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    Here is his Moto;



    After riding this, I was sold on the whole "fat is fun" thing!
    Before that I had talked THREE customers OUT of going full-fat. (sorry guys).

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    Second shot looks pink?
    He must have sent me the first one as I do not recognize the background?

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    Overhauled my drive train last night. The stock one was getting pretty bad.
    Broke another cog on the stock cassette while riding on the beach, time to put the new (warranty) one on. new chainrings
    new chain and cassette
    Still need some Rotors, but wheelset number 2 is ready for snow.
    out with the old
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    On some of my high-end wheels, I run a carbon spoke protector.

    It prevents the chain from jumping off and ruining my spokes, and my day.

    Wrecked the rear wheel (including the hub) on the first gen. Mavic Cross-Max's.
    When they had regular spokes. (long walk with the rear wheel stuck/tangled)

    That's how you do it.
    Actually WEAR OUT the stuff before just up-grading and re-placing!

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    Can anyone tell me if the front wheel's hub has rear or front disc spacing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rycolos View Post
    Thanks for the measurements, guys.

    One more question: I'm a bit confused about this rear disc hub/front disc hub stuff on surly forks. If I get a surly fork that is meant for a rear disc hub, will this pose a problem with the Gravity front wheel?
    The front hub on the monster has front disk spacing, so yes that will cause an issue. You can mod the caliper adapter, but unless you have acess to a mill I would just get a front spaced fork.
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    Oof. Methinks I should've just avoided the deal and got a stock one of these. All the cheap forks use rear spacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rycolos View Post
    Oof. Methinks I should've just avoided the deal and got a stock one of these. All the cheap forks use rear spacing.
    You can do this: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=900372
    It's really just modding a brake adapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMagic View Post
    I would bet the 4.5's will fit this frame.
    There is 1/2" on either side at the rear.
    A little less at the front.
    With the 170 rear hub, you might have to ditch the granny?

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    Thanks for the reply. I think I am going to order one but would really like to know if a wider tire fits on the Bullseye, any second opinions on the widest tire that would fit the frame and bluto?e

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobz View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I think I am going to order one but would really like to know if a wider tire fits on the Bullseye, any second opinions on the widest tire that would fit the frame and bluto?e
    If you're really just going for width, you should try to spring for a lurch or sturgis. They will take the biggest tires for not that much more.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Total newbie here who just got his bike yesterday !!!! Had a local shop finish the build ( I know, I know....it is my goal to become bike handy) anyway....on my first 500 yards pedaling I changed gears and the chain/derailer is now making a terrible sound as the chain is rubbing the derailer frame....wish I could send a vid.....hoping for advice on a quick fix so I can go for a NYE ride....the shop is closed until Monday. Thanks all

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    If you're really just going for width, you should try to spring for a lurch or sturgis. They will take the biggest tires for not that much more.
    Thanks and I would buy the Strurgis but it won't arrive until possibly early march which leaves us with not much snow left. The Bullseye would come in a week which is a huge to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobz View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I think I am going to order one but would really like to know if a wider tire fits on the Bullseye, any second opinions on the widest tire that would fit the frame and bluto?e
    For the Monster Pro: You could fit a bigger tire on the front. Not any bigger on the rear without running into issues with the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kretz View Post
    Total newbie here who just got his bike yesterday !!!! Had a local shop finish the build ( I know, I know....it is my goal to become bike handy) anyway....on my first 500 yards pedaling I changed gears and the chain/derailer is now making a terrible sound as the chain is rubbing the derailer frame....wish I could send a vid.....hoping for advice on a quick fix so I can go for a NYE ride....the shop is closed until Monday. Thanks all


    Most likely not rubbing on the cage as that would mean that it is bent or chain routed wrong, the shop would have (should have)caught that. More likely rubbing on the next ring on the cassette. Should be as easy as adjusting the tension knob on the shifter. Just need your thumbs! if its on either limit you might need to adjust the limit screws with a phillips screwdriver. Youtube is FULL of helpful videos for adjusting this specific derailleur.

    If it is rubbing on the cage you may need to bend it out, another thing to check is that the x4 has a tab on the frony of the cage that keeps the chain in. I've seen people mistakenly run the chain outside that tab without noticing.

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    Oh, and congrats on the new ride! hope it gets sorted out.... worst case bring it back to the shop on monday they should fix it free if you paid for the setup, unless its defective and you need a part.

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    Thanks for the advice ! I will try that as soon as I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kretz View Post
    Thanks for the advice ! I will try that as soon as I get home.
    I made the mistake of assuming its the rear... if its front it is even easier the cage is wide and easy to adjust. Same process with limit screws then its all about tension. Make sure the cable is hand tight, then crank the tensioner on the shifter until it shifts right/doesnt rub.

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    The Shimano HG31 cassette eliminated my slipping/skipping issues. I rode in some sand yesterday, and had some decent climbs today that tested it well. The trail we rode today was hillier than many other Long Island trails, with some sand, exposed roots, and some loose rocks adding to the fun. The Monster handles it all surprisingly well (I did notice the lack of front suspension in one or two spots, so my next fat bike will have a Bluto). The down side was when we got on the road to go to another trail. That's when the bike feels like I'm pedaling an 18-wheeler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kretz View Post
    Total newbie here who just got his bike yesterday !!!! Had a local shop finish the build ( I know, I know....it is my goal to become bike handy) anyway....on my first 500 yards pedaling I changed gears and the chain/derailer is now making a terrible sound as the chain is rubbing the derailer frame....wish I could send a vid.....hoping for advice on a quick fix so I can go for a NYE ride....the shop is closed until Monday. Thanks all
    CONTACT BD! I had a cassette problem with my bike, right out of the box. They not only took care of the part, they paid the LBS that fixed it!

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    New drive train is holding up well, except that I got some of the worst chain suck ever one of the first times I upshifted in the front. I think it was due to the fact that I'm using mismatched sprockets. I'm hoping it's just a one time thing, but I've still been careful when shifting.

    I also met my first Farley today. beautiful bikes, really.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Double-stick or bolt something to that E-type FD.

    Like the X-guys using the "Third-eye" chain keeper.
    There are a few models that will completely eliminate "chain-suck", (if installed correctly)

    We were taking off the granny gears in the mid 90's. MI doesn't have that big of hills.

    Now 1x10 or 2x10 is "all the rage"???
    I will leave the drivetrain "as-is" unless it gives me trouble.
    The front might need a little adj. but the rear der. was adjusted fine and shifts very well.

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    Double-stick or bolt something to that E-type FD.

    Like the X-guys using the "Third-eye" chain keeper.
    There are a few models that will completely eliminate "chain-suck", (if installed correctly)

    We were taking off the granny gears in the mid 90's. MI doesn't have that big of hills.

    Now 1x10 or 2x10 is "all the rage"???
    I will leave the drivetrain "as-is" unless it gives me trouble.
    The front might need a little adj. but the rear der. was adjusted fine and shifts very well.

    JM
    Yeah, the chain suck is a personal problem, not related to the stock bike in any way. It only happened once so far, if it happens again I will run a matching set of sprockets.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Thanks to JackNicholls6 - your recommendation was all it was. Very happy it wasn't anything I had to go to the shop for. My goal is too teach myself to be 'bike handy'. Had a great ride yesterday on both pavement and trail, GBM is a blast, we are getting 2-4 inches tomorrow so I am excited to try this on a little snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kretz View Post
    Thanks to JackNicholls6 - your recommendation was all it was. Very happy it wasn't anything I had to go to the shop for. My goal is too teach myself to be 'bike handy'. Had a great ride yesterday on both pavement and trail, GBM is a blast, we are getting 2-4 inches tomorrow so I am excited to try this on a little snow.
    Great news! Glad it was an easy fix.

