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    Lets see some SS fatbikes!

    I'm motivated to do my first bike build this year ..a SS 29er or fatbike so I need ideas and motivation.I love the clean,simple look of a SS fatty! Build lists and problems encountered would be appreciated.

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    I ride single speeds and I ride a geared fat bike.

    I'd never consider riding a single speed fat bike on sand as there is so many different sand consistencies riding without gears will mean lots of pushing

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    Are people using magic gears on the surly and fatback? I've got a just built up mukluk with an alfine tensioner, but the less chain links you use the further the top jockey wheel gets from the cog and the less chain wrap. Seems OK for now, but not ideal. Was planning on a custom EBB sandman but we bought a house and I ran out of money!

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    The Pugs has horizontal dropouts ("track ends" not "sliders") that allow you to position the wheel for proper chain tension. I use a set of tug nuts to keep it in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSBonty View Post
    Are people using magic gears on the surly and fatback? ......
    Magic gear would work with a half link, fcebb or philcentric.


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    Doh two errors in one post! Forgot the pugs has ss dropouts, and didn't click Seans pic to spot that there was a very neat looking tensioner tucked away! How do you find that (DMR?) tensioner, and does it allow you to easily remove the wheel? (I had on old DMR that required lots of fiddling to get the rear wheel in and out, the alfine lets you drop the chain and pedal it back on.)

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    The DMR is perfect in every aspect except removing the rear wheel. If you have to do that, it becomes a pain in the ass. It's simple, quiet while pedalling forward, low profile, and doeen't look half bad. I had to take a file to mine to get it to fit the beefy Fatback der. hanger, but that was a minor setup issue. I'm not a fan of chain tensioners with springs in them. If I was going to run a tensioner that pivoted, had springs and stuck out as far as a der, I would just use gears. For me, the only advantage to a ss is the elimination of the rear derailluer.

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    I'm running the STS on my Sandman, too, and I concur with everything Sean says.
    I love my fatbike as a ss, by the way

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    I'm running a magic ratio on my 907. This is it set up for a race.



    Although I have ridden singlespeed for decades, like JohnClimber I have found that gears are necessary for riding in very loose surfaces. Basically because if I geared low enough to ride the soft stuff, the gearing would be too low to actually ride there. (Talking about mud, soft snow, peatbog, etc)
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    Velobike,can we have more info and pics of those fenders?they look amazing!
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    magic-free!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Hustler View Post
    Velobike,can we have more info and pics of those fenders?they look amazing!
    Take a look at Toni Lund's thread - there's some interesting ideas there too.

    One comment on magic ratio - it's only good as long as the chain remains in reasonable condition, otherwise slack develops.
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    Sean - sounds ideal apart from the wheel removal thing. I might have to play around with magic ratios, I've got a couple of SS bikes running like that at the moment, but didn't have any spare gears to try with on this one.

    Moe - is that some kind of eccentric rear axle? V cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSBonty View Post
    Moe - is that some kind of eccentric rear axle? V cool!
    Thanks. It's not eccentric per se, but it's effectively the same. Photo is of the (working) prototype. Aesthetically and functionally, it's fine. However, now that I have a proof-of-concept, I plan to make another axle out of a stronger/lighter material. Doesn't offer much range but it's enough to give *some* flexibility in gear selection, and most importantly, it affords chain tension adjustment.

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    here is my 1994/95? gt borrego hacked off the rear end, welded it back together and low and behold fatties fit fine.Its also single speed its the only way to travel.Lets see some SS fatbikes!-sdc1300069.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by angryx View Post
    here is my 1994/95? gt borrego hacked off the rear end, welded it back together and low and behold fatties fit fine.Its also single speed its the only way to travel.Click image for larger version. 

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    unfortunately, spokes were alittle to long so I did what I had to. It gives it a different look than other bikes and it makes the wheel alot stiffer.

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    That GT looks awesome.

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    That GT rules! Standard BB width? No offset wheel with a 135mm rear hub? Elaborate, please!

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    yes plese

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    I know I've posted these already but thought I'd contribute to this thread as well.

    Here it is fresh from the build


    Another angle....


    And here is a short video clip of one of the early "test rides". Absolute blast for sure....... finding the gear a little too hot on really soft sand. At least for MY legs......
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    Here's my crummy, slow-going blog The Slow Spoke if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orkje View Post
    That GT rules! Standard BB width? No offset wheel with a 135mm rear hub? Elaborate, please!
    +1

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    ska, that video is awesome. Nice editing.
    Just a regular guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ska View Post
    I know I've posted these already...
    The Pug looks quite lean and businesslike in that colour.

    Have you weighed it?
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    thanks for the interest in my frame. as soon as I have my 5 posts I can start my own thread and not jack this one. I will post more pics before, I painted the gt.By the way I did extend the bb. I will show you.

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    Angryx, is that a standard BB, how did the chain line up?

