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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Since the trend seems to be to break away from the massive and hard to read/hard to follow generic Moto fat bikes thread, I figured I would start one for the Sturgis & Night Train.

    I have a Night Train Bullet on order. Looking forward to it showing up, unfortunately, the reciept I have shows a ship date of 11/05. Other folks had ones earlier in October.

    Anyway - Three questions to get this ball rolling:

    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat?
    2 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all?
    3 - What date did your ship notice show?

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    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat?
    - I've got a reverb that doesn't fit any of my existing bikes, so that will go on
    - Saddle/bars/grips. I know what works for me and I'm pretty sure what it comes with isn't it.
    - Tires are a maybe.

    2 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all?
    Snow. I'm sure I'll bring it out for some trail rides done at a social pace. I don't expect it to become my "go to" bike though.

    3 - What date did your ship notice show?
    Mine shows Oct 28th as a ship date. I don't think it means much though. They'll all go out within a matter of days once the pallets arrive at BD. I ordered mine at a time when they were adjusting the estimated ship date. I think the ordering system just hadn't been updated yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    1 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all?
    Snow. I'm sure I'll bring it out for some trail rides done at a social pace. I don't expect it to become my "go to" bike though.
    All conditions riding! I already have Easton Haven stem and post, RXL 720mm carbon bars, ESI grips, Prologo seat ready to go on.

    Spring time will call for lighter wheels and hopefully 27.5 tires to get it ready for the trails...can't wait!

    Also can't wait for the snow to fly (never thought I would say that) but this will be the 1st winter on a snow bike for fat bike for that matter...Bring it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsth View Post
    Anyway - Three questions to get this ball rolling:

    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat?

    2 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all?

    3 - What date did your ship notice show?
    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat?
    Bars, saddle, stem, grips, etc...point of contact, cockpit fit type stuff.
    Actually considering purchasing a Framed Alaskan Carbon frame for a switch out.
    As this is my first FB, I'm waiting for a minute to test it out and be sure about sizing before going forward with this one...hard to be patient though


    2 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all?
    I live in NorCal so it will be a trail bike. Not much snow/sand riding where I am. Might get up to Tahoe once in a while for some snow but not regularly.

    3 - What date did your ship notice show?
    Oct 18...hoping the possible delay they emailed about doesn't happen but prepared if it doesn't come until late Oct.
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    Long time reader... First Time Poster

    On fence to pre-order still. This'll be my first new MTB since middle school (20 years ago) I'm still rocking my Trek 7000 hard tail.

    That said.... new bike lust is high with this bike, have ridden a few fat boys and farleys. Really wanting a bluto equipped fat tire bike, and the specs on this bike make it worth it for the components alone.

    If i do order, I'll likely change nothing right off the bat, to get a feel for the bike, and then in order go 1x10 w/ WolfsTooth/OneUP 42 tooth, Seat, Grips.

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    WSUPolar...I warn you. I had a 97 Stumpjumper and finally bought a new bike - 2010 Stumpjumper Carbon Expert. Was an amazing upgrade, but broke the seal o years of holding back. Since then, bought am Airborne Wingman for dirt jump, and now the Night Train Bullet is on order. Too many bikes, too little time.
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    [QUOTE=pearsth;11467150]Anyway - Three questions to get this ball rolling:
    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat?
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    Forgot to add that I have already upgraded my wheelset. Got a great set built up by mikesee. I9 hubs and Mulefut rims with Bud/Lou combo. Maybe overkill for NorCal dirt but whatever...it'll be fun

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    Just changed to Sturgis Bullet White 10/28. (Green non-bullet Sturgis cancelled) I'm just getting into cycling. I'm liking the skinny tire road bike and want to continue riding into the winter so Fat seems like a good way to go. From what I can tell, the bike is setup fine the way it is and I won't know what to add or change until I ride the thing.
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    Black Night Train ordered! Looking forward to riding the snowmobile and ski trails this winter here in Maine! ...and it just might become my year round trail bike, too!

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    I have a Sturgis Bullet on order. Ship date was late October but then got an email about it probably going into November.

    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat? - Yes. My pile of parts for bikes I do not have yet is getting silly. I have carbon bars (Bontrager XXX, XT brakes, FSA Seatpost, grips and tubeless stuff already).
    2 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all? Bought this one as a winter bike. I will be going rigid and putting the Bluto on my Salsa Bucksaw frame once it comes (Jan delivery).
    3 - What date did your ship notice show?

    I was tempted to get the red but ended up with the charcoal.

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    As tempting as the prices may be, this guy reviewed a Night Train prototype- granted it had double-walled rims, but at 37 lbs with no pedals...wow that is a lot of bike to be pushing around.

    First Ride: 2015 Motobecane NightTrain Bullet Fatbike | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

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    That's true. I wonder though with the brake and rim upgrade, then a seat post, stem, handlebar, saddle switch and a split tube what the weight could be for just a couple hundred more dollars.

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    I'm sure the excess weight is more in the frame. Part of the deal when its that much cheaper. I may end up with one of these because name brand bikes are too much money. I just looked at new KTM 300 Xcw for $7000 out the door so why the hell should a bicycle cost in the same neighborhood as a fully decked out enduro motorcycle?

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    There's a guy who knows nice dirt bikes! KTM makes some really nice stuff.

    I don't mean to knock the Motobecane stuff either- just kind of thinking out loud. Even buying a Fatboy Expert, for example, and adding a Bluto yourself (and a hub, etc.) you are likely pushing $3,500.00.

    Certainly it'll be lighter than a Sturgis or NightTrain...but, is it worth more than twice the price? I don't know.

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    One thing I found in the comments section is that the author mentioned that the production bike would have lighter tires.

    He also menitoned that he had hoped to post the final review before Interbike but some last minute part swaps (like adding Guide brakes which will be shipping with the Night Train) have delayed things a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by NDTransplant View Post
    As tempting as the prices may be, this guy reviewed a Night Train prototype- granted it had double-walled rims, but at 37 lbs with no pedals...wow that is a lot of bike to be pushing around.

    First Ride: 2015 Motobecane NightTrain Bullet Fatbike | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

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    That's true. And with the lighter wheel set, and maybe putting in some lighter tubes (Q-Tubes?)...or, of course, tubeless.

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    I was active in the MB thread back in August when trying to figure out what to order, especially size-wise.

    Did anyone notice the new sizing chart on the Night Train/Sturgis? I am 5'8" and almost always ride a "medium" or 17" frame. Which all happens to be about 585-590mm effective top tube. When I ordered in August, the 15.5" had an ETT of 593mm. The 17.5" had an ETT of 598mm. When I emailed BD to question the paltry5mm difference in a 2" larger bike, they said "due to the fat tires, we can only make a frame so short without toe overlap". So I ordered the 15.5" for the extra standover.

    However, on their website now, the 15.5" has been updated to a 575mm ETT! (17.5" remains at 598mm) Which will be far too short for me. Anyone who could decide between the 15.5 or 17.5" frame and decided on the 15.5", I would strongly recommend you go back and review the geometry chart again now that they've updated it. The 15.5" now falls in line with my original expectations of size with a very short 575mm ETT.

    I've now changed my order to a 17.5" frame as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    I was active in the MB thread back in August when trying to figure out what to order, especially size-wise.

    Did anyone notice the new sizing chart on the Night Train/Sturgis?

    However, on their website now, the 15.5" has been updated to a 575mm ETT! (17.5" remains at 598mm) Which will be far too short for me. Anyone who could decide between the 15.5 or 17.5" frame and decided on the 15.5", I would strongly recommend you go back and review the geometry chart again now that they've updated it. The 15.5" now falls in line with my original expectations of size with a very short 575mm ETT.
    Argh!!! That is pretty frustrating to find out. I wonder if they ever intended to tell any of us that have orders in for the 15" now 15.5"?

    Checking the specs compared to my current ride, it seems I should be on the 17.5" as well. In reality, I think I could fit either size with a stem adjustment but I don't want toe overlap. I wouldn't mind the extra standover and just getting a longer stem either.

    To those in the know...what are the pros/cons of going with the smaller size when you are a tweener?
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    Hi All. I have a Sturgis Bullet on order. Anyone know what the rim size is? Here is what is on their website:

    WEINMANN HL80 ALLOY SINGLE WALL 26" x 73/80xH24 , 26x3.0-4-1/2 ,32H,W/FV BLACK ANOD.W/O EYELET , W/O CNC , W/ BIG HOLES ( 32mm ) / 14Gx64PCS STAINLESS W/BRASS 14MM NIPPLE.

    Does this mean 80mm? Thanks.

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    Yeah it is an 80mm rim.

    I will disagree about the Motobecane frames being heavy - at least the one I have. I have a Fantom 29er Pro and stripped it down to the frame and it was very light. Under 4lbs for a large size frame. Not too bad for a budget frame. Obviously with the wider profile the Sturgis/NT frames will be heavier but not by too much. The Boris weights seem to be coming in at normal fat bike numbers, given the build spec. I have new bars and seatpost coming - the MB ones are very heavy.

