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    Re: Gravity Bullseye Monster

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    (of course Moab should be on almost everyone's bucket list)

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    Agreed. Moab is spectacular, and one of my favorite bike trips ever.
    Great post oldbear, Glad to hear everything is going well for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Marna: I am not that computer savy to repost It. I will keep on writing and posting here if you see something you can print it out and put it on your blog and yahoo. com page. It's kinda hard when they only thing this laptop does is act as a portal to the web.
    On the bike front we are going to order a Gravity Bullseye monster for my oldest son who has autism. He can ride a bike and deserves one of these for himself. We are ordering in March cuz we gotta save for it. It will be a green 16 inch. He's currently riding a walgoose beat and keeps wanting me to lower the seat on mine to ride it Then the next bike is for my wife next fall after her surgery to remove a tumor. Your Humble Obedient Servant, OldBear
    Thank you!
    Good Luck to your and your family.....we all look forward to seeing your family, all sitting on their Fatties....out on the trial!

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    just wondering if any one tried a 100 mm on the front and a 80 on the back. i am waiting for my monster and am very worried about the 50 mm rims didnt see that till after order. want it for snow so any help would be great thanks so much

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    Gravity strikes again! JK

    Marna: I just looked at your blog. It is really neat, When we lived off grid at a radio station in SE Missouri we had solar power and propane generators. We also kept goats. We rode Mountain bikes on some sweet Ozark hills down there and some old BMX/beach cruisers a neighbor gave us. So we know what it's like to live in the woods off grid.

    I got some good news today from the Cardiologist. He told my that a recent ultrasound of my heart showed that it's function has improved 10%! All because of diet and a matte black Gravity Bullseye Monster! My weight drops steadily month by month, week by week and day by day. So anyone who has doubts I have physical proof!
    Peace OLDBEAR

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    congrats oldbear. Keep it up

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    Gravity Bullseye Monster PRO Bluto Fork FatBike

    This looks SWEET! SALE $1099.95 (List $2899)

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    Frame: Tapered Head Tube, ALLOY 6061 FRAME, W/DISC MOUNT, TIG WELD, replaceable rear derailleur hanger, H2O bosses, T/T-35MM, S/T-31.8MM, D/T-44M, Rear Rack SeatStay Brazeons, 170mm symmetrical rear
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    Re: Gravity Bullseye Monster

    Well, bd came through with the warranty.
    This is exactly what I would have replaced it with. The 34t cog will be super useful with this much traction.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Bluto on a Monster? and upgrades too?

    WOW# now that bike is something to save for! when I get my taxes and va disability I can see one in gloss black coming my way! Nice components and sweet fork. Not that I need front suspension, but it will be nice to have for riding on rock gardens and tech sections in the Ozarks. Or should I get it in that electric blue? our '81 Honda Civic was that color and we will name the bike George. "And I will love him and pet him and make him my own." P$EACE the OLDBEAR

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    Dawg: Nice to see your got your parts, are you going to break it in soon?

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    Hi, I have been looking at this bike for beach riding - have an uninhabited 8 mile island nearby. Wonder how you think this bike would be on soft sand?

    Also I have a gimp leg from an injury and have to step thru the frame. Could you give me the distance from ground to lowest point on top tube?

    Thanks,

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    Depending on the size you want the 18" standover height is 29" and the 16" is 28". They don't make a "womens frame" in that style and the only wat to get that is custom or buy a beach cruiser.
    I have ridden My monster on some sand bars around here and the tires don't dig in like a 26 x 2.5 does. A bike with say 4" to 5" tires will carry you across or into sand buy the dig rate isn't deep enough to slow you down.The Monster comes stock with 4" tires and I weigh 259. My bike perform in sand and loose gravel excellently.
    On that line you might be able to squeeze into one of the Mango bikes a pair of 4" tires. that way it will ride easier over the path you choose. It all depends on your weight and riding style.
    In fact the BD folks stock a few mo0dels of fat bike beach cruisers with 3.5 Veerubber speedster tires that would most likely work for your beach rides.If you are interested in also riding off road on some sweet single track get a Gravity Bullseye Monster. .

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    Re: Gravity Bullseye Monster

    While I was waiting for parts I thought I would test out the versatility of the narrow(er) rims, and I must say I like it.

    These are some old 2.5s I had kicking around. The pictures don't really do any justice, but the wide rims give them a whole lot of volume and a nice square profile.
    Rides pretty nice. More like a burly skinny bike than a fat, but boy is it quick and responsive.
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    Thanks for the info. - I would step over as close to the nose of the saddle as possible since that is the lowest point- looks like that would be a couple of inches lower,

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    I'm really considering the single speed version. This is a a second bike for me, a beater, I realize I might be punishing myself but I really dont want to fall into an upgrade trap. Not that the bike requires it but that I will be super tempted to. I could see it being a good training tool to have a ss and the fat tires will help put a smile on my face while my legs are burning. I realize it will probably be a pain in the butt in the snow with ss but the more i think about it the more I realize I'm not going to be doing climbing in the snow. I'm in SJ, snow is hit or miss here. If it snows I might hit up a local flatish trail or ride it around town for fun. I'm not commuting or trying to climb ski trails or anything

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    Ive also convinced myself that the narrower rims are good for ss too as they are a little lighter. Id probably put some 3.7s on it.

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    My silver Bullseye Moster shipped and is to arrive Tue. Oh yeah.

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    Pasquale: Congrats! Be sure to post pics of it. I have decided to save for a Monster with a bluto and give my matte black one to my son.

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    Thanks! I will post pics.
    I almost changed the order to a Bluto one, but decided to stay with this. I can always get one with Bluto later and use this one for guests.

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    you're welcome. I will probably also use the regular Monster for anyone who comes to visit. Thanks for thge Idea. I can raise or lower the saddle to accomodate people from 5'9" to 6'0'". I will probably order mine in April. It will be the gloss black one. I like black bikes my last four were black except for the dolo.
    I have encounter on little snag with my front wheel, it loosened up am was shifting back and forth when I braked. I readjusted the cones and iot seems to solved the problem. and after 550 miles that'sthe only little problem I have had.
    I am getting new tires in December for a Christmas present . I am going to get 45north huskerdu's.. they seem to be a godn choice for my winter riding. Until the next time Keep the rubber siode down! FRED

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    Good report on the Monster! Sounds like it holds up well.

    I just looked up that tire since you mentioned it and it does look like a good tread design. Probably good for all year too.

    I like Silver, White or Black. So I prob will go gloss black too...once I sell my motorcycle. That may not be until the weather warms up again.

    Thanks again Fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy69 View Post
    just wondering if any one tried a 100 mm on the front and a 80 on the back. i am waiting for my monster and am very worried about the 50 mm rims didnt see that till after order. want it for snow so any help would be great thanks so much
    Somebody early in the thread mentioned that they did 80mm, but haven't heard on the 100mm front.

    For what it's worth, I just finally ordered a new wheelset with 80mm rims for myself. It's hard to beat $140 on Amazon. Check them out! Should be about on par with the quality of the stock hubs/rims but with extra width. I started kicking myself in the ass once we got snow on the ground for not having gone for wider rims in the first place. I'll report back later this week on how the new wheels fit, and Stumpy, I'll be sure to get you some numbers on the front fork clearance with 4" tires and the 80mm.

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    What was the issue? Not enough float with the narrower rims? What tires are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankscorpio View Post
    What was the issue? Not enough float with the narrower rims? What tires are you using?
    Yeah, primarily float. My daily commute is about 4 miles of cross-country ski trail, so I definitely started to notice that I wasn't getting as much float as some others, especially once I rode with my buddy on his carbon 907 @ 100mm. I've also been having problems with tire seating - no matter how many times I reset them on the narrower rims the wheel rolled as if the rim wasn't true.

    As far as tires go, I've got a 120tpi Nate in back and 120tpi Bontrager Hodag in front. Hoping that the Weinmann's will work for a tubeless setup also.

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    so you had problems with the 3.8's seating? that is concerning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankscorpio View Post
    so you had problems with the 3.8's seating? that is concerning.
    It was definitely more noticeable on the Missions, but who knows. Might even just be user error - wouldn't be the first time I managed to butcher an otherwise simple task . Got any tips for getting tires to seat nicely?