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    First SS snow ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    jncarpenter,

    What make of high-flange front hub is that?

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    after screwing around with a number of different internal gear hubs I've decided to turn this thing into the singlespeed that it always wanted to be.
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    I love the single speeds they look so clean and so much fun the ride

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    Pugsley sizing and rules

    I know that this has been discussed off and on for ages but I'm a little confused.

    I'm about to buy a Pugs. I'm 6 feet tall and have a 33" inseam.

    On the surly site I'm between an 18" and a 20" pugsley. I ride a large (19") stump jumper and a 56cm road frame normally.

    I sat on both last week and both were comfortable but I understand from different forums that you should go smaller for the increased stand over height but what about overlap with the front wheel? I have size 9 feet (small i know)

    The guy at Bow Cycles said that I would be a 20" for sure but he didn't know about the need for increased stand over height with snow.......and also that your height will change with winter boots.

    I'm a bit confused guys and would love some input....... I wanna start fatbiking soon but I need to know what size frame I will need before I order.

    Richie

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesilversurfer View Post
    I know that this has been discussed off and on for ages but I'm a little confused.

    I'm about to buy a Pugs. I'm 6 feet tall and have a 33" inseam.

    On the surly site I'm between an 18" and a 20" pugsley. I ride a large (19") stump jumper and a 56cm road frame normally.

    I sat on both last week and both were comfortable but I understand from different forums that you should go smaller for the increased stand over height but what about overlap with the front wheel? I have size 9 feet (small i know)

    The guy at Bow Cycles said that I would be a 20" for sure but he didn't know about the need for increased stand over height with snow.......and also that your height will change with winter boots.

    I'm a bit confused guys and would love some input....... I wanna start fatbiking soon but I need to know what size frame I will need before I order.

    Richie
    Size the bike by the effective TT you need not by the standover.

    I've got no standover clearance on my Pugs and it's not an issue. I was out riding some techy trails last night with my Pugs and stopping suddenly, crashing, etc... I'm still a man today...

    I've had the Bow Cycle guys size me just by looking at me and every time it's been bang on.

    Besides if you go with their recommendation and you end up being unhappy they'll get you on a smaller Pugs. If you go against their recommendation and later conclude you need a bigger Pugs you'll be on your own.
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    well,I tried to post a pic of my homebrew frankenfat,but as my post count is less than 10,I can't. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm6 View Post
    jncarpenter,

    What make of high-flange front hub is that?

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    Chub hub, now made by Hive/E13.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    Chub hub, now made by Hive/E13.
    THX. Just found your thread "The PhatSchtickel!!!!" in the 29er subforum with plenty of pics including the Chub front hub by the HIVE. Nice built.


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    The chub hub looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm6 View Post
    THX. Just found your thread "The PhatSchtickel!!!!" in the 29er subforum with plenty of pics including the Chub front hub by the HIVE. Nice built.
    Thanks...that is a fun bike, and I decided to keep it...but the SS bike pictured above is the most recent build


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    @ jncarpenter


    What kind of internal gear are you using? It looks very closed and fit


    Regards from Spain

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    Just SS'd my pug to lighten things up and see how it worked. Quite well is the answer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ov3rm4x View Post
    @ jncarpenter


    What kind of internal gear are you using? It looks very closed and fit


    Regards from Spain
    I'm sorry, but I don't think I understand the question...???


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    J Lackey's SS Fatback

    This is one the the sexiest bike we have put out, and rides even better than it looks. Can't wait to see John throw some power to it.
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    Whoa.
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    I love that Fatback!…..what wheels are they?

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    Oh damn.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesilversurfer View Post
    I love that Fatback!…..what wheels are they?
    These are a special project wheelset using the Uma III 90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork View Post
    This is one the the sexiest bike we have put out, and rides even better than it looks. Can't wait to see John throw some power to it.
    HOLY CRAP that looks awesome!!!
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    Am I really the first to ask what it weighs?

    What's it weigh!?!?!
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    That is so sick……now where is Pete's number in Oregon…..I had it somewhere here…lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderberry View Post
    Am I really the first to ask what it weighs?

    What's it weigh!?!?!
    It's 27 1/2lbs. Still waiting on a few parts, so it's not quite where it will be. We're doing the new Middleburn X type cranks whenever they get done with the spindles. The Mr. Whirleys are loaners in the meantime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork View Post
    We're doing the new Middleburn X type cranks whenever they get done with the spindles.
    what will be the chainline of the second ring ?

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    That is one badass bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork View Post
    This is one the the sexiest bike we have put out, and rides even better than it looks. Can't wait to see John throw some power to it.




    I think I just did a little 'sex wee'.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork View Post
    It's 27 1/2lbs. Still waiting on a few parts, so it's not quite where it will be. We're doing the new Middleburn X type cranks whenever they get done with the spindles. The Mr. Whirleys are loaners in the meantime.
    That seems kind of heavy. What does the bare AL frame weigh in at? The fork is just under 2 lbs right?