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    thanks for the reply. I haven't even gotten the bike yet and I'm wondering if 29+ wheels will fit. Anyone with any thoughts or guesses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    thanks for the reply. I haven't even gotten the bike yet and I'm wondering if 29+ wheels will fit. Anyone with any thoughts or guesses?
    I am guessing they will, but I'm holding out for some mid sized 27.5 alum rims to be released. Possibly the Hugo or similar setup under 65 mm wide. Also waiting for a decent tire in the mid 3's to match up with tweeter rims. This bike comes stock setup for snow and sand, but it will sail thru the trails with better wheels and tires!
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    How come there is no small frames (15.5) with the Bluto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcriverjunky View Post
    How come there is no small frames (15.5) with the Bluto?
    Sold out maybe? I had a 15.5" Night Train Bullet ordered back in August. Then changed my mind and confirmed a 15.5" Sturgis Bullet. And now went to a 17.5" (non-bullet). Unless this is another change that the 15.5" won't clear the Bluto fork anymore due to the updated geometry.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Anyone know if the surly ice cream truck fork will fit the bullet models in place of the bluto? From what I can tell it should.

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    Surly ICT /483mm axle to crown, 47mm offset. Now all you have to do is find out the NT #'s

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    Sold out maybe? I had a 15.5" Night Train Bullet ordered back in August. Then changed my mind and confirmed a 15.5" Sturgis Bullet. And now went to a 17.5" (non-bullet). Unless this is another change that the 15.5" won't clear the Bluto fork anymore due to the updated geometry.
    So there was some listed. Guess I'll keep waiting.

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    I have a white 19Ē on order. As for changes? Iím a single speed guy so I will consider converting the Bullet to SS and selling the extra parts. If I really like it I might pick up a Carbon frame unbranded and move all of the parts over I need and sell off all of the extra stuff. So far as I can tell the Bullet with Bluto is about the best deal out there, if there is a better one I havenít found it.

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    Would anyone care to comment on why they for for the sturgis or night train? Are the upgraded tires and brakes worth it? I guess higher tpi tires are better? I have a sturgis bullet in order but am now considering upgrading for the extra $200. I would love to get some thoughts from anyone who has them. Thanks.

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    Would anyone care to comment on why they for for the sturgis or night train? Are the upgraded tires and brakes worth it? I guess higher tpi tires are better? I have a sturgis bullet in order but am now considering upgrading for the extra $200. I would love to get some thoughts from anyone who has them. Thanks.
    Better brakes makes a big difference on heavy bikes. That and the upgraded drive train was worth the extra $200 for me.

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    That's great to know. I don't have any experience with fat bikes so I I'm buying blind to some degree(aside from online research of course.)

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    It looks like by upgrading my order from Sturgis to Sturgis bullet, I'm losing the series of 3 bolts on each side of the fork. I wonder if I'll miss that?

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    I went with the Sturgis Bullet - mostly because of cost and I will probably end up swapping the brakes to Shimano anyway (already have 5 MTB's in the house with Shimano brakes), tires and rear derailleurs are consumables - I will have to replace them anyway. Either bike is a great deal, but having already bought 3 new bikes this year AND putting a deposit on a new Salsa Bucksaw I figured the $200 saved was a better option for me than the X9 stuff.

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    Parts on the Night Train that are "better" than the Sturgis:

    Price Comparison On Amazon.com
    Rear Derailer - x9 vs x7 (About $30 difference)
    Shifters - x7 vs x5 (About $12 difference)
    Brakes - Guide RS vs Tektro Draco (About $170 / pair difference)

    Price Comparison on eBay
    Tires - 120TP vs 72TPI (Around $50 / pair difference)

    So, for $200, getting around $262 retail "better" stuff to upgrade to the Night Train. Keep in mind that that is the DIFFERENCE in price buying new. Not the price to replace something with an upgrade. For example, if you want to upgrade the tires to 120TPI, you are looking at spending $150-$200. At that point you've blown it assuming you don't mind the Vee Snowshoe for a 120tpi tire. I doubt you could sell the "take offs" at full retail price to get to the $50 difference. Likewise for the rest of the parts, especially the brakes.

    If somebody is trying to determine what to buy, I would say if you are like the poster above and plan to swap things out, get the lower priced version. If you are like me, and plan on riding "as is", the $200 may be worth it - assuming the Guide RS are that much better and the weight of the tires matters to you. I will say that I have Tektro Draco brakes on my jump bike and they work just fine and don't give me any issues. However, that is with 26" wheels on a bike that I just play around on and don't ride much. Fat Bike mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    Unless this is another change that the 15.5" won't clear the Bluto fork anymore due to the updated geometry.
    Do you have information that this is true? Or just speculating?

    I haven't received any info from BD about this but would be really unhappy if there ends up being a clearance issue for the Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    Do you have information that this is true? Or just speculating?

    I haven't received any info from BD about this but would be really unhappy if there ends up being a clearance issue for the Bluto.
    Purely speculation in the absence of any official information. But it would be odd that all 15.5" frames sold out before the more traditional 17"/19" sizes.

    However, the new frame geometry of the 15.5" is truth according to their latest frame geometry on their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    Purely speculation in the absence of any official information. But it would be odd that all 15.5" frames sold out before the more traditional 17"/19" sizes.

    However, the new frame geometry of the 15.5" is truth according to their latest frame geometry on their website.
    I hear ya. When I ordered mine it was a 15" not 15.5". The "silent" geometry change with a lack of contacting anyone that ordered one when the old geo charts were up is pretty lame. I have an email into BD about changing to the 17.5" as it is now closer to my current rig.

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    Since this is an experiment in fat biking for me and I will likely change out to SS I stopped at the Bullet with Bluto fork. I was going to go rigid but reviews of the Bluto seem favorable so that's where my extra money went. If and when I get different tires I will want the choice of the market.

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    Chose the Sturgis Bullet as I plan to replace the tires and can use the $200 saved (vs the Nighttrain Bullet) towards those. But I had to think about this for a while as all of the bikes seem like great deals making it hard to choose.

    By the way here is the stock as of this morning. To check stock just add about 10 to your cart and press "check out" it comes back with how many are available.

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    Sturgis/Night train suspension corrected? Any of you geometry guru's have thoughts on if the frame is as lively with a suspension fork as without. A friend rode the new Trek Farley with Bluto and said it was razor quick. The Bullet/Night train frame and Farley have the same seat/head tube angles. In the pictures it looks set back more vs. the non suspension model.

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    Singletracks Final Review of the NightTrain Bullet is up and it goes into a bit more detail as to how the bike rides.

    "Steep climbs were a cinch, and I didnít really need any of my usual tricks to avoid breaking traction while ascending slippery roots and loose rocks. Rock gardens that normally required concentration to maintain a reasonable line were navigable on autopilot. Steep, rolling drops felt less daunting; I was, after all, riding on a pair of donut-shaped marshmallows. Chunky, fast descents were a breeze thanks to the Bluto suspension fork."

    Final Review: Motobecane NightTrain Bullet Fat Bike | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

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    Only about a month to go. :-)

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    I have officially upgraded from sturgis to night train!



    Quote Originally Posted by GaryBee View Post
    Singletracks Final Review of the NightTrain Bullet is up and it goes into a bit more detail as to how the bike rides.

    "Steep climbs were a cinch, and I didnít really need any of my usual tricks to avoid breaking traction while ascending slippery roots and loose rocks. Rock gardens that normally required concentration to maintain a reasonable line were navigable on autopilot. Steep, rolling drops felt less daunting; I was, after all, riding on a pair of donut-shaped marshmallows. Chunky, fast descents were a breeze thanks to the Bluto suspension fork."

    Final Review: Motobecane NightTrain Bullet Fat Bike | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

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    If I got a sturgis and I want to get a ice cream truck frame in the future could I swap all the parts over? It seems the rims are the same size. How about the crank and bb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoobash View Post
    If I got a sturgis and I want to get a ice cream truck frame in the future could I swap all the parts over? It seems the rims are the same size. How about the crank and bb?
    The BB is a definite no. The crank is a maybe. It should fit but you might need some ~2mm spacers.
    The lower headset is a no. Not sure about the upper.
    The seatpost and saddle clamp are a no. The front derailleur looks to be a no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoobash View Post
    If I got a sturgis and I want to get a ice cream truck frame in the future could I swap all the parts over? It seems the rims are the same size. How about the crank and bb?
    I got my Sturgis Bullet ordered, then test rode a Salsa Bucksaw at a demo day. I thought, hey I can buy the Bucksaw frame and swap all the parts over. Seemed like a good idea, but the only parts that will really swap over are front wheel, Bluto (I hope the steer tube is long enough), rear derailleur and shifter. I ended up just buying all new parts for the Bucksaw - and several upgrade parts for the Sturgis. :-)
    I really hope the Bluto will work, but then I need to find a rigid fork that will fit the Sturgis, but should be cheaper than a $550 Bluto.

