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    Lightweight / Drilled rims for AZ Desert?

    Does anyone have any experience with lightweight or drilled rims for (Arizona) desert and singletrack riding. I never ride snow, and ride mainly rocky desert and singletrack...hard. I abuse my bike like I really hate it. I am using bomb proof Large Marges with no problems. I would rather not invest in a lighter wheelset, only to dent them up pretty bad.

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    If you're under 2 bills, drill 'em. If you're over, drill 'em anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanseeds View Post
    Does anyone have any experience with lightweight or drilled rims for (Arizona) desert and singletrack riding. I never ride snow, and ride mainly rocky desert and singletrack...hard. I abuse my bike like I really hate it. I am using bomb proof Large Marges with no problems. I would rather not invest in a lighter wheelset, only to dent them up pretty bad.

    Any advice?

    I totally realize I am using the wrong tool for the job here. Save it. My wife rarely uses a screwdriver for it's intended purpose, but I don't yell at her.
    Are your Marges scratched? Do they actually take hits? You most certainly do not want a wider rim, if you aren't riding soft surfaces - but there are strong, light trials rims that might suit you.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Drilled double wall is a neat idea. Someone should do that for an 80mm rim.

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    Great place to collect rocks.
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    @wadester...I am scratching the Marges up a little bit. They take some dings from plowing through the rocks, but no dents. You are correct that I don't want wider rims, but I do ride lots of sandy washes in the desert, so I don't want a narrow rim either. The Marges seem fine, just little heavy after a long day and several thousand feet of climbing. I dent up my XC wheels pretty bad, which makes me a little cautious. I'm not a rockcrusher, weight in a 168, just stubborn and the bikes take a beating.

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    Possibly consider a single wall non-drilled rim in similar width to the Marge. They should lighter and a little more durable. If you want to try the drilled route I have set of used drilled Speedway UMA II's 70mm rims in great shape that I could part with for a fair price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanseeds View Post
    Does anyone have any experience with lightweight or drilled rims for (Arizona) desert and singletrack riding. I never ride snow, and ride mainly rocky desert and singletrack...hard. I abuse my bike like I really hate it. I am using bomb proof Large Marges with no problems. I would rather not invest in a lighter wheelset, only to dent them up pretty bad.

    Any advice?

    I totally realize I am using the wrong tool for the job here. Save it. My wife rarely uses a screwdriver for it's intended purpose, but I don't yell at her.
    You've already got the best tool for the job. Nothing else will hold up as well to what you're doing than the LM's you've already got.

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    those echo sl rear rims really aren't that light. The Atomz trials rim is lighter but only 48mm wide.I would suggest waiting it out and get a Marge Lite when they come out and maybe some folding bead tires
    your 29er may float over roots and rocks, but my superlight 26 just plain floats

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    Why not just drill you Marge's?


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    Yah, I vote for drilling out your current rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    You've already got the best tool for the job. Nothing else will hold up as well to what you're doing than the LM's you've already got.
    thanks. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, and hit the gym. I guess when you stop worrying about the weight, it doesn't seem so heavy. Shut up and ride is what I'll do.

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    How many grams saved by drilling?

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    Hey Rhino, maybe your XC wheels wouldn't take so much abuse if you added some suspension. -JK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guipago View Post
    Hey Rhino, maybe your XC wheels wouldn't take so much abuse if you added some suspension. -JK
    True, but I look so silly riding suspension.

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    I saved around 250gms per rim,25mm holes on unbranded 80mm double walls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfbp View Post
    I saved around 250gms per rim,25mm holes on unbranded 80mm double walls.
    Does the amount sand, rocks, mud, and dirt that you collect inside the double wall negate any weight savings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanseeds View Post


    thanks. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, and hit the gym. I guess when you stop worrying about the weight, it doesn't seem so heavy. Shut up and ride is what I'll do.
    I just did my first ride on the fat bike with Large Marge DH rims, Nates, and the Surly inner tubes, on a wet root filled trail with STEEP ups and downs. The only time I thought about the weight was while loading the bike in the van.

    I would never drill a double wall rim for general trail use. Would just fill with muck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    You've already got the best tool for the job. Nothing else will hold up as well to what you're doing than the LM's you've already got.
    Agreed! I tried un-holey Darryls in western Colorado desert/arroyos and they were way more "fragile" than the LM's ( I do weigh 225#'s).

    Drilled Marges, I think, would fill with small rocks and drive me crazy with noise.

    If you have the Marge DH's, maybe try the Marge XC's...the inner wall is drilled out to save some wieght.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanseeds View Post
    Does the amount sand, rocks, mud, and dirt that you collect inside the double wall negate any weight savings?
    Tape over the holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanseeds View Post
    Does the amount sand, rocks, mud, and dirt that you collect inside the double wall negate any weight savings?

    I'd say that I'd collect only a few grams of debris,although if its wet,a fair bit of water,no where near the 250gms of removed ally though !

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanseeds View Post
    Does the amount sand, rocks, mud, and dirt that you collect inside the double wall negate any weight savings?
    that's why singlewall > doublewall
    your 29er may float over roots and rocks, but my superlight 26 just plain floats

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