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    Dirtdawg I had issues with chain suck with the stock chain rings. Try flipping the granny around the other way. Also is your big ring facing the right way? It's hard to tell in the picture. I also run mismatched rings now without any issues. And I added a 42t.

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    I just pulled the trigger on this bike, I called my brother to talk me off the ledge of punching the buy button, but it didn't work...............

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    You're gonna love it, Zeph. If you've read this whole thread, you already know what to expect. I've had mine about a month, and the more I ride it, the more I love it.
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    Drove down to ND yesterday (blizzard all the way from Winnipeg to ND) assembled the bike when I got home and tried it out in the fresh powder. No surprise the missions aren't great in the soft stuff. Been looking at snow tires, but other than the surly nates all other tires (45nrth, vee snowshoes) require a minimum rim width of 62-80mm. There was some posts on here of trying different rim widths and tires.
    So my question is, does anyone know if a 4" 45nrth dillinger or vee snowshoe 4.5" would work on the bullseye monster?

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    The frame I got, (Gravity Bullseye Monster???)
    Came with the 650B+ tires.
    I ordered the 26x4 w/"free" Missions for $200.00, 135/170 spacing and free shipping.
    Could not find weights on more expensive wheelsets.
    The tires don't seem great in the snow but I've only ridden 3 times.

    There is 1/2" (clear) on both side of the rear stays. Less in the front fork.
    Not sure on all the wheel width/tire width combos or how they affect OA widths?

    I am sure I could order some 4.5's if that is the total width on 26x80mm rims.
    Would double check front fork?


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    Gravity Bullseye Monster-image.jpgGravity Bullseye Monster-image.jpghonestly the most fun I've ever had on a bike! Dropped the tires to 7 psi. Handled fine!

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    Repackaged the hubs with extreme low temp grease, they spin way better now.-40 here today with the windchill! Rode to the creek down the road from me to test it in the snow, 5 psi and it goes pretty decent in the soft stuff. Im very impressed with this bike for the price...
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    Awesome! That's freezing! What cold gear do you wear for -40?

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    Long johns, cycling tights, snowboard pants, 2 pairs snowboard socks, under armour compression layer long sleeve and a snowboard jacket. Had a belaclava and neck wormer with snowboard goggles, snowmobile mitts and -45 hunting rubber boots. Haha. Thats all. Supposed to be a deep freeze for awhile Glad I got a fat bike it gets me outside. Or else I would be playing video games. I hate this weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    So my question is, does anyone know if a 4" 45nrth dillinger or vee snowshoe 4.5" would work on the bullseye monster?
    they will both work fine. ive put some serious miles on some of the older 4.5" snowshoes (in reality, closer to a 4.0) and they are awesome. as long as the tire is narrow enough to fit in between the stays youre good to go. the rim width changes the profile a bit (tire sits narrower and taller) but everything still handles fine. i would (and do) ignore the manufacturer's rim recommendations.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Thanks again for the advice Dirtdawg!

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    Thanks again for the advice Dirtdawg!
    Not a problem, i'm glad I could help.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    My On One Floaters have shipped from Portland. When they get here, I'm putting them on the Monster and putting the old Missions on my wife's Dolomite. Both are getting Qtubes Superlights. Should improve both bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbird99 View Post
    My On One Floaters have shipped from Portland. When they get here, I'm putting them on the Monster and putting the old Missions on my wife's Dolomite. Both are getting Qtubes Superlights. Should improve both bikes.
    The On One's....do they weigh a lot less than the factory Gravity.....actually? <smiles> What part is the Floater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
    I just pulled the trigger on this bike, I called my brother to talk me off the ledge of punching the buy button, but it didn't work...............
    Wait til it arrives, and you ride it for the first time.....YOU WILL BE THRILLED! WE (my husband too) LOVE Mine!Name:  DeronInPogies 2014-11-22.jpg
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    They are wicked bikes for the price. Im not dissapointed. I just put a pair of surly nates on last night. But I live in a harsh part of Canada where we get alot of snow and icy conditions.

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    You Know? You all need to stop saying "for the price" about this bicycle. It IS a nice bike! Just that. A great deal, and a great bike. <smiles>

    Has anyone ridden on Ice. Or snow covered Ice? How did that go for you?

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    All depends on you're ability as a rider. Lower psi helps. Im a light rider so im running 5 psi (could probably go a bit lower). I ride ice, snow and whatever else is out there. Studded tires would definitely help. If you have the time you can do it yourself.Or pay big bucks for a set.
    It is a nice bike. Like I said I already got a set of more aggressive tires. The stock ones are ok. All depends where you live and ride I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    They are wicked bikes for the price. Im not dissapointed. I just put a pair of surly nates on last night. But I live in a harsh part of Canada where we get alot of snow and icy conditions.
    when you get a chance you should post up some pix with the nates. I wanted a set, but got talked into going with the green floaters instead. I don't regret it, but the nates are very good tires.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Was trying to last night but it kept saying upload failed. Got em for $80 on kijiji. Someone took them off a new bike and upgraded. Also have a snowshoe coming next week. I will try to post again tonight. Just went for a good 3 mile through the forest. Very impressed with the traction.
    I like how this is turning into a gravity bullseye bike club all over the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    The On One's....do they weigh a lot less than the factory Gravity.....actually? <smiles> What part is the Floater?
    they are the tires. the green ones i have are floaters. they are not as light as the stock missions, but other than that they are superior in every way.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Just got mine in from Bike Island. Now I only have to wait for the new headset to be installed and the new crankset to arrive before I can take it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    The On One's....do they weigh a lot less than the factory Gravity.....actually? <smiles> What part is the Floater?
    I don't necessarily expect the Floaters to save me weight, but I've read that they are much better tires than the Vee Missions (I think at least two people here have mentioned that). My wife doesn't use her fatbike for trails and climbing -- she uses hers mostly as a cruiser, whereas mine has become my go-to bike -- so I figure I'll put the better tires on my bike (with lighter tubes), and upgrade her tires and include lighter tubes. Everyone wins. :-)

    </smiles>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    You Know? You all need to stop saying "for the price" about this bicycle. It IS a nice bike! Just that. A great deal, and a great bike. <smiles>
    Agreed. I love mine.
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    The nates. ..
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    The nates. ..
    That looks sweet! I like that Thompson too, what is the diameter?
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    I believe its 27.4 same as my kona and specialized. I have alot of spare parts laying around.

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    Sorry its 27.2 duh. I should remember it by now...

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    Gravity Bullseye Monster

    Went out for a ride tonight...


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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    I like the tires dude. What state do you live in?

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    New Hampshire. How about yourself? Wind chill to - 40 is no joke.
    As for the tires, I really like them. I was hesitant at first, but now I'm glad I got them.
    They do great in the snow. I may throw the stock missions and rims on to compare and remind myself what it's like (it's been a while, and never in snow).
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Oh cool. Is that close to the Appalachians? Saw the picture of the river you posted. Reminded me of a place on Vancouver Island. So beautiful.
    I live in Manitoba the south eastern part of the province, close to the Canadian shield and very close to North Dakota. Its exactly 12 hours to Deadwood South Dakota, I've timed it!
    It was -36 today!

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    Dumb question time. Are the stock tire (Missions) tubeless? My bike gets here Friday, one more long miserable day of waiting................

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    The nates. ..
    Did your fork come with anything cage mounts, or did you install them yourself?

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    Hey Zeph,

    Just got mine, it came with Tubeless ready Missions on it, and I have bottle mounts on my fork.

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    Hello Fellow Fatty Ridesr !!

    Just wanted to say Hello, just got my Green Monster, finally got it out for a sort ride, WOW, This is what i call FUN !!!!!. Getting a lot of great info from here and helped me get through the waiting for the bike to come !! Will post up some pics soon!!!!

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    To anyone with the Bullseye Monster,

    If you had a $600-$700 budget, would you still buy this bike? If not, what would your bike choice be in that range.