    With light parts what do you think you could get it down to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlupfer View Post
    after screwing around with a number of different internal gear hubs I've decided to turn this thing into the singlespeed that it always wanted to be.
    smart move

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    First time out Feb.25,2012. Anyone else ride in the New Jersey Pinelands?
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    Nice One Cog...love the coaster brake! We will have to get together for the W40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOBBY605 View Post
    We will have to get together for the W40.
    I sent you a pm on that.

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    Bumps...

    Fresh bikes, pics anyone? Planning my next summer singlespeed ride, it's definitely going to be fat, but...used pugs? 2013 Mukluk (alternator dropouts)? Anyone ever get a carver ti with slider option? Anyone ever bothered to check a magic gear on a '12 Mukluk? Or other frame? Want to keep my Muk 2 geared and more or less winter oriented.

    Thinking:
    Marge Lite/hope hub for wheels. Spacer kit or homebrew pvc, 32:21
    Nate 120 front, lightweight HuDu back
    E13 crank probably? Chainring?
    As many carbon bits as I can afford to throw at it (need fork, have bars...) Or possibly new aluminum fork from Beargrease?
    BB7s or Shimano SLX
    Thompson post/stem probably

    What's your ride...or dream?

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    Here you go


    In It's Element by paulfulford, on Flickr

    And in a more urban setting


    Pugsley goes sightseeing by paulfulford, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by flashes View Post
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    keep the pics coming guys im loving them .

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    Black Sheep - Snow Salamander

    68 mil BB - Schpumpf 2 Speed - Double Dingle Speed (Quingle?) - *not a single* - Haters gonna hate

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    sorry about the large pics.... not sure how to scale them properly. Booo.

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    I do love that purple beach pugs...

    And the sheep is nice, like that you can run a regular 68 bb, I wasn't sure if that was possible if you had a dedicated single (dingle, quingle) fat frame made... Interesssting....

    Mukluk, anyone? Tensioner, magic? I need to go play around with mine and see what I can see, my wife will kill me though she likes riding it and likes gears.

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    Do any of you ss'ers ride on front range of co? I really want a fb but am not a fan of gears so I'm not sure a ss is doable on these bikes. Curious to hear your thoughts.

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    Do any of you ss'ers ride on front range of co? I really want a fb but am not a fan of gears so I'm not sure a ss is doable on these bikes. Curious to hear your thoughts.
    Curious to hear the same thing. Would love to ride a Beargrease or Pugsley, but do not want the hassle of dealing with all of the gears. Wonder how the SS would do in Colorado in winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet View Post
    Curious to hear the same thing. Would love to ride a Beargrease or Pugsley, but do not want the hassle of dealing with all of the gears. Wonder how the SS would do in Colorado in winter.

    Never been to Colorado summer or winter, but ignorance has never stopped me chipping in

    Singlespeed will work fine anywhere, you'll need to find a ratio that works for your area trading off pushing uphill against spinning manically on the flats. It's really just a question of changing your mindset gaining simplicity against the greater flexibility that gears offer.
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    Is that a Schlumpf crankset hiding in there?
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    here is a pic of a friends new pug and my bikeLets see some SS fatbikes!-brantford-20120929-00513.jpg

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    I like the yellow.

    Here's mine


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    Old School Purple Pug

    A few pairs of brake pads, one brake bleed, one chain, one ISIS bottom bracket and a new front tyre in six years of ownership! 36 spoke wheels still straight and true after much abuse.

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    Fatback SS

    With the lack of Snow in CO front range thought I'd try something different; that is as long as the knees hold up. Ended up with 34:21 by way of the yess.

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    Not my fattest, but the Krampus holds up under SS fire:

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    Black Sheep - Snow Salamander

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    Fatty with Exzentriker and Turbine cranks for summer. 32-20 gearing seems quite ok. For winter, it's probably going to be 2x10.

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    2013 Necromancer.

    Modified with Thomson stem, post, Devo saddle, Bob Keller fork, UL Knards with lightweight Quality tubes. 36 x 18 gearing. 30.5 lbs

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    SURLY KramPug


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    Here's my PugSS - well kinda SS. It's dingled, 34x22 and 36x20. White Industries freewheels are awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgVT View Post
    White Industries freewheels are awesome!
    Best bike-related $100 I ever spent!
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    Brakeless fixie in the desert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Desert Walker View Post
    Brakeless fixie in the desert 30/16 fixed boooiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The cholla destroya
    I like it.

    I suppose when all else fails you can find a nice soft cactus to crash into...
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    That's nice. I was only thinking fixed fat the other day......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ska View Post
    I know I've posted these already but thought I'd contribute to this thread as well.