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    Ha, sorrry, no not really. I claim to be an expert at nothing. I have put a tire on with noticeable kick before but I just took it off an did it again. I couldn't tell you what causes it or how to fix it.

    I'm really on the edge with this bike. Its not really about this bike vs another fat bike though. Its more like spend $400 bucks on this as a fun 2nd bike that can be used for a few different things and ride some easier local trails or keep the $400 bucks for w/e else

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    Got My Silver Monster.

    Anyone Else Like the look of Silver like I do?

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    And where I will take her...
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    What does everyone think of taking a Monster, putting 80mm wheels on, new stem, new bars, and a new saddle? Better option than just buying a Moto FB4 Comp?

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    BTW - this is a size 16in. I'm 5'8.5", My inseam measures 31.5". The standover height on this if you measure where you actually stand over it, in front of the seat, is 29". I could have possibly gone with 14" too for more clearance, but am happy with the 16".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocklax View Post
    What does everyone think of taking a Monster, putting 80mm wheels on, new stem, new bars, and a new saddle? Better option than just buying a Moto FB4 Comp?
    not really/maybe? Take stem, bars, and saddle out of the equation. because those are really just fit things that you are likely to change on any bike. The question is going to be how much are you spending on the 80mm rims? the fb4 you are also getting 9 speed components, shimano over sram (which is a preference) and better brakes. They may not be the best brakes but the novella's suck.

    Long story short if you were to upgrade the gravity to the fb4 specs it would be more expensive then just buying the fb4. If you are happy with the gravity specced the way it is and you can get 80mm wheels for less than 200 then sure, do it.

    Also keep in mind the fb4 is offset

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    Silver is looking sharp, especially with the red rim cut outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkloin View Post
    Got any tips for getting tires to seat nicely?
    I lay the wheel on its side and pump it up just enough for the tire to hold its shape, then i spin it and watch the bead to see where the low/high spots are on either side. if the tire pressure is low enough, you can push/pull on the sidewall and slide the bead so that it is even all the way around. then when you air it up, the beads pop in evenly. it's tedious and takes some practice, but it works.
    you could also try lubing up the beads with soapy water and airing them up to around 30 psi, just make sure there aren't any outstanding high spots before airing up or the bead might jump off the rim. ive never had that happen on a fat bike, but even with low volume tires, its loud enough to make your ears ring (and possibly merit a new set set of underpants)
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    That's a good point. Something I do that I didn't think about when you asked that question is when I put a new tire on (tubed) I seat it and air it up much higher than i would ride it. Like 40 psi. Than I spin it slowly to check it, then I put all my weight on it and rotate it a few inches at a time and keep putting weight on it to make sure its not going to pinch flat while riding

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    just go mine and have to say i am impressed, self-steer is bad till u get on the dirt than it is great. Anyone thinking about drilling the holes bigger with a step drill?

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    Does the self steer get better on pavement if you increase the psi?

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    yes it does get better but if you drop it down you sure can tell lol

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    Bullseye Monster Gear and tuning question.

    Have two questions:

    1) My bike has a two gear chainwheel, yet the front shifter is a three gear - is this normal or was I sent the wrong shifter?

    2) My chain keeps jumping 2 to 3 times when shifting down from 4th to 3rd. I tried adjusting the "H" when in 1st to make it slightly out board and another time where it is directly inline with gear. It still jumps - meaning that it doesnt go to another gear comopletly but just starts to then comes back to 3rd. It only does this under stress when riding it, not when on work stand. All other shifting is great. Any suggestions on how to tune it to eliminate this?

    Crankset: LASCO 22/32T 175MM ALLOY
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM RD-X4-A1
    Shifters: SRAM X4 TRIGGER

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy69 View Post
    just wondering if any one tried a 100 mm on the front and a 80 on the back. i am waiting for my monster and am very worried about the 50 mm rims didnt see that till after order. want it for snow so any help would be great thanks so much

    Stumpy, got my 80mm rims in yesterday and snapped a couple photos. The increase in surface area from the 3.8"/4.0" tires was pretty astounding. The tires look and feel quite a bit beefier on the wider rims. Took it out on the trails today into some deep snow and felt a little bit more floaty.

    As far as the 100mm/80mm combo goes, I think it's possible. Here's my front fork with a Bontrager Hodag and an 80mm rim:
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    As you can see, there's still quite a bit of clearance there, so I don't doubt that you would be able to bump up to a 100mm. Alternatively, you might be able to run a 4.5/4.8 tire on a 80mm rim.

    In the rear, however, it's a totally different story. As akacoke said way earlier in the thread, 80mm with a 3.8 is just about the maximum for the rear. With mine I get chain rub on the tire in the double granny (lowest rear and lowest front), as you can see in this picture:

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    I don't mind too much, since the next gear on the rear clears just fine, and I haven't ever used the double granny on this bike since I bought it. Your mileage might vary with other tires though, since the Nate has some pretty burly side knobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Have two questions:

    1) My bike has a two gear chainwheel, yet the front shifter is a three gear - is this normal or was I sent the wrong shifter?

    2) My chain keeps jumping 2 to 3 times when shifting down from 4th to 3rd. I tried adjusting the "H" when in 1st to make it slightly out board and another time where it is directly inline with gear. It still jumps - meaning that it doesnt go to another gear comopletly but just starts to then comes back to 3rd. It only does this under stress when riding it, not when on work stand. All other shifting is great. Any suggestions on how to tune it to eliminate this?

    Crankset: LASCO 22/32T 175MM ALLOY
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM RD-X4-A1
    Shifters: SRAM X4 TRIGGER

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    1) My front shifter is the same - I assume everyone got a 3-gear click shifter despite only having two front rings.

    2) Is your rear derailleur cable too tight? Also, you won't want to adjust the H or L screws for indexing. Those only limit the horizontal movement of the derailleur (to prevent over or undershifting past the gears themselves) Instead, set your cable tension at a reasonable tightness (probably less tight than you'll want to) then use the barrel adjuster on the handlebars to set the indexing. You're spot on as far as the check goes, just make sure it looks straight in line with the gears. Sheldon Brown's article on derailleur adjustment is pretty good, so I'd check that out.

    Derailer Adjustment

    Edit: Oh yeah, and make sure your derailleur hanger is tight - mine was loose when it came. That'd definitely result in some autoshifting behavior. And if you get stumped, take it to your LBS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkloin View Post
    1) My front shifter is the same - I assume everyone got a 3-gear click shifter despite only having two front rings.

    2) Is your rear derailleur cable too tight? Also, you won't want to adjust the H or L screws for indexing. Those only limit the horizontal movement of the derailleur (to prevent over or undershifting past the gears themselves) Instead, set your cable tension at a reasonable tightness (probably less tight than you'll want to) then use the barrel adjuster on the handlebars to set the indexing. You're spot on as far as the check goes, just make sure it looks straight in line with the gears. Sheldon Brown's article on derailleur adjustment is pretty good, so I'd check that out.

    Derailer Adjustment

    Edit: Oh yeah, and make sure your derailleur hanger is tight - mine was loose when it came. That'd definitely result in some autoshifting behavior. And if you get stumped, take it to your LBS!
    Thanks so much! I will give those things a try tomorrow and for now read that article.

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    Thanks pork loin how do u like the new rims let us know how they hold up

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    my future love of my life

    check it out just saw the new Gravity Quigley FS FatBikes full suspension
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    Re: Gravity Bullseye Monster

    Quote Originally Posted by spicinit View Post
    check it out just saw the new Gravity Quigley FS FatBikes full suspension
    Yes, we know. If you want you can start a new thread about it, I know I am personally very interested, but let's keep this thread about the monster so that it doesn't end up like the massive bikes direct thread.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    dirtdawg,

    Thanks for starting this thread and for the ongoing review of the Gravity Bullseye Monster. I was on the fence about getting this bike, but after reading your in-depth reviews and viewing all the awesome pictures, I ended up pulling the trigger and ordered one in silver last night.

    Bikes Direct have already shipped and emailed me with a tracking number. Can't wait to get the bike and start riding.

    Currently riding a Salsa Fargo but we're expecting snow pretty soon here in Minnesota. The Fargo will not do.

    I will upload some pics once I have the bike assembled and ready.

    Thanks again! Excellent thread! Ride Safe!