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    I received the following email from BD today. Looks like the NT/Sturgis are en route to the states. More bikes and separate frames/forks due the beginning of next year. (bold added by me)
    Hi, Thank you for pre-ordering a New Motobecane FatBike.

    Many customers have the idea that we get bikes from just one factory. The fact is; we receive bikes from 3 different factories in Taiwan and 3 different factories in China.

    The Factory that produces the Sturgis, Night Train, Lurch, and Boris The Brut FAT BIKE models is unsurpassed in quality by ANY factory in Asia. However, like all bicycle factories, their volume and experience with Fat Bikes is limited. Fat Bikes are after all a small and relatively new market.

    Our first run of Lurchs sold out and reviews by customers have been fantastic overall. However, we felt packing could be improved. Therefore, our CEO had the factory slow down production, increase inspections, and improve packing. In order to meet shipping requests, the factory had workers over time during the weekend.

    Great News; the Sturgis and Night Train models are on the way. Better News; we feel there are no higher quality aluminum Fat Bikes produced.

    Based on latest shipping confirmation these bikes could arrive at our Dallas warehouse anywhere from October 27th to November 10th. We wish that links in the distribution chain was as predictable as links in a bike chain. Of course, ocean vessels, trains, longshoremen, US Customs, and local truckers all have their own ideas on timely execution of their duties.

    We are very excited to see the customer response to these bikes.

    In January, Sturgis Bullet framesets will be available AND an extra shipment of complete Sturgis / Night Train bikes. Also in January, we will get Sturgis AL forks, Sturgis Express CF forks, and Lurch chrome-moly forks.

    Thanks again,

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    SO EXCITED!!!! now I just have to keep myself occupied until the end of the month.

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    I am glad they put the bit about the CF Sturgis forks in January. That is about the time I will be needing one! And being a BD product I know it will be reasonably priced.

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    So if I regret getting a Bluto I can order up an aluminum one in January? I wonder what color forks they'll have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsth View Post

    Anyway - Three questions to get this ball rolling:

    1 - Are you going to change anything right off the bat?
    2 - Did you buy for winter, sand, trail, or all?
    3 - What date did your ship notice show?
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    Orange Sturgis, Size 17.5

    1. Thomson seatpost that I had laying around from upgrading to dropper posts on other bikes, Avid DB3 brakes and rotors that I got on Ebay new for $31 shipped...apparently nobody likes white brakes anymore. San Marco Aspide saddle, 700mm Carbon Ritchey handlebar, 50mm Truvativ stem or 70mm Syncros stem whichever feels better, light-weight tubes from pricepoint, probably will swap the nipples to anodized aluminum for kicks since I have so many kicking around.

    2. Mostly winter here too (Maine.) So many snowmobile trails that I have ridden for years on old 2.7 Nokian Gazzalodis but this should be much better and hopefully keep me somewhat fit through winter so I am not such a slug come spring. I really look forward to trying it in summer although I have been a devout full-sus-tons-of-travel rider since my first Heckler in 1997.

    3. 10/20-10/28

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    Which rubes at pricepioint? Have a link?

    Anyone guess what the stock ones will weigh?
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    Price Point Tube | Inner tube | Presta | Schrader | Valve

    I will get schrader and drill the rims because I can't tolerate presta valves and when I go tubeless I use the 949Racing valves. I will get the 2.25-2.5 tubes. I have one left over that I pumped up to about 5" in diameter without being in a tire and it has been fine for over a month now. They stretch enough.

    My guess at stock tube weight: too much.

    Also, If someone is looking to upgrade the bar (as stock probably weighs a ton) price point has the the Easton Haven bar in low rise 711mm width for only $28 and uncut it is 270g which is respectable for an aluminum bar. I have had one on my Butcher for a year and a half and I love it, stiff and I dig the polished aluminum look. The finish is durable but the white and black graphics come off somewhat easily. But for $28 a name-brand bar that is fairly light can't be beat. Easton Haven Lo Rise 711mm 31.8 Limited Silver Handlebar | Easton

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    Only a couple weeks out now...someone has to be getting excited. I know I am. I was hoping for a suprise 6" of snow; we got that much on Halloween two years ago but right now we are still having days in the mid-70's.

    Like someone said in another Motobecane thread, I don't think I would have been thinking of upgrades if I didn't have to wait for it.

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    My ship window opened 4 days ago, so I was hoping for mid October delivery. Sounds like early to mid November is most likely. Slightly disappointing, but I will get over it.

    Trying to decide on an accent color that would make it pop. I've already got a shorter stem for it. Definitely getting some nice flats, a dropper, grips, and maybe bars. And a 4.0 Nate for the snow.

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    Yeah...well, don't get too excited. The date range is wider...Oct 27 - Nov 10. So, could come to you as late as 11/17 (or later, especially if they all show up in Texas on Nov 10) depending on where you are in the country.

    Since these come signature required, that almost always screws me up. Those guys ring the doorbell, throw the sticker on the door, and run like hell back to the truck to meet their delivery quotas. That means I have to wait until the weekend to get the bike.

    I am setting my expectations to being happy if I get the bike before Thanksgiving so I am not too disappointed if that happens..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    My ship window opened 4 days ago, so I was hoping for mid October delivery. Sounds like early to mid November is most likely. Slightly disappointing, but I will get over it.
    What makes you think that it will be so much later? My window is the 20th to the 1st I think but I haven't received any sort of notification that it will be delayed. I assumed it would be the tail end of the time frame but of course have some small hope that it will be at the early end.

    I did notice that the 17.5 Sturgis is sold out in both colors so I am ggd I ordered when I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvbullit View Post
    What makes you think that it will be so much later? My window is the 20th to the 1st I think but I haven't received any sort of notification that it will be delayed. I assumed it would be the tail end of the time frame but of course have some small hope that it will be at the early end.

    I did notice that the 17.5 Sturgis is sold out in both colors so I am ggd I ordered when I did.
    A while ago some folks that ordered early were sent an email about a possible 2 week delay due to sourcing issues.

    My original ship date was/is Oct 18. I am not planning on it shipping until the end of the month. If it comes earlier, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

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    I posted the estimated ship date from BD in post #48. Current schedule is October 27th to November 10th.

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    Here is the letter from BikesDirect in case you didn't get it... It was sent on 10/7.


    Hi, Thank you for pre-ordering a New Motobecane FatBike.

    Many customers have the idea that we get bikes from just one factory. The fact is; we receive bikes from 3 different factories in Taiwan and 3 different factories in China.

    The Factory that produces the Sturgis, Night Train, Lurch, and Boris The Brut FAT BIKE models is unsurpassed in quality by ANY factory in Asia. However, like all bicycle factories, their volume and experience with Fat Bikes is limited. Fat Bikes are after all a small and relatively new market.

    Our first run of Lurchs sold out and reviews by customers have been fantastic overall. However, we felt packing could be improved. Therefore, our CEO had the factory slow down production, increase inspections, and improve packing. In order to meet shipping requests, the factory had workers over time during the weekend.

    Great News; the Sturgis and Night Train models are on the way. Better News; we feel there are no higher quality aluminum Fat Bikes produced.

    Based on latest shipping confirmation these bikes could arrive at our Dallas warehouse anywhere from October 27th to November 10th. We wish that links in the distribution chain was as predictable as links in a bike chain. Of course, ocean vessels, trains, longshoremen, US Customs, and local truckers all have their own ideas on timely execution of their duties.

    We are very excited to see the customer response to these bikes.

    In January, Sturgis Bullet framesets will be available AND an extra shipment of complete Sturgis / Night Train bikes. Also in January, we will get Sturgis AL forks, Sturgis Express CF forks, and Lurch chrome-moly forks.


    Thanks again,


    Order Processing Team at Bikes Direct


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    Here is the text from the email I received on August 13.


    Hi, Thanks for being a smart cyclist and saving hundreds on your new Motobecane FatBike.

    Update on your order - these incredibly fun Fat Bikes are nearly pre-sold out! Wow! Due to production timing and availability, specialty Fat Bike parts are in short supply. Major parts suppliers have communicated minor delays so these are running a little later than projected. Even though it's only about 10 to 11 days later, we wanted to make sure you were made aware of this possibility. There is a small chance they will not be delayed but we are updating the arrival dates on the site just in case. If this is a deal breaker for you, PLEASE LET US KNOW RIGHT AWAY AND WE CAN REFUND YOU IN FULL.

    Thanks again for being a smart cyclist and saving hundreds off your new Motobecane FatBike.

    Best regards,

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    Anyone looking ahead to the spring and summer and thinking about what tires to put on these bad boys? Anyone going to keep the snowshoes on? I'm thinking maybe knard 3.8s.