    Here it is fresh from the build
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    Another angle....
    IMG

    And here is a short video clip of one of the early "test rides". Absolute blast for sure....... finding the gear a little too hot on really soft sand. At least for MY legs......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomo View Post

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    Fatty with Exzentriker and Turbine cranks for summer. 32-20 gearing seems quite ok. For winter, it's probably going to be 2x10.
    Nice. This will be almost a carbon copy of my build when I get approval. Maybe not green cranks though. Happy to hear the Exzentriker works with the Turbines too.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    The Fat Pearl
    Lets see some SS fatbikes!-img_5666.jpg
    And with Black Sheep Bars
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    Out of interest, how wide are those BS bars?

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    FATBACK single checking in!
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    Tubeless with Marge Lites and Knards. 32-18, with a 20t freewheel front cog for the extra climbing gear if needed. LOVE this bike.




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    Would love your wheel / tyre combo. My fatty is pushing 36lb with the original Large Marge XCs and heavy tubes. Still love it though - 7 years of smiles and still going strong.

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    I don't have a good pic of the School Bus in SS mode, but this late summer/early fall I switched my Pugs over to SS just to try it out. I didn't think it was possible to make a fatbike even more fun, but it is! It'll go back to geared for the winter though. Running 32x19. Swapped the axle in the Deore hub with a plain solid one with some good axle nuts and put a SS kit on it.. Hasn't slipped but I have some tensioners on the way just to be safe. Was considering just throwing a freewheel on the "front" hub and switching wheels front-back, but I really didn't want to run my Endo up front.

    I don't think I'll run it geared in the spring/summer/fall ever again. Even when my wife wants to ride it, she doesn't complain about it being SS either. I love her

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    Haven't added mine to this, but here she is. 29.5 lbs and 30x20

    "I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew

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    What is everyone running for their wide spaced rear hubs? is anyone making SS specific freehub or screw-on type wide hubs?

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    I don't think anyone is manufacturing such a hub Cjell. Pretty sure the options are normal geared freehubs for 170mm or 135mm choices with offset frames. Please tell me you aren't planning to ride such a beast on the GDT next year!
    I see hills.

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    boohoo

    My latest bike was stolen and I am building another. I was planning on jumping on the Super-Short Chainstay bandwagon for a few reasons including: It's popular/marketable, Don McClung does it, would be optimal for 29+ handling. Anyway, would like to find a way to push the chainline out without running a geared hub. Enter-wide SS hub...that doesn't exist.

    Maybe offset, maybe spacer on freewheel, or running farther outboard on a SS freehub. Just messing about on MTBR for now...

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    Gone. I hope that dude is having as much fun being high as sh!t on crack as i had on the bike. It is technically SS and fat-ish. Anyway, building another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjellmoney View Post
    What is everyone running for their wide spaced rear hubs? is anyone making SS specific freehub or screw-on type wide hubs?
    I don't see any benefit to making a wide hub SS-specific. The hub flanges are already spaced so that the wheel is stiff. Pushing the right flange outboard would only increase bracing angle of the drive side spokes, but that angle isn't shallow to begin with.

    For the same reason I recommend regular cassette hubs + a spacer kit for anyone who wants a SS wheelset for their Moonlander. It makes for the most symmetric spoke tension. Using a SS hub would ruin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Lumikko View Post
    I don't see any benefit to making a wide hub SS-specific. The hub flanges are already spaced so that the wheel is stiff. Pushing the right flange outboard would only increase bracing angle of the drive side spokes, but that angle isn't shallow to begin with.

    For the same reason I recommend regular cassette hubs + a spacer kit for anyone who wants a SS wheelset for their Moonlander. It makes for the most symmetric spoke tension. Using a SS hub would ruin it.
    I looked at this too and came to much the same conclusion.

    The only thing is many SS dedicated hubs have a better takeup in the freehub, so that is all that's lacking.
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    If we're reviving the thread, we might as well add recent(ish) photos.

    Playtime on Soldotna to Homer beach ride.

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    Revival Part II

    sean salach - How much gear were you packing, and what was your gearing with that set up?

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    It was a 3 day beach trip. I generally pack pretty light, but brought a few luxuries along on this trip as far as food/beer and camp go. I would guess a base weight of 15 - 20 lbs plus 8 beers and maybe 9 lbs total food. I was usually carrying 100 oz of water at a time. The weight was pretty evenly divided between bike and body.

    Gearing was 32 x 22.

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    What do you mean by SS specific? Something like the Surley New Hub with thread on free wheel, or something like the Hope SS Trials Hub, that uses a short Shimano splined cassette.

    I would love a FatSno SS Trials hub. But I see your point. It may be better to get the standard cassette but with the 80 points of engagement.

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    Just built this up last week:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Just built this up last week:
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    Holy balls that is a f'n cool looking bike!
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    Thanks! I am having a blast with it! It’s the second lightest bike in my stable at the moment, at just shy of 27 pounds. Wish I’d had been able to justify spending more for the Next SL carbon cranks to drop a couple pounds though.
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    Thanks for the info, sean salach.