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    Gravity Bullseye Monster-fat-trail.jpgHey Tuareg - You'll like this bike and the silver looks great. Here is mine on trail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
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ID:	937325Hey Tuareg - You'll like this bike and the silver looks great. Here is mine on trail...
    Hi Pasquale! Yes, I saw pics of your silver monster on this post, and that is exactly why I went with the silver! Sweet looking bike!

    Hoping I don't have to wait too long for mine to come in. I already got a tracking number from BD, but status shows ready for UPS.

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    Should be quick - be sure to have someone sign for it since signature is required. I think I got mine in only 3 business days from when it shipped. I live in IL and it came from TX.

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    Did you paint the rims or are they upgrades?

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    Yeah I drilled them out bigger painted white and added orange duct tape I really like the white. I did find a set of the same rims already painted white with 3 in tires at bike island after I went through all the trouble. Go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Should be quick - be sure to have someone sign for it since signature is required. I think I got mine in only 3 business days from when it shipped. I live in IL and it came from TX.
    Got it! Checked on the status again and it is scheduled to be delivered upcoming Wednesday! I'll plan to work from home that day!

    We are expecting snow this Sunday.....perfect timing!

    I suppose I should switch out those Mission tires as they don't offer much of traction in the snow. Looking at either 45NRTH Husker Du or Panaracer Fat B Nimble. Any suggestions???

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    Greeting one and all! I got my Huskerdu's and had a neighbor who was a bike shop employee before coming
    g here for college mount them. I got to ride them for one day and they ride wonderful. (just can't wait for some snow). Recently I had a stroke and am now sidelined for six weeks doing the therapy thing. I lost some use on the left side, however they expect a full recovery. At the therapy clinic, I am riding a stationary bike. I do bring my own saddle and get strange looks form the thrapists and other patients. LOL So, everyone keep riding and I will keep on posting here and my other thread "Fatbiking and Health". Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post


    Greeting one and all! I got my Huskerdu's and had a neighbor who was a bike shop employee before coming
    g here for college mount them. I got to ride them for one day and they ride wonderful. (just can't wait for some snow). Recently I had a stroke and am now sidelined for six weeks doing the therapy thing. I lost some use on the left side, however they expect a full recovery. At the therapy clinic, I am riding a stationary bike. I do bring my own saddle and get strange looks form the thrapists and other patients. LOL So, everyone keep riding and I will keep on posting here and my other thread "Fatbiking and Health". Peace
    Hey OB good luck with the rehab, keep ridin' bro.

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    i got mine about two months ago used from a guy in town and it is so much fun to ride. i have had had all different types but this is fun to ride every where street and trail
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post


    Greeting one and all! I got my Huskerdu's and had a neighbor who was a bike shop employee before coming
    g here for college mount them. I got to ride them for one day and they ride wonderful. (just can't wait for some snow). Recently I had a stroke and am now sidelined for six weeks doing the therapy thing. I lost some use on the left side, however they expect a full recovery. At the therapy clinic, I am riding a stationary bike. I do bring my own saddle and get strange looks form the thrapists and other patients. LOL So, everyone keep riding and I will keep on posting here and my other thread "Fatbiking and Health". Peace
    Hi Oldbear,
    Sorry to hear about your stroke. Hope you have a full and speedy recovery and are able to get back on your fat bike. I took a 6 month hiatus from riding due to back surgery and am just getting back into biking. More painful to not be able to ride than the surgery and recovery itself!

    Definitely leaning towards the Husker Du's. Better suited for Minnesota winters!

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    Quick question guys; how sturdy is the crankset and bottom bracket on this bike? I'm not necessarily a heavy rider but very aggressive and tend to stand quite a bit. Worried the crankset and bb may not be able to handle what I dish out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormscrambler View Post
    i got mine about two months ago used from a guy in town and it is so much fun to ride. i have had had all different types but this is fun to ride every where street and trail
    Sweet! More positive reviews from Bullseye riders! Seems I have made an excellent choice.

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    It is a charger spoon saddle from bike wagon it was $20 and I love it and its a 69 Cutlass

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy69 View Post
    It is a charger spoon saddle from bike wagon it was $20 and I love it and its a 69 Cutlass
    Great reviews on the Charge spoon. Very nice Cutlass!

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    Today was a good day, no an excellent day! I went to the hospital for rehab and worked out for an hour and then asked if I could ride the stationary bike for thirty minutes. the therapist set up the machine to replicate a road ride with moderate hills and I rode without a hitch. They said I was improving rapidly and should be back out on my bike in FOUR WEEKS. y heartrate, blood pressure, and Oxygen stay in the allowable range. I told the therapist that I owe it to fat biking on a regular basis and she agreed. They have internet at the clinic and I showed them what a fat bike looks like by going to the Bikesdirect website. One of the male therapists said he might get one. score another one for fat bikes! Above all else I owe a big debt of gratitude to fat biking in my ability to recover quickly. kepp on cycling Fred

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    tuareg: I weigh 248 and the cranks and bb holdup pretty well, and thanks for the encouragement. OLdbear aka Fred

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    the biggest complaint i have though is the brakes, i don't know if i am not used to manual disks or what but they are so weak, they have gotten better with some adjustments, i am at the point of getting new ones, any suggestions

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    I have to brag on bikesdirect.com and my FATTY BIKE, as well as ACME Bicycle Shop here in Rapid City, SD.

    I had a problem with my cassette, bikesdirect said to take it to a Bike Shop....my husband has worked on and built bikes in the past, also vehicles, changed motors and 4 W Drive in our truck...he is not an average bike owner who would not know how to fix them. Anyway, he could not fix the bike gear problem. Saturday we took my bike to the ACME Bike Shop in Rapid City, SD. They not only worked on it, but did it right away. Off we went to the Bike Path.

    Nope. Still had the problem. So we took it back. Again, they looked at it right away.

    To their surprise and to our surprise, we needed a new cassette for the back gears. They put one on and away I went (I LOVE THAT BIKE!)

    Deron contacted bikesdirect.com and they refunded the full amount for the parts and labor. We are quite thrilled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    I have to brag on bikesdirect.com and my FATTY BIKE, as well as ACME Bicycle Shop here in Rapid City, SD.

    I had a problem with my cassette, bikesdirect said to take it to a Bike Shop....my husband has worked on and built bikes in the past, also vehicles, changed motors and 4 W Drive in our truck...he is not an average bike owner who would not know how to fix them. Anyway, he could not fix the bike gear problem. Saturday we took my bike to the ACME Bike Shop in Rapid City, SD. They not only worked on it, but did it right away. Off we went to the Bike Path.

    Nope. Still had the problem. So we took it back. Again, they looked at it right away.

    To their surprise and to our surprise, we needed a new cassette for the back gears. They put one on and away I went (I LOVE THAT BIKE!)

    Deron contacted bikesdirect.com and they refunded the full amount for the parts and labor. We are quite thrilled!
    Thanks for sharing Marna - Can you describe the problem you had because I'm having chain skipping problems on mine in gears 6-7-8 when under moderate or greater load, like climbing a slope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    tuareg: I weigh 248 and the cranks and bb holdup pretty well, and thanks for the encouragement. OLdbear aka Fred
    Excellet! I will not worry about those parts and switch them out when they wear out.

    Glad you are recovering FAST Fred! Awesome news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Thanks for sharing Marna - Can you describe the problem you had because I'm having chain skipping problems on mine in gears 6-7-8 when under moderate or greater load, like climbing a slope.
    My bike was "slipping" when in several gears, worse in the third from the bottom. It did most of them, right out of the box. The bike shop found that the cassette (gears) were not correctly shaped. They changed it out in a short time and the bike rides great now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormscrambler View Post
    the biggest complaint i have though is the brakes, i don't know if i am not used to manual disks or what but they are so weak, they have gotten better with some adjustments, i am at the point of getting new ones, any suggestions
    I'm not necessarily a fan of disc brakes in general. I have Avid BB7 disc brakes on my Salsa Fargo and I have yet to get them tuned to where they perform well. They are very weak as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    My bike was "slipping" when in several gears, worse in the third from the bottom. It did most of them, right out of the box. The bike shop found that the cassette (gears) were not correctly shaped. They changed it out in a short time and the bike rides great now.
    "Slipping" is what I meant to say. That's exactly what I have and it was also worse at that same gear, 3rd from bottom. I wish these came with Shimano gears in back - I'd pay the extra $15- $20.

