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    So if the standard can only fit 26 x 4 tires, it's smaller than a bluto? Who's gonna want that? Maybe the few people with Full Suspension who are convinced they never want options? I'm guessing either the website is wrong or they developed the fork 5 years ago when manufacturers were telling buyers that 4" rear ends is all they need...

    Since I have a Farley, there's no question what to get. Even if my primary tire is a 27.5 x 3.5, I want to be able to slap on 4.5's for the occasional trip to the sand dunes or early winter before I change back to rigid.

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    If the Surly Bud doesn't fit the std I'm guessing 29x3 won't either.
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    So I am assuming that the EXT version will slacken the bikes HA. How can I figure out how much the HA will slacken on a Farley 9.8 with 100mm bluto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    So I am assuming that the EXT version will slacken the bikes HA. How can I figure out how much the HA will slacken on a Farley 9.8 with 100mm bluto?
    The extended version has 20mm more axle to crown height the STD version. I generally assume that 20mm more a-c results in approximately 1º slacker angles.

    RS lists the 100mm Bluto with an A-C of 511 or the same as the 100mm Mastadon STD. But if you want to run bigger than a 27.5x3.8 Hodag on your Farley, you'll need the EXT fork with 531mm A-C.

    I've got a Farley 9.6 and would be happy with a slacker headtube. But I'm not crazy about the resulting slacker seat tube angle. I need to check how much room there is to slide my seat forward. That's an easy way to change the effective ST angle if it doesn't hurt your fit.

    This is taken from the Mastadon manual.
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    From Rockshox Bluto specs online
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    FWIW, I'm not a HUGE fan of Manitou's abbreviations. If you quit extending (EXT) it, maybe you'll end up with fewer STDs. I briefly forgot this wasn't the pink bike punfest....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPK3 View Post

    RS actually lists the 100mm Bluto with an A-C of 531
    Looks to me like it lists 100mm bluto as 511. Thus, the ext will raise it by 1 degree. The 120 bluto is listed as 531.

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    Negotiator50, I caught my mistake and fixed it. But not quick enough... Found your reply as soon as I finished.
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    I'm curious...so does the EXT version not compress all of the way(i.e.. leave 20mm of exposed upper tubes at full compression) as opposed to full compression on the non EXT version?

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    Okay guys, here's the deal with the tyre size and std vs extended.

    The max tyre size is dictated by the number of spacers you have under the bottom-out bumpers. More spacers means the crown stops higher up and you can run a bigger tyre safely.
    The max height of the fork depends on std vs ext and can be reduced by spacers under the top-out bumpers if it's too tall for your frame.
    The travel you get is the distance between top-out and bottom-out.

    So if you want to run tyres a bit bigger than standard, you can add spacers under the bottom-out bumpers (10mm increments). But this will reduce travel. Which may or may not be a problem for you.

    It's all shown in the pictures in the travel change manual (page 9). But there is the complication of different stanchion lengths: https://www.manitoumtb.com/wp-conten...ange-Guide.pdf

    Bottom-Out Std Version:
    5 spacers for 80-100mm.
    1 spacer for 120-140mm.
    1 spacer for 150mm.

    You can run 20mm bigger (diameter) tyres by fitting 1 extra 10mm spacer to the above numbers. Travel is reduced by 10mm.
    You can run 40mm bigger (diameter) tyres by fitting 2 extra 10mm spacers to the above numbers. Travel is reduced by 20mm. This gives you same clearance as EXT version, but 20mm less travel.

    Look at it this way. EXT is a 20mm taller fork. You can adjust the tyre clearance of STD to the same point, but you'll be 20mm short on travel.
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    Thanks Dougal! I think I got it...nice having your words and the manual to look at to piece it all together! I am going to order one as soon as I sell my Lauf Carbonara!

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    So I think I got it with how it relates to my current Farley 9.8 with 100mm Bluto. I can go with the EXT version for tire flexibility and still get the same AC and HA as I do now but I will have to set it up with 80mm of travel. Is that correct?

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    Competion and innovation are great for the fatty market. Good news!

    So, when do the prices start to drop on the Bluto's?

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    How does the downtube clearance compare to the Bluto? Will most large frames be OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    So I think I got it with how it relates to my current Farley 9.8 with 100mm Bluto. I can go with the EXT version for tire flexibility and still get the same AC and HA as I do now but I will have to set it up with 80mm of travel. Is that correct?
    Yah basically was think this as well, i believe yah will have to be set at 80mm or at 100 and have it a bit slacker.

    Stock is 490mm, its 531mm for 100mm, so 506mm with sag.

    501mm for 80mm with sag is 480mm

    Ones a bit high, ones a bit low....
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    Anyone find out the MSRP on this thing yet?

    Curious if it competes with Bluto in price. If so, it should sell really well.

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    $650 for the comp model and $850 for the Pro model. All info is now on Manitou website.

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    Thanks! Can anyone chime in on what to expect for real world differences between the comp and pro models? I read the differences on the website, and things like "expert air" and "dorado air" airsprings mean nothing to me since I'm not at all familiar with manitou's products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    Yah basically was think this as well, i believe yah will have to be set at 80mm or at 100 and have it a bit slacker.

    Stock is 490mm, its 531mm for 100mm, so 506mm with sag.

    501mm for 80mm with sag is 480mm

    Ones a bit high, ones a bit low....
    On the fence between Bluto 100mm and Mastodon EXT Comp 100mm.

    My Salsa Mukluk is spec'd to support a suspension fork up to 511mm AC, and I plan to use 26x4.6" and 29x3.0" tires on this bike--which takes the Mastodon STD out of the picture.

    If I use a Mastodon, it will have to be configured with 80mm travel, whereas with Bluto, I can use the full 100mm.

    If I'm using my bike mostly for XC (I'm just a roadie riding on dirt), is the Mastodon worth getting over a Bluto for better performance (?) but more weight and less travel?

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    "I'm just a roadie riding on dirt."

    This describes me precisely. I bought a fatbike a few months back (Framed Minnesota 3.0) to provide me more outdoor cycling opportunities during winter, fell in love with trail riding, and added a Bluto.

    The Bluto suits me quite well. I've not had issues others have described. But, I'm a neophyte who most likely wouldn't recognize bicycle suspension nuances, even if given warning.

    Though I'm an older fellow (early 60s), I've taken to heart the road cyclist's mantra that strength to weight ratio is king. So, weighing fully wet at less than 150 lbs, I'm probably not much of a challenge to mountain bike suspension. I also, as a newbie, appreciate the simplicity of the Bluto: set sag and rebound and go.

    In any event, I've been very happy with my Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireinMTB View Post
    Thanks! Can anyone chime in on what to expect for real world differences between the comp and pro models? I read the differences on the website, and things like "expert air" and "dorado air" airsprings mean nothing to me since I'm not at all familiar with manitou's products.
    Structurally Comp has 6061 stanchions instead of 7075 so they are thicker wall to get the same strength. Result is a bit more weight (200g)

    Comp uses the simpler ABS+ damper which is revalvable internally but doesn't have the same external HSC adjustment. The air spring is also different, but I don't know exactly what the differences is. It's being called "Expert Air" which is a new one to me.
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    I work at a bike shop, and this is NOT yet available through QBP, for us at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireinMTB View Post
    I work at a bike shop, and this is NOT yet available through QBP, for us at least.
    They're going through BTI but as of yesterday afternoon were still on the truck going from Wisconsin to wherever BTI is.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Thanks man. Found 'em on BTI. Gonna order one as soon as it's in stock. Thanks again.

    I'm thinking about the standard version, in 120mm on my beargrease. It might be a bit overkill, but I like the idea of being able to go 27.5x3 with the 120mm travel and keep a decent BB height.

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    Saw the Mastadon in the wild today... man o man... a REAL fatbike trail fork!

    If I had a spare minute I would have taken it out for a spin in the lot but the kids were in the car and we had a pressing engagement with a hiking trail/

    This was the 150MM version... only one of two in existence. Mounted to the new Foes Mutz 150.

    The thing looks burly and very much trail worthy.

    Me to my Bluto... "Bye, Felicia."

    That is, as soon as I can get my grubby little mitts on one.

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    Can i choose 120 and go down to 100? Prob not, right?