    Porkstacker - What gearing are you using? Is that an Endless sticker? Love their cogs.

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    I suppose I'm breaking the rules, because mine is technically a dinglespeed, but here's the Muk in all it's glory. Set up Knards tubeless and put on Shimano Hydros instead of the Avids it did have. 28lbs 7oz as it sits currently. Same gear ratio as the Blackborow DS. 30x18 and 26x22.Lets see some SS fatbikes!-img_2799.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    Porkstacker - What gearing are you using? Is that an Endless sticker? Love their cogs.
    Yes, running a 32t Endless narrow-wide chainring and an 18th cog. Of course, anodized purple. Now I just need to find a tensioner that doesn’t suck ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Yes, running a 32t Endless narrow-wide chainring and an 18th cog. Of course, anodized purple. Now I just need to find a tensioner that doesn’t suck ass.
    Can't go wrong with a Rennen Rollenlager tensioner, a little annoying to need a wrench to tighten, but very sturdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adw31 View Post
    Can't go wrong with a Rennen Rollenlager tensioner, a little annoying to need a wrench to tighten, but very sturdy.
    Thanks! Just ordered one. Looks like it has the range of tension into the chain (as opposed to outward tension) that will work on my 9:zero:7. The Sette tensioner hasn’t got the required clearance.
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    Works well pushing up on the chain. I've had to use a washer to space it out on a frame that the hanger wasn't flush with the dropout, set up and tension is easy to adjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Thanks! I am having a blast with it! It’s the second lightest bike in my stable at the moment, at just shy of 27 pounds. Wish I’d had been able to justify spending more for the Next SL carbon cranks to drop a couple pounds though.
    Really LP? A couple of pounds difference between Next SL and what you've currently got?
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob View Post
    Really LP? A couple of pounds difference between Next SL and what you've currently got?
    1040 grams versus 425 grams. Sorry, 1.3 pounds… “almost” (but not quite) a couple of pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    1040 grams versus 425 grams. Sorry, 1.3 pounds… “almost” (but not quite) a couple of pounds.


    Race Face says it's 590 grams. Race Face

    Where did the 425 number come from? Maybe not including bb cups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach View Post
    Race Face says it's 590 grams. Race Face

    Where did the 425 number come from? Maybe not including bb cups?
    fatbikes.com website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    1040 grams versus 425 grams. Sorry, 1.3 pounds… “almost” (but not quite) a couple of pounds.
    It's still a lot, regardless. Nice bike man.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Just built this up last week:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Holy balls that is a f'n cool looking bike!
    This^^^!!! Keep coming back to gawk at it. tubeless on those nexties is so beasty.

    Not too sure I've seen many running Lou-Nate either. Interesting. You been running that combo for a while? Supercrawler?

    This bike makes me wanna go smash smurf villages in the hills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenmonkey View Post
    This^^^!!! Keep coming back to gawk at it. tubeless on those nexties is so beasty.

    Not too sure I've seen many running Lou-Nate either. Interesting. You been running that combo for a while? Supercrawler?

    This bike makes me wanna go smash smurf villages in the hills...
    Have since upgraded to a Lou in back. The Nate was just temporary, and I wasn’t able to get it set up tubeless. Getting the Lou set up tubeless was pretty easy: 3/8" wide strip of Gorilla tape down the middle of the spoke holes, seat beads with innertube, delflate, pop one side of bead and remove tube, soap up other unseated bead side, inflate with compressor, deflate, inject with Stan’s, all is good! Bike is only two ounces heavier now (Nate was running a tube).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Thanks! Just ordered one. Looks like it has the range of tension into the chain (as opposed to outward tension) that will work on my 9:zero:7. The Sette tensioner hasn’t got the required clearance.
    Well that totally sucks! Rennen tensioner arrived today (after my race) and well, it simply doesn’t work on my 9:zero:7 frame with my 32x18 ratio. Roller wheel submarines into the driveside chainstay, so I cannot get it to provide enough tension. I suppose it would work fine if I were running a 32x20, but that would be too spinny of a ratio.

    Meanwhile, it would seem as though the only singlespeed tensioner that will work is one of the Paul Components Melvin tensioners. Expensive, but I’ll try it out.
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    Try the DMR STS II tensioner, or the Black Spire Stinger. Both should work on that frame. The STS makes wheel removal take a tiny bit longer, but works really, really well. Stinger is really light and simple, but not easily adjustable. I have around 5 years of use on an STS. Just repacked the bearings after submerging it in seawater repeatedly over a three day ride, then ignoring it for 6 months. Rolls good as new. I heven't used the Stinger, but it will be running it on my new frame.