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    Those are fender/rack mounts on the fork. I would still buy the bike, I did have a bit more to spend. But I used some of the money I saved to buy new tires, wider bars and better pedals.
    the motobecane boris x5 looked decent. You get wider rims. But I wouldent pay more for any sram drivetrain. Im a shimano guy 100 percent if I have to replace a drivetrain. I have a deore one im swapping over soon. Sram = Taiwan Shimano deore and up = japan. Some ppl don't care about this.
    Just get the monster and use the money you save to buy a few parts. By the time I got my bike to Canada it cost me $800. You guys are lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Charles View Post
    To anyone with the Bullseye Monster,

    If you had a $600-$700 budget, would you still buy this bike? If not, what would your bike choice be in that range.


    I love my Bullseye but honestly... 700 is another 40% more money. So no, If i had 700 up front I would not buy the bullseye. By the time I'm done I may have 700 into it but that is spread out over time. And Yes Im still happy. but for 700, that pushes you into real bike territory. at 700 I would buy the framed Minnesota 1.0 no question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Charles View Post
    To anyone with the Bullseye Monster,

    If you had a $600-$700 budget, would you still buy this bike? If not, what would your bike choice be in that range.
    I would 100%, but I use this bike for everything.
    I read in your thread that you just want it for snow, and that the 50mm rims are a drawback rather than a benifit for you. I don't know much about the mongoose, but at a glance it looks like a very comperable bike. (Only thing I would look out for is weight, anybody know if there's a meaningful difference between the two?) For snow You will want to replace the tires on either bike, but the 100mm rims on the goose will give a lot of volume and be a benifit.
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    Dumb question time. Are the stock tire (Missions) tubeless? My bike gets here Friday, one more long miserable day of waiting................
    As previously stated, The vees are 'tubeless ready', but they are not set up tubeless. I haven't bothered, and probably won't in the future. I like the Ease of changing tires and don't have problems with pinch flats (on the fat bike )

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    Thanks for the reply brother. I think I may go find a vinson at the store and look at it before making a final decision.

    I also may just bite the bullet and add 200 to my budget and just getting a MN 1.0. I keep reading on here how great they are for the price. Love to hear your thoughts on that bike.
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    As previously stated, The vees are 'tubeless ready', but they are not set up tubeless. I haven't bothered, and probably won't in the future. I like the Ease of changing tires and don't have problems with pinch flats (on the fat bike )

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    Minnesotas are great too. I have a 3.0. Love it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Charles View Post
    Thanks for the reply brother. I think I may go find a vinson at the store and look at it before making a final decision.

    I also may just bite the bullet and add 200 to my budget and just getting a MN 1.0. I keep reading on here how great they are for the price. Love to hear your thoughts on that bike.
    I sold my Minneosta 2.0 last year and bought a Monster Pro this year. I like the Monster way better - although Bluto fork makes it an unfair comparison.

    I was not a fan of the short top tube and the gearing was way too tall on the Minnesota 2.0. Both could be remedied with part changes though. I think the 1.0 has different geometry which I preferred but is only a 1(33T)x9 which was deal breaker for me. I've got way to many steep hills to climb.

    The gearing is completely dependent on what you'll be riding, just keep it in mind or you'll have to budget for a new crank.

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    Oh. That's a good point about the gears. I will also be climbing hills.. So how do you like the monster pro?


    lol, after you've made that point, I'm now leaning back towards the monster (and just putting 80mm on it). Does having 4.5 tires make a huge / noticeable difference anyway? Or try to find a Mongoose Vinson on sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by LosPollos View Post
    I sold my Minneosta 2.0 last year and bought a Monster Pro this year. I like the Monster way better - although Bluto fork makes it an unfair comparison.

    I was not a fan of the short top tube and the gearing was way too tall on the Minnesota 2.0. Both could be remedied with part changes though. I think the 1.0 has different geometry which I preferred but is only a 1(33T)x9 which was deal breaker for me. I've got way to many steep hills to climb.

    The gearing is completely dependent on what you'll be riding, just keep it in mind or you'll have to budget for a new crank.

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    I love 1x setups. the 33front 34 rear combo is pretty easy. If you need an easier gear its simple to switch in a RaceFace narrow wide up front with 30T up front $30 bucks on amazon.

    The monster pro is a COMPLETELY different bike, the only thing it shares in the name. The frame and geo are way different. just look at the pictures, curved downtube. If you had a G to spend I'd reccomend it.

    I'm not saying dont get the monster. I love it! you probably would too! Im just saying that for what you want there seems to be better fitting bikes.

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    Here is what I'm currently working with lol. So, realistically any thing we have discussed so far will out perform this guy.

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    But, if you guys think the monster with 80mm is sufficent for hunting/scouting, then I may go ahead and order it! Gonna give it another day or two of pondering. If I can't find a better affordable solution by then, then the gravity monster it is!


    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    I love 1x setups. the 33front 34 rear combo is pretty easy. If you need an easier gear its simple to switch in a RaceFace narrow wide up front with 30T up front $30 bucks on amazon.

    The monster pro is a COMPLETELY different bike, the only thing it shares in the name. The frame and geo are way different. just look at the pictures, curved downtube. If you had a G to spend I'd reccomend it.

    I'm not saying dont get the monster. I love it! you probably would too! Im just saying that for what you want there seems to be better fitting bikes.

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    You will definitely see an improvement! I think 4" tires on 80mm wheels would be enough... And you'll have two sets at that point... At the 700 mark if you order the wheels from BD.

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    I was just out riding in another fresh snow fall, following a deer trail through the forest. I have 50mm rims with 4" surly nates. The 50mm rims really rounds the tire making it a bit squirmy and it realky had trouble going through 4" pockets of snow. And im only 140LBS with all my winter gear on. knowing that now I would get something with 80-100mm rims. That would give you a nice big stable footprint. Especially if your following animal trails and in an area that gets sufficient snow falls.
    just something to consider.

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    Yessir! I know 80mm rims work on this bike. But, I thought 100mm didn't. Anyone have 100mm on theirs that can attest to whether it works or not? If 100mm fits, then I'm sold on it and will order it today 💪👍🍻

    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    I was just out riding in another fresh snow fall, following a deer trail through the forest. I have 50mm rims with 4" surly nates. The 50mm rims really rounds the tire making it a bit squirmy and it realky had trouble going through 4" pockets of snow. And im only 140LBS with all my winter gear on. knowing that now I would get something with 80-100mm rims. That would give you a nice big stable footprint. Especially if your following animal trails and in an area that gets sufficient snow falls.
    just something to consider.

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    I believe there was a post near the beginning of a guy that tried 100mm rims. He said they don't fit. Would suck to order it all and find out it doesn't clear.

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    Berm, I did read that as well but then another person said 100mm fit.

    Was hoping someone who has tried it would chime in and give a "yay" or "nay"

    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    I believe there was a post near the beginning of a guy that tried 100mm rims. He said they don't fit. Would suck to order it all and find out it doesn't clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    I was just out riding in another fresh snow fall, following a deer trail through the forest. I have 50mm rims with 4" surly nates. The 50mm rims really rounds the tire making it a bit squirmy and it realky had trouble going through 4" pockets of snow. And im only 140LBS with all my winter gear on. knowing that now I would get something with 80-100mm rims. That would give you a nice big stable footprint. Especially if your following animal trails and in an area that gets sufficient snow falls.
    just something to consider.
    I would be a snow rider and this is why I haven't pulled the trigger on this bike yet. By the time you equip it with decent tires for snow and 80mm rims you now have a ~$1000 wrapped up into this bike. I can pick up a Minnesota 2.0 for less than that that already has 80mm rims and decent snow tires on it.

    The only downside I see on the Minnesota 2.0 is the taller gearing. But that can be remedied by spending $25 on 22T chainring.

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    Its true, some extra $ will need to be put into rims/tires. But, I'll only be at around $700 if I buy the BD 80mm set ($199 sale).