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    Marna, Can you tell me what the bill came to for parts and what the labor cost? I'll be going to my LBS to see if they come to the same conclusion and also compare what they charge. BD asked me to go to the LBS to have them check it out.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Marna, Can you tell me what the bill came to for parts and what the labor cost? I'll be going to my LBS to see if they come to the same conclusion and also compare what they charge. BD asked me to go to the LBS to have them check it out.

    Thanks
    I do not have it in front of me, and Deron took care of it all. But it was about/approx, with both, $70. We were expecting a higher bill for sure just walking into the bike shop with a bike not bought from them. But they were more than fair on the price and took care of us right away! If you go and take your bike, get a written (wht they did) receipt.

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    I have to say, when Deron, my husband, is ready for another bike, or FATTY, we will surely buy from BD again. We are very pleased. I LOVE that Big Green FATTY Monster! LOVE IT!

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    Marna, Thanks for the info. Just wanted an idea what to expect. I too love BD. I just bought another bike, a Fantom 29er LTD for my son. Putting it together tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Marna, Thanks for the info. Just wanted an idea what to expect. I too love BD. I just bought another bike, a Fantom 29er LTD for my son. Putting it together tomorrow.
    I understand. When DB told us to take to to a LBS I was afraid it would cost us another couple hundred dollars. I am so glad they refunded us too. Fair, but still I was surprised.

    Be sure and contact them first. Let them tell you to take it to a LBS. I don't know if it matters or not, but why take the chance.

    Good Luck. I hope you get fixed up as well as I did.

    And funny....I have been looking (on line) at the 29"ers. But I think I will probably stay with this FATTY for a while anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    I understand. When DB told us to take to to a LBS I was afraid it would cost us another couple hundred dollars. I am so glad they refunded us too. Fair, but still I was surprised.

    Be sure and contact them first. Let them tell you to take it to a LBS. I don't know if it matters or not, but why take the chance.

    Good Luck. I hope you get fixed up as well as I did.

    And funny....I have been looking (on line) at the 29"ers. But I think I will probably stay with this FATTY for a while anyway.
    Well, just got my silver Monster in today and unfortunately it has issues right out of the box. The front fork is bent inwards to where I cannot slip the wheel in and tighten it. The rear derailleur is bent into the spokes and the rear derailleur hanger is obviously bent as well. Funny, the box that it came packaged in does not show any signs of impact or wear, so something happened during the actual packaging of the bike.

    Time to contact BD and see how fast they will respond and what bike shop they will suggest taking the bike to for the necessary repairs. Bummed! I was hoping to get the bike assembled tonight and take it for a spin tomorrow. Not going to happen anytime soon! Gravity Bullseye Monster-img_6126.jpgGravity Bullseye Monster-img_6127.jpg
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    Tuareg: I really fell for you Bro. I was lucky with mine. I have a problem with my casette too. maybe I will call BD and see if they will replace it. It doesn't bother me as much as it used too, but, I am going to call.

    On the stroke front the Doctor said that I can ride the week of Christmas. I am so happy. Today they took my cane away and my left side is getti8ng stronger. I don't walk with a limp.

    Marna: How much snow do you have? I hope that your husband gets a fatty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat beastard View Post
    I have had my monster for about 3 months now and have put about 500 miles on it. I love this thing.

    I am six one with a 32 inseam, bought the 20, wish I had bought the 18. I have been riding alot of rocks at the beach and the 20 feels big. The 18 probably would have been a betyer choice.

    when I recieved the bike the front fork was bent, tweaked during shipping. BD customer service was awesome and took care of it immediately. I replaced the cassette and chain at 400 miles, it was skipping bad and was shot, (salt water fun, but not good for bikes). I too swapped the bars and stem and put on a set of rock bros flats.

    I have a set of 80s on the way and will post pics when they arrive. Like others I replace as it breaks, or as I get bored. Good news is that most of the changes are from boredom, this is a well built bike for the cash. I am so glad I bought this bike and not the dolo. Love the beast for playing, love to ride yhe monster.
    Hi,

    Could you please explain how BD helped with the issue of the front fork being bent? My front fork is bent as well. My LBS does not want to work on the fork for liability reasons and recommend replacing the fork. Thanks.

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    Hi Fred! Fantastic news! Glad to hear you're making a speedy recovery and will be riding soon!

    Yes, frustrating experience, however, BD have been very responsive so far! Excellent customer service I must say. They have offered advice on how to fix the bent fork and even refund to apply towards the service at my LBS. They have also shipped out a replacement derailleur hanger. Couldn't be more happy with their service! Just working on figuring out how to get the bike rideable so that I can get out there and start riding!

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    the biggest complaint i have though is the brakes, i don't know if i am not used to manual disks or what but they are so weak, they have gotten better with some adjustments, i am at the point of getting new ones, any suggestions
    If you read the beginning of the thread, I had a similar opinion when my bike came in. It took about 50 miles for the brakes bed in, but they steadily got stronger and felt better. Now at 1000 miles they are still going strong and feeling good. I will upgrade to bb7's when it's time, but the pads aren't even showing any wear yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuareg View Post
    Well, just got my silver Monster in today and unfortunately it has issues right out of the box. The front fork is bent inwards to where I cannot slip the wheel in and tighten it. The rear derailleur is bent into the spokes and the rear derailleur hanger is obviously bent as well. Funny, the box that it came packaged in does not show any signs of impact or wear, so something happened during the actual packaging of the bike.

    Time to contact BD and see how fast they will respond and what bike shop they will suggest taking the bike to for the necessary repairs. Bummed! I was hoping to get the bike assembled tonight and take it for a spin tomorrow. Not going to happen anytime soon! Click image for larger version. 

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    That hanger could be salvaged with a straightening tool, but that fork looks bad! I would be very surprised if bd doesn't send you a new fork and a spare hanger no questions asked when they see those pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    That hanger could be salvaged with a straightening tool, but that fork looks bad! I would be very surprised if bd doesn't send you a new fork and a spare hanger no questions asked when they see those pictures.
    Hi dirtdawg,

    I suppose the hanger can be salvaged, except I don't have the straightening tool. I did email the pics to BD and they suggested carefully pulling at the fork legs to straighten them out. I did that and was able to slip the wheel through but it doesn't look right at all. The disc brake will not seat properly in the disc housing and the wheel is way off center. The fork legs look straight enough now but the stem appears off kilter. I don't think I want to play around with or trust this fork any longer.

    Gravity Bullseye Monster-img_6135.jpg

    In addition, after removing the protective packaging from around the derailleur and turning the bike upside down, found the cage of the derailleur to be badly warped.

    Gravity Bullseye Monster-img_6145.jpg

    I have emailed BD with these details and curious to find out what they have to say. They've been very reasonable to deal with so far. I'm getting a little frustrated though.

    By the way, I previously owned a Surly Pugsley Necromancer. I'm itching to find out how the Bullseye compares to that!
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    Tuareg: Did you get a response from Bikesdirect? I hope they send a replacement for that bent fork. It looks horrible. By the way are those rack bosses on the fork? must be something new for 2015. Has anybody else got those bosses on their bikes?

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    Tuareg: Did you get a response from Bikesdirect? I hope they send a replacement for that bent fork. It looks horrible. By the way are those rack bosses on the fork? must be something new for 2015. Has anybody else got those bosses on their bikes?
    I was looking at that too, but have been an addition for Rev 2. I don't miss them, but it would have been nice.
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    Yeah I drilled them out bigger painted white and added orange duct tape I really like the white. I did find a set of the same rims already painted white with 3 in tires at bike island after I went through all the trouble. Go figure
    What size did you drill the holes too? Any concern over the strength after doing that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    I understand. When DB told us to take to to a LBS I was afraid it would cost us another couple hundred dollars. I am so glad they refunded us too. Fair, but still I was surprised.

    Be sure and contact them first. Let them tell you to take it to a LBS. I don't know if it matters or not, but why take the chance.

    Good Luck. I hope you get fixed up as well as I did.