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    I find it odd that I never get any of these update emails at all.


    As far as tires I am going to run the stock ones to the cords since fat bike tires are so damn expensive.

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    Check your spam folder....
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    ordered the sturgis bullet, since I waited too long to pull trigger on night train.. ... I plan on tossing on one floaters during the summer,, i've been real happy with them on my pug for the last two years... and the cost is more gentle on the wallet

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    A little off topic....

    Would any of the current Stages powermeter crank arms work with the stock Samox crank arm on the Night Train?

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    Anyone have a MatteSilver NightTrain Bullet? Wondering how it looks in person. Really wanted the matte black but no stock ;(
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    Go to the first page of this thread. I posted a pic of a matte silver fantom29. Should give you the idea.
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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesy22 View Post
    Anyone have a MatteSilver NightTrain Bullet? Wondering how it looks in person. Really wanted the matte black but no stock ;(
    They have pics of the actual matte silver on the site. They were updated from the photoshopped ones a little while back.

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    Anyone know if the seat post is internal routing for a dropper? Such as the integra?
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    Someone cancel their medium or large order for the matte black NightTrain bullet so I can order one lol
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    I have a Sturgis Bullet gunmetal gray metallic in 19 inch on order.

    I have a Easton EA70 400mm seat post and a Specialized Henge seat ready to go on it. I also have a spare X9 type 2 medium rear derailleur I may install if I don't like the x7 long RD. I will probably get a 750mm bar and shorter stem at some point.

    I will try tubeless with gorilla tape and homemade sealant.

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    Well pretty upset. Went ahead and tried to buy the silver and it wouldn't let me. Said sold out even though its in the drop down box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesy22 View Post
    Well pretty upset. Went ahead and tried to buy the silver and it wouldn't let me. Said sold out even though its in the drop down box.
    Some thing happened to me with the Boris. The drop downs do not get updated as often as their stock changes. You should reach out to them to see if there is a wait list in case some people cancel orders.

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    Soon to be added to the BD aresenal...Night Train Frame/Bluto combo...

    From their FB page...

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bikesdirect/122199864367

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    #Motobecane #Sturgis Bullet #Fatbike Framesets Will Be In About January 15th
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    FrameSet Sale Price Includes Rockshox Bluto And Headset
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    $1995 Value - These Will Be $895

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    Ive called and begged lol..No luck. If i wait till mid Jan. winter will be half over..
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    The Date Approaches!!!!!

    I ordered a17.5" Sturgis Bullet in Gunmetal Grey. ship date 11/05(but im hoping for sooner so I could maybe catch the last weekend of riding at mountain creek)

    I plan on swapping the saddle for a brooks cambium

    and trying out a dropper seat post for the first time [this seems like a decent inexpensive one](Amazon.com : DNM Mountain Bike Dropper Seatpost Remote Lockout 330mm : Bike Seat Posts And Parts : Sports & Outdoors).

    planning on going tubeless

    and swapping a shorter stem, maybe a 70mm

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    Anyone buy the NightTrain and a bluto separately? Go on ok? Thinking of doing this since all the Bullets are out of stock till Jan
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    I am not sure if anyone noticed but the Motobecane website shows the headtube angle at 69.5 and BD lists it as 70. I kind hope for the slack measurement to be correct. I haven't owned a bike steeper than 67 degrees in over a decade.

    My solution to a dropper on the fatbike will be a Salsa QR seatpost collar. Strava be damned.

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    The photo for the WR Green Sturgis has also been updated to reflect the correct brakes, the 72dpi Snowshoes, and single-wall rims from what I can see.

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    Anyone converting to 1 by 10? I'm thinking of getting a next sl and swapping from the beginning. Maybe I could get a few dollars for the samox crankset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    Anyone converting to 1 by 10? I'm thinking of getting a next sl and swapping from the beginning. Maybe I could get a few dollars for the samox crankset.
    Yes most likely after winter riding. Could also just pony up 30 bucks for the NW chainring and slap it on the Samox.
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    True. I don't have the legs for that. I would need to get a 42t cog for that cuz I would think the smallest front chainring that is possible is a 30t correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    True. I don't have the legs for that. I would need to get a 42t cog for that cuz I would think the smallest front chainring that is possible is a 30t correct?
    Yeah only 30T on the single ring...direct mount on a Next or Turbine cinch would allow 26, 28T. Been seeing successful fat bikes with the 40-42 cog conversion too. I think 1 x 10,11 makes sense for a lot of riders and can be done... Go for it!
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    I have a next SL on my other mountain bike and love it. I go back and forth. It makes more monetary sense to go with a 30t up front and a 42t in back but then I'm looking at $150 for something that may have chain line issues(I've heard chain drops with back pedaling) or slow shifting into the smaller rear cogs. I'll pay triple the price for a next sl with a 26t front ring with a smaller range but I know it will work. Hmmmm.....

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    I have a next SL on my other mountain bike and love it. I go back and forth. It makes more monetary sense to go with a 30t up front and a 42t in back but then I'm looking at $150 for something that may have chain line issues(I've heard chain drops with back pedaling) or slow shifting into the smaller rear cogs. I'll pay triple the price for a next sl with a 26t front ring with a smaller range but I know it will work. Hmmmm.....
    Go with he new turbine cinch with a direct mount and save $250 over the next sl. I like the next sl but can't justify the 1/4 lb savings for about $250.

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    1x is still useless to me. I love to chug up technical uphills even if a little trials maneuvers are required but the trails here also have plenty of moderate downhills that you have to pedal for if you want to get going 25+ mph and anything smaller than a 34t will spin out.

    I get trying to simplify but I have never had a front derailleur fail on a ride and the gearing range seems worth the "clutter."

    It must be that northeast trails are tougher and the buff superhighway singletrack out west allows for higher gearing. When I lived in Colo Spgs 25 miles was a solid ride and back here in Maine 12+ miles pretty much poops me out.

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    Anyone see the Boris Bluto they now have?

    Save up to 60% off new Fat Bikes and Mountain Bikes - MTB - Motobecane Boris X9 SRAM

    I originally wanted a Boris X9 (rigid) but they were sold out, so I went "all in" and went Night Train Bullet. I am thinking of switching over to the Boris X9 Bluto now that they have it with the Bluto, and for $300 less.. Looks like the major difference is only the brakes.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsth View Post
    Thoughts?
    The big difference is 170 vs 190 rear hub spacing. If 4" tires are the widest you want, go Boris. If you want 4.8", go Night Train/Sturgis.

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    Put in my order for a jet black night train. Excited for these bad boys. Those SRAM guides are great. Felt them on an enduro this past weekend and I'm glad they are coming on the fat bike!

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    I just ordered a Night Train Bullet Yesterday. They weren't available in the 21M for some time and somehow for a very short time they were yesterday. We'll see if one shows up...they did send me a tracking number
    Looking at Big-O fenders since I plan to ride mine in the riverbed allot. Looking for feedback on that if anyone has experience with them.

    Been riding roadies since 83, this will be my first offroad adult bike....pretty stoked about it.

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    I paid using PayPal and I did not get a tracking #. Does this mean they are already shipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    I paid using PayPal and I did not get a tracking #. Does this mean they are already shipping?
    I would follow up with BD. When I ordered mine, I got a tracking number right away. Hasn't shown any activity/movement since then but I think that has been their process.

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    I ordered Sunday night. Their site says an email within 24 hours yet nothing in spam folder or regular folder. I'll reach out to them

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    I got an email today about Bikesdirect and was all excited thinking maybe the bikes had gotten to them early. Nope, just a request for a review of my purchase from Bizrate... I am counting down the days! The pile of parts in packages still has gotten quite large, although most of them are for my Bucksaw build that I still have to wait another two months for. :-(

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    I bought this thinking it would be better than a cold conductive aluminum handlebar.Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-handlebar.jpg

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    November 10th Ship date! Can't wait

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    I have a carbon set of bars and I will be very tempted to put them on the Sturgis once it gets here but then I will have to buy another one for the Bucksaw... I guess it is only money - I have not bought a set of bars for the Sturgis yet, but I keep looking and bidding on E-Bay. The ones I have are Bontrager XXX, I have the same seatpost and it is 31.6 so will not fit the Sturgis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    November 10th Ship date! Can't wait
    Still up to 2 1/2 weeks until they receive in their warehouse. Then 2-5 days for them to unload, inspect and process. Then another 2-5 days for the first ones to get across the country. This is if there is no delay in their shipping/logistics channels enroute from Asia. So up to another month.

    I'm under promising and over-delivering on myself by telling myself November 21st, so if I get any notice earlier than that, it'll be like an early Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    Still up to 2 1/2 weeks until they receive in their warehouse. Then 2-5 days for them to unload, inspect and process. Then another 2-5 days for the first ones to get across the country. This is if there is no delay in their shipping/logistics channels enroute from Asia. So up to another month.