    So, ladies and gentleman, thanks for all your help. I have decided in the the Gravity Bullseye Monster! I'll be ordering tonight!

    For the price and great feedback from this thread, I see no reason to not at least try it. If I don't like it or want to upgrade, I can always sell or trade it later on.


    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    I would be a snow rider and this is why I haven't pulled the trigger on this bike yet. By the time you equip it with decent tires for snow and 80mm rims you now have a ~$1000 wrapped up into this bike. I can pick up a Minnesota 2.0 for less than that that already has 80mm rims and decent snow tires on it.

    The only downside I see on the Minnesota 2.0 is the taller gearing. But that can be remedied by spending $25 on 22T chainring.

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    U said it. But remember a $1000 bike in America is alot more in Canada. I refuse to pay anymore than I did for a bike with bike tires. Fat bikes are still a fad. I've just built a top of the line bike, full xt drive train, xt brakes, hope and blackspire parts, sid fork, pretty much every bad ass part out there and its got full suspension (29er)for under 2000 canadian. Chain reaction is boss.
    Expensive fat bikes are a rip off compared to something that's actually loaded with technology. I wont be riding mine in the summer. I fly by guys on fat bikes on the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Charles View Post
    Its true, some extra $ will need to be put into rims/tires. But, I'll only be at around $700 if I buy the BD 80mm set ($199 sale).
    Yeah, but those still come with crappy tires. For me another $200-$250 would have to be spent for tires that are good in the snow and I would be up to a ~$1000 for the Gravity Monster Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    U said it. But remember a $1000 bike in America is alot more in Canada. I refuse to pay anymore than I did for a bike with bike tires. Fat bikes are still a fad. I've just built a top of the line bike, full xt drive train, xt brakes, hope and blackspire parts, sid fork, pretty much every bad ass part out there and its got full suspension (29er)for under 2000 canadian. Chain reaction is boss.
    Expensive fat bikes are a rip off compared to something that's actually loaded with technology. I wont be riding mine in the summer. I fly by guys on fat bikes on the trails.
    That's the problem right now. Supply and demand Big demand and low supply of fat bikes are keeping the prices high. I expect fat bikes will come down in price over the next 2-5 years.

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    Me too. And that's when I 'll shell out some real coin. I like some of the american made frames. Thats what I 'll buy. Support our economy. Even some of the $3000 bikes I looked at were china frames. Thats why I got a monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    Fat bikes are still a fad.
    Wow, I thought this type of thinking was long gone. Fat bikes ARE NOT A FAD. They are hear to stay and only growing. That is why the fat bike market is the fastest growing cycling segment for the past 2 years.
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    Im sorry to have offended you. I will use more appropriate wording next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    Im sorry to have offended you. I will use more appropriate wording next time.
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    14" or 16"?

    I'm 5'6 but have short legs and a long torso. 14" or 16"?

    Looking at their size chart, I'm thinking 14". But that sounds really small.

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    I'm 5'6 but have short legs and a long torso. 14" or 16"?

    Looking at their size chart, I'm thinking 14". But that sounds really small.
    Im the same size with similar proportions and I think a 16 would be a good fit. (got an 18 myself, and I think a bit smaller would have been a better choice) I have ridden 14s before (not this specific bike though) and they are fun to tool around on, but a bit cramped on longer rides.
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    First snow ride

    Took the Bullseye out today for its first snow ride. Just a 3 inch fluffy dusting. It was a blast, traction held great on the stock missions. Can't wait to make a few changes to drop a little weight on the bike. Gravity Bullseye Monster-bike.jpg

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    I just ordered my black 18" monster!! I'm very excited. Wanted to say thanks to everyone who participates in this thread! You really helped me with my choice to go with this bike.

    Anyone know of any good deals on 80mm rims?

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    congrats Andrew! best deal I've seen is the one on bikes direct 199.99 free shipping, includes tires! great deal. havent been able to pull the trigger yet myself but many have.

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    100mm rims by themselves fit, but with tires they make the tires too big at the sidewalls so they dont clear the frame. there is plenty of room in the stock fork to fit bigger rim plus with 4"+ size tires. although i doubt itd clear 4.8 or 5" tires .

    since a lot of people are talking about updating the wheels. when i bought mine, right the way i removed all of the parts. so they are new take off condition. sold the brakes with rotor levers for 85. sold the wheelset with tires for 250, i still have the entire drivetrain bars. and such to sell. all the money can be used toward to upgrade parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    100mm rims by themselves fit, but with tires they make the tires too big at the sidewalls so they dont clear the frame. there is plenty of room in the stock fork to fit bigger rim plus with 4"+ size tires. although i doubt itd clear 4.8 or 5" tires .

    since a lot of people are talking about updating the wheels. when i bought mine, right the way i removed all of the parts. so they are new take off condition. sold the brakes with rotor levers for 85. sold the wheelset with tires for 250, i still have the entire drivetrain bars. and such to sell. all the money can be used toward to upgrade parts
    Really good info coke, thanks!
    What did you end up replacing it with? You should put up some pix of the finished bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbird99 View Post
    My On One Floaters have shipped from Portland. When they get here, I'm putting them on the Monster and putting the old Missions on my wife's Dolomite. Both are getting Qtubes Superlights. Should improve both bikes.
    I just swapped out the Vee8's to Floaters. OMG the difference in the snow is phenomenal!! The price for this much tire performance for is hard to beat.

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    Got this bad boy built up but, of course, two problems

    1) In trying to put on my BB7 rotors, three of the T25 bolts were VERY stuck and I mean VERY stuck. I tried heating them, nothing. I even tried grind in slots in the heads and using a flathead. Nothing. This last one always works as a last resort. Finally, I had to take a grinder and drill bit to the heads. I ended up getting the rotor off and the bolts out but got a bit frustrated and over eager with the drill and went through to the hub, enlarging the top of one of the holes. I got the screw threaded properly with loctite for the new rotor so methinks it's not a HUGE issue, but still... Those should not have been that tight! I emailed BD about it and they said they'd said me a new rotor. I guess that's nice of them? I guess gouging the hub was my own fault so I don't know what more I want really.

    2) I'll try and get a pic up later, but my front wheel isn't centered in the fork. The fork is a Fatback steel. The brake rotor seems to line up fine so I'm thinking this isn't really an issue. Is anyone else's front wheel not centered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    Im the same size with similar proportions and I think a 16 would be a good fit. (got an 18 myself, and I think a bit smaller would have been a better choice) I have ridden 14s before (not this specific bike though) and they are fun to tool around on, but a bit cramped on longer rides.
    Thanks for the feedback Dawg. I just pulled the trigger on the 16" in WR green. Got a set of floaters in pink, as well as some pink ODI lock on grips on the way as well---which ought to be a nice contrast to the green. I'll post up when she's built.

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    It was pathetic, as far as snowfalls go, but I finally got some of the white stuff on my Monster's tires.

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    Jack,

    Thanks man, can't believe I didn't seee this deal before! I'm going to jump on it! Although, I think after I get it I'll put the missions on the 80mm since it seems like it has more traction.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    congrats Andrew! best deal I've seen is the one on bikes direct 199.99 free shipping, includes tires! great deal. havent been able to pull the trigger yet myself but many have.

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    I can't wait for mine to get here!

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    It was pathetic, as far as snowfalls go, but I finally got some of the white stuff on my Monster's tires.

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    You're gonna love it, Andrew. I have tweaked mine to my tastes, and it is nearly perfect for me now. My other bikes are collecting dust. I keep thinking that I should ride my 26er, just for comparison, but when it comes time to ride, I eagerly load up the Monster.
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    Bob,

    Your post makes me certain I've made the right choice! I can't wait for my bike to arrive.

    For everyone who is riding the monster as their main ride, what mods have you made that are the "necessities". I am a realist and know that for $500, some things will need to be changed.

