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    If you see Todd's Pants...

    Kill Todd's Pants.









    Todd's Pants must be on fire. Fits with plenty of room to spare, no modifications needed. This is a Holzfeller 32/22 Crankset with a 11-34 cassette.
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    nice one!
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    TPI = Todds Pants Inferno

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    How much does it weigh?
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    Surly does some funny stuff sometimes

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    How comes Surly says they wont fit a Pugsley without losing a few gears, yet people keep fitting them with seemingly no issues?

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    They wont fit on 100mm wheels as they are to wide. On 65mm Marges, they just fit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    How comes Surly says they wont fit a Pugsley without losing a few gears, yet people keep fitting them with seemingly no issues?
    Even in the image shown here it looks too close for comfort in regards to that chain in the lowest combination on that Pugs. Get a little snow or dirt stuck on the tire, add in some rough terrain and that chain is going to be dragging on that tire, me thinks.

    These tires will fit current Salsas and Surlys with 80mm rims, but drive train mods will be necessary to get all combos without chain/tire interference. BFL's and 100mm rims will also work on Salsas with drive train mods.
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    Any reports yet on if the bead area of the Black Floyds has a message?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    Any reports yet on if the bead area of the Black Floyds has a message?
    Yes it does. I can't remember what it is though!
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    R.I.P. Pugsley.
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    Maybe you have to play it backwards for the real message to apear....

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    Who is Todd? Surly employee or future product?

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    That's just too funny. The label on my Surly cycling cap says something like, " Call if your going to be out late." .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    Any reports yet on if the bead area of the Black Floyds has a message?
    Black Floyd:
    DOES NOT SYNCHRONIZE WITH THE WIZARD OF OZ
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    ^
    Hahaha

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    I'm going with Todd's Pants, the music group:
    Todd's Pants | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos

    OP, your first picture looks like the bead isn't seated correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Even in the image shown here it looks too close for comfort in regards to that chain in the lowest combination on that Pugs. Get a little snow or dirt stuck on the tire, add in some rough terrain and that chain is going to be dragging on that tire, me thinks.
    There's more clearance than my picture alludes too. I'll try to get better pics. My granny gear is 22/34, a gear I rarely use. Only the little rubber casting "fingers" drag on the chain, and I'll be clipping those off soon. They tend to turn into icy lollipop lookin' things in the winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter View Post
    OP, your first picture looks like the bead isn't seated correctly.
    The message is hidden once the bead is seated, and I had to take a pic of it before I finished mounting the tire.
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    Hey OP, what rack is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRanger View Post
    Hey OP, what rack is that?
    Planet Bike Eco Rack

    Fits perfectly with no mods, just mount drive side to the "inner" part of the lower brazeon.
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    Smile Deep fried meat fed Nateopocolypse

    Finally got my BFL and Nate tires via the LBS. Mounted up Mr. Nate on the XC Large Marge hoop that rides in the SC 32. Had to redish slightly as the wheel was off a tad, no problem. About 3-4mm of clearance of the legs.

    Next up the BFL on the rear, figured it would be go or no go. Slipped onto the DH Large Marge easily for a steel bead. Wiggled it in place and it fits! Had to do just a small amout of tweaking on the front derailluer to have no rubbing. Reset the the brake caliper so there was no rub and I am rollin" phat.

    Now I just need some dry weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    There's more clearance than my picture alludes too. I'll try to get better pics. My granny gear is 22/34, a gear I rarely use. Only the little rubber casting "fingers" drag on the chain, and I'll be clipping those off soon. They tend to turn into icy lollipop lookin' things in the winter.

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    Gotcha. I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Planet Bike Eco Rack

    Fits perfectly with no mods, just mount drive side to the "inner" part of the lower brazeon.
    Thanks for the info. What size frame is that?

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    What does Nate say on the bead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frontranger View Post
    thanks for the info. What size frame is that?
    18"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borgschulze View Post
    What does Nate say on the bead?
    Deep Fried Meat Fueled Natepocolypse

    or something like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2 View Post
    Who is Todd? Surly employee or future product?
    Remember that photo from Surlys' blog with that shirtless guy struggling through
    ankle deep muck?

    That is Todd.

    The person in the background is Nate.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    $hit! I just figured out my highroller roof rack will no longer fit my Pugs with BFLs.

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    [QUOTE=scottybinwv;8428019]Finally got my BFL and Nate tires via the LBS. Mounted up Mr. Nate on the XC Large Marge hoop that rides in the SC 32. Had to redish slightly as the wheel was off a tad, no problem. About 3-4mm of clearance of the legs.

    Next up the BFL on the rear, figured it would be go or no go. Slipped onto the DH Large Marge easily for a steel bead. Wiggled it in place and it fits! Had to do just a small amout of tweaking on the front derailluer to have no rubbing. Reset the the brake caliper so there was no rub and I am rollin" phat.

    Now I just need some dry weather. [/QUOTE

    Hey Scotty did you happen to try the BFL on the SC32- will it fit?

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    Updated pics now that the tire has stretched another 2mm, now measures 100mm at 10psi on the 65mm Large Marge.









    Some street/trail time already thinks the weight difference from the 27tpi Larrys is very noticeable, and the more flexible casing is felt as well. I'm quite happy with the upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottybinwv View Post
    $hit! I just figured out my highroller roof rack will no longer fit my Pugs with BFLs.
    Did it fit with regular larry's? (without letting air out?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by loOse1 View Post
    Hey Scotty did you happen to try the BFL on the SC32- will it fit?
    No sir, I did not. It may fit or not. Next time I get to changing tires I might try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Did it fit with regular larry's? (without letting air out?)

    Yes, the Highroller fits the fat with the Endo or Larry with no air down on my Large Marge wheels. The Nate and Black Floyd should be ok but the BFL will not. Maybe aired down it will but then the bike will not be very stable in the rack. Part of the issue is the plastic ratchet strap is not long enough, I contacted Yakima about a longer strap over a year ago and was told it would not happen.

    Maybe if more folks ask for it they would make a longer strap, squeaky wheel gets the grease.

    I got a North Shore bike rack coming so that will fix that.

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