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    Highest traction tires 5”

    I beilieve the 2 highest traction tires are Maxxis minion FBF/FBR and the snowshoe2xl
    Are their other tires with tons of traction’s?
    i am looking at 4.5-5.05 inch wide tires
    thanks
    BONUS: What is the true width of the maxxis minion once mounted to a 100mm rim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Pikachu View Post
    I believe highest traction tires are
    Bud and Lou in the 4.8 size range?

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    If you're looking for snow traction, the Minions are only average and you should check the 2XL and J5 instead.

    My minions on 80mm rims are 4.4 at the knobs.

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    Minions on 100mm are 4.71”.

    The Bud has better grip than the Minions, but the terrain matters here.

    I would put the Bud above the J5. I run them and Minions. I do not run a Lou, so I can’t comnent on it.
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    studded J5's, Wrathchilds or Gnarwhals
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    How about trail specific traction?
    And by J5s do you mean Jumbo Jim 5 inch? (sorry, I dont understand all abbreviations.)
    So I am seeing 2xl best snow traction, and for trail riding what best traction tire?
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Pikachu View Post
    How about trail specific traction?
    And by J5s do you mean Jumbo Jim 5 inch? (sorry, I dont understand all abbreviations.)
    So I am seeing 2xl best snow traction, and for trail riding what best traction tire?
    Thank you
    J5 = Terrene Johnny 5

    2XL = best snow traction until there is ice involved then studded J5's take over.

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    for snow Bud/Lou if ice add gripstuds

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    2xl is to bud & Lou, as bud & Lou is to Nate. Plus the 2xl rolls a lot better than bud & Lou.
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    Another vote for bud/bud or bud/lou. Some people may consider them ugly though... :P

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    Might be somewhat pressure dependent, here. If you start to lower pressure, the 2xl is going to gain ground on others, just like in snow. But ride dynamics and rolling speed go out the window.

    I'm having a hard time imagining a non snow situation where I'd be willing to push the highest traction, big tyres(maybe an unclimbable hill?), but I'm not the op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    Might be somewhat pressure dependent, here. If you start to lower pressure, the 2xl is going to gain ground on others, just like in snow. But ride dynamics and rolling speed go out the window.

    I'm having a hard time imagining a non snow situation where I'd be willing to push the highest traction, big tyres(maybe an unclimbable hill?), but I'm not the op.
    Well the OP sounds like a beginner. Around Montreal, Quebec no experienced snow rider would consider any Maxxis as top and the XXL are never seen because
    A- most frames will not take them
    B- you need to be over 220 pounds to benefit
    At 135 pounds there is no way i would enjoy the 5.05 tires on 100 mm rims.
    My 90 mm rims and Bud/Lou studded just allow me the more hours on winter with flotation and grip to climb all i want/can.
    I am sure no retailer has them in stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33red View Post
    Well the OP sounds like a beginner. Around Montreal, Quebec no experienced snow rider would consider any Maxxis as top and the XXL are never seen because
    A- most frames will not take them
    B- you need to be over 220 pounds to benefit
    At 135 pounds there is no way i would enjoy the 5.05 tires on 100 mm rims.
    My 90 mm rims and Bud/Lou studded just allow me the more hours on winter with flotation and grip to climb all i want/can.
    I am sure no retailer has them in stock.
    I'm not too far from you in Maine, weigh about the same, and for soft snow, I enjoy Vee Snowshoe 2XL tires very much. They are a game changer. I can easily ride on stuff that makes riders who are heavier and/or on narrower tires have to walk.

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    Around Montreal there is barely enough snow to call it winter anyway (if I compare to where I live in Abitibi ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33red View Post
    Well the OP sounds like a beginner. Around Montreal, Quebec no experienced snow rider would consider any Maxxis as top and the XXL are never seen because
    A- most frames will not take them
    B- you need to be over 220 pounds to benefit
    At 135 pounds there is no way i would enjoy the 5.05 tires on 100 mm rims.
    My 90 mm rims and Bud/Lou studded just allow me the more hours on winter with flotation and grip to climb all i want/can.
    I am sure no retailer has them in stock.

    I think your metric to english calculations lost something in translation. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk3Rider View Post
    2xl is to bud & Lou, as bud & Lou is to Nate. Plus the 2xl rolls a lot better than bud & Lou.
    Switching from the PSC 2XLs back to Bud/Lou for the summer, I'm reminded of this. Any recommendations for faster rolling summer tires? I was thinking Jumbo Jims in 4.8". Any others to consider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    I think your metric to english calculations lost something in translation. Again.
    So...you are saying Endomorphs are the bestest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    So...you are saying Endomorphs are the bestest?

    Partially grip dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    Switching from the PSC 2XLs back to Bud/Lou for the summer, I'm reminded of this. Any recommendations for faster rolling summer tires? I was thinking Jumbo Jims in 4.8". Any others to consider?
    Any reason you need 4.8 for the summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCheesehead View Post
    Any reason you need 4.8 for the summer?
    Max float and cushion.

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    I vote Bud and Lou.
    I like turtles

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33red View Post
    Well the OP sounds like a beginner. Around Montreal, Quebec no experienced snow rider would consider any Maxxis as top and the XXL are never seen because
    A- most frames will not take them
    B- you need to be over 220 pounds to benefit
    At 135 pounds there is no way i would enjoy the 5.05 tires on 100 mm rims.
    My 90 mm rims and Bud/Lou studded just allow me the more hours on winter with flotation and grip to climb all i want/can.
    I am sure no retailer has them in stock.
    I dont know, nor do I care where you live but all of your 'facts' regarding the 2XL are false.

    My off the shelf frame fits 2XLs on 95mm rims with room to spare, I weigh 150lbs and these tires are what make fatbiking possible in the Alps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    Switching from the PSC 2XLs back to Bud/Lou for the summer, I'm reminded of this. Any recommendations for faster rolling summer tires? I was thinking Jumbo Jims in 4.8". Any others to consider?
    I have ridden through 2 sets of JJ 4.8's in only summer conditions and while they are excellent light weight tires, when they start to wear, the puncture resistance on rear disappears. I'm one of those annoying people who never get punctures or flats, but I've been stung on JJ's multiple times, I think because the open area between minimal knobs is huge and thin.

    I'm ready for another set of 5" ish tires for my Les Fat and I'm seriously considering the Minions based on my typical conditions.

    I will say, however, the JJ's are unbelievably light and very fast rollers. Your bike will be like an XC machine.

    Dirt Traction will only be awesome when the conditions are perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamis View Post
    I have ridden through 2 sets of JJ 4.8's in only summer conditions and while they are excellent light weight tires, when they start to wear, the puncture resistance on rear disappears. I'm one of those annoying people who never get punctures or flats, but I've been stung on JJ's multiple times, I think because the open area between minimal knobs is huge and thin.

    I'm ready for another set of 5" ish tires for my Les Fat and I'm seriously considering the Minions based on my typical conditions.

    I will say, however, the JJ's are unbelievably light and very fast rollers. Your bike will be like an XC machine.

    Dirt Traction will only be awesome when the conditions are perfect.
    Thanks for the feedback. I talked myself out of buying the Jumbo Jims. I've never wished for less traction or toughness in a tire. I'll just pedal harder or use a lower gear, and enjoy the traction of my Bud and Lou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. I talked myself out of buying the Jumbo Jims. I've never wished for less traction or toughness in a tire. I'll just pedal harder or use a lower gear, and enjoy the traction of my Bud and Lou.

    For summer use and pressures Bud is quite a bit faster than Lou. Still big and grippy and durable when needed.

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