    And funny....I have been looking (on line) at the 29"ers. But I think I will probably stay with this FATTY for a while anyway.
    I brought my Bike in to the LBS and he adjusted it but it still slipped really bad. He then replaced the rear cassaette with a Shimano CS-HG41-8 and the slipping was instantly gone...so nice, I love this bike. I sent BD this info and a scan of the receipt. Mine also came to $70 total. Thanks again Marna!

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    I only went 1\4 in bigger so no concerns

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuareg View Post
    Hi dirtdawg,

    I suppose the hanger can be salvaged, except I don't have the straightening tool. I did email the pics to BD and they suggested carefully pulling at the fork legs to straighten them out. I did that and was able to slip the wheel through but it doesn't look right at all. The disc brake will not seat properly in the disc housing and the wheel is way off center. The fork legs look straight enough now but the stem appears off kilter. I don't think I want to play around with or trust this fork any longer.

    In addition, after removing the protective packaging from around the derailleur and turning the bike upside down, found the cage of the derailleur to be badly warped.


    I have emailed BD with these details and curious to find out what they have to say. They've been very reasonable to deal with so far. I'm getting a little frustrated though.

    By the way, I previously owned a Surly Pugsley Necromancer. I'm itching to find out how the Bullseye compares to that!
    Dealt with same issue with BD. Derailleur bent into spokes and my fork was bent badly enough that the paint actually stress cracked. The fork measured only 4" when measured at the dropouts (should 5.5-6"). The derailleur hanger took the brunt so that was replaced.

    As far as the fork goes they also suggested multiple times that I just bend it back. They seemed to think I should just put my foot on it and yank it back into place. Said it was "simple" several times but I declined. I felt nothing would ever line up right and either way the paint was damaged. Seeing your situation now leads me think I as right.

    I suggest you hold out for a new fork, you paid what they asked for a bike in new condition. It took a bit of back and forth but BD appears to be coming through with a new fork. They were fairly responsive (even if they were a bit condescending) so I still give the service a good grade but a lot of bikes seem to be coming thru with bent derailleurs and forks.

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    Hi Fred. Yes, BD came through after seeing the pictures. They have already shipped out a new fork which I should be receiving on Monday. I will ship back the damaged fork to them. Those are indeed rack braze-ons on the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    I was looking at that too, but have been an addition for Rev 2. I don't miss them, but it would have been nice.
    I looked through other Monster images on this thread, and so far only the silver Monsters have the front fork braze-ons. See images of member Pasquale's silver Monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtale View Post
    Dealt with same issue with BD. Derailleur bent into spokes and my fork was bent badly enough that the paint actually stress cracked. The fork measured only 4" when measured at the dropouts (should 5.5-6"). The derailleur hanger took the brunt so that was replaced.

    As far as the fork goes they also suggested multiple times that I just bend it back. They seemed to think I should just put my foot on it and yank it back into place. Said it was "simple" several times but I declined. I felt nothing would ever line up right and either way the paint was damaged. Seeing your situation now leads me think I as right.

    I suggest you hold out for a new fork, you paid what they asked for a bike in new condition. It took a bit of back and forth but BD appears to be coming through with a new fork. They were fairly responsive (even if they were a bit condescending) so I still give the service a good grade but a lot of bikes seem to be coming thru with bent derailleurs and forks.
    Hi Hardtale,

    Yes, I was told exactly the same, and I did go through with the procedure to straighten the fork legs the best I could. You were right in suspecting that things would not line up properly. They certainly did not for me.

    A couple of email messages back and forth with BD and they shipped out a replacement fork to me. I'm so far impressed with their service and handling of the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    I brought my Bike in to the LBS and he adjusted it but it still slipped really bad. He then replaced the rear cassaette with a Shimano CS-HG41-8 and the slipping was instantly gone...so nice, I love this bike. I sent BD this info and a scan of the receipt. Mine also came to $70 total. Thanks again Marna!
    Pasquale,
    Thanks for posting the part number to the Shimano cassette! Makes it easy to locate the part online. Since I'm going to be replacing my bent derailleur hanger, I will replace the cassette as well so as to avoid the gear slipping issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuareg View Post
    A couple of email messages back and forth with BD and they shipped out a replacement fork to me. I'm so far impressed with their service and handling of the situation.
    I don't know how many people hey have answering service emails but seems they are working from a playbook. Good your getting a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtale View Post
    I don't know how many people hey have answering service emails but seems they are working from a playbook. Good your getting a new one.
    I agree. Having a customer service phone number would have made things a bit easier. Looking forward to putting the bike together!

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    Tuareg;
    congrats on having great success. looking forward to reading your riding experiences!

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    Tuareg;
    congrats on having great success. looking forward to reading your riding experiences!
    Thanks Fred!

    It has gotten a little crisp here in Minnesota. We already have snow on the ground and looking at below freezing temps. The Monster is going to be my daily winter work commuter. A little nervous about the stock Vee Mission tires. Most reviews seem to indicate that they are pretty much worthless in winters, but willing to at least try them out before ordering the Husker Du's.

    Will update the thread with ride details and pics once I'm up and running.

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    REFUND RECEIVED: Just received a refund from BD for the rear cassette and labor. Customer service has been amazing. This sort of response from a mail order business is crucial. We can't try the bikes out before buying them and items may get damaged in shipping, but knowing that BD customer service is there to make it right takes away any hesitation to order from them.

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    Had same rear cassete problem you could see that the teeth are not all the same shape emailed BD they are shipping a new one, WOW that is service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy69 View Post
    Had same rear cassete problem you could see that the teeth are not all the same shape emailed BD they are shipping a new one, WOW that is service.
    I agree completely! Fantastic customer service! Very satisfied with my purchase from BD and will not hesitate giving them future business. I received my replacement derailleur hanger on Friday and replacement fork on Monday. Put the bike together Tuesday and rode it into work today. Absolutely love it! Pics coming later this evening.

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    Tektro Novela's aren't the best brakes. I started out with those on my SS 29er and they weren't properly bedded...things screeched like crazy. Could hear me coming from a mile away. Switched over to Shimano Deores and all was better.

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    Send the whole thing back, the fork bend out job at a local bike shop is 30-$50 and the derailer hanger is at least $30. They'll try to flake you with a $40 credit. Get a return bike in better shape or get ready to get hosed.$$$$
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    well i love this bike but i am going to have to sell it, some unexpected bills came up, i will miss the fatty, it will be a while before i can a ford another
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormscrambler View Post
    well i love this bike but i am going to have to sell it, some unexpected bills came up, i will miss the fatty, it will be a while before i can a ford another
    Im sorry to hear that. You can't like, sell a kidney or something instead?
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    i wish but they both make stones so no one wants that, i am going to 86 the dirt jumper first and keep the fatty though

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    Haven't been on here a while, been too busy riding the bike 20KM a day through this snowy winter! Let's just say the commute has become a fun thing now!

    Two things: better 1/2 now wants one (yeah) but this will be a drive down to Montana as BD don't ship directly to Canada.

    Not so good: I too have been getting the skipping issue but had put that down to to non-optimal tuning / lube so will check tonight. It's dark on the morning & night rides so maintenance is a weekend / day light thing. So thanks for detailing this!
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    I haven't been here for awhile because I was recovering from a stroke.
    I was released Wednesday from rehab therapy and was told I could ride anytime I want. So Thanksgiving day I rode for the first time in over three weeks .
    During my 'time off', I put my Monster in the shop for routine maintainence and had the rear casette replaced. It was doing the skipped gear thing and although it really didn't bother me I want my fatty to have a full range of gears.
    Any way yesterday, Friday I finally got to ride the Lion's Club trail for about a hour or so. i had put on new tires just before all this happened (Huskerdu's) and believe me they are really nice! I rode at a moderate pace and those tires hooked up on the leaf covered trail!
    the original tires and tubes went on my handicapped son's bike. ( a walgoose beast)

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    Hey Oldbear, glad you are doing well enough to ride again! Also, thanks for the report on those tires.

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    Has anyone hung our Bullseye Monster on a scale? Curious as how it compares in weight to the Lurch (20" Lurch w/o pedals is 38.14lbs on Lurch Lounge)

    If anyone does weigh theirs, please also mention what size it is.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Has anyone hung our Bullseye Monster on a scale? Curious as how it compares in weight to the Lurch (20" Lurch w/o pedals is 38.14lbs on Lurch Lounge)

    If anyone does weigh theirs, please also mention what size it is.