    I would like to try 120 and see how it goes but my bike's geo is set up to run 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    The VIP15 coupon codes makes this a sweet deal.
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    So what would the effect of an extra 20mm of axel to crown distance be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz View Post
    So what would the effect of an extra 20mm of axel to crown distance be?
    Minus one degree hta, 20mm increase bar height, minus one degree sta. If you are going from a 100mm fork to a 120mm, then double the effects.

    Good time to be slack, most fat bikes are waaay to steep to start, so slacking things out is the right way to go.

    Just ordered mine, Ext, 120mm, in purple! Bet you guys didn't see that coming

    According to my partner in crime, the eta is Friday and I got the last one from BTI in thst configuration.

    Like hotcakes, I'm tellin' ya'!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Can i choose 120 and go down to 100? Prob not, right?

    I would like to try 120 and see how it goes but my bike's geo is set up to run 100
    It'd be great if people read the travel change guide I keep linking up.

    You can space these down as much as you want. Either temporarily by just hooking on a pump or more securely with spacers inside.

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    OK cool. I have a bluto on my farley ex. Not really sure what my HTA is to start. I'd probably go from the 120 bluto to a 120 ext.
    Not sure If I am gonna do it but I really want purple haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Minus one degree hta, 20mm increase bar height, minus one degree sta. If you are going from a 100mm fork to a 120mm, then double the effects.

    Good time to be slack, most fat bikes are waaay to steep to start, so slacking things out is the right way to go.

    Just ordered mine, Ext, 120mm, in purple! Bet you guys didn't see that coming

    According to my partner in crime, the eta is Friday and I got the last one from BTI in thst configuration.

    Like hotcakes, I'm tellin' ya'!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    It'd be great if people read the travel change guide I keep linking up.

    You can space these down as much as you want. Either temporarily by just hooking on a pump or more securely with spacers inside.

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    Thanks for mentioning it again. I thought i read it here somewhere.

    Post #208 covers it just above!

    My 907 Whiteout feels perfect w the 69* HA w rigid fork but would not mind trying 68* w the 120mm fork. I thought i could at the very least run extra sag to get me to 100 like what i was thinking w the bluto. Encouraging though to have setup options w the Mastodon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz View Post
    OK cool. I have a bluto on my farley ex. Not really sure what my HTA is to start. I'd probably go from the 120 bluto to a 120 ext.
    Not sure If I am gonna do it but I really want purple haha.
    Purple is available! Or you doing custom? My whiteout is purple. Nice color

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    The Pro 120 Standard Height are already sold out!!!

    NOOOOO!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post

    The Fox can easily fit 3.5ish tires, but if you want to run a true 4" tire, on anything wider than a ~60mm rim, clearance gets very tight very fast. No room for mud.
    Lots of guys running the Fox 34 27.5+ with a 4.0 tire/70mm rim with no problems on Salsa Bucksaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teton29er View Post
    So if the standard can only fit 26 x 4 tires, it's smaller than a bluto? Who's gonna want that? Maybe the few people with Full Suspension who are convinced they never want options? I'm guessing either the website is wrong or they developed the fork 5 years ago when manufacturers were telling buyers that 4" rear ends is all they need...

    Since I have a Farley, there's no question what to get. Even if my primary tire is a 27.5 x 3.5, I want to be able to slap on 4.5's for the occasional trip to the sand dunes or early winter before I change back to rigid.
    I have the ability to run >4.0 tires on my hardtail fatty with bluto and honestly for 90% of winter riding it just isn't needed. Maybe it's needed for airing way down on the beach... but that's not something I do (despite living ~10 miles from the Atlantic ocean).

    Jumbo Jim 4.0s for year-round riding pleasure.

    Only reason to swap the tire would be to put studs on for very icy winter riding.

    FWIW, I don't think the 27.5/4.5 fits the Farley EX rear end (although I could be wrong on that).

    These ultra-wide tires are over-rated in my opinion. (and I have a set of studded Snowshoe XLs and a set of Minion FBF/FBR 4.8s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Purple is available! Or you doing custom? My whiteout is purple. Nice color
    I guess I haven't gotten that far into the search. I saw purple as an option an manitou's site and it appears nurse Ben ordered purple from somewhere

    also by purple I mean it's mostly black but has purple accents. If there is a full purple option out there that would be awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    There are spacers included in the forks so each fork can be spaced +/-20mm. The 120mm forks can do from 140-100mm just with spacers. The 100mm forks can do 120-80mm just with spacers.

    You can, of course, do more travel adjustment than that with spacers. But the positive/negative air volumes get quite different to design point.

    This is on top of the "connect pump and put it where you want it" convenience.

    Travel adjust guide here: https://www.manitoumtb.com/wp-conten...ange-Guide.pdf
    I really-really hope that's the case as I just pulled the trigger on a 100MM Pro Standard that I want to run at 110-120 on my Bucksaw!

    The price at Universal was awesome... $679 shipped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    The Pro 120 Standard Height are already sold out!!!

    NOOOOO!!!!!!

    Check eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Check eBay.
    Just bought the 100mm version and will space it to 120mm.. won't need more than that on the Bucksaw

    Assuming it really can be "Stretched" to 120mm... reading this stuff is giving me an ice-cream headache.

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    Are you guys sure that you can "stretch" the 100mm to 120? I only ask because I'm debating this now, and was under the assumption that the 120mm can be shrunk to 100mm, but not vice versa. Would make sense that it could go both ways though.

    My beargrease is 68.4HTA, i wonder if a 120mm fork would make it too slack @ 67.4? Anyone have any input on when is "too slack" for a hardtail fatty? I ride aggressively and live in the rocky mountains.

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    Frustrated!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FireinMTB View Post
    Are you guys sure that you can "stretch" the 100mm to 120? I only ask because I'm debating this now, and was under the assumption that the 120mm can be shrunk to 100mm, but not vice versa. Would make sense that it could go both ways though.

    My beargrease is 68.4HTA, i wonder if a 120mm fork would make it too slack @ 67.4? Anyone have any input on when is "too slack" for a hardtail fatty? I ride aggressively and live in the rocky mountains.
    UGH!

    I looked at the manual to change height and it does NOT appear that the 100mm can go UP to 120mm.

    https://www.manitoumtb.com/wp-conten...ange-Guide.pdf

    "Depending on the crown steerer assembly (CSA) your fork was built with you may have a few travel
    change options. The 100 can convert down to 80mm by removing two of the 10mm spacers on the
    rebound and compression rods. The 120mm can convert to 140mm. The 150 EXT is fixed at its travel.
    EXAMPLE: The Mastodon Pro STD is set at 120 with three travel spacers. Removing one 10mm
    spacer will set it at 130. Removing two 10mm will set the fork at 140mm as seen below. "

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

    I want 120mm travel!

    Dougal, you sound like you know your stuff... kind of trusted you here..

    But the manual seem to disagree with you....

    Can somebody PLEASE confirm?

    the 120mm is sold out at Universal... and I want that price on it.

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    Well...

    You can always return it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    UGH!

    I looked at the manual to change height and it does NOT appear that the 100mm can go UP to 120mm.

    https://www.manitoumtb.com/wp-conten...ange-Guide.pdf

    "Depending on the crown steerer assembly (CSA) your fork was built with you may have a few travel
    change options. The 100 can convert down to 80mm by removing two of the 10mm spacers on the
    rebound and compression rods. The 120mm can convert to 140mm. The 150 EXT is fixed at its travel.
    EXAMPLE: The Mastodon Pro STD is set at 120 with three travel spacers. Removing one 10mm
    spacer will set it at 130. Removing two 10mm will set the fork at 140mm as seen below. "

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

    I want 120mm travel!

    Dougal, you sound like you know your stuff... kind of trusted you here..

    But the manual seem to disagree with you....

    Can somebody PLEASE confirm?

    the 120mm is sold out at Universal... and I want that price on it.
    Yeah sorry 80 can do 100 but not 120. I got my wires crossed there.

    For me I only buy forks for sale in the higher travel options. You can always go shorter, you can't always go longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Yeah sorry 80 can do 100 but not 120. I got my wires crossed there.