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    What about taking out a link so there's less slack to take up. Also could take a link out and add in a half link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    I suppose it would work fine if I were running a 32x20, but that would be too spinny of a ratio.

    Meanwhile, it would seem as though the only singlespeed tensioner that will work is one of the Paul Components Melvin tensioners. Expensive, but I’ll try it out.
    How about 36/20 then? You'd get a bigger cog and retain the same gear ratio.

    If you go the way of double-jockey tensioners, just get an old RD (short or even road type) and it won't break the bank. The Melvin looks as complicated anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Lumikko View Post
    How about 36/20 then? You'd get a bigger cog and retain the same gear ratio.
    Agreed.

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    If only there were a way to try them all out… without having to purchase them and end up with a collection of ones that don’t work.
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    Black Spire Stinger wins! Best tensioner I've tried yet.

    -Low profile and out of the way.

    -Wheel removal is as easy as with an ebb or magic gear.

    -Light. 90 grams. Could probably be drilled out even lighter.

    -Fixed/static. No annoying, failing springs or pivots. It has a reasonable amount of adjustment, and once it's adjusted you can effectively forget about it.

    -Can be set to push up or down.

    I see no downsides yet. Maybe, if you for some reason need to remove it from the bike. That would be time consuming. But I really can't see a good reason to need to do that if the bike is staying ss.

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    Nice, good summary.

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    I see no downsides yet. Maybe, if you for some reason need to remove it from the bike. That would be time consuming. But I really can't see a good reason to need to do that if the bike is staying ss.
    When I ran a Yess ETR-B for a while, I didn't need to fiddle with it in practice.

    Say, how's the noise with the Stinger? My Yess unit was a bit chatty.
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    Both the Stinger and DMR STS make an audible noise as the chain passes over the rollers. It's not as loud as knobbies on asphalt, but it's there. Hasn't bothered me. I bet if it was modified to have a derailler pulley instead of a roller, the noise would mostly go away.

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    Always thought the Stinger would be a good tensioner to use on a non SS bike!

    While I'm here, I keep forgetting to post this in here. Loving the SS Puffin!
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    It's almost ideal for ss period. It's lighter than an ebb, sliders or rockers, doesn't affect geometry when changing out to a different gear and allows easier wheel removal than track ends. Only place it would lose is for trials, if going to the bashring, on frames with thick chainstay yokes like most carbon frames, since they necessitate it sitting lower than the chainring.

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    Best thread in the house right now. These bikes are badass. Rock on boys.

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    love this thread.. really makes me think about changing the fatty over to SS for the summer.

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    Why wait for summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr45h View Post
    love this thread.. really makes me think about changing the fatty over to SS for the summer.
    Sure does!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach View Post
    Black Spire Stinger wins! Best tensioner I've tried yet.

    -Low profile and out of the way.

    -Wheel removal is as easy as with an ebb or magic gear.

    -Light. 90 grams. Could probably be drilled out even lighter.

    -Fixed/static. No annoying, failing springs or pivots. It has a reasonable amount of adjustment, and once it's adjusted you can effectively forget about it.

    -Can be set to push up or down.

    I see no downsides yet. Maybe, if you for some reason need to remove it from the bike. That would be time consuming. But I really can't see a good reason to need to do that if the bike is staying ss.

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    Why did you go with pushing down mode rather than pushing up? Any particular reason? Does the down mode prevent a bit of chain "bounce" upward that would happen if you did it in push up mode?

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    It's just what worked with my chainstay length, gear combo and the angle of the arm as it was set up. I initially tried it in push up mode and I still had a little bit of slack in the chain. In theory, it might create a little bit less resistance, but I doubt it's significant enough to be noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach View Post
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    I just don't know if I want to torture myself that much right now. snow conditions vary so much. if i rode all hard-pack, then maybe, but i don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr45h View Post
    I just don't know if I want to torture myself that much right now. snow conditions vary so much. if i rode all hard-pack, then maybe, but i don't.
    For me, a dingle is the way to go. Mainly because I like to ride to the trails. 12 mile round trip would truly be torture with snow gearing. As soon as I can find the right set of chainrings for MWOD, I'll be converting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    For me, a dingle is the way to go. Mainly because I like to ride to the trails. 12 mile round trip would truly be torture with snow gearing....
    It sure is. I'm prefer SS, but I ride to my trails, and this is the biggest hassle, and dingle is one answer.

    A simple light 2 or 3 ultra wide ratio speed hubgear is something I'd love - basically a bog/snow gear, a trail gear, and a getting to the trail gear. Not exactly single speed though, but a clean chainline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    It sure is. I'm prefer SS, but I ride to my trails, and this is the biggest hassle, and dingle is one answer.

    A simple light 2 or 3 ultra wide ratio speed hubgear is something I'd love - basically a bog/snow gear, a trail gear, and a getting to the trail gear. Not exactly single speed though, but a clean chainline.
    Also, it should come in 197 thru axle spacing.... I would probably get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    It sure is. I'm prefer SS, but I ride to my trails, and this is the biggest hassle, and dingle is one answer.