    Thanks!
    Ok me, I just threw my 16" Bullseye Monster on a doctor's scale and it comes up as 35.25 lbs and that's with Wellgo LU-B18 BMX Aluminum pedals.

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    Re: Gravity Bullseye Monster

    Sorry I haven't reported anything for a while, the semester is in full swing and calculus has been keeping me super busy. We had a white Thanksgiving here in New England and 1200 miles later the bike finally got to see snow for the first time.
    Fatty flotilla.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm really impressed with this bike. Even without nice tires, this thing was kicking ass in the snow and I stayed in the front of the pack for most of the day. The gravity was not holding me back, and proved that it can float and ride snow as well as any of the other bikes. (mostly blizzard's and fat boys, with a muk and a pug)

    looking sharp with some white floaters, these tires really bring the bike to life.

    watch out for falling trees, the storm left several trails unpassable.
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    Happy holidays!
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    The Monsterm on the Berryman!

    Dirtdawg: Neat pictures. I even liked the ornaments hanging on your seat!

    I finally got to ride for distance on the Berryman Trail yesterday, The trail is leaf covered and was fairly slick from our recent rains. The New tires, some Huskerdu's hooked up real well during the ride. Our crew consisted of my daughter, middle son, our friend Tom and yours truly. all of us rtode fat bikes and all were Gravity products. Three Monsters and a SS Deadeye Monster. The SS is my early Christmas gift from my wife. We rode ten mile out and ten miles back. My had brought down his Walgoose Dolo and when he saw the SS he wanted to ride it. So we switched off and on and I must say i LOVE THESE BIKES I was really impressed by the tires. Not once Didf they fail me or lose traction on the climbs and not once ddid they wash out on the downhills.

    Once we returned home we had a bike cleaning party. We discussed our plans for rides the rest of this month. We are going to ride the KATY Trail next weekend and then the weekend before Christmas we are going to ride ar Binder Lake park up near Jefferson City. To round out the month New Years Day we are going to ride the complete length of the Berryman. My son has a nice van and he is going to bring it down so we can ride point to point.

    We are all going to buy new pedals at the turn of the year. Miner are starting to show signs of wear and I am looking for some decent platforms to use. Can anyone recommend any?
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    Hey all,

    Thanks to you guys, I have a black Gravity Bullseye Monster scheduled for delivery on Wednesday. I bought my wife a Dolomite as an early Xmas gift, and decided to get myself a fatty, too. Lots of research later, including time here, I pulled the trigger on the Monster.

    We tried the Dolomite on the beach today and it was fun. I've hit that same beach many times in the past on my old Treks (7000 and 950) and my Jamis, and the difference the 4.0s make is cool. Three of us tried the bike on the beach and all came back smiling.

    I'll be doing some mods over time (I'll put on OnOne Floaters and give my Missions to my wife), and I'll post photos when the Monster hits the trails and beach.

    Thanks again, all. Your posts have been truly helpful.

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    We are all going to buy new pedals at the turn of the year. Miner are starting to show signs of wear and I am looking for some decent platforms to use. Can anyone recommend any?
    PEACE Oldbear (aka Fred)
    I got a really nice set from nashbar for like $40, I like them a lot.
    http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/mProduc...0053_549650_-1

    There are even cheaper ones on Amazon but I don't have any firsthand experience with those.
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    Dirtdawg, great job on the no non-sense write-ups. You're really putting this bike thru the wringer. I don't own a fatbike yet but def like the snow/sand capabilities. Two questions if you can:
    1. In performance, what's your foresight on pros vs cons of adding a Bluto fork besides the extra weight and squish?
    2. What's your take on the bikes handling with a slightly steeper headangle compared to your girlfriends fatbike?

    I'd appreciate your input.
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    Gravity Bullseye Monster

    Just got done with my second ride on this. Much better then the first ride. Before I went on my first ride I pumped the tired to what I thought was 10psi. The bike was so hard to handle and I began to wonder if I made a mistake buying it. It felt like the tires were steering against each other. I checked the pressure when I got home and they were at 5psi. Park tool pump was off. Second ride today at actual 10psi was awesome. Very happy with the purchase. I bought it used (3 weeks old) locally. Has a new shims I cassette and specialized lock on grips.

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    Anyone got one with a bluto yet? Is the frame different?
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    The frame has to be somewhat different because it has a tapered head tube.

    I also have those pedals dirtdawg recommends from nashbar. You can catch them onsale from nashbar with one of their 20% off sales get them shipped for right at or under $40. They are really nice, solid pedals. Nice large platform but a relatively narrow profile and dont weigh a ton. Not going to compare to 100+ dollar set of Spanks but they compare very well to other pedals in the 60-70 dollar range

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    I went with the single speed. I also went with a small. I'm on the cusp sizewize and bike shops usually put me on a medium which can feel a little big. The small is giving me a little more maneuverability, but I didn't consider crank length would be shorter. (it's been a while since I bought complete.)

    What tire pressure are you all running?

    For the geargrinders, what ratios do you use most often? Mine came 32/22 and I've riden 32/19 on my 29 for five years and I figured I'd be setting this up that way too but I like the feel of the 22 and I'm sure I will like the ratio even more on snow.

    And has anyone flatted out yet? I'm trying to imagine what finding the puncture on these tubes is going to look like. What's a good spare tube?
    Disclaimer: I ride really slow.

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    Get a q tubes 2.7 ultralight tube.
    Too many bikes, not enough time...

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    I was wondering if the 120mm fork bluto changed the frame angles. thats why I was asking about the frame.
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    Great thread guys....thanks for starting it Dirtdawg. I ordered the black Gravity Bullseye Monster yesterday and got the shipping email today. I am excited but half expect to get a bent fork and damaged derailer. I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully BD has improved the packaging to prevent damage.

    I'll post first impressions to this thread. I'm in Western North Carolina with plenty of trails and forest service roads. I forgot to add....I'm an old dude like Old Bear and some of the others here. 57 years old.

    Thanks again.

    PS....just got my shipping info.....it will be here Monday...that's three business days! It lists the shipping weight as 30 pounds!!! That can't be right can it?

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    Ordered mine last Friday. It arrived here (NY) Wednesday. Only thing that keeps it from being perfect is a small dent in the left fork -- not worth making a stink about. I already installed the Ergon GP-5-L grips with integral bar ends. Got some other stuff on order (pedals, fenders, stuff like that).

    I told my boss today that I am leaving work early tomorrow to ride the bike for the first time. I'm stoked. I'll be riding with my wife (got her a Dolomite for early Xmas gift). Hopefully, we'll end up at the beach so I can do a sand run.

    BTW, it is a 20", and I'm 6', 260. 'Nad clearance is less than I'd like for a singletrack, but I don't expect this bike to see hardcore trails on Long Island.

    I'll report on my impressions, and mods as they happen.

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    Hi Everyone! I went for a total of 18 miles today. fourteen at Binder Lake up near Jefferson City and four more on a local trail near home.

    I helped two new friends put their Monsters together today. I love spinning wrenches on new bikes and there's that rubber smell right out of the box that I crave. Tom came along and swapped out their tires for some Husker du's and put on the new pedals, some VP platforms.

    I also received word from a good friend offering my wife, son and I a double wide home in Moab for free. He knows about our situation and has offered to let us live there. He'd like us to move in May but I talked him into letting us move in in October. My wife and I are going to talk about it and give him an answer by January 15th.

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    Can anyone tell me the axle to crown lenght on the fork? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    Sorry I haven't reported anything for a while, the semester is in full swing and calculus has been keeping me super busy. We had a white Thanksgiving here in New England and 1200 miles later the bike finally got to see snow for the first time.
    Fatty flotilla.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm really impressed with this bike. Even without nice tires, this thing was kicking ass in the snow and I stayed in the front of the pack for most of the day. The gravity was not holding me back, and proved that it can float and ride snow as well as any of the other bikes. (mostly blizzard's and fat boys, with a muk and a pug)

    looking sharp with some white floaters, these tires really bring the bike to life.

    watch out for falling trees, the storm left several trails unpassable.
    Great Review! Thanks!

    I am loving my Gravity Bullseye Monster, I have over 120 miles on it now. Everyone that tries it falls in LOVE with it.