    For me I only buy forks for sale in the higher travel options. You can always go shorter, you can't always go longer.
    It technically can be done per Manitou tech support:

    "So there are some limits on that. You would need to change out the rebound damper as well as the CSA to go from 100 to 120. Look at page 5 parts 1 and 9 for the ranges."

    Fortunately I won't have to jump through those hoops as I called Universal to cancel the order.... and it turns out they had one 120mm left.

    AND

    They had already picked and shipped my order.. and they had accidentally shipped the 120 version!

    The rare "oops" in your favor.

    SO PUMPED to get this thing up and running.

    Also... something I think you're going to hear a lot of in the near future...

    "Bluto For Sale"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    It technically can be done per Manitou tech support:

    "So there are some limits on that. You would need to change out the rebound damper as well as the CSA to go from 100 to 120. Look at page 5 parts 1 and 9 for the ranges."

    Fortunately I won't have to jump through those hoops as I called Universal to cancel the order.... and it turns out they had one 120mm left.

    AND

    They had already picked and shipped my order.. and they had accidentally shipped the 120 version!

    The rare "oops" in your favor.

    SO PUMPED to get this thing up and running.

    Also... something I think you're going to hear a lot of in the near future...

    "Bluto For Sale"
    Wow! That's sweet! Could not be any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Purple is available! Or you doing custom? My whiteout is purple. Nice color
    It was a joke son, though, I'd take it in purple if it was a choice

    My fork is slated for delivery tomorrow, fingers crossed.

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    I'm pretty sure I ordered from Universal before everyone else, yet my fork isn't supposed to ship until Tuesday..?

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    I didn't read the whole thread, but no one seems to be comparing this fork to the wren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcycleman View Post
    I didn't read the whole thread, but no one seems to be comparing this fork to the wren?

    Only because there's no comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Only because there's no comparison.
    cool, care to elaborate?

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    I'm in. Thanks Mikesee for the ebay suggestion

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcycleman View Post
    cool, care to elaborate?

    Review here.

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    I love coming home to a suprise

    and yeah, its burly, like a Pike, but more biggerer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Review here.
    Nice review mikesee- professionally done! Too bad the Wren is wanting in refinement. I've tried the FOMN and concur with the stanchion issue, currently have a Bluto on my wider fat bike, and await the frame onto which I will put a 27.5+ Fox 34 to make a narrower fat bike. Will be interesting to see how the others receive the Mastodon, initially and over time especially. The tendency seems to be that riders get all excited about the new stuff and only months later does the lasting impression start to show, lol.

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    Nice fork, really nice fork.

    Easy set up, 180mm rotor, direct mount, Guides, perfect alignment, hard cutting steerer tube 7000 series yeah, easy set up.

    Feels decent out of the box, EXT 120mm, I'm 200#, 90psi feels good. Very plush, rebound works, damping works, graduated lock really works.

    Previous fork was a newer Bluto set at 100mm. New fork is 20mm more travel and 20mm more A-C. I thought I'd notice the ride height difference, but all I notice is the super cushy front and a way improved hta, now at ~67.5deg.

    Clearance is tighter between the down tube and crown than with the Bluto, but I still have a good 10mm of clearance.

    Gonna ride early tomorrow, so exciting, years of waiting for a decent fat bike fork, it's really about time.

    Thanks Manitou!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Nice fork, really nice fork.

    Easy set up, 180mm rotor, direct mount, Guides, perfect alignment, hard cutting steerer tube 7000 series yeah, easy set up.

    Feels decent out of the box, EXT 120mm, I'm 200#, 90psi feels good. Very plush, rebound works, damping works, graduated lock really works.

    Previous fork was a newer Bluto set at 100mm. New fork is 20mm more travel and 20mm more A-C. I thought I'd notice the ride height difference, but all I notice is the super cushy front and a way improved hta, now at ~67.5deg.

    Clearance is tighter between the down tube and crown than with the Bluto, but I still have a good 10mm of clearance.

    Gonna ride early tomorrow, so exciting, years of waiting for a decent fat bike fork, it's really about time.

    Thanks Manitou!

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    Looks great. Pro or Comp and what size rubber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awai04 View Post
    The tendency seems to be that riders get all excited about the new stuff and only months later does the lasting impression start to show, lol.
    Yep Many here claim X is the greatest ever as soon as they get X, only to complain about issues and sell X a few months later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon Fat View Post
    Yep Many here claim X is the greatest ever as soon as they get X, only to complain about issues and sell X a few months later
    Yep, that's why I'm not gonna get involved in discussions, comparisons, or give detailed feedback on this fork.

    It's time the late adoptors took some responsibility for being lemmings

    Here is my review: nice fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Looks great. Pro or Comp and what size rubber?
    Pro, 120, Minion 3.8

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    you think it would be a mistake to run the 100 mm ext version with 531 crown to axel on my mukluk, while they recommend nothing over 511?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcycleman View Post
    you think it would be a mistake to run the 100 mm ext version with 531 crown to axel on my mukluk, while they recommend nothing over 511?
    Man people are getting hung up on this.

    Your bike will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Yep, that's why I'm not gonna get involved in discussions, comparisons, or give detailed feedback on this fork.
    Hilarious!
    Oh man I needed a good laugh, Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fugsworth View Post
    Hilarious!
    Oh man I needed a good laugh, Thanks.
    Like I said, nice fork, nothing else to add.

    Edit:

    Just got back from riding, 29+ goodness:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Like I said, nice fork, nothing else to add.

    Edit:

    Just got back from riding, 29+ goodness:

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    Talk to us. Ride impressions? Further comparisons to your previous fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Talk to us. Ride impressions? Further comparisons to your previous fork?
    Nice fork, I'm satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Like I said, nice fork, nothing else to add.

    Edit:

    Just got back from riding, 29+ goodness:

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    Looks like the DHF has plenty of room at the crown too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    Looks like the DHF has plenty of room at the crown too.
    Yup.

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    So how is the new mastodon fork?
    Nurseben: I"m just here so I won't get fined...

    How do it affect the a/c being taller?
    Nurseben: I"m just here so I won't get fined...

    How does this fork compare to the bluto or Wren?
    Nurseben: I"m just here so I won't get fined...

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    ^^^lmao
    I like turtles

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowery View Post
    So how is the new mastodon fork?
    Nurseben: I"m just here so I won't get fined...

    How do it affect the a/c being taller?
    Nurseben: I"m just here so I won't get fined...

    How does this fork compare to the bluto or Wren?
    Nurseben: I"m just here so I won't get fined...
    Fined? I didn't know there was a penalty...

    How about this: read Miksee's review, it's all there, fork comparison's, pros and cons, he even did a cross platform comparison with a Fox. I have nothing to add

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Fined? I didn't know there was a penalty...

    How about this: read Miksee's review, it's all there, fork comparison's, pros and cons, he even did a cross platform comparison with a Fox. I have nothing to add
    So, you're posting for self-satisfaction?

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    I have had one for about a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Fined? I didn't know there was a penalty...

    How about this: read Miksee's review, it's all there, fork comparison's, pros and cons, he even did a cross platform comparison with a Fox. I have nothing to add
    Lighten up Francis...

    It was a pop-culture reference to Marshawn Lynch's response to speaking to the media.
    Now you have made me explain the joke and it's not funny.

    The Lefty is better anyway. Also, don't like the color of your bike or your incomplete grammar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Fined? I didn't know there was a penalty...

    How about this: read Miksee's review, it's all there, fork comparison's, pros and cons, he even did a cross platform comparison with a Fox. I have nothing to add
    How about YOU write a review so we don't have to read something that's center aligned.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    How about YOU write a review so we don't have to read something that's center aligned.
    And just when I thought this thread couldn't get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowery View Post
    Lighten up Francis...

    It was a pop-culture reference to Marshawn Lynch's response to speaking to the media.
    Now you have made me explain the joke and it's not funny.

    The Lefty is better anyway. Also, don't like the color of your bike or your incomplete grammar.
    Incompetent grammar more like it, might have something to do with not having a computer at home... all posts are by phone; so primitive.

    I didn't get the reference, sorry, I don't watch TV or pay attention to sports. I'm sure it's funny or you wouldn't have posted it.

    I kinda agree on the color choice, but when I called Kona to tell them to change the color, I said it was nurse ben calling and they connected me with a Russian Astrologer in Uzbekistan... maybe they thought I voted for the orange guy?