    I'd love to hear from yall and see exactly what you think is important to change, in your opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbird99 View Post
    You're gonna love it, Andrew. I have tweaked mine to my tastes, and it is nearly perfect for me now. My other bikes are collecting dust. I keep thinking that I should ride my 26er, just for comparison, but when it comes time to ride, I eagerly load up the Monster.

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    I got mine after work, and for general info it only takes 1 1/2 Tall Coors to put it together and get everything adjusted. I'm about 5' 10", and I got the 18" frame, the 16" may have been a little better as far as clearance for the baby-maker go's. But this one will work fine. 17 year old vasectomy, so I guess I'm good to go anyway................

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    Andrew,

    Mine had shifting issues. Crappy cassette. Some guys here called BD and received a better one, free of charge. I ordered one from Amazon for about $15 (solved my shifting issues). I installed Ergon grips/bar ends because of decades-old wrist issues. I added storage (top tube bag that has a clear top for my smartphone, and a seatpost rack and bag), fenders (SKS frame-mounted dirt board and a Topeak fender mounted on my rear rack), and larger, low-profile platform pedals. I was using a handlebar bag, but didn't like the way it affected handling. I'm waiting on OnOne floaters and QTubes superlight tubes. And I just ordered a Wisecrackers bottle opener. I'll probably order the 80mm wheelsets from BD at some point. For $500, this is a heck of bike, and it leaves $$ for personalization. That's an equation for fun.
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    Awesome rundown! thanks!

    anyine else make any big changes?


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    Andrew,

    Mine had shifting issues. Crappy cassette. Some guys here called BD and received a better one, free of charge. I ordered one from Amazon for about $15 (solved my shifting issues). I installed Ergon grips/bar ends because of decades-old wrist issues. I added storage (top tube bag that has a clear top for my smartphone, and a seatpost rack and bag), fenders (SKS frame-mounted dirt board and a Topeak fender mounted on my rear rack), and larger, low-profile platform pedals. I was using a handlebar bag, but didn't like the way it affected handling. I'm waiting on OnOne floaters and QTubes superlight tubes. And I just ordered a Wisecrackers bottle opener. I'll probably order the 80mm wheelsets from BD at some point. For $500, this is a heck of bike, and it leaves $$ for personalization. That's an equation for fun.

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    Anyone know how hard it would be to get the "gravity" logo off the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosPollos View Post
    I just swapped out the Vee8's to Floaters. OMG the difference in the snow is phenomenal!! The price for this much tire performance for is hard to beat.
    Yeah, no doubt that the floaters are an awesome tire. I'm keeping the Vee's for a summer tire, the do really well in the dirt without as much rolling resistance.
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    Aw, what the heck, I just ordered a 20" BM in silver.

    Hmm, maybe I shouldn't refer to it as a "BM"... Anyway, dipping my toe in the fatbike world, curious how I'll get along with the wide Q factor, heavy wheels, etc.

    Let the waiting commence!
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    Aw, what the heck, I just ordered a 20" BM in silver.

    Hmm, maybe I shouldn't refer to it as a "BM"...

    Let the waiting commence!
    A 20" BM? Sounds like you're having a pretty good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC_Bunkster View Post
    Thanks for the feedback Dawg. I just pulled the trigger on the 16" in WR green. Got a set of floaters in pink, as well as some pink ODI lock on grips on the way as well---which ought to be a nice contrast to the green. I'll post up when she's built.
    Please do! I thought about getting the pinks because when I was tire shopping they were 50% off, but I couldn't turn down the greens. I don't regret it, but I would love to see what it would have looked like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by porkloin View Post
    Stumpy, got my 80mm rims in yesterday and snapped a couple photos. The increase in surface area from the 3.8"/4.0" tires was pretty astounding. The tires look and feel quite a bit beefier on the wider rims. Took it out on the trails today into some deep snow and felt a little bit more floaty.

    As far as the 100mm/80mm combo goes, I think it's possible. Here's my front fork with a Bontrager Hodag and an 80mm rim:
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    As you can see, there's still quite a bit of clearance there, so I don't doubt that you would be able to bump up to a 100mm. Alternatively, you might be able to run a 4.5/4.8 tire on a 80mm rim.

    In the rear, however, it's a totally different story. As akacoke said way earlier in the thread, 80mm with a 3.8 is just about the maximum for the rear. With mine I get chain rub on the tire in the double granny (lowest rear and lowest front), as you can see in this picture:

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    I don't mind too much, since the next gear on the rear clears just fine, and I haven't ever used the double granny on this bike since I bought it. Your mileage might vary with other tires though, since the Nate has some pretty burly side knobs.
    This is a great report Porkloin. Can't believe I missed it before! Well, that answers my question for sure then. 80mm with 4.0 is the limit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Charles View Post
    Anyone know how hard it would be to get the "gravity" logo off the bike?
    It will be a LOT easier to "add graphics", than remove the sticker. (it's not a sticker)
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    WHY NO SALE TO AUS BD?!! All this northern hemisphere fat bike talk is making me jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    congrats Andrew! best deal I've seen is the one on bikes direct 199.99 free shipping, includes tires! great deal. havent been able to pull the trigger yet myself but many have.
    It would be nice if BD sold the wheels without the tires on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    It would be nice if BD sold the wheels without the tires on them.
    No doubt. But considering the price, the tires are pretty much free anyway.
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    No doubt. But considering the price, the tires are pretty much free anyway.
    True dat. And this way you have a sweet set of summer tires so you can save your good ones for when you really need the traction

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    Better yet, BD should offer the 80mm rim set on the Gravity Bullseye Monster instead of the 50mm. How much more would it actually increase the price of the bike from a 50mm to 80mm rim?

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    My guess is they spec the narrower rims to get people to upgrade to the next bike up as much as to save money on this model.

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    Better yet, BD should offer the 80mm rim set on the Gravity Bullseye Monster instead of the 50mm. How much more would it actually increase the price of the bike from a 50mm to 80mm rim?
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    My guess is they spec the narrower rims to get people to upgrade to the next bike up as much as to save money on this model.
    YUP! And it's very smart. The 50mm rims almost deterred me from buying the bike. But, ultimately I pulled the trigger and am now just on standby until I get the bike tomorrow night. Still wondering if the Vinson is a better value but hey, only time will tell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Better yet, BD should offer the 80mm rim set on the Gravity Bullseye Monster instead of the 50mm. How much more would it actually increase the price of the bike from a 50mm to 80mm rim?
    It wouldn't increase the price significantly, but it would make the bike a lot less versatile. The 50mm rim was actually a selling point for me, as it makes it possible to run the bike as a 26+. In my opinion, The 50's also make the bike a lot more fun as a trail bike in the summer without making it any less capable in the snow.
    If it's really that important to you, The lower spec boris comes with 80's and isn't much more expensive. Just something to think about.
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    Dirtdawg, what do ya mean by 26+? Sorry for the question but, I'm still learning


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    in short it's a term coined by surley for wheels that are wider than a conventional bike, but not quite a fat bike.
    50mm rims allow you to run normal 26" tires, so if you don't need the additional float and weight, this bike can double as a rigid mountain bike. i road it with some 2.5" downhill tires for about 100 miles and it was a totally different bike. really quick handling and a lot less cumbersome. i like having options.
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    in fact, the whole point of getting the second wheelset was to free up the 50's so that i could run studs, and then swap out the wheels depending on the trail conditions.
    i havent needed the studs yet so i never brought it up.
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    in fact, the whole point of getting the second wheelset was to free up the 50's so that i could run studs, and then swap out the wheels depending on the trail conditions.
    i havent needed the studs yet so i never brought it up.
    Oh sweet! Well, I have the second 80mm wheelset headed my way so, looks like I'll have to get some thinner road tires for the 50mm. Great idea bro.

