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    Hey Moe!



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    Yo Larry!

    Nice !

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    Man, I could REALLY use one of those before Feb 25th. I'd be willing to drive to GJ to get one...

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    I hope this means delivery before February. Sure would be nice. How about side shot of the current set up Mike? I never tire of looking at that bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benwitt11
    I hope this means delivery before February. Sure would be nice. How about side shot of the current set up Mike? I never tire of looking at that bike.
    I don't know what it means for delivery. I assume the Surly knuckleheads (nyuk!) will keep us thusly informed.

    I only took a few shots of the tires tonight--inside the shop, crap light, handheld, etc...
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    Full-on, on-snow shots and some tire/ride impressions hopefully by Friday. Dunno about the pics but I suspect Moobs will have a ride report in the AM...

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    ooooooo...... How about a side by side shot with an endo on similar rim?

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    Greg was busy celebrating his wife's 29th birthday, so I snagged his Larry and got several hours on it tonight. Anchorage just got a few inches of fresh snow, so I really can't report much about performance, but Larry did seem to hook up better and I think it will make a great front tire. Nice job Surly.
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    Strictly form a snow bike point of view, what’s the point?
    Its heaver and round even on 100mm rims.

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    What kind off fork is that?? There is a sticker of moots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosbugs
    Strictly form a snow bike point of view, what’s the point?
    Its heaver and round even on 100mm rims.

    The point is that it should provide more control by having a more substantial and wider spaced side knob. This could really improve a person's ability to ride in a variety of snow conditions. This has been a weakness of the Endomorph. How much of a difference the Larry will make is still to be determined, but I think it's a step in the right direction. Could it it be better by being more square and have a more aggressive tread? Yeah, probably, but with a 3.7 tire you have to consider how much rolling resistance you're adding. It also has a lot of potential for a rear tire. Providing a little more bite than the Endo for riders looking for that.

    The sample I weighed was 1320 g. I'm not sure how this compares to the 60 tpi Endomorphs, but it is heavier. The added weight it due in part to the casing having a thicker more even coating of rubber which should make these a more durable tire which is another big plus in my opinion and worth the added weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mopper_smurf
    What kind off fork is that?? There is a sticker of moots?

    That's Mike's super duper custom fuel carrying Snoots. There are full pictures of it somewhere on here. The fork uses a Marzocchi crown and carries a few day's worth of white gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger
    Greg was busy celebrating his wife's 29th birthday.
    What was she doing? Minding the store?

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    So I just bought 4 of the new endos but when Larry comes out will it be a better tire for regular rock and root type trails?

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    i will let you know
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    is it noticeably bigger diameter or girth cf the endo?
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    Good Lord that thing is FAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger
    The point is that it should provide more control by having a more substantial and wider spaced side knob. This could really improve a person's ability to ride in a variety of snow conditions. This has been a weakness of the Endomorph. How much of a difference the Larry will make is still to be determined, but I think it's a step in the right direction. Could it it be better by being more square and have a more aggressive tread? Yeah, probably, but with a 3.7 tire you have to consider how much rolling resistance you're adding. It also has a lot of potential for a rear tire. Providing a little more bite than the Endo for riders looking for that.

    The sample I weighed was 1320 g. I'm not sure how this compares to the 60 tpi Endomorphs, but it is heavier. The added weight it due in part to the casing having a thicker more even coating of rubber which should make these a more durable tire which is another big plus in my opinion and worth the added weight.
    Pbasinger thanks for sharing your thoughts; hopefully you can follow-up after you get some mileage on them?
    It does remind me of my favorite front tire for snow in the day, the Dart SC. The directional knobs of the Dart did improve front end control in rutted snow and soft mash potato snow compared to the Coni semi slick I ran on the back.
    The higher thread count should be an improvement however I have to wonder if the additional rubber in the sidewalls will causes the tire to role markedly slower in sub -0 temp compared to the 60tpi Endos?

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    Finally found some ground firm enough to check out the Larry. It's definately an improvement. I was just on flat ground, so looking forward to some off camber hilly stuff tomorrow.
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    just wait until you see where i am going to test that one out at. i will find out it's off camber grip.
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    Very excited about these tires!
    Good looking rock sections, bighit. Looking forward to hearing how Larry does there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
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    The Larry is proving to be a great front tire. Highly recommended. I haven't tried Larry in the rear. You will have to ask Mikesee about that.
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    Re: the Larry: Good to hear!

    My Endos are waiting patiently in the basement and will be the first set on the new Pugs 'til Larry and Larry are available in...what was it...February?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork
    I haven't tried Larry in the rear.
    That's not the way Larry tells it. Both he *and* Russell said you were 'Way into it'.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dosbugs
    I have to wonder if the additional rubber in the sidewalls will causes the tire to role markedly slower in sub -0 temp compared to the 60tpi Endos?
    I think it is worth the compromise if it means the sidewall will last as long as the tread... If you don't like it, send me a set. I'll remove all that extra rubber from the sidewall in no time, and send them back

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    Man, I so want one or two of these. Seems like they"re here, I'm guessing just in super special small quantities though?

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    Dear Lars,

    Really nice to meet you. You're so much more predictable and like-able than that stuffy biotch Edna. Even though I've only known you for a few rides, I feel I can trust you completely.

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    Wow. What a rockin' set of photos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Really nice to meet you. You're so much more predictable and like-able than that stuffy biotch Edna. Even though I've only known you for a few rides, I feel I can trust you completely.


    Stick around as long as you like.

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    Thanks for the detailed shots. Is the widest point still at the sidewall when mounted to 100mm rims or do the larger knobs protrude somewhat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Even though I've only known you for a few rides, I feel I can trust you completely.
    You suck

    When do I get mine? as in, when does QBP get enough so that we less illuminated individuals can get our hands on them?

    Not expecting you to know, just expressing my angst. So, just curious, why the tire says 3.8, when it's the same casing. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    You suck

    When do I get mine? as in, when does QBP get enough so that we less illuminated individuals can get our hands on them?

    Not expecting you to know, just expressing my angst. So, just curious, why the tire says 3.8, when it's the same casing. Any thoughts?

    Nice pics too BTW, looks like fun

    I share your sentiments

    Innova considers that casing a 26x4.0. I suspect Surly (who i obviously can't speak for) takes their measurement as the width to the outside knobs when mounted to a large marge. The knobs on this tire stick out a hair further.

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    Nice!! Can't wait to get some, Pugsley season is here and I want some NOW
    Good on the rear also? It "looks" like more of a front tire, but flipped backwards I would assume it's still an improvement in rear traction over the Endo?

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    ...I was under the impression...

    ...that a tire's size was a statement of it's height not it's width...Effectively, though (especially with wide rims) a taller tire will also be a wider tire...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    when does QBP get enough so that we less illuminated individuals can get our hands on them?
    I think QBP is waiting for you to increase your luminence...



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    update?

    Now that you’ve had a chance to get to know Larry’s personality, may we get an update of your impression of the tire?

    I’ve been running the new 120 TPI Endos ; I agree added weight is a welcome thing because the sidewalls are holding up even running stupid low PSI and their round!
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    Slightly off topic, but anyway: I adore that Moots, but I wonder how many non-mtb people actually recognise it for what it is, namely, a bicycle. I'd love to park it somewhere and put cameras on it to gauge the reactions of passers-by.

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    I Noticed In mikesee's photo a DT 440 fr hub with a QR. Presuming that both the front and rear hubs are the same and that to clear the Larry the OLD is >= 165mm than ihese are REALLY SPECIAL hubs.

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    I had a thought on this but nevermind…<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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