    Lefty, are they any good? I am so gonna dump the Mastodon and get a Lefty, I just needed your encouragement.

    Thanks for all the tips, you da man!

    Hell no I ain't doin' no damn review, wut the bleep does it matter? It's always the same arsehats, sitting on their thumbs, posting comments from their cubicle. Let them buy a Mastodon and post a review.

    This fork is straight up Manitou tech, just like you get on their other high end forks, but with a wider crown and axle spacing.

    If SRAM made a fat Pike that could be run from 80-150mm, with this kind of adjustability, would you question it's function? Hell no, a Pike is a Pike.

    Just my 0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    How about YOU write a review so we don't have to read something that's center aligned.
    If you knew Mike, you wouldn't have that opinion. Mike is as straight and honest as they come, at times brutally so. If Mike puts his opinion out on a public forum, its straight up.

    If folks really must have their questions answered to save them from buyer's constipation, send me a PM and I will do my best to answer said questions with proper grammar

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    Quick question...why does the Mastodon have a tooled thru axle vs. a lever thru axle? Is there an advantage to it (theft??) Typically always have tools along but seems like the lever takes forgetting a tool out of the equation. Thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    Quick question...why does the Mastodon have a tooled thru axle vs. a lever thru axle? Is there an advantage to it (theft??) Typically always have tools along but seems like the lever takes forgetting a tool out of the equation. Thanks for the help
    I had the same question,guessing it's to save some space. The width of this fork is big and having the lever hanging out there is just asking to break it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    Quick question...why does the Mastodon have a tooled thru axle vs. a lever thru axle? Is there an advantage to it (theft??) Typically always have tools along but seems like the lever takes forgetting a tool out of the equation. Thanks for the help
    I'd expect stiffness/strength to be a factor. The tooled Hexlock SL axle can be a lot less hollow than the QR15.
    Easier to use with gloves too.

    I think QR is great if you're racing and losing places with each second during a tube change. But otherwise tooled has a lot of advantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    If you knew Mike, you wouldn't have that opinion. Mike is as straight and honest as they come, at times brutally so. If Mike puts his opinion out on a public forum, its straight up.

    If folks really must have their questions answered to save them from buyer's constipation, send me a PM and I will do my best to answer said questions with proper grammar
    It has nothing to do with Mike as a person. It's all about his formating. When you stray from normal academically accepted styles that have been used for centuries things become harder to read.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    It has nothing to do with Mike as a person. It's all about his formating. When you stray from normal academically accepted styles that have been used for centuries things become harder to read.
    Wow, anal much? Isn't there a forum for language composition Nazis where you'd be much happier than here amongst all of us bicycle cavemen? Seriously, get a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    It has nothing to do with Mike as a person. It's all about his formating. When you stray from normal academically accepted styles that have been used for centuries things become harder to read.
    Don't get your point. He says this:

    "The takeaway you should get is that the differences in these forks amount to a hill of beans once they are dialed in: Both feel great -- stiff, supple, capable, adjustable -- and I could happily ride either.

    The only other difference then, comes down to the ability to run a wider range of tires in Mastodon, and for me that was the deciding factor in selling the orange bike with the Fox fork.

    Some will want more detail than that -- and they should ask specific questions below!"

    Seems pretty straightforward to me.
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    I just come here to watch the train wrecks.
    I'll be back later....I'm off to ride my Mastodon.

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    Has anyone opened one of these up yet to adjust travel?

    My Pro Ext set at 100mm still has 1" of extra stanchion above at max travel. Per Mantitou's service manual, my fork should only be adjusted downward towards 80mm. But I'm trying to figure out why spacers couldn't be removed to give 120mm without increasing the ride height at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIke N Gear View Post
    Has anyone opened one of these up yet to adjust travel?

    My Pro Ext set at 100mm still has 1" of extra stanchion above at max travel. Per Mantitou's service manual, my fork should only be adjusted downward towards 80mm. But I'm trying to figure out why spacers couldn't be removed to give 120mm without increasing the ride height at all.
    I haven't taken it apart yet, but the longer stancions( there is 2 different part numbers but niether say std or ext) and longer air spring in the extended is the reason. That extra inch is to keep a tall tire from hitting the crown.
    I have the 120 and it has about 1 inch extra also

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    I haven't taken it apart yet, but the longer stancions( there is 2 different part numbers but niether say std or ext) and longer air spring in the extended is the reason. That extra inch is to keep a tall tire from hitting the crown.
    I have the 120 and it has about 1 inch extra also

    also, i think, to keep the reverse arch from pounding through your downtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    also, i think, to keep the reverse arch from pounding through your downtube.
    That was the first thing I checked when I mounted.....because many years ago.....

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    How do you guys fill this with air? I've never owned an air shock or fork before and my pump is only rated to 90psi..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    How do you guys fill this with air? I've never owned an air shock or fork before and my pump is only rated to 90psi..
    shock pump. You need one

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    shock pump. You need one
    Thanks

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    The Bluto *comes* with a shock pump if you buy it aftermarket.

    Manitou is robbing you guys.


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    I'm getting a nice ride on a 120 ext pro at 60psi. I weigh 200#. No complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkers View Post
    The Bluto *comes* with a shock pump if you buy it aftermarket.

    Manitou is robbing you guys.


    Bluto could come with a ham sandwich and a pallet of cupcakes and it still wouldn't be worth riding.

    YMMV, clearly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    I'm getting a nice ride on a 120 ext pro at 60psi. I weigh 200#. No complaints.
    I'm guessing ktmneilo is refering a tire pump....which doesn't work very well

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Bluto could come with a ham sandwich and a pallet of cupcakes and it still wouldn't be worth riding.

    YMMV, clearly...
    Wait... Would it be a voucher for a ham sandwich or an actual shrink wrapped ham sandwich? And are the cupcakes assorted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Bluto could come with a ham sandwich and a pallet of cupcakes and it still wouldn't be worth riding.

    YMMV, clearly...
    Rock Shox is really ripping us off by not supplying ham sammiches and cupcakes.
    And would it kill them to put on a pot of coffee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Rock Shox is really ripping us off by not supplying ham sammiches and cupcakes.
    And would it kill them to put on a pot of coffee?
    The thing is, the sandwich and coffee would probably be pretty nasty, ya know, from sitting in the box for so long.

    Give Keifer a break, he's just a kid, his funds are limited, so he's mad about having splurged on another fork and probably can't afford the upgrade.

    At least we got affordable health care...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    and don't forget about Mother's Day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    The thing is, the sandwich and coffee would probably be pretty nasty, ya know, from sitting in the box for so long.

    Give Keifer a break, he's just a kid, his funds are limited, so he's mad about having splurged on another fork and probably can't afford the upgrade.

    At least we got affordable health care...
    Who the Hell is keifer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Wait... Would it be a voucher for a ham sandwich or an actual shrink wrapped ham sandwich? And are the cupcakes assorted?

    Probably freeze dried, and I was wrong about the cupcakes -- they're actually donut holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Probably freeze dried, and I was wrong about the cupcakes -- they're actually donut holes.
    They were cupcakes....but there is a recall and they are being replaced with donut holes.
    SRAM is very good with recalls. Practice makes perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    also, i think, to keep the reverse arch from pounding through your downtube.
    Non-issue on my bike. Plenty of clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIke N Gear View Post
    Non-issue on my bike. Plenty of clearance.

    Wow -- you have a SlingShot fatbike?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Wow -- you have a SlingShot fatbike?!
    More like 2.5" of clearance when bottomed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scot_douglas View Post
    Who are you? Jonshonda?
    Just don't want the mom's left out, they are the reason we're here

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Who the Hell is keifer?
    He's the guy who thinks Manitou needs to buy us brunch.

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    Edit: Deleted. This is stupid and not worth my time.

    Stop using my name on a public forum Ben, no one knows who you're talking about. Don't patronize me. I'm a grown ass man that can afford to buy any fork that I want.

    You don't know me, so don't pretend that you do.
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    Shouldn't my fork come with a star nut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    Shouldn't my fork come with a star nut?
    Nope. But any shop will be able to dig one up for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    Shouldn't my fork come with a star nut?
    Star nut comes with headsets. Or you can buy one for $2 at any shop....and you can pick up a pump while you're there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkers View Post
    Edit: Deleted. This is stupid and not worth my time.

