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    IGH function at and below zero

    There is a possibility of myself relocating to my adopted homeland of Montana. If I end up moving, I will likely be without a vehicle for 6 months and am thinking it might be a good reason to get a Rohloff for my Pugs. Before I even start doing the math to see what it would cost, I'm curious if anyone has used a Rohloff as their main setup in snow and ice.

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    I know that this has been addressed in the IGH forum:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/internal-gear-hubs/

    I don't see anything on the first page, but it gets well discussed every winter I've been in there.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    I know that this has been addressed in the IGH forum:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/internal-gear-hubs/

    I don't see anything on the first page, but it gets well discussed every winter I've been in there.
    Good call. I've browsed both sections and didn't come up with much, but after a few searches found what I was looking for.

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    A guy living out here in SW Alaska has a Rohloff on his Wildfire. He had to add a bit of kerosene to the hub to keep the grease from freezing solid. I guess it works well...problem is wen things warm, or he brings the bike inside...the lube then leaks past the seals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    A guy living out here in SW Alaska has a Rohloff on his Wildfire. He had to add a bit of kerosene to the hub to keep the grease from freezing solid. I guess it works well...problem is wen things warm, or he brings the bike inside...the lube then leaks past the seals...
    Thanks. That's good info. I'll probably just stay with gears. That way I can afford another wheelset.

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    A guy from Canadia on these forums (...AnthonyDeLorenzo I think is his name...) runs IGH's in the Great White North. I seem to remember he says they work fine till it gets frigid.
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    I've heard Lubriplate Mag-1 is the way to go, you're just supposed to replace the grease inside with that stuff. Although I heard the Alfine 11 has oil lubrication so you don't need to do that. Not entirely sure about that though..

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    Mag-1 still gets chunky when it gets cold-soaked at temps where F and C get similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    Mag-1 still gets chunky when it gets cold-soaked at temps where F and C get similar.
    My favorite times to ride! Too bad it doesn't get that cold very often.

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    Been running Alfines for four years now with no issues.... Temps up to 40 below. I run them lightly greased but I don't pack them full.

    Friend of mine runs a Rohloff with no issues. It's an oil bath so runs well. Gives it an oil change regularly is about it.

    That being said, although reliable the hubs do get slower and more draggy at the extreme cold temps. I'd be tempted to say that a derailleur may be more efficient.

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    12-19-08 http://forums.mtbr.com/alaska/derail...ed-476844.html
    "Update to that.... Yesterday the wife's Alfine (stored inside) was fine both ways on the -35 commute... BUT... When she left it outside for a couple of hours at yoga class, the shifting did freeze up. Engagement was fine, but she had to pedal home in lowest gear.

    Lesson to be learned, leave the hub in 4 or 5 if leaving the bike outside at extreme temps, just in case..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    ...Lesson to be learned, leave the hub in 4 or 5 if leaving the bike outside at extreme temps, just in case....
    Another option would be to prepare the cassette joint correctly. This has all been hashed out on the IGH forum. Lots of IGH riders not having any issues at -40*.

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    Could be cables freezing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthony.delorenzo View Post
    Could be cables freezing too.
    Good point! Does anyone run Gore cables?

    Obvious snow biking newb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intheways View Post
    Good point! Does anyone run Gore cables?

    Obvious snow biking newb.
    after freezing the brake cables on my singlespeed, and having issues at near freezing on my rando road rig, next cable swap i do on the pugs will be to gore (non IGH)

    i already converted the rando bike over. so smooth... after lots of slop.

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