    I pre-ordered in August. I'm under promising and over-delivering on myself by telling myself November 21st, so if I get any notice earlier than that, it'll be like an early Christmas.
    I pre-ordered in August as well. My Framed Alaskan Carbon frame is supposed to ship late Nov./first week of Dec. I might as well just wait and switch over the parts without even taking the Night Train frame for a spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    I pre-ordered in August as well. My Framed Alaskan Carbon frame is supposed to ship late Nov./first week of Dec. I might as well just wait and switch over the parts without even taking the Night Train frame for a spin.
    I would not have the discipline for that! I will probably have mine unboxed and built within a few hours of UPS dropping it off. :-)

    No matter what time it is I am going for a ride - I have a 1200 lumen headlamp and a 2000 lumen handlebar lamp. :-)

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    The last correspondence from BD on Oct. 7 says they expect to get the NT and Sturgis bikes in the warehouse between October 27 to November 10. Has that been refined? I was hoping to have a bike in my hands by Veterans day Nov. 11 because I have that day off :-(

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    Still up to 2 1/2 weeks until they receive in their warehouse. Then 2-5 days for them to unload, inspect and process. Then another 2-5 days for the first ones to get across the country. This is if there is no delay in their shipping/logistics channels enroute from Asia. So up to another month.

    I'm under promising and over-delivering on myself by telling myself November 21st, so if I get any notice earlier than that, it'll be like an early Christmas.
    Whoa that's a lot of added days. Luckily I'll have my trail bike to keep me busy till then!

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    I am wondering which Old Man Mountain rack fits the Night Train. I cant figure out if it is the one for the Pugsley or the Moonlander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    Still up to 2 1/2 weeks until they receive in their warehouse. Then 2-5 days for them to unload, inspect and process. Then another 2-5 days for the first ones to get across the country. This is if there is no delay in their shipping/logistics channels enroute from Asia. So up to another month.

    I'm under promising and over-delivering on myself by telling myself November 21st, so if I get any notice earlier than that, it'll be like an early Christmas.
    Last word from BD on Oct 7:

    "Great News; the Sturgis and Night Train models are on the way. Better News; we feel there are no higher quality aluminum Fat Bikes produced."

    "Based on latest shipping confirmation these bikes could arrive at our Dallas warehouse anywhere from October 27th to November 10th. We wish that links in the distribution chain was as predictable as links in a bike chain. Of course, ocean vessels, trains, longshoremen, US Customs, and local truckers all have their own ideas on timely execution of their duties"

    Lets hope the earlier date proves to be the case...fingers crossed

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    Anyone with prior pre-orders like this know if they will be telling us when the shipment arrives? I currently don't have any torque wrenches. Any recommendation on which ones to get? I assume I need one for big and one for little. I was thinking of getting a park tool one for small torque measurements and a lower priced highly rated one from amazon for the heavier stuff. I gave away my automotive one with the needle before I moved a few years ago. Also I can't find the post where someone knew what kind of socket is needed to get the SAMOX crank off (assuming it's possible) so I can grease it up and inspect the bearings before riding? I did already pick up a Torx 25 bit.

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    A cheap Harbor Freight 1/4" torque wrench is all you need - along with a set of metric allen sockets. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETChipotle View Post
    Anyone with prior pre-orders like this know if they will be telling us when the shipment arrives? I currently don't have any torque wrenches. Any recommendation on which ones to get? I assume I need one for big and one for little. I was thinking of getting a park tool one for small torque measurements and a lower priced highly rated one from amazon for the heavier stuff. I gave away my automotive one with the needle before I moved a few years ago. Also I can't find the post where someone knew what kind of socket is needed to get the SAMOX crank off (assuming it's possible) so I can grease it up and inspect the bearings before riding? I did already pick up a Torx 25 bit.
    You will not "need" a torque wrench to assemble the bike out of the box, though it is highly highly recommended. Since there is no carbon parts, the risk of over-torquing is greatly diminshed. Anything generally more than finger tight + 1/2 turn on an allen key is probably going to be over-torqued/stripped.

    To build the bike out of the box, you will likely need:

    - 3mm, 4mm, 5mm and 6mm allen key. (tighten headset preload, tighten stem, bar, seat on seatpost), adjust angle of bar/saddle and control components.
    - Something to mount pedals, depending on your pedals. Either an 8mm Allen Key or a 9/16 pedal wrench or a correct sized open ended wrench if your pedal has enough clearance for a regular wrench
    - Pump to pump up your tires. Capable of using a presta valve, or a presta to schraeder converter if you only have a schraeder valved pump
    - Lithium or waterproof grease to grease the seattube/seat post before insertion to avoid future seizing of seat post in seat tube
    - T25 torx wrench to install front rotor onto front rim (or they could include allen head bolts...but the general industry standard is the T25 for rotor mounting bolts)

    To take the SAMOX crank off, you likely won't need a socket at all. All you should need is a 5mm allen key to undo the two bolts on the non-drive-side crank arm. Likely a plastic bearing pre-load nut is in the end of the axle that you'll need to remove. There is a special tool for that, but you could get it out without the special tool. And possibly a rubber mallet to punch the crank axle through the other side. The crank will come right out.

    If you want to get the bottom bracket completely out of the frame, you will need an external bottom bracket tool made by any number of bike tool manufacturers. There is no substitute, so you will need to get this tool to remove the bottom bracket. Anything made for Shimano HollowtechII, Sram GXP, RaceFace X-Type, etc. will be compatible. Do not get the tool for BSA30 bottom bracket cups that are used for Rotor, Enduro, ZIPP or RaceFace Cinch bottom brackets. Depending on which brand of tool you buy, the tool could also include the pre-load nut tool (mentioned above).

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    There is no substitute...
    Except for a pair of wide-mouth Vice-Grips! :-)

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    The bike does not come with a shock pump for the Bluto...as you will most likely need to adjust pressure for your weight. BD tried to sell me one off their site, but it's $35, and I can get a RS one cheaper. Yep, the bottom bracket should be pulled and greased, as BD is notorious for shipping out too dry shells. Hoping the Guides are pre-bled and working properly, but have also heard these brakes may need attention initially. May also change out the tubes for lighter ones that can be filled with sealant, as I know the stock ones weigh a ton. Check all bolts and mech cable tension...should do it!
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    When it gets colder out, am I going to have problems keeping the chain from getting clogged with ice? Should I expect any chain/derailleur problems when temps are down between 10 and -10 Fahrenheit? I can probably avoid riding in temps below that without skipping a month of riding. I saw a 10 year old thread about someone who had good luck spraying the chain with LPS 3 (which is something I keep around)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Turtle View Post
    I am wondering which Old Man Mountain rack fits the Night Train. I cant figure out if it is the one for the Pugsley or the Moonlander.
    As the Pugsley and Moonlander both have 135mm rear spacing I am not sure either rack will work on the Sturgis/Night Train. The Moonlander may be able to be stretched to fit as it is made to go around the same 4.7" tires on the BD bikes. :-)

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    In 20+ years of riding in the snow and occasional running water crossings I can comfortably say that I have never had one time when ice has accumulated on the chain. I din't really ride if it is much below 20 Degrees F so that could be part of it.

    Meanwhile, we currently have snow in the forecast for the weekend so BD had better hurry up and ship these suckers out!

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    Never has snow/ice build up on the chain but have had the front derailler ice solid where it was unable to shift. This was urban riding in Chicago in snow/muck. Not a big deal - I just didn't shift up front (I tried to free it by breaking the ice chunks off but cable had frozen). Worked fine once the bike thawed out.

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    we don't freeze/thaw much here. so maybe if it comsfortably below freezing, nothing can melt enough to freeze up the drivetrain.

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    I have a nighttrain bullet on order.. and I was contemplating swapping parts over to a chinese carbon fatty frame so i posed the question of what frame I should look at that would best fit the parts off the nighttrain etc.. some people were saying that the listed spacing off the bikesdirect website of 190x12mm is incorrect and that its actually 197x12mm.. can anyone confirm what the spacing actually is etc..?

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    I apologize if this has been covered already, I've been through most of the pages.

    The sturgis bullet lists - VEE RUBBER26X4.5 Snow Shoe SBK 72TPI Foldable
    The night train lists -
    VEE RUBBER26X4.5 VRB370 Snow Shoe SBK 120TPI Silica Comp. Foldable Light weight
    Problem is I can't seem to find this 72tpi tire anywhere. I'm wondering what the weight and quality difference is between the two tires is.

    I'm not really a fan of sram brakes so that and an x9 rear deraileur are the only difference between the two bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manchvegas View Post
    I have a nighttrain bullet on order.. and I was contemplating swapping parts over to a chinese carbon fatty frame so i posed the question of what frame I should look at that would best fit the parts off the nighttrain etc.. some people were saying that the listed spacing off the bikesdirect website of 190x12mm is incorrect and that its actually 197x12mm.. can anyone confirm what the spacing actually is etc..?
    From email from BD. I asked specifically because I was having a wheelset built for my NT Bullet. Emphasis from BD.

