Nate verdict is: HOLY SIHT. I've NEVER ridden a tire with as much grab and capability as this. Mind bending stuff, really. I ran half fat with an Ardent rear.Seems a good combination. Nate is on a rolling daryl. Pressure is about 10. Terrain was sandy/hardpack with scattered limestone rocks and low land muck. IMO, this is THE tire to have in marginal seasons where you run into mud. That's where this tire is going to shine. I think it'll be a terrible snow tire. The aggressive knobs will break the snow surface too easily, turning up the snow and adding to an already slippery situation.
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    Let me embellish this review with a picture. Everyone likes pictures, right?
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    I still feel that snow conditions are WAY too variable to say, "Nate will be a bad snow tire." I think it'll do well on higher traffic trails that get fairly packed.

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    Finally got my first ride on my Nate up front last Saturday, a small amount of percivable squirm on hard pack but not bad. The nobbs are so beefy they almost seem like cleats.

    The monster truck guys trim down their tires with an electric hot knife.

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    I did a ride Saturday with Nates front and rear. Woods ride with lots of steep climbs, loose leaves, wet logs, ect. I don't think I could have spun out of I had tried. Definitely sort of overkill for anything but really wet, boggy riding, but they sure are a lot of fun.

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    What, no earth porn? Guys! And I only had my cell camera on me.

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    Looks ticklish. This is why 100mm bottom brackets work better than 83mm bottom brackets. I'm using 47mm wide rims.

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    I can echo the thought that they squirm a bit on hard pack. They also don't feel as supple over roots. I wonder how much that has to do with the fact that I'm riding the 27 tpi version. I kinda want to sell these and try the more spendy variety.

    They are an absolute bear on pavement. Anyone surprised by that? Moving on...

    It tracks really nicely up front. The profile is very round / rotund. Almost ellipsoidal on these narrower rims... to the degree that I'd probably be better off on 70mm rims during summer use with these.

    Grip: lots. I immediately went to three trouble spots on local hills: where I usually spin out, this time I (1) stalled because I couldn't push the gear with my dinglespeed, (2) stalled again, same reason, on a hill that is awkward to walk up, and (3) cleaned it!

    I could feel the additional wheel weight. Not enough for me to care too badly.

    EDIT: I did spin out once. It was a non challenging hill and I was riding with intentional weight too far forward and choppy pedaling. Normally the rear would be all over, but it stuck, until it let loose quiet suddenly and obviously. Just an ounce of good form and it hooked back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
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    Received my Nate 3.8 today. Have yet to mount it up. It’s going on the front, going to leave the current Larry 3.8 (running backward) on the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTMN View Post
    I still feel that snow conditions are WAY too variable to say, "Nate will be a bad snow tire." I think it'll do well on higher traffic trails that get fairly packed.
    Yeah, I agree. I'm kind of generalizing there, but I do think that for the most part, this holds true. Packed or wet snow, it'll probably be ok. Otherwise, I just think its a bit too aggressive.
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    I'm not sure I understand why having big knobs would make it a bad snow tire. I've been in a lot of situations where the endomorph spun, and I was wishing for more knobs. Just because it has big knobs doesn't mean it won't float. It has the volume. I'd imagine that it will sink to the casing, while the big knobs dig in hard.

    If it gets packed with snow...well that might be another situation.

    Can someone explain why it would be bad?

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    Snowmachine trails have a crust layer of frozen, consolidated snow that we ride on. Big knobs could make it more likely that you will dig into that crust layer instead of sitting on top of it. Dig in, spin a little, and you're more likely to break through, which sucks. I think Nate will definitely have applications though. Fresh snow, soft snow. We'll have to see when the stuff shows up.

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    They look superb, get a review up!

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    all about the options, and the nate is just one of them...really cool to see different tire setups showing up...for our terrain here in PA this would be awesome in the winter.

    Small amounts of snow, large amounts of slop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222 View Post
    I'm not sure I understand why having big knobs would make it a bad snow tire. I've been in a lot of situations where the endomorph spun, and I was wishing for more knobs. Just because it has big knobs doesn't mean it won't float. It has the volume. I'd imagine that it will sink to the casing, while the big knobs dig in hard.

    If it gets packed with snow...well that might be another situation.

    Can someone explain why it would be bad?
    Are you saying that if Nates get packed with snow, that that is bad...or good?

    Many years ago, I recall reading in a trucking mag about snow driving, the article
    stated that when drivers noticed that their drive tires were getting snow packed, that
    that was good, The idea being that snow pushing against snow would provide the
    greatest amount of grip.

    Can you guys in the far north or elsewhere confirm this?

    The open tread of the Nates do not look to be conductive to becoming snow packed.

    Also snow conditions very so much from time to time and place to place that it is difficult
    to pick a tread design without knowing what best to prepare for.

    Personaly, I would favor moderate tread spacing with lots of sipes, and a compound
    for cold temps, like car/truck tires. Don't exist as far as I know for bikes. We are left to
    make do with what we have or can cut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    Are you saying that if Nates get packed with snow, that that is bad...or good?
    I guess I assumed that them getting packed with snow would be bad because of increased buildup, weight, rubbing...all the reasons that mud can bring you to a grinding halt.

    I guess we'll just have see with the Nates. Personally, I'm banking on them being a better all around option for dirt, mud, or snow. They still have the volume, but they'll have way, way more traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222 View Post
    I'm not sure I understand why having big knobs would make it a bad snow tire. I've been in a lot of situations where the endomorph spun, and I was wishing for more knobs. Just because it has big knobs doesn't mean it won't float. It has the volume. I'd imagine that it will sink to the casing, while the big knobs dig in hard.