    Stop using my name on a public forum Ben, no one knows who you're talking about. Don't patronize me. I'm a grown ass man that can afford to buy any fork that I want.

    You don't know me, so don't pretend that you do.
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    You need a snickers.
    Manitou doesn't include that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    you're not you when you're hungry.
    You need a snickers.
    Manitou doesn't include that either.
    lmfao..
    I like turtles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkers View Post
    Edit: Deleted. This is stupid and not worth my time.

    Stop using my name on a public forum Ben, no one knows who you're talking about. Don't patronize me. I'm a grown ass man that can afford to buy any fork that I want.

    You don't know me, so don't pretend that you do.
    I have you blocked because your "grown up arse" is not acting so grown up.

    You get treated they way you act. In this case, you're acting closer to your shoe size than your age, which is why you're getting ridiculed.

    FYI, 22yo is a loooong ways from grown up. Listen more, post less, and when you post... post from experience.

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    Okay, I'm gonna post a little review, mostly cuz I'm bored with nothing worthwhile to do ... van is getting serviced.

    Bluto: Three different forks used on four fat bikes and a tandem fatty, 80, 100, 120. First edition through current edition, first one blew a damper, otherwise worked as advertised. For a "widened" Reba, the Bluto is functional, new damper works fine, flex and stiction are noticeable when pushed hard. It's a decent entry level fork, fine for lighter riders and recreational use.

    Wren: Three forks, 150, 150, 110, used on a Mutz and a tandem fatty. First fork blew a damper, I replaced it , then later the steerer tube came loose in the crown, replacement fork worked fine. The Wren is a good idea that suffers from poor tolerances, lackluster damper design, and in my opionion it needs improved axle/dropout design to prevent torsion and asymmetrical leg movement. The Wren is burly, and though it's a bit "loose", it takes a beating and until recently it was the only choice for hard charging, long travel, and Clydes.

    Mastodon: 120mm EXT, set at 120mm with factory set up, 60psi, mounted on a large Kona Wozo, wheels run to date 27.5 x 3.8 Minions and 29 x 3 Minions.

    The Mastodon is a high end fork, so comparing it to a Bluto or a Wren is really not rational; a fair comparison would be a Fox 34 or a Pike. The Mastodon makes my Wozo ride like my Hendrix/Pike plus bike, stability, damping, responsiveness are comparable. I like my Pike, but the Mastodon feels a little smoother, like Mikesee said, the Mastodon disappears under you so you don't think about.

    Im a huge gear fiddler, I tend to mess with fork set up during my first few rides. The Mastodon is the first fork I've ridden that I did not fiddle with until after multiple rides. Even now, all I've done is reduce pressure.

    I have not messed with the damper side, but I have had the air side apart, very simple clip system (like Wren) that is an easy to use, no mess system, and requires minimal time and effort to adjust (like Pike).

    My Wozo is designed to run an 80mm travel fork with a typical A-C, Bluto 100mm or similar, so I had some concerns about getting the Mastodon EXT 120mm fork with the added 20mm A-C on top of going up 20mm in travel. Put simply, it's not a problem.

    I like slack, but fat hardtails are typically 69-70deg hta, so going from ~69.5 hta to a 67.5 hta was a positive change, bringing the bike alive both by improving tracking at speed, also increasing rideability in tech and off jumps. Think More Playful.

    The Mastodon is stout, responsive, and well dampened.

    I like it

    Full disclosure: I have no ties to industry, I pay for all my gear, much to the disgust of my banker, the lovely and talented Mrs Nurse Ben.

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    All that typing....
    And not one mention of the pump that Manitou is stealing from us...
    Nor any suggestions as to what brunch should be provided.
    #fakenews

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    You get treated they way you act.
    I see people calling you out on your pompous ways in almost every thread you post in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Yep, that's why I'm not gonna get involved in discussions, comparisons, or give detailed feedback on this fork.


    Maybe next time you post your detailed feedback you should start a new thread so it can be all about you. Like we need 3 Wozo threads.

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    You win Ben. I give up. You are always right, everyone else but Mike C is always wrong. You are the best at everything and know more than the engineers that design every product ever.

    Congratulations.

    Keep me blocked and I'll keep you blocked and we'll all be a happy family again.

    Get over yourself, and take your own advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    All that typing.... And not one mention of the pump that Manitou is stealing from us... Nor any suggestions as to what brunch should be provided. #fakenews
    So what German:A forks coming also without pumps, but they have carbon stanchions and steerer. you also can choose one of 3 standards 135, 142 or retard roxpoks 150



    Nurse Ben: can you compare mastodon to latest carbon German:A Flame wide carbon version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkers View Post
    Keep me blocked and I'll keep you blocked and we'll all be a happy family again.

    .
    If you 2 jabronies have each other blocked.....how are you replying to each other?

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    Getting all a bit Trumpish in this thread

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    "The only way we can truly control the outcome of a ride is not going on it, which is a choice I'm unwilling to make." -K.B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Bingo.

    Fork looks to be the fat bike equivalent of the Mattoc - just as the Magnum is the 29+ version of the Mattoc.
    It is the Right of the People to Alter or to Abolish It.

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    I love trains, it's been a while since I rode one, this should be intetesting...

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    Maybe some pertinent info would help this thread. Not much set-up documentation came with the fork.

    Set-up guide link: https://www.manitoumtb.com/wp-conten...etup-Guide.pdf

    Carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    Maybe some pertinent info would help this thread. Not much set-up documentation came with the fork.

    Set-up guide link: https://www.manitoumtb.com/wp-conten...etup-Guide.pdf

    Carry on
    The air pressures on that chart are a little high in my book.
    I weight 165ish....with a 120 Pro ext...I'm running 50psi
    Nurse Ben said he's running 60 psi and weighs close to 200.
    YMMV

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    So that added pound over the bluto is easily compensated for by improved function?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz View Post
    So that added pound over the bluto is easily compensated for by improved function?
    Do you think you could notice a pound?

    It's a nice, smooth and stiff fork....that does what a fork is supposed to do.

    I didn't think the Bluto was awful....and once I gave it a little love ( right amount of oil and SlickHoney in it's nether regions)....it worked pretty good

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    I have no idea if i could notice a pound. haha some people make a big deal out of a few grams so a pound sounds like a big deal. I take it people aren't noticing the pound?

    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Do you think you could notice a pound?

    It's a nice, smooth and stiff fork....that does what a fork is supposed to do.

    I didn't think the Bluto was awful....and once I gave it a little love ( right amount of oil and SlickHoney in it's nether regions)....it worked pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz View Post
    I have no idea if i could notice a pound. haha some people make a big deal out of a few grams so a pound sounds like a big deal. I take it people aren't noticing the pound?
    A seat post is like 200g and a dropper is pushing 600 in most cases. No one complains about the pound there.
    Fatbike, XC bike, Gravel Bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz View Post
    I have no idea if i could notice a pound. haha some people make a big deal out of a few grams so a pound sounds like a big deal. I take it people aren't noticing the pound?
    You have a Farley EX, right?
    That's a 35 lb bike.
    I bet you like it.
    So, if it was 36 lbs.....would you hate it?
    Considering a person fluctuates a few pounds a day....

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    The air pressures on that chart are a little high in my book.
    I weight 165ish....with a 120 Pro ext...I'm running 50psi
    Nurse Ben said he's running 60 psi and weighs close to 200.
    YMMV
    Good info. I'm a little lighter than you so I used just under 50 psi and it was quite plush. Thanks, the chart would have had it in the 70s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkz View Post
    So that added pound over the bluto is easily compensated for by improved function?
    The improvement over my recently serviced Bluto is dramatic. Completely transforms the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    Good info. I'm a little lighter than you so I used just under 50 psi and it was quite plush. Thanks, the chart would have had it in the 70s.


    The improvement over my recently serviced Bluto is dramatic. Completely transforms the bike.
    I just started playing with the IVA.....lots to play with on this fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Do you know anything about this particular train wreck?