    Hi Tom,
    R/HUB(FH)
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    D202SB-X12MM ALLOY REAR DISC HUB 32H.OLD:12x197MM , 4 CHINESE BEARINGS,2RS , FOR SNOW BIKE , W/O THROUGH PARTS , POLISH ANOD. BLACK W/NOVATEC LOGO
    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailwerks View Post
    I apologize if this has been covered already, I've been through most of the pages.

    The sturgis bullet lists - VEE RUBBER26X4.5 Snow Shoe SBK 72TPI Foldable
    The night train lists -
    VEE RUBBER26X4.5 VRB370 Snow Shoe SBK 120TPI Silica Comp. Foldable Light weight
    Problem is I can't seem to find this 72tpi tire anywhere. I'm wondering what the weight and quality difference is between the two tires is.

    I'm not really a fan of sram brakes so that and an x9 rear deraileur are the only difference between the two bikes.

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    I thought the vee website shows about 100g difference between 120tpi and 72tpi. 120tpi will be lighter, should be more supple (theoretically) but also more prone to punctures.

    The Sram guide brakes are apparently very good. Xt level. Not the avid juicy or elixir crap.

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    That is interesting that the reply from BD is clearly cut and paste...but from where? When you look at the bike specs for all of the Nighttrain bikes and the Sturgis bikes (same frame) and both the frame and hub descriptions say "12x190" as well as Motobecane's own website...which, as I mentioned earlier, also lists the headtube angle at 70.5 and not the 70 that BD lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvbullit View Post
    That is interesting that the reply from BD is clearly cut and paste...but from where? When you look at the bike specs for all of the Nighttrain bikes and the Sturgis bikes (same frame) and both the frame and hub descriptions say "12x190" as well as Motobecane's own website...which, as I mentioned earlier, also lists the headtube angle at 70.5 and not the 70 that BD lists.
    I went back through my emails from BD and that is lifted from the spec sheet they sent to the factory for the build. When I was working with the guy who built my wheelset (Mikesee here on mtbr) he mentioned that the hubs would either have to be 190QR or 197TA. A 190TA hub would be a new "standard" versus the current available offerings of fat bike hubs.

    I think this confusion falls into the same category as BD initially posting a much longer ETT measurement on their website for their 15" NT then changing it to the correct shorter measurement without emailing any customers or noting that the measurement changed.

    None of us will really know until the bikes are in our hands and can take real world measurements.

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    Here is the cut and paste from the email I got from BD with the build spec info. before I asked for more clarification on the hub spacing. Emphasis mine.



    Hi Tom,

    Please see the following I pulled from the factory build sheet.

    DROPOUTS(DO)
    Q65-GP56-10 ALLOY VERTICAL W/POST DISK MOUNT,W/REPLACEABLE HANGER . O.L.N:197MM( W/O 3.5mm WASHER X 2 PCS ) , W/ALLOY 7075 QR 12x229xM12xP1.75 ) # 09-QR-00001-1 ) , BLACK ANOD.


    R/HUB(FH)
    T NOVATEC
    D202SB-X12MM ALLOY REAR DISC HUB 32H.OLD:12x197MM , 4 CHINESE BEARINGS,2RS , FOR SNOW BIKE , W/O THROUGH PARTS , POLISH ANOD. BLACK W/NOVATEC LOGO

    R.HUB THRU QR C
    KINESIS ALLOY 7075 QR 12x229xM12xP1.75 ( # 09-QR-00001-1 ), BLACK ANOD. , ATTACHED ON FM


    Thanks,
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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    Here is the cut and paste from the email I got from BD with the build spec info. before I asked for more clarification on the hub spacing. Emphasis mine.



    Hi Tom,

    Please see the following I pulled from the factory build sheet.

    DROPOUTS(DO)
    Q65-GP56-10 ALLOY VERTICAL W/POST DISK MOUNT,W/REPLACEABLE HANGER . O.L.N:197MM( W/O 3.5mm WASHER X 2 PCS ) , W/ALLOY 7075 QR 12x229xM12xP1.75 ) # 09-QR-00001-1 ) , BLACK ANOD.


    R/HUB(FH)
    T NOVATEC
    D202SB-X12MM ALLOY REAR DISC HUB 32H.OLD:12x197MM , 4 CHINESE BEARINGS,2RS , FOR SNOW BIKE , W/O THROUGH PARTS , POLISH ANOD. BLACK W/NOVATEC LOGO

    R.HUB THRU QR C
    KINESIS ALLOY 7075 QR 12x229xM12xP1.75 ( # 09-QR-00001-1 ), BLACK ANOD. , ATTACHED ON FM


    Thanks,
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    Someone should email them back and ask them why their website says something different. Also, if they confirm the discrepancy, they should be told to change it immediately on their website. They seem to add bikes and pictures on their website pretty regularly. I can't imagine it would take more than 10 minutes of their time to change the rear axle and hub info.

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    I thought 190 was the rear spacing, 197 just means it has a thru axle, just like a normal bike with 135 vs. 142 rear spacing. The hubs are still 135, just have the end caps for thru axle...

    I am getting very impatient. Selling one of my other bikes today so I will not have to figure out a place to put the new bike. :-)

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    Oh no selling a bike..I hope my girl doesn't get any eyes on this thread. She will say if others are capable of selling bikes, than so am I. But I am not. I just let buddies that are new to riding borrow mine so it looks like the herd is thinned...to her anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    I thought 190 was the rear spacing, 197 just means it has a thru axle, just like a normal bike with 135 vs. 142 rear spacing. The hubs are still 135, just have the end caps for thru axle...
    What I interpreted from what Mike C was telling me when getting my wheelset specs together was that the 190TA would be a "non-standard" (my words, not his...not that there is a rear spacing standard for fat bikes yet) setup. Most designs are either 190QR or 197TA.

    I am not sure why BD would put the 190 spacing all over their website and then have the 197 spacing on their spec sheets but in my dealings with them, there is a lot of "right hand not knowing what the left it doing" kinda things.

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    I wonder how the shipment is going. Tomorrow is the 30th. Anyone with ship dates of the 30th on here? Mine is Nov 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    I wonder how the shipment is going. Tomorrow is the 30th. Anyone with ship dates of the 30th on here? Mine is Nov 10
    My original ship date was Oct 18. Never received any updated ship date. Hoping to see some movement soon, but not holding my breath. Planning it won't ship until Nov...that way I'm not disappointed.

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    Mine is Nov 5. I posted on their Facebook page asking for an update, have not heard anything yet.
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    My shipping date is Nov 7th on my updated order (changed from L to XL size).

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    My ship date was October 17th and I ordered in July. This thread fails to deliver, just like BD.

    I keep checking, thinking maybe today is the day, to no avail. I emailed Novatec about the pricing/availability of the 12x197 and 15x150 hubs. I don't see them listed on the usa site yet. Hopefully not too much over their other offerings.

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    My ship window just passed according to my order confirmation email. "Sturgis || Prepay ships Oct20-28"

    I guess they missed the boat. Haha pun intended.

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    From their Sturgis page as of today: "Pre-Order Bikes will be in our warehouse to ship out to you by Oct 30 to Nov10th (approx. may be early or late by a couple days) May ship a few days earlier or later than expected date range."

    So between that and earlier emails indicating a (very slightly) earlier date in warehouse, I'm hoping for movement in the next week and a half.

    Ship dates on original orders (for pre-orders) mean nothing.
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    I have a shipdate of the 30th as well.. checked the tracking # today an nothing... I brought up the hub spacing thing as I was looking at swapping parts from my nighttrain when.it shows up over to a chinese carbon frame.. but it seems as though I need to wait till all this hub spacing crap gets confirmed by someone with one in their possession. This craps confusing...

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    BD will likely post on the FB page when the bikes arrive in their warehouse, just like they did for the Lurch.

    However, what I don't like is that the website now shows Oct. 30-Nov. 10th, but the email we first got was Oct. 27-Nov. 10th. So clearly, the bikes are later than the two week delay. I just wish BD would communicate to their customers.

    I also posted on their FB page asking for a status update and no response yet.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

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    My shipping date is Nov 7th on my updated order (changed from L to XL size).
    How tall are you? What made you decide to switch to an xl? I'm torn between the sizes. I'm right at 6'3"



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    Quote Originally Posted by trailwerks View Post
    How tall are you? What made you decide to switch to an xl? I'm torn between the sizes. I'm right at 6'3"

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    I changed my order after riding a Salsa Muk in L and XL - they have very similar geometry to the Sturgis. The XL felt right. I currently ride a L Motobecane Fantom Pro 29er and I have a 20mm setback post and a longer stem than I would like to get the cockpit right. I also ordered a Bucksaw frame in XL and am going to swap the Bluto over to it (I did 5 miles on a L and XL Bucksaw as well and the XL felt right) so wanted the longest steer tube. Still crossing my fingers it will fit or I will have to spend another $540 on a second Bluto (vs. $100 for an ICT fork or similar).