    And Holligan, I love the Christmas Decor on your bike!

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    I own a Airborne Goblin 29er that is an XC bike. Airborne is an established internet bike company (like BD), so I am familiar with online bike companies and doing my own maintenance. I've done everything I can to make the Goblin more fun... 60mm stem, flat pedals, longer bar, maxis ardents, but 29er wheels just don't feel right on pump tracks or parks for me. I understand that an XC bike is not meant to be agile or used at a bike park. Also, the Goblin is a very nice bike for XC and climbing up long hills.

    Anyways, I've been looking for an affordable 26 inch bike for the local pump tracks, dirt jump park, etc... Do the fatbikes belong on the pump tracks or should I just look for a DJ bike / bmx bike?

    I'm no pro or anything... I just want to have some fun. I'm not looking to start hitting 5-6ft jumps... I just want to be able to cruise around the pump track, get some air on the jumps and enjoy the feel of a smaller bike.

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    Here's my Gravity Bullseye Monster Pro. Cheapest fatbike available with Bluto. 16" frame. Complete stock bike weighs in at 37.5 pounds with pedals.
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    Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I last posted. annnnnd was just going to catch up on what's been going on with a lot of you guys.

    tmo8853: You relly have a lot of choices when it comes to BD fatbikes. I would say, after 1200 miles on mine, The Monster is holding up really well. I do a lot of off road stuff and have tried to ride trails that are technical. I have even tried to do small jumps with it without any damage to it. By the way Gravity makes a nice singlespeed, the Deadeye Monster that would probably fit your needs for a pump track bike. (I own one of these too,)

    Marna: Love those pogies! When is your husband going to go fat? lol you look thinner too!

    mercury168: That bike is sweet! I am getting one in March. same color as yours! I am a sucker for black bikes. How does it handle? How is the Bluto?

    dirtdawg: How does the mOnster handle in the snow? I read your post and loved the pics.

    I am going to be moving to our retirement city, Moab Utah in October. A good friend told us he has a older double wide 4 bedroom home that he wants to give us to live in. We wanted to move back to the desert for the past ten years and we had set a tentative date of September 2017, but, now our dreams are coming to pass early. We will be able to have people come out in March of next year.

    UNTIL NEXT TIME..........PEACE
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    The Monster Pro handles like a monster truck. It doesn't feel quick, but it lets you plow through everything. I love the Bluto. I wouldn't go Fat without it!

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    Gravity Bullseye Monster

    Well my Gravity Monster arrived this afternoon.



    I opened the box and carefully scrutinized the forks and deralleur.....no damage. WooHoo!



    Everything appeared to be carefully packaged and wrapped with copious amounts of foam sheeting. After emptying the box I did find a few "crumbs" in the bottom of the box. I have no idea where they belong so it's no biggie.



    There was a scratched area on one of the tubes but I'm willing to accept that.



    I had it assembled in about 45 minutes. Brakes are adjusted and stop the bike well. I'm still playing with handlebar and seat height.

    This bike will be used primarily to facilitate my photography hobby as well as getting me to some isolated trout streams.

    Lastly.....I put it on the scale....36 lbs. (20-inch frame). I am a 33-inch inseam and have about an inch 'nad clearance.

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    I took a second look....the small bits are off the sacrificial spacer that is clipped into the fork to prevent damage. I guess it did it's job. The cap...I have no clue where it might go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMO8853 View Post
    I own a Airborne Goblin 29er that is an XC bike. Airborne is an established internet bike company (like BD), so I am familiar with online bike companies and doing my own maintenance. I've done everything I can to make the Goblin more fun... 60mm stem, flat pedals, longer bar, maxis ardents, but 29er wheels just don't feel right on pump tracks or parks for me. I understand that an XC bike is not meant to be agile or used at a bike park. Also, the Goblin is a very nice bike for XC and climbing up long hills.

    Anyways, I've been looking for an affordable 26 inch bike for the local pump tracks, dirt jump park, etc... Do the fatbikes belong on the pump tracks or should I just look for a DJ bike / bmx bike?

    I'm no pro or anything... I just want to have some fun. I'm not looking to start hitting 5-6ft jumps... I just want to be able to cruise around the pump track, get some air on the jumps and enjoy the feel of a smaller bike.
    if you just want a pump track bike then get a pump track bike. you can find used DJ and BMX bikes for way cheaper than these fatbikes anyway. the fat tires are too soft and squirrely when youre pumping hard and in the berms. the outer diameter of the tires is about 29" anyway, so youre not really at any advantage there either. on a pumptrack, i look for low standover and a short wheelbase. i ride a 20" bmx on the pump tracks and dirt jumps and i love it.
    the beauty of a fat bike is that it can go anywhere, but if youre just gona ride the pump track i think you would be much happier on a bike built for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post

    dirtdawg: How does the mOnster handle in the snow? I read your post and loved the pics.
    It handles great in the snow! on par with the pugs and muks ive ridden (that cost 3x as much).

    also, I love Moab. thats where my profile picture was taken. i would love to take a fat bike on slickrock, it would probably stick like glue to that sandstone. Seems like a great place to retire, I will have to come visit you
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    I just ordered my 14" matte black Gravity Bullseye Monster today! As I've read in the thread...carefully inspect the derailleurs, fork, and consider repacking the bearings. Anything else?

    This will be my first non-road bike, so I'm pretty psyched. Up until now, I've trained through the Winter (upstate NY) on my rollers/trainer, so I'm excited to get outside and ride all year-round!

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    The more I ride this bike, the more I like it. When you're leaving work early to go ride a bike, I think that's a good sign.

    I took it on the beach for the first time today. Wow. It just motors along.

    The bike now has a front mud guard, rear rack/bag, handlebar bag (it handles much better without that, though), and the Ergon grips with bar ends.

    I'm eager to put more miles on it, but the days are too short right now (and there's the whole two jobs thing).

    There are some photos on my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/bob.muller.99Gravity Bullseye Monster-20141216-heckscher.jpg
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    dirtdawg: You will be welcomed with open arms. We are excited about the move.

    I am glad that everyone is enjoying their fatties. I will get to ride in snow for the first time this season this weekend. I know a lot of people complain about snow and 2" seems to shut down everything in this state. I come from the Chicago suburbs and we only gotm out of school due to snow when the sn ow hit 6"+.

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    Gravity Bullseye Monster

    I'm excited and having a blast on the Monster. I did notice on occasion that the chain would slip in one of the lower gears when under load. Upon closer look I noticed some of the sprocket teeth were irregular in shape. I'm a total noob to this and attributed it to an out-of-tune situation. Anyhow...I'm wondering if this is just a cheap gear cassette or possibly a flawed part. Can you all take a quick look and let me know if this is messed up before I contact Bikes Direct?

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    Thanks in advance for your feedback.

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    Okay....thanks....I checked the link....but are the irregular teeth on the sprockets normal?


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    Rear cassette is junk contact bikes direct and they will send a new shimano replacement. They are awesome at service I had the same prob

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    Thank you! That's kinda what I thought.

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    Any other Monster owners have these substandard sprockets? Seems to be a quality control issue to me. It makes me wonder what other inferior parts are on the bike.

    Still....I'll be happy with the purchase if BD makes good on the parts. I sent the email last night w/photos.

    Meanwhile.....the bike is parked.

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    Just go buy a shimano cassette for $15! That's what I did. If they send you a replacement then you have a spare.

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    Look like ramped cogs to me. They're shaped that way to help the chain on and off while shifting.

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    Thanks for your feedback. That makes sense. I just looked at some Shimano cassettes and they have the same irregular pattern.


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    Moab

    DIRTDAWG: i have to post here because for some reasonj I can't send you a message Of course I was serious. We could put you up for as long as you'd like.
    On another note, I have shingles. been off the bike for a week. Once the itching stops and the rash goes away I will be back at it strong. I just can't wait.
    Moving to Moab will be great for Sue and I. when we lived up in Price we didn't get sniffles and colds as much because of the dry air and clean air. Right now although they say it's a minor symptom of the shingles, my nose runs like a faucet. I have to take Benadryl anbd I get so sleepy. But once I move I won't be taking it.
    Georgia drifter: I had some problems with my stock casette but BD replaced it for free. It skipped in the mid range, and replacment took care of it.
    Well everyone have a Merry Christmas and a Pedalin' New Year.

