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    Just gonna leave this here.

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    "Come mid '15 we will have a 4.5" tyre"? Hmmmmm! Interesting. Might be a wee bit disadvantageous having the holes for tubeless- I wonder if the complete rim w/out cut outs might have ended up lighter than using the layers of tape etc you would need to for this, but I guess the real point is 4.5" on a 90mm rim is going to be huge diameter- so what is it going to fit in, or is this, like the recent proto vee xxl 5.05 a bit speculative, build it and they will come sort of thing. Interesting indeed!
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    Are there any frames that will accept 29er fat rims? Or any fat 29er tires available? Seems like a component with limited or no compatibility.
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    Wait wait. According to that link this is the Xtreme fat bike guy. They mention having short sidewalls in the description. We made fun of it originally- but now that his rims will be carbon and 29" is this different?
    Did I read this wrong?!

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    To clarify- click the link in the eBay item description and it takes you here.
    Granted, I've had a few beers, but this description is freaking awful.
    https://www.fattirebikeparts.com/ind...ht-560g-detail
    What with the physics background and all the developers and rim symmetry, rim symmetry, rim symmetry.

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    "This gives us optional stiffness/durability"

    lol

    Those do look like real rim photos, though. I want to see what the real tire looks like.

    I still don't get the idea of a shallow tire depth. I rim strike enough as is.
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    So the holes will make tubeless a PITA, as it is now with any holey rim, and then they are going to make the tyre effectively a low profile to fit in normal fatbikes thus removing the 'sock absorber' effect from normal fat tyres... cant see it being a winner, but can knock someone for trying a new concept.

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    Just say no to tommicog.

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    Low profile makes some sense for ultra wide, flotation tires to keep the ridiculous tire heights in check. My 4.9's are closer to running out of room at the stay yokes than laterally. Not hard to see that the new XXL snowshoe is going to require some significant geo compromise to fit that much beef.

    I think fat 29er is a poor concept in general. Fat 26 is tall enough and extra fat 24 is probably a sounder concept that 29.

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    Mike, did you realize who this was when you posted?

    It'd be cool, were it just about anyone else, but this guy is a bit, um, special, and rather dear to our hearts when we need to have something symmetrically balanced, with zero customer service (and yes I speak from first hand experience) and XTREME!!!!!

    As for fat 29? If someone else want to? Bring it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post

    Edit: As an eBayer, anyone with 21 completed transactions who's already at 95.2%? I don't need a map.....
    I don't have a dog in this fight and I have no idea of the history of this person on the forum, but to be fair, when you only have 21 transactions, 1 negative feedback gives you a 95.2% positive rating. Not exactly conclusive.
    It's all good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    Low profile makes some sense for ultra wide, flotation tires to keep the ridiculous tire heights in check.
    Absolutely, for smooth surface snow riding and the like; as soon as you take that low profile near a techy rocky section on a beach there will be rim strikes a plently unless you up your pressures.

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    It needs to be a 32er. 29 is dead. 26 is perfect.

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    $800 for a pair of rims that there are no tires available for and a bunch of nonsense mumbo jumbo in the description. Doesn't really matter what his feedback score is does it? His response to the one negative feedback is just as nutty as the rest of the listing.

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    This guy again. How is he still around?
    The low profile idea sounds great, as long as the type of riding you do doesn't involve any turning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    The low profile idea sounds great, as long as the type of riding you do doesn't involve any turning.
    Such a good laugh to start out my Monday morning!
    I am certainly uncertain, at least I'm pretty sure I am.

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    I still don't get the low profile? Wouldn't you get more contact patch on a large casing 26" tire at very low psi than a low profile (small casing) 29" tire at the same psi? Maybe you couldn't even couldn't ride a low profile at the same low psi without riding on the rim? What say you smart people?

    Edit: talking same width tire, rim, and close to the same height.

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    Looks flexy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beicster View Post
    I don't have a dog in this fight and I have no idea of the history of this person on the forum, but to be fair, when you only have 21 transactions, 1 negative feedback gives you a 95.2% positive rating.
    Fair point. Speaking as someone who's proud of their 450+, 100% positive feedback though? It takes some effort to screw up badly enough in 21 of them, to warrant receiving bad feedback. A whole lot already went wrong on the sellers end apparently, since it's so easy to make things right if you're selling a legit product (new or used), representing it honestly, using good communication, shipping promptly, being willing to accept a return when the buyer is unhappy (even if it pisses you off cause they're wrong about whatever) etc.

    Still a big tell as to who you're dealing with, and when I see that with a seller, I proceed with *Xtreme* caution, and try to find the item with a different seller if at all possible.
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    Great idea...purchase a pair of rims that... 1. No tires available, 2. You need to call Twenty2 Cycles for another frame.

    I can see the deer in the headlights look from John & Randy!

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    I wonder if that eBay feedback is real? Did 20 or so real customers actually spend $800 on these things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I still don't get the low profile? Wouldn't you get more contact patch on a large casing 26" tire at very low psi than a low profile (small casing) 29" tire at the same psi? Maybe you couldn't even couldn't ride a low profile at the same low psi without riding on the rim? What say you smart people?

    Edit: talking same width tire, rim, and close to the same height.
    Someone else brought it up this time, but in the past, Mr Xtreme had posted renderings of his revolutionary low profile wheel/tire combo on his website.
    Who know what the heck he has in mind this time. I can't wait to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfinator View Post
    I wonder if that eBay feedback is real? Did 20 or so real customers actually spend $800 on these things?
    It appears none of these have been sold yet. The feedback is all for other items. He claims there are 10 sets available but the listing is for only one set.

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    New owner special?! Seems fishy.

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    I think he might get a modicum more respect and appear more legitimate if he could figure out the pricing ?

    $799 by my reading for "a set" on the ebay ad and the clicky link in the ad . But further down the same page on the clicky link he says "Plus, at only $695 per rim or sets at $1,295, this rim is priced well under all its competitors."

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    Come on now guys . This dude's on the cutting edge . He's pushing boundaries here .
    I mean who wouldn't want the latest tech out there ?
    Be a leader not a follower .
    Let's all jump on the hype wagon .
    Look at the latest(est) in full fat squish .

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    No doubt this is backed up by reams and reams of "factual data" to justify it's existence .



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    It's as if they saw the BD Quigley and thought... "I have the technology, I can make it better."
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    Look there... no no THERE. Ho.... That is some micro aerospace nasa tech shlt pivot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Biker View Post
    I think he might get a modicum more respect and appear more legitimate if he could figure out the pricing.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beicster View Post
    I don't have a dog in this fight and I have no idea of the history of this person on the forum, but to be fair, when you only have 21 transactions, 1 negative feedback gives you a 95.2% positive rating. Not exactly conclusive.
    Just look at all the claims on his website, you will be convinced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadoretteboat View Post
    Look there... no no THERE. Ho.... That is some micro aerospace nasa tech shlt pivot.
    I don't know which I like more.

    The rigid pivot
    The 25 profile tyres
    The USD QR forks
    Or the no doubt patented offset 180mm BB
    Is that BBright's fat bike BB ?

    Bet that thing corners like it's on rails


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Biker View Post
    "Plus, at only $695 per rim or sets at $1,295, this rim is priced well under all its competitors."
    Hard to be cheaper than your competitors if you're the only one making them.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadoretteboat View Post
    That is some micro aerospace nasa tech shlt pivot.
    It's the nano particles that make it stiffer, really!
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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