    I am now 43 - in my younger days I liked a smaller frame that felt more nimble and I came from riding 20" back in the day. Now that I am older my back doesn't like a smaller frame. :-)

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    From BD Facebook page this morning

    Good Morning, Eager Fatty-Fans! We mean Fat Bikes, of course!

    We are watching the Sturgis and Night Train containers closer than any other we've had before. The ocean freight company just alerted us that they 'moved to rail'.

    Our directions to forwarder are to move to our Dallas warehouses as that is quicker than going to Houston warehouse on this route (and much quicker than going to our Jacksonville warehouses).

    Rail time can be as little as 2 days and as long as 7. We have local truckers altered that we want 'hot shot' pull and delivery. We will unload, sort, inspect and ship all the same day by bringing in extra help once these arrive.

    All four models: Sturgis, Night Train, Sturgis Bullet and Night Train Bullet have been in high demand.

    We expect the shipment of Sturgis Bullet framesets [due Jan 15] and Sturgis Bullet & Night Train Bullet complete bikes [due Jan 31] will all sell out quickly; especially after the first load is received by customers who will pass the word along.

    So, if you have even the slightest interest, we highly recommend you take a look at our hot new bikes before it's too late to snag one!

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    so by that, looks like a week or 2 out from my door! Woot!

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    Is the Night Train able to accommodate a rear rack? I don't see any mounting holes.



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    Woohoo. Hurry up and get those puppies on the road. The snow is starting to fly in Tahoe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shappy View Post
    Is the Night Train able to accommodate a rear rack? I don't see any mounting holes.



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    To follow up on my own post, does anyone know if this quick release adapter will work on the Night Train:



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    [QUOTE=shappy;11548510]To follow up on my own post, does anyone know if this quick release adapter will work on the Night Train:QUOTE]

    The NT is a thru-axle front and rear.

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    [QUOTE=OnThaCouch;11548523]
    Quote Originally Posted by shappy View Post
    To follow up on my own post, does anyone know if this quick release adapter will work on the Night Train:QUOTE]

    The NT is a thru-axle front and rear.
    Thanks, I just realized that. So are there any other options for mounting a rear rack at the dropouts?

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    That QR adapter will not work on the Sturgis or Night Train because they do not use a quick release skewer in the rear. It is a 12mm Thru axle.

    I would wait until we start seeing these frames as the pictures are of pre-production prototypes and the actual frames may have the rack mounts.

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    190mm hub, skewers won't be long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    That QR adapter will not work on the Sturgis or Night Train because they do not use a quick release skewer in the rear. It is a 12mm Thru axle.

    I would wait until we start seeing these frames as the pictures are of pre-production prototypes and the actual frames may have the rack mounts.
    BD customer service told me that the frames have no mounts, upper or lower.

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    It seems the Sturgis/Night Train frame is "performance..." dare I say "KOM" oriented. For rack mounts and more of a Mukluk/Moonlander experience it looks like the Lurch or possibly the Fantom would be the bike.

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    I plan to add a Specialized Command Post dropper seat post to my Sturgis Bullet. Does anyone know if the Sturgis frame supports an internally routed seatpost cable? I know that the Sturgis frame has internal cable routing, but I don't know if that applies to the seat post as well?

    I've found 2 command posts locally, but one (The IR model) requires internal cable routing.

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    The cassette for the Sturgis Bullet is described as "SRAM CS-PG-1030 11-36." Is that the one that has individual rings, and it bends up the hub causing play? Should I be thinking of upgrading the cassette, not because of weight, but to avoid bending up my hub? I suppose replacing that part of the hub isn't so expensive, but might be an unnecessary cost. Is this a non-issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETChipotle View Post
    The cassette for the Sturgis Bullet is described as "SRAM CS-PG-1030 11-36." Is that the one that has individual rings, and it bends up the hub causing play? Should I be thinking of upgrading the cassette, not because of weight, but to avoid bending up my hub? I suppose replacing that part of the hub isn't so expensive, but might be an unnecessary cost. Is this a non-issue?
    According to this post in the Lurch Lounge you are correct: freehub damage

    It looks like the cassette rings are not joined and the hub body is soft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartzpad View Post
    I plan to add a Specialized Command Post dropper seat post to my Sturgis Bullet. Does anyone know if the Sturgis frame supports an internally routed seatpost cable? I know that the Sturgis frame has internal cable routing, but I don't know if that applies to the seat post as well?

    I've found 2 command posts locally, but one (The IR model) requires internal cable routing.
    There is no specific internal routin for a dropper post. However, if you removed your front derailleur for a 1x setup, you may be able to make the fd cable routing work for your dropper post.

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    I have had aluminum freehub bodies forever and the cassette rings will only dig so deep and then they can't go any further. The little ridge of aluminum builds up and hits the "ceiling" of the cog and stops. The only pain in the ass is that the cassette is harder to remove but if the hub isn't piece of crap (I am more concerned that this guy already has crunchy hub bearings after 50 miles of riding) you won't need to take the cassette off very often anyway. Prep the cassette mating surface with anti-seize and it will make it easier to remove and add a little "material" with all of the graphite in the compound.

    You could also get real techy and avoid buying more stuff by getting two or three long 3mm bolts and drilling out the larger cogs, tapping the last one and tying them together like the old Shimano 7-speed cassettes used to be.

    Once I get the bike I will immediately pull the hub and measure the bearings and order some higher end cartridge bearings for when the stock ones die.

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    This may be superficial and off current topic, but, whatever. I like the purple on the nighttrain, but that color only comes on the non-bluto model. I really like the sturgis bullet in red, but prefer the better upgrades on the N/T bullet. I hope that BD sales folk read these threads cuz the N/T bullet needs the purple. That would be a fine looking fatty. Maybe you could order the rigid purple N/T and ask BD to install the Bluto for same price? My guess would be no, but maybe worth asking. I know the Lurch comes/came (haven't seen any on the website) in purple, but I prefer the alloy-framed, thru-axled (both ends) N/T and sturgis frames.
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    I keep ranting here because I want my bike to come and this is like meds...

    Just buy a sturgis..the only worthwhile upgrade on the NT is the 120 tpi tires. An X7 rear derailluer is actually a few grams lighter than an X9 and feels the same. The shifters are probably heavier so a wash there. You can get a set of new Avid DB3 brakes (I would rather have dual piston brakes instead of the quad piston pains in the ass that are the Guides) for $60 shipped on EBay with a little patience which you must have because it seems like we are waiting an eternity for these things!

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    Patiently waiting for my red Sturgis Bullet. Picked up a few upgrades for it:

    One-Up Components 42T conversion
    Specialized Command Post Blacklite, $175 local classifieds
    Specialized Henge Saddle, brand new, $20 local classifieds

    Plan to go tubeless, buy a large frame bag and ride the wheels off. I'm also thinking that I will likely want to reduce the Bluto from 120mm to 80mm or 100mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coot271 View Post
    This may be superficial and off current topic, but, whatever. I like the purple on the nighttrain, but that color only comes on the non-bluto model. I really like the sturgis bullet in red, but prefer the better upgrades on the N/T bullet. I hope that BD sales folk read these threads cuz the N/T bullet needs the purple. That would be a fine looking fatty. Maybe you could order the rigid purple N/T and ask BD to install the Bluto for same price? My guess would be no, but maybe worth asking. I know the Lurch comes/came (haven't seen any on the website) in purple, but I prefer the alloy-framed, thru-axled (both ends) N/T and sturgis frames.
    For awhile the NT bullet wasn't available and I was literally moments from purchasing the NT and an aftermarket Bluto and just before doing so I checked and several NT bullets had magically appeared. Back to the aftermarket Bluto...don't remember the website but it was listed for 525 but when I added it to my cart it had a price of 475. Granted that's 175 more but it still beats a sharp stick in the eye. btw I'd already requested them getting me a bluto at their bulk price but they wouldn't bite.

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    jensenusa has the e.13 fat bike TRS+ crankset for $149 (reg 330+)....picked one up today for the NT Bullet since the crankset and the seat seem to be where they went cheap. I'll post up how the swap went....hope to be riding it next weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurleyman View Post
    jensenusa has the e.13 fat bike TRS+ crankset for $149 (reg 330+)....picked one up today for the NT Bullet since the crankset and the seat seem to be where they went cheap. I'll post up how the swap went....hope to be riding it next weekend.
    Is that crank compatible with 190mm rear spacings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny31292 View Post
    Is that crank compatible with 190mm rear spacings?
    Yessir, according to Charles schnieder of the hive

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    OK...was checking my shipping tag tonight and UPS says my tag was voided by the shipper. Anyone else get this notification? I did change sizes but never received an updated shipping notice so I am wondering why the voided shipping tag now.