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    Oh sweet! Well, I have the second 80mm wheelset headed my way so, looks like I'll have to get some thinner road tires for the 50mm. Great idea bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    My guess is they spec the narrower rims to get people to upgrade to the next bike up as much as to save money on this model.
    I made some contact with BD yesterday regarding this issue. They stated that Gravity wanted the price point to be at $500.

    I then asked how much it would cost to offer the bike with with 80mm rims and mission tires and they said the bike would be $100 more than it is now. I then suggested they offer the bike with that option and call it Gravity Bullseye Monster Pro WT or something like that. They responded and said that they would take that idea into consideration.

    IMO, This would be better than buying the bike for $500 and then paying the $200 for the 80mm wheelset they sell. A person would be ahead $100 with this option and not have to deal with selling the mission tires to put on something better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    I made some contact with BD yesterday regarding this issue. They stated that Gravity wanted the price point to be at $500.

    I then asked how much it would cost to offer the bike with with 80mm rims and mission tires and they said the bike would be $100 more than it is now. I then suggested they offer the bike with that option and call it Gravity Bullseye Monster Pro WT or something like that. They responded and said that they would take that idea into consideration.

    IMO, This would be better than buying the bike for $500 and then paying the $200 for the 80mm wheelset they sell. A person would be ahead $100 with this option and not have to deal with selling the mission tires to put on something better.
    They already have a bike like that, its called the boris x5.
    if you guys are so bent on 80mm rims, i have a spare set complete with spokes and nips that you can have for $100. should lace right up to your stock wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    They already have a bike like that, its called the boris x5.
    if you guys are so bent on 80mm rims, i have a spare set complete with spokes and nips that you can have for $100. should lace right up to your stock wheels.
    IMO the boris is ugly and the geometry is different. It wouldn't hurt to have a cheaper gravity option with 80mm rims for those of us that are considering the bike for snow use.

    Snow type tires installed on the 50mm rim don't work as good as when installed on a 80-100mm rim, from what I am understanding, due to the tires being rounded out more instead of a flatter foot print.

    The fact that you have 80mm rims for sale only addresses the need of one person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    IMO the boris is ugly and the geometry is different. It wouldn't hurt to have a cheaper gravity option with 80mm rims for those of us that are considering the bike for snow use.

    Snow type tires installed on the 50mm rim don't work as good as when installed on a 80-100mm rim, from what I am understanding, due to the tires being rounded out more instead of a flatter foot print.

    The fact that you have 80mm rims for sale only addresses the need of one person.
    the point you bring up are all true. i guess i'm just getting frustrated by all the "different" models that bikes direct offers now. they are completely redundant and cluttered, and there is getting to be a lot of overlap. In my opinion, they should offer the frame as a model, and then have the different builds as subsets listed on a separate page. obviously, the nature of what they do prohibits too much customization, but it would be nice if they organized it a bit, because as it is now that page is a mess.
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    the point you bring up are all true. i guess i'm just getting frustrated by all the "different" models that bikes direct offers now. they are completely redundant and cluttered, and there is getting to be a lot of overlap. In my opinion, they should offer the frame as a model, and then have the different builds as subsets listed on a separate page. obviously, the nature of what they do prohibits too much customization, but it would be nice if they organized it a bit, because as it is now that page is a mess.
    I agree. That website is a mess and a complete eye sore. None of the listed geometry specs or standard specs between the different bikes is listed the same. It lacks consistency.

    Its the only website I visit where I actually have to use the horizontal scroll bar to see the bikes that run off the right side of the page. Ha ha ha...

    Cheap bikes...cheap website I guess. I think a 10 year old kid could design a better website.

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    Somthing is missing here..........oh wait, it's the bike that never showed up tonight. Shipment got pushed to tomorrow

    the 80mm wheel set did show up on time however! Have to say, this is a nice combo for $199!




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    I guess 1 extra day isn't too bad!


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    Finally here! Initial inpressions are: fit and finish are amazing for a $500 bike! Very very impressed so far. More input tomorrow after I put it together and tune it


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    Got mine as well. I got home late tonight, so it's still only partially unwrapped.
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    You'll have a blast on it. I'm digging mine.

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    Quick ride up and down the street, and I'll have to agree with both the above posters: fit and finish is surprisingly good, and it looks like fun. The Mission tire's self steer, though... now I see what folks are talking about.

    Also, a very quick check indicates that it should fit a 29x3" Knard. Good times ahead.
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    When yall received yours, was the seat stuck between the frame and the spokes? I think my brake rotor may have been bent by the seat.

    Edit: rotors turned out to be just fine.
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    Looks like this front wheel is very wobbly? the tire is being a pain in the butt and not wanting to seat correctly. May head to the shop tomorrow to make sure the wheel is aligned correctly also.

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    Cool thread bro, I bought a Gravity Monster Bullseye a few weeks ago. I got a green one as well. Best $500 I've spent to date. What I thought was going to be a novelty bike for snow turns out to be a rock garden killer. Haven't ridden my Trek GS 29'er since.

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    Looks awesome dirtdawg. Got my up and running and absolutely love it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarDude View Post
    Cool thread bro, I bought a Gravity Monster Bullseye a few weeks ago. I got a green one as well. Best $500 I've spent to date. What I thought was going to be a novelty bike for snow turns out to be a rock garden killer. Haven't ridden my Trek GS 29'er since.
    Thanks man! glad you like it. i'm with you on the value proposition, it is a lot of bike. i love mine in the tech too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    Looks awesome dirtdawg. Got my up and running and absolutely love it.


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    Thanks! glad youre having fun with it
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    Got another good snow ride in. Now that the breaks are beaded in I dont really see the need to swap in my BB7's. In the we stuff the front did wash out some. The answer was just to go faster and trust your skills. It's amazing how beautiful the woods are in the snow! I find that I never get off the big ring in the front. Thinking of ditching the front mech and going with a narrow wide chain ring.

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    Jack, looks awesome!! I got a chance to ride today as well. Really lovin the Great Plains and this bike!

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    Haven't been in here much as I have the deadeye (same bike but ss) dawg did you get 80mm rims? If so did you put 100 mm hub on it? Did an 80 fit in the rear? I think the rear stays are wider on the bullseye but i know i dont have any more clearance in the back. I have the floaters and q tubes on mine which was a major upgrade. I have been curious about an 80mm rim up front though

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    I finally got the monster out in a little snow last Sunday, on a new trail, nonetheless. The trail had a lot of short climbs and descents (for a Long Island trail), with leaves under the snow. I left the pressures at about 11psi. It really is a fun bike.

    I'm having some rear derailleur noise and some shifting issues -- probably cable stretching. I plan on setting up the bike stand in the living room to work on the derailleur and mount the new Floaters and tubes this weekend. I'll probably grease the hubs, too.


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    Great pictures bugout! Makes the plains look fun!!

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    Great pictures bugout! Makes the plains look fun!!
    Thanks brother!


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    Are those snowshoes? I know a guy that wants to sell me his 4.5s for a hundred is it worth it? Do they fit?

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    Jack, was that question for me? If so, I don't believe many tires wider than 4.0 will fit on the bike. 80mm seems to be a bout the limit for rim size


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    Understood, just looks like big snowshoes in the photo

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    My brakes are great after getting some miles on them and jumping on them pretty good to seat them, The rear derail isn't the best, but I got it adjusted so it works well enough to use til' I break it and replace it with something better. I am really liking this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    Are those snowshoes? I know a guy that wants to sell me his 4.5s for a hundred is it worth it? Do they fit?
    Yes, its a good deal and they fit fine. Personally I would hop on it.