    This is an interesting one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montparnasse_derailment

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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    Do you know anything about this particular train wreck?
    That trainwreck came with a pump.....and brunch.
    Brunch is just breakfast....but it's served with a slice of cantelope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    A seat post is like 200g and a dropper is pushing 600 in most cases. No one complains about the pound there.
    Sweet, so these forks are like having 6 dropper posts.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Okay, I'm gonna post a little review, mostly cuz I'm bored with nothing worthwhile to do ... van is getting serviced.

    Wren: Three forks, 150, 150, 110, used on a Mutz and a tandem fatty. First fork blew a damper, I replaced it , then later the steerer tube came loose in the crown, replacement fork worked fine. The Wren is a good idea that suffers from poor tolerances, lackluster damper design, and in my opinion it needs improved axle/dropout design to prevent torsion and asymmetrical leg movement. The Wren is burly, and though it's a bit "loose", it takes a beating and until recently it was the only choice for hard charging, long travel, and Clydes.
    Your axle issues have been solved with a new bolt on rather than QR style. As you know the older problems were already corrected. The damper has also seen small changes that most people will never even realize.

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    True the ex is not light to start and I probably fluctuate in weight and amounts of gear carried by pounds. I guess I was thinking adding a pound onto the fork might be more noticeable if it effects steering input or popping the front wheel up for misc trail objects.

    I really have zero idea though so that's why I asked haha.

    The fox fork comes in closer to the bluto in weight from what I read and functions like the mammoth. So I guess mikesee didn't seem to find the weight an issue. Not sure if the weight I saw was accurate though.


    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    You have a Farley EX, right?
    That's a 35 lb bike.
    I bet you like it.
    So, if it was 36 lbs.....would you hate it?
    Considering a person fluctuates a few pounds a day....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Sweet, so these forks are like having 6 dropper posts.
    No....not really.
    Cuz we all knowz Mo' droppers....Mo' problems

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    Bluto-Mastodon side by side and my B-fat Bucksaw with 120mm fork.
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    Haha. Damn, Bluto looks like something you get at 7-11 compared to the Mastadon.
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    How do you like the +20mm on the Saw?

    notice any change in handling?

    Mine arrives tomorrow... psyched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    How do you like the +20mm on the Saw?

    notice any change in handling?
    This fork is massive. I replaced a 120mm Bluto on my B-Fat Bucksaw with a Mastodon. Since I didn't change the travel it didn't change the handling. Overall I can't imagine riding this bike with a 100mm fork. Riding this weekend for the most part I didn't notice the fork which is really good. It did what it should do, and it felt stiff. It was very similar to my Fox 34 as far as stiffness and overall feel. I can't really add much more that hasn't already been said. I am looking forward to getting more time on this.
    Manitou Mastodon?-79b213bd-2acf-463b-8dd8-e4d9a304aec2_zpsthrhbfqa.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_America1976 View Post
    This fork is massive. I replaced a 120mm Bluto on my B-Fat Bucksaw with a Mastodon. Since I didn't change the travel it didn't change the handling. Overall I can't imagine riding this bike with a 100mm fork. Riding this weekend for the most part I didn't notice the fork which is really good. It did what it should do, and it felt stiff. It was very similar to my Fox 34 as far as stiffness and overall feel. I can't really add much more that hasn't already been said. I am looking forward to getting more time on this.
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    Awesome, thanks!

    Mine comes tomorrow (should have been here last week Wednesday but UPS decided to give it a circular route from NM to NH)... can't wait to slap it on and see how it handles.

    Loving my XO1 carbon Saw... but know that the Mastodon is going to really unlock what it can do. Both 100mm travel up front and the Bluto are a disservice to that bike!

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    Some rambling after a couple hundred miles on the Mastodon Pro 120 EXT
    If it matters...I have it on a Borealis Echo and replacing a 100mm Bluto

    Weight...it's exactly 319 grams difference from my 100 Bluto RL ( 9 inch steerer, star nut, race and axle). That's less than 3/4 of a pound.

    I get 110mm of travel. I'm guessing the remaining 10 is in the bottom out bumper ( Maybe Dougal can confirm)

    With the fork compressed....the EXT still has 1 1/2 inches between a Vee Snowshoe XL and the crown. Maybe the STD would be fine for those worried about the extra A to C.
    For me...although it raised the front of the bike...I like it.

    Pressure charts are way off. I weigh 165ish and am running 50 psi ( and tweaking that )

    Playing with the IVA makes a big difference....

    I want to open it up and see what's inside for spacers,oil level etc....but I'm having too much fun riding.

    CONS....You need a allen wrench to remove the axle ( I have to remove the wheel to fit in my vehicle). But it works smooth.

    I know I'm going to lose the air cap on the bottom of the fork. I ordered one to have on hand when I do.

    It's a great fork....and I liked the Bluto....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_America1976 View Post
    This fork is massive. I replaced a 120mm Bluto on my B-Fat Bucksaw with a Mastodon. Since I didn't change the travel it didn't change the handling. Overall I can't imagine riding this bike with a 100mm fork. Riding this weekend for the most part I didn't notice the fork which is really good. It did what it should do, and it felt stiff. It was very similar to my Fox 34 as far as stiffness and overall feel. I can't really add much more that hasn't already been said. I am looking forward to getting more time on this.
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    I have to ask because I am new to this "fork" game but if we are not too worried about 3/4 of a pound does 3/4 of an inch (+/-), the difference between the 120mm and 100mm make a huge difference to the weekend warrior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    I have to ask because I am new to this "fork" game but if we are not too worried about 3/4 of a pound does 3/4 of an inch (+/-), the difference between the 120mm and 100mm make a huge difference to the weekend warrior?
    On the interwebz....3/4 of a pound and 3/4 of an inch are huge.
    In the real world.....not so much.
    But....if you buy the 100....that's the most you get.
    If you buy the 120...you can shorten or lengthen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    I have to ask because I am new to this "fork" game but if we are not too worried about 3/4 of a pound does 3/4 of an inch (+/-), the difference between the 120mm and 100mm make a huge difference to the weekend warrior?
    I think it's all about preference. 20mm will have minimal effect on how the bike rides. Mine has been 120 since I built it, and I am happy with it that way. Where I ride and how I ride I prefer to have 120 front travel. I use it all, and I rarely have a harsh bottom out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    On the interwebz....3/4 of a pound and 3/4 of an inch are huge.
    In the real world.....not so much.
    But....if you buy the 100....that's the most you get.
    If you buy the 120...you can shorten or lengthen it.
    Thanks for the replies guys, makes sense.

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    I want the 150 Pro but cant decide on the STD or EXT. I don't want the added height of the EXT. The biggest fat tire I run is the VanHelga. I do have a 29" minion 2.5 wheelset that I run.

    Will the STD handle a 29" 2.5 Minion
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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Some rambling after a couple hundred miles on the Mastodon Pro 120 EXT
    If it matters...I have it on a Borealis Echo and replacing a 100mm Bluto

    Weight...it's exactly 319 grams difference from my 100 Bluto RL ( 9 inch steerer, star nut, race and axle). That's less than 3/4 of a pound.

    I get 110mm of travel. I'm guessing the remaining 10 is in the bottom out bumper ( Maybe Dougal can confirm)

    With the fork compressed....the EXT still has 1 1/2 inches between a Vee Snowshoe XL and the crown. Maybe the STD would be fine for those worried about the extra A to C.
    For me...although it raised the front of the bike...I like it.

    Pressure charts are way off. I weigh 165ish and am running 50 psi ( and tweaking that )

    Playing with the IVA makes a big difference....

    I want to open it up and see what's inside for spacers,oil level etc....but I'm having too much fun riding.

    CONS....You need a allen wrench to remove the axle ( I have to remove the wheel to fit in my vehicle). But it works smooth.

    I know I'm going to lose the air cap on the bottom of the fork. I ordered one to have on hand when I do.

    It's a great fork....and I liked the Bluto....

    Wait a second.... Borealis Echo... high levels of sarcasm in replies... the faint smell of bengay and Manhattans... ha! It's THE mayor!

    We're gonna be fat bike fork twinsies.

    I'm sure this will make you vomit a little in your mouth.