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    Just saw this on Facebook

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    Good Morning, Eager Fatty-Fans!

    We mean Fat Bikes, of course!

    We are watching the Sturgis and Night Train containers closer than any other we've had before. The ocean freight company just alerted us that they 'moved to rail'.

    Our directions to forwarder are to move to our Dallas warehouses as that is quicker than going to Houston warehouse on this route (and much quicker than going to our Jacksonville warehouses).

    Rail time can be as little as 2 days and as long as 7.
    We have local truckers altered that we want 'hot shot' pull and delivery.
    We will unload, sort, inspect and ship all the same day by bringing in extra help once these arrive.

    All four models: Sturgis, Night Train, Sturgis Bullet and Night Train Bullet have been in high demand.
    We expect the shipment of Sturgis Bullet framesets [due Jan 15] and Sturgis Bullet & Night Train Bullet complete bikes [due Jan 31] will all sell out quickly; especially after the first load is received by customers who will pass the word along.

    So, if you have even the slightest interest, we highly recommend you take a look at our hot new bikes before it's too late to snag one!
    Photo: Good Morning, Eager Fatty-Fans!

    We mean Fat Bikes, of course!

    We are watching the Sturgis and Night Train containers closer than any other we've had before. The ocean freight company just alerted us that they 'moved to rail'.

    Our directions to forwarder are to move to our Dallas warehouses as that is quicker than going to Houston warehouse on this route (and much quicker than going to our Jacksonville warehouses).

    Rail time can be as little as 2 days and as long as 7.
    We have local truckers altered that we want 'hot shot' pull and delivery.
    We will unload, sort, inspect and ship all the same day by bringing in extra help once these arrive.

    All four models: Sturgis, Night Train, Sturgis Bullet and Night Train Bullet have been in high demand.
    We expect the shipment of Sturgis Bullet framesets [due Jan 15] and Sturgis Bullet & Night Train Bullet complete bikes [due Jan 31] will all sell out quickly; especially after the first load is received by customers who will pass the word along.

    So, if you have even the slightest interest, we highly recommend you take a look at our hot new bikes before it's too late to snag one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    OK...was checking my shipping tag tonight and UPS says my tag was voided by the shipper. Anyone else get this notification? I did change sizes but never received an updated shipping notice so I am wondering why the voided shipping tag now.
    Nope, I just checked and my tracking number is still valid, still waiting for the bikes at the warehouse that it will go active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    OK...was checking my shipping tag tonight and UPS says my tag was voided by the shipper. Anyone else get this notification? I did change sizes but never received an updated shipping notice so I am wondering why the voided shipping tag now.
    Mine was voided on Friday as well. I didn't make any changes to my order.
    If anyone from BD is reading, an email would be nice!

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GT_guy View Post
    Mine was voided on Friday as well. I didn't make any changes to my order.
    If anyone from BD is reading, an email would be nice!
    Same here. Mine also voided.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    My tracking number is still valid . Not showing movement though.

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    Mystery solved...Just got off the phone with Megan from BD. Seems like that the shipping tag is automatically voided/de-activated if there is no activity for 60 days or more (did I really order THAT long ago). She assured me that once it is scanned for shipping that it will re-activate and track just fine.

    I did ask for an update on an actual shipping date and she had the same info (word for word) that went out in the update on Facebook a little while ago. Still guesstimating some time between Oct 27 and Nov 10.

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    7 more days till Nov 10. I hope to see lots of snow very soon

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    The e.13 TRS+ cranks that JensonUSA is selling for more than 1/2 off is the older 67.5mm chainline version, and is an older/discontinued model. The new models are 74.8mm chainline.

    So the cranks on sale at Jenson USA with the 67.5mm chainline "MAY" work with the Sturgis/Night Train frame...possibly in a 1x set-up (outer ring position), and with narrower tires (i.e. 4" or smaller...just a guess). But you may get odd chainline (i.e. abnormal wear, poor shifting performance, noise, etc.).

    However, it probably won't work as a 2x set-up at all, regardless of rear tire clearance. And probably not with tires more than 4" wide (just a pure guess on my part).





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    Is that crank compatible with 190mm rear spacings?

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    Race Face Ride Fat bike crankset is only $100 if you feel the need to swap the cranks - they also include an external bottom bracket. I found my Ride for $76 including shipping from BikeParts.com a month ago. They do not have any left though...

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    Two things. 1st, the Samox crank on the Fatboy seems to be having enough issues with the crank bolt that its concerning. How can we prevent this issue? 2nd, whats a good replacement crank that is compatible with the 190mm rear. I think a few people have posted incompatible 170mm cranks.

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    Just saw this on Facebook. It's hotting up!

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    The long awaited Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet are starting to land! Many pre-sold units will ship out today. Unfortunately, as these were in several assorted containers, not all unloaded today. Some containers were selected by U.S. customs to inspect.
    We have no control over customs, their timing, or work load. However, we have made it clear to our forwarder that the outstanding containers are a hot rush. As soon as we get release and delivery on the remaining Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet bikes the remaining bikes will ship at once.
    Hundreds of tracking numbers on pre-sold units will be live and show movement tomorrow.
    OTHER GOOD NEWS: the outstanding containers include some Fat Bike wheels that will go on sale for Black Friday promo - including some 29er wheels that will work in Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet.
    We will certainly post when the remainder unload.
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    Beat me to it!

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    Just got off the phone (literally) with BD. My Night Train will ship today!!

    Keep an eye out for movement on your tracking ticket, y'all.

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    Woot! Awesome man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    Woot! Awesome man!
    Heck ya!! I have a long weekend coming up .

    Hopefully it's delivered in time to introduce it to the local trails
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    Just got off the phone (literally) with BD. My Night Train will ship today!!

    Keep an eye out for movement on your tracking ticket, y'all.
    I just got off the phone with BD and was told to keep Ckecking for movement with your tracking number....she couldnt tell who would be getting their bike from the recieved containers and who would be waiting on the ones held by customs.

    This was the email I received:

    Hi, Thanks very much for your order with Bikesdirect.com. Long awaited Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet are starting to land! Many pre-sold units will ship out today. If you are receiving this email then something that you ordered will be shipping today. Unfortunately, as these were in several assorted containers, not all unloaded today. Some containers were selected by U.S. customs to inspect. We have no control over customs, their timing, or work load. However, we have made it clear to our forwarder that the outstanding containers are a hot rush. As soon as we get release and delivery on the remaining Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet bikes the remaining bikes will ship at once. Hundreds of tracking numbers on pre-sold units will be live and will show movement within the next 24 hours.

    Your bike will ship with the tracking number that was sent to you after you ordered. If you don't see that email, please check your spam folder. If you have any problems with this, please let us know. The best way is to reply to this email, or you can always call us at 904-249-2453. If you don't reach us between 9-5 EST just call back as we may be on the other line with a customer.

    OTHER GOOD NEWS: the outstanding containers include some Fat Bike wheels that will go on sale for Black Friday promo - including some 29er wheels that will work on Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet.

    We thank you for your business and most importantly your patience. We look forward to completing your order as soon as possible. Thanks for being a valued customer, you are saving hundreds with BikesDirect.com!

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    Update.....just checked my tracking number after my last post to yall and low and behold:

    Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
    Friday, 11/07/2014, By End of Day

    WAHOOOOO!!!!!!

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    I did not get that email

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    My tracking number just updated (I checked right after I saw I got the above email) - shows picked up and delivery by end of day Thursday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    How early did those that have tracking info order? I ordered back on Sept. 20.

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    I ordered August 15th.

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    I ordered August 22nd and no active UPS Tracking number yet.

    17.5" red Sturgis Bullet

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    ^^ me too!!!


    Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
    Friday, 11/07/2014, By End of Day

    Last Location:
    Mesquite, TX, United States, Tuesday, 11/04/2014


    "Picked Up"

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    August 26 here

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    I ordered NT bullet July 16. My tracking number says "shipment information voided".
    I must be the person who has waited longer than anyone else.

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    I am going to play a little Sherlock Holmes here because I am eager for my bike...I am willing to bet that certain colors/bikes/sizes were grouped together.

    I ordered a 17" Sturgis in KTM Orange.

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    Wonder if it makes sense to include what you ordered...

    NT - no Bullet
    Original order on 9/2, updated size on 10/7 (S->M)

    Delivery EOD Thurs 11/6

    I really can't believe how excited I am to ride this thing... I feel for all the folks left in the dark right now. Hopefully only a matter of a day or so...

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    I ordered the 17.5 Night-Train scheduled for Friday delivery here in Michigan

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

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    I ordered the 17.5 Night-Train scheduled for Friday delivery here in Michigan
    Bullet?

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    I really can't believe how excited I am to ride this thing... I feel for all the folks left in the dark right now. Hopefully only a matter of a day or so...[/QUOTE]

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