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    4.5s fit? Sorry, jack. Gave ya some bad info. Looks like I need to order a set for myself as well. 👍


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    Haven't been in here much as I have the deadeye (same bike but ss) dawg did you get 80mm rims? If so did you put 100 mm hub on it? Did an 80 fit in the rear? I think the rear stays are wider on the bullseye but i know i dont have any more clearance in the back. I have the floaters and q tubes on mine which was a major upgrade. I have been curious about an 80mm rim up front though
    My 80s are working out great. These bikes have a 135/170 spacing, so for me there was no hub swapping needed. How much clearence do you have with your current setup? I can measure the floaters on an 80 vs 50mm rim and see if your bike can accomidate the wider rims.

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    Ok, I've been getting some questions about weather or not normal mtb tires will work on the 50mm rims. I have had great luck running 2.5's, but "normal" tires to me are in the 2.1 ballpark. There's no reason that it shouldn't work, but just to put my mind at ease I figured I would go ahead and try it.

    This is a 2.1 tire on a normal rim.



    And this is it on the 50mm

    Looks pretty sweet.
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    4.5s fit? Sorry, jack. Gave ya some bad info. Looks like I need to order a set for myself as well. 👍


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    Yes, on the stock 50's the snowshoes fit fine. to be honest they run closer to a 4.0, but they are still a very decent tire. I think I had some pictures of mine wearing them earlier on in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeered1 View Post
    Dirtdawg, great job on the no non-sense write-ups. You're really putting this bike thru the wringer. I don't own a fatbike yet but def like the snow/sand capabilities. Two questions if you can:
    1. In performance, what's your foresight on pros vs cons of adding a Bluto fork besides the extra weight and squish?
    2. What's your take on the bikes handling with a slightly steeper headangle compared to your girlfriends fatbike?

    I'd appreciate your input.
    Sorry for the late response, but with the short stem I find the handling preferable to that of the pug. Personally the bluto is not a priority because with this bike I'm looking for simplicity and low maintenance*, but they do improve the ride substantially when riding rough terrain at higher speeds.

    *I have a couple full suspension bikes already and I don't really want another fork to service.
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    The deadeye has regular hub spacing. 100/135 which was actually appealing to me so I could throw my spare 29ers on with hybrids if I want to tool around town with family. I would have to either get 80s laced to 100 qr hub or get a different fork and get a regular front 80 mm on 135hub.

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    That's a 4mm Allen key

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    That's a 4mm Allen key
    How wide is the tire in this pic?

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    It's 4.0 floater

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    That's a 4mm Allen key
    Yeah I don't think it would clear on an 80. The floater on the 50 should be a pretty good setup though, I ran it for a while and liked it.

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    Oh definitely not. rear clearance is at its max. The front has room but those 100 mm hub are limited. One of the reasons I went dem over bem was just to keep the cost down. Right now I've upgraded to floaters and lite tubes and put on some bars, stems, and speed dial levers I had laying around and the bike is a blast. There is plenty of float on the 50mm rims with the floaters. If I really start riding it Alot I could see deore hydros going on. The only other upgrade would be getting a lighter fork and front wheel so it would be fatter lighter front. I don't see that happening or at least not in the near future as I'm happy with it and not looking to put money into it. I like popping into this thread though and checking out the bullseye escapades

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    Gettin a set of Surly Rolling Darryl 82mm rims today. Lacing them up this week. See if I can fit a 4.5 snowshoe or 4" nates after.

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    Did a sweet 19mi ride today. Bike held up great! I'm at 60mi on the bike total now and have to say this is a great bike for such a small investment.

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    Please do! I thought about getting the pinks because when I was tire shopping they were 50% off, but I couldn't turn down the greens. I don't regret it, but I would love to see what it would have looked like!
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    I was going to try and keep this bike stock until stuff wore out, but I wasn't happy with the cockpit. I raided my other bikes and parts bin for a new pedals, stem, wider bar, and narrower saddle:




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    Ok everyone. It's upgrades time. I have $200 and looking to shed some weight.

    Current upgrades:

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    I'd like to try to get this bike as light as possible. Any suggestions for upgrades?

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    carbon bars, stem.....carbon fork ......seat and seat post.....crank set/bb
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    Ok everyone. It's upgrades time. I have $200 and looking to shed some weight.

    Current upgrades:

    80mm rims
    vee8 tires
    q-tubes
    shimano hg31 cassette
    Lighter platform pedals

    I'd like to try to get this bike as light as possible. Any suggestions for upgrades?
    I'm a big supporter of the "just ride the bike and you'll lose more weight than you'll ever lose throwing money at it" approach. You'd be surprised how easy it is to drop 10 pounds at a cost of $0.00 compared to the fatty riding the fatty spending $2k on carbon wheels.

    Invest the $200 in some Apple stock.

    Note: I am by no means implying that you are a fatty

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    Lospollos, I run 30 miles a week and bike at least 20. I am always striving to be at my optimal weight. Your suggestion is great and I absolutely agree. But, I'm also looking to shed weight from the bike and was hoping for suggestions


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    Quote Originally Posted by LosPollos View Post
    I'm a big supporter of the "just ride the bike and you'll lose more weight than you'll ever lose throwing money at it" approach. You'd be surprised how easy it is to drop 10 pounds at a cost of $0.00 compared to the fatty riding the fatty spending $2k on carbon wheels.

    Invest the $200 in some Apple stock.

    Note: I am by no means implying that you are a fatty
    Bingo. Unless a guy is racing, I don't get the save 4 grams thing........These are pretty good bikes from the get go, A "performance" Fat bike is kind of an oxi-moron to me. LET'S RIDE CHICAS!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    Lospollos, I run 30 miles a week and bike at least 20. I am always striving to be at my optimal weight. Your suggestion is great and I absolutely agree. But, I'm also looking to shed weight from the bike and was hoping for suggestions


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    In that case: Focus on the wheels to get the rotating mass down. That will be the best & most noticeble change while riding. Why not go tubeless? For about $60, the Vee8s are easy setup using the split tube method.

    I own the Vee8s, they are not that light. Wait to buy a set of Kenda Juggernauts 120 tpi (whenever they come out) to save almost 300grams/wheel.

    Lastly, if you are a fit guy, your plasma is probably worth some bucks. Go donate some plasma to get another $100 into your budget and get a carbon fork for $250-$300.

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    Zeph, Lol. I understand what you guys are saying. But, like I said, I am an athlete and there's not much more weight to be shed. So, for fun, I'm going to see how light I can make this bike. Right now I have $200 and I was really hoping g to hear what other would get to lighten weight with that budget


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    Quote Originally Posted by LosPollos View Post
    In that case: Focus on the wheels to get the rotating mass down. That will be the best & most noticeble change while riding. Why not go tubeless? For about $60, the Vee8s are easy setup using the split tube method.

    I own the Vee8s, they are not that light. Wait to buy a set of Kenda Juggernauts 120 tpi (whenever they come out) to save almost 300grams/wheel.

    Lastly, if you are a fit guy, your plasma is probably worth some bucks. Go donate some plasma to get another $100 into your budget and get a carbon fork for $250-$300.
    Sweet. How much weight can a carbon fork save?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    Zeph, Lol. I understand what you guys are saying. But, like I said, I am an athlete and there's not much more weight to be shed. So, for fun, I'm going to see how light I can make this bike. Right now I have $200 and I was really hoping g to hear what other would get to lighten weight with that budget


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    Sweet. How much weight can a carbon fork save?


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    I don't know the spec'ed weight of the Gravity Monster fork, but since it's steel it's probably around 1000-1200 grams compared to other steel forks that have published weights.

    Compared to a carbon fork that is 600-700 grams, depending on which one you go with. For example, the Carver O'Beast carbon fork is 570 grams @ $300. That is probably half the weight of your current fork.

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    For anyone wondering. With the BD 80mm wheelset with vee8s, the bike is right at 35lbs (I made my own rim strips so weight may be +/- .10-.20 or so). Also, this is with aftermarket pedals.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    For anyone wondering. With the BD 80mm wheelset with vee8s, the bike is right at 35lbs (I made my own rim strips so weight may be +/- .10-.20 or so). Also, this is with aftermarket pedals.