    But then again, I never ride, so... small chance then of such public embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    the faint smell of bengay and Manhattans...
    You call it faint smell....I call it distinctive odor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I want the 150 Pro but cant decide on the STD or EXT. I don't want the added height of the EXT. The biggest fat tire I run is the VanHelga. I do have a 29" minion 2.5 wheelset that I run. With the STD handle a 29" 2.5 Minion
    Maybe someone with an STD can chime in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Maybe someone with an STD can chime in?
    I don't know if that was intentional or not but it just reads funny. Good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Maybe someone with an STD can chime in?
    Dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I want the 150 Pro but cant decide on the STD or EXT. I don't want the added height of the EXT. The biggest fat tire I run is the VanHelga. I do have a 29" minion 2.5 wheelset that I run.

    Will the STD handle a 29" 2.5 Minion
    The first thing that comes to mind is why is someone looking at a 150mm fork worried about an extra 20mm a-c.
    But to each his own.

    Like I said....My EXT has about 1 1/2 inches to the crown with a Vee ShoeXL...which is a big tire. So, in theory, that 2.5 Minion should fit.

    BUT....seeing the 150 has different damper rod and stanchions...it puts a twist on that theory.

    The only other area is the reverse arch...which on my bike has plenty of room. I had a funky 29er frame 10 years ago and put a DT reverse arch fork on it. It hit....and of course, it hit hard.

    I know Dan Mutz ....of Foes Mutz fame...has a few 150s at his shop in Alton, NH. Give Likin Bikin a call

    https://www.facebook.com/LikinBikin/...type=3&theater

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    The first thing that comes to mind is why is someone looking at a 150mm fork worried about an extra 20mm a-c.
    But to each his own.

    Like I said....My EXT has about 1 1/2 inches to the crown with a Vee ShoeXL...which is a big tire. So, in theory, that 2.5 Minion should fit.

    BUT....seeing the 150 has different damper rod and stanchions...it puts a twist on that theory.

    The only other area is the reverse arch...which on my bike has plenty of room. I had a funky 29er frame 10 years ago and put a DT reverse arch fork on it. It hit....and of course, it hit hard.

    I know Dan Mutz ....of Foes Mutz fame...has a few 150s at his shop in Alton, NH. Give Likin Bikin a call

    https://www.facebook.com/LikinBikin/...type=3&theater
    I like the way my Mutz climbs now with the 120 Bluto. If I go to the 150 Mastodon I want the STD version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I like the way my Mutz climbs now with the 120 Bluto. If I go to the 150 Mastodon I want the STD version.
    Ahhh...I got it.
    adding a 50mm taller fork will make it feel the same.
    A 70mm taller fork would just ruin everything.

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    How is the clearance on downtube with reverse arc? I have a fat boy carbon, which they didn't curve the downtube to clear crowns. I want one but concerned it won't clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenhead12 View Post
    How is the clearance on downtube with reverse arc? I have a fat boy carbon, which they didn't curve the downtube to clear crowns. I want one but concerned it won't clear.
    It should be fine. I have a couple inches on a Borealis.
    The only time I've seen issues with reverse arch is back when bikes had steep head angles and short/sharp head tube/down tube joints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I like the way my Mutz climbs now with the 120 Bluto. If I go to the 150 Mastodon I want the STD version.
    Get the 140mm STD and adjust it to taste. The Mutz really doesnt fit the tires sizes that demand an EXT, ie 29+, 4.5, etc...

    I'm kinda suprised you like the 120mm Bluto, thats shorter travel than the short travel shock setting.

    You'll like the Mastodon, it's a very nice fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Get the 140mm STD and adjust it to taste. The Mutz really doesnt fit the tires sizes that demand an EXT, ie 29+, 4.5, etc...

    I'm kinda suprised you like the 120mm Bluto, thats shorter travel than the short travel shock setting.

    You'll like the Mastodon, it's a very nice fork.
    I never said I liked the Bluto... I said, I like the way my Mutz climbs with the Bluto.

    The 150 STD will change it but the 150 EXT will really change it.

    I've had Dillinger 5s on the Mutz no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr View Post
    I never said I liked the Bluto... I said, I like the way my Mutz climbs with the Bluto.

    The 150 STD will change it but the 150 EXT will really change it.

    I've had Dillinger 5s on the Mutz no problem.
    So the Dillinger may be too tall, but if it fits the Bluto...

    Someone needs to pick up an STD, do some testing, and give the Mastodon virgins a little "heads up"

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    UC just replenished their stock (thanks for the VIP15 tip, somebody). I'm in on the 120mm Pro Ext. It's going on my short-CS hardtail with all of it's 4.8" wide-tired glory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenhead12 View Post
    How is the clearance on downtube with reverse arc? I have a fat boy carbon, which they didn't curve the downtube to clear crowns. I want one but concerned it won't clear.
    Fits my Medium Carbon Fatboy with room to spare.

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    So, the 120 Pro STD is mounted up to my Bucksaw carbon.

    I only had time last night for a quick spin to the neighborhood trailhead and quick sample of some dirt... and I need to get the settings dialed in.. but even in that short bit I could tell the difference in stiffness/tracking.

    Other things to note...

    - It's quite the tight fight to get the front wheel arm past the fork leg.. in fact, you have to force it a touch to get it over the hump. It scratched up the bottom of the white "Mastadon Pro" decal. NBD, I'm probably going to take all of the decals off except for the red M.

    - You can tell you got an early version of the fork when they send you the tuning guide for a magnum pro and the spacers for the mattoc. Lol

    - Wish they printed travel/sag on the stanchions... makes set up that much easier

    Weekend weather looking beautiful... gonna get some miles in on it for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    So, the 120 Pro STD is mounted up to my Bucksaw carbon.

    I only had time last night for a quick spin to the neighborhood trailhead and quick sample of some dirt... and I need to get the settings dialed in.. but even in that short bit I could tell the difference in stiffness/tracking.

    Other things to note...

    - It's quite the tight fight to get the front wheel arm past the fork leg.. in fact, you have to force it a touch to get it over the hump. It scratched up the bottom of the white "Mastadon Pro" decal. NBD, I'm probably going to take all of the decals off except for the red M.

    - You can tell you got an early version of the fork when they send you the tuning guide for a magnum pro and the spacers for the mattoc. Lol

    - Wish they printed travel/sag on the stanchions... makes set up that much easier

    Weekend weather looking beautiful... gonna get some miles in on it for sure!
    Okay, I give up: what's a front wheel arm and what is this hump you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Okay, I give up: what's a front wheel arm and what is this hump you speak of?
    Hahaha yep not very clear.

    The front wheel holder on my Thule X2 hitch rack. The fork is so wide its interfering with the arm when you try to raise it up to lock in the front wheel.

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    Anyone know why they did not include the HBO of the Mattoc? Noting came up in my searching. I really like that feature on my Mattoc but it would not stop me from buy the Mastodon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    So, the 120 Pro STD is mounted up to my Bucksaw carbon.

    Weekend weather looking beautiful... gonna get some miles in on it for sure!
    You are so proud to have a STD, aren't you.
    Hmmm...we should ride. I will bring some big tires to see what really fits the STD.
    What are you running for tires? And did you check to see what clearance you have between the crown with it depressed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty Bits View Post
    Hahaha yep not very clear.

    The front wheel holder on my Thule X2 hitch rack. The fork is so wide its interfering with the arm when you try to raise it up to lock in the front wheel.
    Shifty,
    Same rack, same issue. Instead of bringing the arm all the way to the top of the tire, at near 90 degrees, I bring the arm up to about 60 degrees, just shy of the bottom of the fork. No rubbing this way and I can't believe there is any way this is less stable for keeping the bike in place. I've had no issues and no more fork/arm rubbing.

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    one of my EXts gave me an STD once.

    DAD JOKES!

    Except I'm not a dad and I had to seek treatment.
    You change your own flats? Support your LBS and pay them to instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    one of my EXts gave me an STD once.

    DAD JOKES!

    Except I'm not a dad and I had to seek treatment.
    ONE of your EX Ts?
    How many T girls have you had?
    I'm not judging you....I'm just asking questions.

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    STD 140 pro ordered today from UC. Not at bad price with vip15.

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    No negative feedback on the Mastodon?

    Not suprised, Manitou did it right.

    It was worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    No negative feedback on the Mastodon?

    Not suprised, Manitou did it right.