    A simple light 2 or 3 ultra wide ratio speed hubgear is something I'd love - basically a bog/snow gear, a trail gear, and a getting to the trail gear. Not exactly single speed though, but a clean chainline.
    Yes, something like the Shimano Nexus 3 speed in 170 & 190mm widths would be awesome!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    Yes, something like the Shimano Nexus 3 speed in 170 & 190mm widths would be awesome!!
    ^^hear, hear^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    It sure is. I'm prefer SS, but I ride to my trails, and this is the biggest hassle, and dingle is one answer.

    A simple light 2 or 3 ultra wide ratio speed hubgear is something I'd love - basically a bog/snow gear, a trail gear, and a getting to the trail gear. Not exactly single speed though, but a clean chainline.
    Having been a ss guy for the majority of the last 15 years and have raced waaaaay more with one gear than any other combo i always find it amusing to hear a majority of "ssers" yapping about this gear for this and that gear for that.

    If your ratio is way too easy where yer spinning out on the flats and it's annoying to get to and from the trailhead then yer running too easy of a gear and you might as well go 1x10 or something and get a real range that is still super simple. Ss riding isn't supposed to be easy. It's not about needing a different gear for each new trail or location. It's about standing, sitting, or running with the bike. If yer able to stay seated on most tough climbs then yer ss ratio is way too easy.

    52 inch gear has and always will be about right for living ss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    ...If your ratio is way too easy where yer spinning out on the flats and it's annoying to get to and from the trailhead then yer running too easy of a gear and you might as well go 1x10 or something and get a real range that is still super simple. Ss riding isn't supposed to be easy. It's not about needing a different gear for each new trail or location. It's about standing, sitting, or running with the bike. If yer able to stay seated on most tough climbs then yer ss ratio is way too easy....
    Single speed isn't a religion. Single speed is just nice and simple and suits most circumstances. It's about having a simple straight chainline so you can go bashing through rocks or scrub and not worry about wrecking a derailleur, and having minimal maintenance.

    There is no right ratio. In my youth, before mtbs, the purists all claimed 63" was the right ratio, and of course, we had to ride fixed. (Not to mention riding on tubulars ).

    The purists were wrong about the perfect ratio because the mtb came along, and it could be ridden in places a skinny tyre 63" bike couldn't be, and the common ratio dropped to 32/16 (52"). No doubt the purists curled their lips in contempt at such degeneracy.

    Then along came the fat bike, and suddenly the standard mtb proved to be a very inadequate offroad vehicle in comparison. Fat bikes create different circumstances and benefit from an even lower gear because they can get grip where no other bike can, and that lower ratio is much too low to spin for long periods on the road. Hence the need for a transit gear to make it pleasant. A dingle speed is equally valid for a clean chainline.

    Getting stronger and adapting is all very well, but most regular single speeders are already pretty fit.

    I can still ride my fixed skinny tyred CX bike round our local mtb course, but it is not pleasant to do so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Single speed isn't a religion. Single speed is just nice and simple and suits most circumstances. It's about having a simple straight chainline so you can go bashing through rocks or scrub and not worry about wrecking a derailleur, and having minimal maintenance.

    There is no right ratio. In my youth, before mtbs, the purists all claimed 63" was the right ratio, and of course, we had to ride fixed. (Not to mention riding on tubulars ).

    The purists were wrong about the perfect ratio because the mtb came along, and it could be ridden in places a skinny tyre 63" bike couldn't be, and the common ratio dropped to 32/16 (52"). No doubt the purists curled their lips in contempt at such degeneracy.

    Then along came the fat bike, and suddenly the standard mtb proved to be a very inadequate offroad vehicle in comparison. Fat bikes create different circumstances and benefit from an even lower gear because they can get grip where no other bike can, and that lower ratio is much too low to spin for long periods on the road. Hence the need for a transit gear to make it pleasant. A dingle speed is equally valid for a clean chainline.

    Getting stronger and adapting is all very well, but most regular single speeders are already pretty fit.

    I can still ride my fixed skinny tyred CX bike round our local mtb course, but it is not pleasant to do so.



    And what's the point of doing that if it's not pleasant? Horses for courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    no dood. ss is serious bidness! horses for courses is why god invented multi-speeds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I always believed the devil designed derailleurs. I was convinced of this way back in the dawn of time when my you-beaut nylon Simplex derailleur snapped in half on a very steep climb. During the imprecations following the TTTII* I was divinely inspired to remove the derailleur, singlespeed the bike on the spot and hurl the derailleur as far as I could into the woods. Never looked back.



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    superr steep climbs were meant to be run (faster than riding) on foot with bike on shoulder or at one's side holding the tt, not one of those silly extra handle thingys that are being welded to all these new metroseXual custom frames out there these days.

    gotta go shovel more fvcking snow, but i'll be back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    handle thingys...these new metroseXual custom frames...