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    thanks for weighing it, its good to finally get some numbers.
    as others have pointed out, the most noticeable savings will be the rotating mass in the wheels. Q-tubes are an easy way to save a pound between the wheels. when i swapped my brakes i noticed that the novela calipers are pretty heavy. not gona save a ton of weight there, but i thought it was noteworthy. the drivetrain (specifically the cassette) is fairly hefty, and upgrading it might help lighten it a bit. the wheels are pretty heavy too, but $200 won't be enough to do anything about it. for me a bike at this pricepoint is what it is, and i personally havent taken any actions to try to lighten anything. these are just my observations after working on it.
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    I can't help with Bugout's questions, but I do want to give some thoughts on my bike, as I keep putting more miles on it...

    Yesterday, I rode in the rain on icy, rutted singletrack. While my wife and friend wiped out multiple times on their 29ers and ended up battered and bruised, the Monster rolled over everything, even at 10psi. I love this thing. It made me look better than I really am.

    Today, I rode my 2005 Jamis Exile 26er for the first time since getting the Monster over a month ago. I did a little single track and a little doubletrack, but the rain and thawing left the trails in bad shape (and my wife is still in pain from yesterday), so we ended up on pavement for most of the time. The Jamis is lighter, faster, and handles quicker, but is somehow not as much fun. Two things really stood out: 1. I forgot what it's like to spin the rear wheel climbing. My Monster has never done that. Today, I did it several times, and 2. the X7-equipped Jamis shifts much better. I have the Monster on the bike stand in the living room and I'm going to work on the rear derailleur while I change the tires and tubes and grease the hubs this week.

    I came across three guys getting ready to go riding, and one of them had a black Monster -- a smaller frame than mine. He was raving about his, too (which looked stock). Has anyone heard of anyone who bought one of these and didn't think it was a great bike, especially for the $$?
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    Installed 82 mm surly rims. 4. 5 snowshoe on rear, removed 7 th gear and put a spacer behind cassette.
    No chain rub in small front ring at all, or in first on rear after spacer install.

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    Got out to Buffalo Creek yesterday, this thing is a beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twentyniner29 View Post
    I love riding my monster, but just wondering how this bike actually compares to say Fatboy, Pugsley, or any other middle to high end bike. Does anyone have experience with these other models? I'm starting to wonder if I need to upgrade already. Thanks in advance

    I know that there are a few people in my community that have Gravity fat bikes, but most of us have Fat Boys, Beargreases, Mukluks, a Borealis, or in my case a Pugsley. I happened to be picking up a bike from the LBS while a Monster SS was being worked on and took a minute to ask how it rode. Sounded not that good.

    Way heavier than a my geared Pug Ops. And the brakes were crap. Old Tektro brakes that were one step up from a model that were recalled. Handlebars were uber heavy as well. Autosteer seemed pretty plausible and the tires themselves did not look to have a 4 inch width.

    Overall, I still find this bike intriguing as a project, kind of like how people buy a Dolomite to see how much they can improve on it. But eventually, I feel like I would get tired of spending money and/or hitting up BD about failing parts (like the rear cassette, bent derailleur, bent fork. And I fear something would eventually fail that would cost more than the entire bike to replace.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbird99 View Post
    Has anyone heard of anyone who bought one of these and didn't think it was a great bike, especially for the $$?
    Nope.
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    ok, so i'm having a problem that isn't really related to the bike, but i guess i will throw it up anyway just to maintain the completeness of my bike's ride log.
    I have probably 50 miles on my green floaters now, and after a pretty hard ride saturday, it seems that both tires are developing lumps. about 2/3 through the ride i noticed the front tire had a huge wobble. upon closer examination the tire was still seated pretty straight but i had knocked the rim out of alignment slightly, however nothing even close to how bad the irregularities in tire were. checked the rear and it was doing it too. by the end of the ride the rear tire was so bad that it was rubbing the stays on the non-drive side.

    So after getting the tires off to take a closer look at them, it appears that my casings are junk. .
    I hope on one will make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    ok, so i'm having a problem that isn't really related to the bike, but i guess i will throw it up anyway just to maintain the completeness of my bike's ride log.
    I have probably 50 miles on my green floaters now, and after a pretty hard ride saturday, it seems that both tires are developing lumps. about 2/3 through the ride i noticed the front tire had a huge wobble. upon closer examination the tire was still seated pretty straight but i had knocked the rim out of alignment slightly, however nothing even close to how bad the irregularities in tire were. checked the rear and it was doing it too. by the end of the ride the rear tire was so bad that it was rubbing the stays on the non-drive side.

    So after getting the tires off to take a closer look at them, it appears that my casings are junk. .
    I hope on one will make it right.
    Hey dirtdawg,

    Not showing the same wear as in this thread, but if you're running your pressure low, like real low, the sidewalls will go quicker than the rest of your tire.

    https://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/on...ar-891942.html

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    yeah thanks, but i havent ridden them far enough to wear anything. the tread is still covered in little molding hairs, and the fact that its happening to both suggests that this is clearly a manufacturing defect. they probably just had a problem with the casings in this batch. Fat tires are notorious for not running round, and if it wasnt rubbing the stays, i probably would have just kept running them. as it is they are unusable for me, even just the mile back to the car wore a dime sized patch of paint off the inside of my frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    yeah thanks, but i havent ridden them far enough to wear anything. the tread is still covered in little molding hairs, and the fact that its happening to both suggests that this is clearly a manufacturing defect. they probably just had a problem with the casings in this batch. Fat tires are notorious for not running round, and if it wasnt rubbing the stays, i probably would have just kept running them. as it is they are unusable for me, even just the mile back to the car wore a dime sized patch of paint off the inside of my frame.

    If it were just one, I would say bad luck, but because it's 2, maybe check your pressure as well. The treads wouldn't necessarily show as much wear as your sidewall. Also a good reference here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodnmusic View Post
    If it were just one, I would say bad luck, but because it's 2, maybe check your pressure as well. The treads wouldn't necessarily show as much wear as your sidewall. Also a good reference here:

    Bulge in Tire
    pressure has been 10lbs rear, 8 front. nothing out of the ordinary there.
    thanks for the responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    pressure has been 10lbs rear, 8 front. nothing out of the ordinary there.
    thanks for the responses.
    It's probably the casing wearing out. What kind of terrain are you riding with those pressures?

    I usually do about 10psi in snow, 12 on singletrack, and 15 on road (not often).

    I'd have your LBS take a look to confirm the tires are dead and then replace. Any idea what you will put on next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodnmusic View Post
    It's probably the casing wearing out. What kind of terrain are you riding with those pressures?

    I usually do about 10psi in snow, 12 on singletrack, and 15 on road (not often).

    I'd have your LBS take a look to confirm the tires are dead and then replace. Any idea what you will put on next?
    Ive been riding them purely in snow (because i want them to stay green). i have been saving the aggressive green tires until now when we finally get some accumulation.
    i think it's highly unlikely that both tires would simultaneously "wear out" in only 5 rides. as previously stated, the tread still has molding hairs, these tires are not even broken in yet.
    i've contacted On-One about a warranty, because i think it's pretty obviously a manufacturing defect.
    To answer your last question, if they don't follow through with it, i will be replacing with nates (like i originally wanted). these tires are great in snow, but if On-One is going to bone me out of a set of tires i'm not gona give them any more of my money.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Here is a little review I did on the monster for my youtube channel. Love to hear what you think


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugout Bikes View Post
    Here is a little review I did on the monster for my youtube channel. Love to hear what you think

    Very nice. It almost makes me want to buy one.

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    I've looked through all of the posts and maybe I missed it, but what is the stock weight on these?

    I'd likely replace the tubes, handlebars, and stem with lighter parts, but other than that I'd like to keep it stock. Hoping to hear around 35lbs but that may be wishful thinking at $500.

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