    It was worth the wait.
    What is nice is that they are building upon a solid platform. Their dorado air and MC2 dampers are very, very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    What is nice is that they are building upon a solid platform. Their dorado air and MC2 dampers are very, very good.
    I never rode a Manitou before the Mastodon now I want to replace my Pike with a Mattoc

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    Finally got my first ride on the Mastodon. First I messed around on some some small jumps and choppy terrain to get it set up. Ended up with 105 PSI air, 6 clicks OUT on the rebound, MAX on low speed and 2 clicks out on the high speed. I weigh 260 lbs.
    At first I was kind of indifferent to how it rode, but then I took a super nasty rock filled downhill run with it and I was blown away at how well it soaked up nasty rock sections. I bombed one area that had soccer ball sized rocks buried in the trail for about 30 yards and the Mastodon smoothed it out like it was nothing.
    Then I did some high speed downhill sections and man this thing tracks great. I've never ridden a fork that doesn't dive or feel like its made of marshmallows in the corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    Finally got my first ride on the Mastodon. First I messed around on some some small jumps and choppy terrain to get it set up. Ended up with 105 PSI air, 6 clicks OUT on the rebound, MAX on low speed and 2 clicks out on the high speed. I weigh 260 lbs.
    At first I was kind of indifferent to how it rode, but then I took a super nasty rock filled downhill run with it and I was blown away at how well it soaked up nasty rock sections. I bombed one area that had soccer ball sized rocks buried in the trail for about 30 yards and the Mastodon smoothed it out like it was nothing.
    Then I did some high speed downhill sections and man this thing tracks great. I've never ridden a fork that doesn't dive or feel like its made of marshmallows in the corners.
    Are you coming from a bluto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    No negative feedback on the Mastodon?
    Negative feedback?
    I got some:

    Who's idea was it to put the air valve at the bottom of the fork?
    I have to get down on my knees to put air in the damn thing.

    And the air valve is right next to the disc rotor.
    I have to put my sticky mits next to the rotor.

    And it's tall.
    No big deal for me....but some won't like it.

    And it weighs 319 grams more than my Bluto.
    Adding 319 grams to a bicycle will make you .034 seconds slower.( or so I have read on this forum...so it has to be true)

    Proprietary axle.....
    So when you get dumb and leave your axle where you shouldn't....you're not going to find one very easily.

    And it costs money.
    Everything should be free. Occupy Manitou!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    I never rode a Manitou before the Mastodon now I want to replace my Pike with a Mattoc

    Actually, I find the Pike and the Mattoc to be very similar but the Mattoc is better in the air and on big hits. You won't use as much travel on a Mattoc for any given hit but the fork will feel bottomless. The Mattoc with the IRT mod is very, very nice. I find the Pike and Mattoc (and the old MRP Stage) to be superior to a Fox in almost every way. Pikes sell and are popular but it just boggles my mind why more people don't ride Mattoc or MRP forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    I never rode a Manitou before the Mastodon now I want to replace my Pike with a Mattoc
    Welcome to the world of good suspension! Now everything else will feel terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Are you coming from a bluto?
    My bike was full rigid. The other forks I speak of are either 10+ year old forks, RockShox Reba, or the Bluto on a demo bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Welcome to the world of good suspension! Now everything else will feel terrible.
    Yes, isn't that the way it is!

    I decided to give up the dream; I'm breaking down my 29+ wheels in favor of 27+, so my biggest wheel will be a 26 x 4.8.

    So, I would really love to have some feedback on "test fits" for the STD fork: Does a 26 x 4.8 Minion fit an STD?

    If so, how do I change my fork fron EXT to STD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    If so, how do I change my fork fron EXT to STD?
    So the P/N's different are the damper shaft and air shaft. Both different lengths.

    It may or may not be possible to make the EXT compress lower. It will depend on the clearance of rebound-compression dampers and the internal stanchion butting.

    You can shorten your fork short-term by simply hooking on the pump, holding it at the desired height and removing the pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    So the P/N's different are the damper shaft and air shaft. Both different lengths.

    It may or may not be possible to make the EXT compress lower. It will depend on the clearance of rebound-compression dampers and the internal stanchion butting.

    You can shorten your fork short-term by simply hooking on the pump, holding it at the desired height and removing the pump.
    I see there are different air springs for EXT...but the rebound dampers are the same for the 120-140?

    Dougal....you said earlier in this thread that you can add a spacer under the bottom out bumper ( even though the travel guide says not to)? If that's so...one could add 10mm under the bumper and take one out on top for more clearance and still have a 120 fork...and a lower ride height.


    One of the guys at Manitou told me the stanchions are different...but part #s don't show that. ( I had another of their guys tell me the castings were different at Sea Otter)

    On my 120 EXT...I have 1 1/2 " of clearance to the crown with Vee Snowshoe XL, which is a pretty tall tire.

    I think I'm going to get a STD 120 and find out what fits. I talked to them today and they do not have any air shafts in stock and won't for about a month.

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    That won't help. I want to know if my biggest tire will fit the STD. I suspect it will, I probably should have gotten the STD, but I was planning to run taller tires.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    So the P/N's different are the damper shaft and air shaft. Both different lengths.

    It may or may not be possible to make the EXT compress lower. It will depend on the clearance of rebound-compression dampers and the internal stanchion butting.

    You can shorten your fork short-term by simply hooking on the pump, holding it at the desired height and removing the pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    On my 120 EXT...I have 1 1/2 " of clearance to the crown with Vee Snowshoe XL, which is a pretty tall tire.
    I have a 120 EXT, and I have less than an inch clearance with Buds on 80mm rims, and even the summer tires - 4.8 Jumbo Jim snakeskins on 65mm rims - have a bit less than an inch. Both setup tubeless, and both sets have been on the wheels over a year (so tires probably stretched out a bit).

    Anyway it's probably a good idea to get some more feedback before assuming that fatter tires will fit on the STD version.

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    Loving this fork! By far the smoothest yet stiffest fork I've ridden, the colors matching the 9.8 are a plus too!
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    How hard is it to change the 120 to 140 by moving spacers? Is that all that you have to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    Loving this fork! By far the smoothest yet stiffest fork I've ridden, the colors matching the 9.8 are a plus too!
    This may be remedial but what fork to fit the Farley geometry? I have a 7 and likely will only run the 5" or less tires on the stock 26" rims.

    My wallet is aching......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    Loving this fork! By far the smoothest yet stiffest fork I've ridden, the colors matching the 9.8 are a plus too!
    I have the same bike and looking to get the fork. Did you end up going with the 100mm or 120mm version for the Farley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    Loving this fork! By far the smoothest yet stiffest fork I've ridden, the colors matching the 9.8 are a plus too!
    That is one mean looking bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    I have the same bike and looking to get the fork. Did you end up going with the 100mm or 120mm version for the Farley?
    I went with the 120, my thinking was with about 20mm of sag I would be at the same crown-axle height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    I went with the 120, my thinking was with about 20mm of sag I would be at the same crown-axle height.
    That's what I plan on doing. Have you noticed any difference? Is the front end feel high and does it affect your riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    I see there are different air springs for EXT...but the rebound dampers are the same for the 120-140?

    Dougal....you said earlier in this thread that you can add a spacer under the bottom out bumper ( even though the travel guide says not to)? If that's so...one could add 10mm under the bumper and take one out on top for more clearance and still have a 120 fork...and a lower ride height.


    One of the guys at Manitou told me the stanchions are different...but part #s don't show that. ( I had another of their guys tell me the castings were different at Sea Otter)

    On my 120 EXT...I have 1 1/2 " of clearance to the crown with Vee Snowshoe XL, which is a pretty tall tire.

    I think I'm going to get a STD 120 and find out what fits. I talked to them today and they do not have any air shafts in stock and won't for about a month.
    No problem at all with adding spacers under the B/O bumpers to increase clearance at full compression.

    2 spacers (20mm) means you're at the same clearance as the EXT. But you'll have 20mm less travel than before.

    Stanchions and lowers are the same. EXT has longer rods and a different spacer configuration. The P/N's seldom lie.
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    I know the forks is new, but anybody using a front fender on the Mastodon yet? I may try and put different holes for the reverse arch in my Beaver Guard I'm using on my Bluto unless there is another option? After a Rock did some serious damage to my Minute Pro, I won't ride without one.

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