    If it gets packed with snow...well that might be another situation.

    Can someone explain why it would be bad?
    Packed snow can be a funny surface. Good support and grip as long as it holds together. Too big knobs can break through the surface and break the frozen bonds holding it all together allowing the tire to at best spin out and at worst drop in. Not clear to me if that will happen with Nate but the potential is there.
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    I have them also... grip is awesome!


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    Nate on rear which should stop the occasional tire spin I have in the rear when riding in wet/muddy swamp like areas.[/QUOTE]

    Have you tried it yet? Is it better than the Larrys for your area?

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    anyone in the UK got any NATES in stock to order ?

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    Check with Charlie the Bikemonger Cozz, he said he is doing all the new Surly stuff
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    cool will do

    been rinding through boggy areas in the new forest this week, and the endo is spinning up a lot, got a larry on the front, but loving the look of the nates !!


    seems they are around stateside and yet again we are playing catch up here in the UK !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLA Grizzly View Post
    Nate on rear which should stop the occasional tire spin I have in the rear when riding in wet/muddy swamp like areas.
    Have you tried it yet? Is it better than the Larrys for your area?[/QUOTE]

    Not yet, have been on the road since Nate arrived. Will be another week or so before I can try it out.

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    The new tyres etc won't be shown as available until the end of the month.

    I managed to get my lbs to ring ID and put in a back order though. (To encourage them to order the things from USA in the first place).
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    Just got conformation that my Nate / BFL are now on their way from States (Fatbikes.com) should be in UK in around 10 days
    Can't wait because as good as the Larry is, it is pants for traction in gloopy mud. Good fun, but not much use for forward momentum
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorman View Post
    Just got conformation that my Nate / BFL are now on their way from States (Fatbikes.com) should be in UK in around 10 days
    Can't wait because as good as the Larry is, it is pants for traction in gloopy mud. Good fun, but not much use for forward momentum
    As I've been riding Nate around (front and rear), I keep thinking to myself, "The UK bog-riding guys are going to love these". Traction is outstanding, and they don't pack up.

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    Incremental review: I put some more miles on my 27 tpi Nate tires - I will have to confirm against a 120 tpi Nate, but they do give an unforgiving impression. I'm not using them for their intended purpose, really, so take it with a grain of salt.

    I think my summer mode next year will consist of a Nate in the front for its sheer excess in turning grip and round profile, and something faster / lighter in the back.

    I'm going to explore some muck this weekend and will get back about that .

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    Ison have a batch hitting the uk end of sept - I've just ordered the last one ! Then next lot in dec !!!

    I think a lot of people under estimate the interest in fat parts !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    I'm going to explore some muck this weekend and will get back about that .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
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    I can echo the thought that they squirm a bit on hard pack. They also don't feel as supple over roots. I wonder how much that has to do with the fact that I'm riding the 27 tpi version. I kinda want to sell these and try the more spendy variety.

    They are an absolute bear on pavement. Anyone surprised by that? Moving on...

    It tracks really nicely up front. The profile is very round / rotund. Almost ellipsoidal on these narrower rims... to the degree that I'd probably be better off on 70mm rims during summer use with these.

    Grip: lots. I immediately went to three trouble spots on local hills: where I usually spin out, this time I (1) stalled because I couldn't push the gear with my dinglespeed, (2) stalled again, same reason, on a hill that is awkward to walk up, and (3) cleaned it!

    I could feel the additional wheel weight. Not enough for me to care too badly.

    EDIT: I did spin out once. It was a non challenging hill and I was riding with intentional weight too far forward and choppy pedaling. Normally the rear would be all over, but it stuck, until it let loose quiet suddenly and obviously. Just an ounce of good form and it hooked back up.
    Not to try to get off topic, but Drew, what kind of drivetrain setup do you have gong on in that last pic? The chain looks like it is made entirely out of half links!!

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    New question here.

    Got my second Nate last Tuesday and just got it mounted up on the rear today. After wiggling it on the rim, a LM, I noticed I had it backwards. Gonna try it that way as it looks like it will bone up the traction. Maybe get a ride Sunday morning after work.

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    How many different versions of the Nate tire are there? I know there are 27 tpi and 120 tpi, but these are both steel beads I think? Is there going to be a kevlar bead as well?

    I ride in the winter with lots of singletrack, roots, and wet snow, and am hoping to try some of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetness View Post
    How many different versions of the Nate tire are there? I know there are 27 tpi and 120 tpi, but these are both steel beads I think? Is there going to be a kevlar bead as well?
    There are 3 different Nates... 27tpi steel bead, 120tpi steel bead, and the 120tpi folding bead.

    The 120tpi folding Nate is supposed to be arriving next week.

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    Charliethebikemonger is out of stock

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    Has anyone heard when the Kevlar Nate tire may be released? Just trying to decide whether or not I should wait, or buy the wire bead.

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    QBP says 09/27/11 so not much longer.

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    Nate is now running tubeless at 8psi. Hit the dirt today; much awesomeness. The extra weight is well worth the extra traction. Looking forward to the mud this winter!

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    Love these things! Can't wait for some snow so I can see how they work in the different snow conditions. Been wanting fat tires with more tread on them ever since the Gazos went away.

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