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    MattgVT... I see your Stowe Green chair SS and raise you a green chair SS pic.

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    Lets see some SS fatbikes!

    Eversince I switched to SS, i never climbed a hill on the wrong gear. Sometimes having no choices is great. here's a pic of my fatbike geared up to 32x22 from 32x23
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRockF3 View Post
    Eversince I switched to SS, i never climbed a hill on the wrong gear. Sometimes having no choices is great.
    Agreed! Sharp ride, how's the Hugo's working for you?
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    Thanks! Unfortunately, i havent had a chance to ride this with the Hugos. I just got the fork and handle bar this weekend. They did inflate tubeless with a floorpump. Mounting the tires had a little resistance. I'll post an update as soon as I can. I'll be comparing it to tubeless MargeLites w HuDus

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRockF3 View Post
    Eversince I switched to SS, i never climbed a hill on the wrong gear. Sometimes having no choices is great. here's a pic of my fatbike geared up to 32x22 from 32x23
    Nice looking bike. BTW, Are you in Tx BBQ?
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    Thanks Drevil! Yezzur I am.

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    Non-SS frame but still lot of fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by VitaliT View Post
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    That just looks totally b¡tchen!!! Is that a Paul Components Melvin SS tensioner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    That just looks totally b¡tchen!!! Is that a Paul Components Melvin SS tensioner?
    No its Shimano Alfine S500 Chain Tensioner
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    I blame all of you.


    It's actually really perfect. 30x19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    I blame all of you.


    It's actually really perfect. 30x19.
    Very nice! I didn’t know Salsa made a fatbike with swapouts… I race singlespeed (on my fatbike) and am getting tired of having to run a tensioner (every single type has given me problems); perhaps a Salsa is in my future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Very nice! I didn’t know Salsa made a fatbike with swapouts… I race singlespeed (on my fatbike) and am getting tired of having to run a tensioner (every single type has given me problems); perhaps a Salsa is in my future.
    This is Salsa's "Alternator" setup, which is on their Mukluk and Blackborow fatties, and a few of their skinny bikes. There's a few styles of Alternator plates to choose from too. It's a pretty slick system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    This is Salsa's "Alternator" setup, which is on their Mukluk and Blackborow fatties, and a few of their skinny bikes. There's a few styles of Alternator plates to choose from too. It's a pretty slick system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    I’ve determined that a through-axle SS setup is for me.
    Using Black Spire Stinger and a half link(if needed for gear combo), ANY thru axle fat frame will work for you. There is less that could go wrong with the stinger than swinger/rocker dropouts.

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    There's a thru axle Alternator plate set, includes the axle too. It's aftermarket for the Mukluk, but an easy conversion. In fact, the Blackborow DS comes with it.

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    I did this conversion to my 2013 muk when I got my whisky/hope wheelset. The wheels are really stiff so it is hard to tell how much it stiffened up the rear end but I'm not going back to qr any time soon


    Just switched back to SS last night, love the ease and versatility of this bike!
    32/17 for now
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    I am sold on single speed and now I have no interest to ever go back.. (Mainly because I don't have these components for a geared setup.. hehe.) But seriously though, I will probably keep it like it is.

    22x32 suits me right now.

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    Looks great Qtep!!

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    Yes, awesome rig Qtep!

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    Nice!
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    Here's Mine....

    Lets see some SS fatbikes!-img_3411.jpg

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    Love this photo

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    Vertigo Cycles titanium fat bike with Black Sheep Faith fork. I've changed bits and pieces over the 3+ years I've had it. It's the funnest bike I've owned.


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    "Keep your burgers lean and your tires fat." -h.d. | ssoft | flickr

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    My LES Fat is supposedly arriving today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay View Post
    My LES Fat is supposedly arriving today
    For you then.....
    Lets see some SS fatbikes!-img_0369.jpg

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    Sick! I have HEDs waiting too

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    Drevil's vertigo is sooo hawt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay View Post
    Sick! I have HEDs waiting too
    Thanks. Those aren't HED's, HED's were unavailable when I built these up, but they would be nice. They are LB 90mm rims on I9 hubs. well the geared rear is and I9, the SS wheel is a 907 hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil View Post
    Vertigo Cycles titanium fat bike with Black Sheep Faith fork. I've changed bits and pieces over the 3+ years I've had it. It's the funnest bike I've owned.


    FatPinklespeed by bundokbiker, on Flickr

    With the amount of time it seems to spend in the air, it must be indestructible.
    As little bike as possible, as silent as possible.
    Latitude: 57º36' Highlands, Scotland

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    Looks a lot like trail I used to ride in Glendora, Ca.

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    Finally picked mine up from the shop today! First ride was today, awesome! Still way out of shape lol.


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