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    Thanks OldBear! I look forward to it
    I'm sorry to hear that you have shingles, I wish you a speedy recovery and hope you are back on the bike soon.

    In other news, the green fairy strikes again, this time with some sweet flat pedals
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    They go pretty nicely with the paint on the bike.
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    Can't wait to go scatch them up, my Nice things never seem to stay that way.
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    I bought my girlfriend one of these for Christmas (gave it to here early).. Foe the money it looks great! I had to do some derailleur adjustments and the brakes need to bed in, but it rides pretty nice..

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    Just got mine yesterday!

    Just got mine yesterday! 2 rides in and totally loving it. Very impressed with the bike (the price point is insane!). This is near the Flying Dog Trail near Park City, Utah.
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    Ermahgerd grrrn!

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    Still a work in progress, but I'm pretty stoaked about the footprint that the 80mm rims provide. Yet to come: green cable housings, different grips, and a brand new drivetrain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    Ermahgerd grrrn!

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    Still a work in progress, but I'm pretty stoaked about the footprint that the 80mm rims provide. Yet to come: green cable housings, different grips, and a brand new drivetrain.
    Looks great! How much clearance is there in the back between the tire and the chain?

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    After reading all these posts on the Bullseye and doing a ton of research I am so stoked to get my 2015 Gravity Bullseye Monster. Should be here on Friday. You all were extremely helpful to a newbie rider as far as all the tech talk. I am 5'8" 155 so I went with a 16, I think it was the right call after testing a 17. Have a ton of trails in CT that my golden retriever and I cannot wait to hit.

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    Merry Christmas everyone. I too am thankful for all the guidance....especially this thread. Larry from BD sent me an email with tracking number...replacement cassette is on the way. Add another vote for a happy Bikes Direct customer.

    I had a great ride this past Saturday. No snow up high but fun nonetheless!


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    Loving it more and more

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    Took another ride on the Monster today. The only problem I am having is that 6th gear skips and slips (I have ordered a Shimano cassette). Everything else is perfect. The brakes are setting in, the seat is comfortable...

    I took it on the really soft sand at Jones Beach the other day, with 11-12psi, and it did okay unless I turned (I had the pressures up for paved trails and the boardwalk).

    So far, this $500 bike was a steal. Thanks again for all the info that helped me decide to get this bike. Merry Christmas, all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercury168 View Post
    Here's my Gravity Bullseye Monster Pro. Cheapest fatbike available with Bluto. 16" frame. Complete stock bike weighs in at 37.5 pounds with pedals.
    Any updates? How do you like it after you've had it a few days. I have a lady friend interested in this but in a 14". More pictures would be awesome cause it looks a 100% better than that photochopped picture BD has up for this model.
    Bucksaw, Farley, and a Sturgis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
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    Still a work in progress, but I'm pretty stoaked about the footprint that the 80mm rims provide. Yet to come: green cable housings, different grips, and a brand new drivetrain.
    What wheels did u get and what brand are the pedals. I want some

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy69 View Post
    What wheels did u get and what brand are the pedals. I want some
    The wheels were a cyber Monday deal throug bikes direct, they called them boris wheels and gave no details. and the pedals are wellgos, I got them as a christmas present.

    EDIT: here is a link to the wheels: Save Up to 60% Off FatBike, MTB, Road, Lifestyle Bicycle Bike Wheels for Bicycles, Mountain Bikes, Road Bikes, Hybrid, Comfort and More Save Up to 60% Off New Bikes they are the second ones down on the left
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Dirtdawg, I have been following this thread and the Dolo thread for a while. I decided on the Dolo myself, but with those 80mm wheels it looks like you have a whole new bike!

    I like it, keep up the good work!

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    The Monster continues to prove itself to be a great all-around bike.

    There was some slippage in first gear on hard climbs today, but the new Shimano cassette is already on the way. Hopefully, that will cure the only complaint I have about the bike.

    I just wish we'd get some snow...

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    Got mine for Christmas! Fork was a little bent out of the box,not bad. Straightened it in the vice. Came with the back wheel installed wrong, had to readjust the bearings. Did a full tune up x4 actually shifts on par with the slx on my full squish. Hit all gears out of the box but the limit screws were not adjusted at all (open on both sides). Switched the pedals to wellgo flats. And an old shorter post and saddle that I like. Have some bb7s on my old hard tail, thinking about trading but will see when these bed in. I ordered hussefelt stem and bars the ones that came on it are terrible! I'm wider than the bars on it now. So far it rides great! Really all the changes are typical fit things that I expected. Running tires at 9 front and back seems perfect. I'll post some pictured when the bars and green raceface grips come in!

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    New to fat bikes and have been following this thread for a bit. I see this bike comes with 50mm wide rims. Also saw someone mention that 80mm would be better. Why is that?

    I'm looking at this bike for primarily riding in the snow.

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    I love riding my monster, but just wondering how this bike actually compares to say Fatboy, Pugsley, or any other middle to high end bike. Does anyone have experience with these other models? I'm starting to wonder if I need to upgrade already. Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    New to fat bikes and have been following this thread for a bit. I see this bike comes with 50mm wide rims. Also saw someone mention that 80mm would be better. Why is that?

    I'm looking at this bike for primarily riding in the snow.

    Wider rim= larger footbprint with the same size tire. Smaller Rim= more choices of tires (you can even run some DH tires on the 50mm rim). This is great in the summer!

    You can run big tires on the smaller rim, it just may not have as much control as if it were on the larger ones. (relying more on the rubber for lateral forces).

    Honestly, unless you are riding in deep powder and VERY picky the stock rims and tires on this bike are fine. I would say this setup would work for 99% of people if they didnt spend their days on here reading how much better things could be for another few hundred dollars. (the fun to money ratio just doesnt make sense).

    I rode mine on the VASA in northern MI last week in the snow with stock wheels and tires at 9PSI and it was a blast. The Missions were fine and I didnt feel like I was lagging behind the group because of equipment (I was lagging behind the group because those jerks are fast.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    Wider rim= larger footbprint with the same size tire. Smaller Rim= more choices of tires (you can even run some DH tires on the 50mm rim). This is great in the summer!

    You can run big tires on the smaller rim, it just may not have as much control as if it were on the larger ones. (relying more on the rubber for lateral forces).

    Honestly, unless you are riding in deep powder and VERY picky the stock rims and tires on this bike are fine. I would say this setup would work for 99% of people if they didnt spend their days on here reading how much better things could be for another few hundred dollars. (the fun to money ratio just doesnt make sense).

    I rode mine on the VASA in northern MI last week in the snow with stock wheels and tires at 9PSI and it was a blast. The Missions were fine and I didnt feel like I was lagging behind the group because of equipment (I was lagging behind the group because those jerks are fast.)
    Thanks. That makes sense now.

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    Dirtdawg: Did you shorten your chain out of the box? I have a ton of chain slap. It sure seems like the spring in the X4 is strong enough to keep it tensioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    Dirtdawg: Did you shorten your chain out of the box? I have a ton of chain slap. It sure seems like the spring in the X4 is strong enough to keep it tensioned.

    No, however I did wrap the chainstay with an old inner tube after the first ride. I was getting some serious chain slap, but its fairly normal for me so I wrap the stay on all my bikes.
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    As I come up on the 6 month mark since receiving my bike, I have 1500 miles on it and still love it. I went and took it on a beach for the first time on Saturday. 10 miles of sugar sand did in the old cassette, but it was far overdue anyway.
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    It was a lot of fun, and I'm sure that I will log more beach miles in the future.

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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    I'm 5'8" with a 32" inseam. I currently have a Trek 3 series bike with 19.5" frame that fits me real well. So would I go 18" or 20" frame with the Gravity Bike?

    DirtDawg...What 80mm rims did you install on your bike?

    With the possibility of riding this bike more in snow than anything else I was looking at the 45NRTH Vanhelga tires, but they only fit on 65-102mm rims. Unless someone knows of similar tire that would fit on the 50mm rims that come with the Gravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twentyniner29 View Post
    I love riding my monster, but just wondering how this bike actually compares to say Fatboy, Pugsley, or any other middle to high end bike. Does anyone have experience with these other models? I'm starting to wonder if I need to upgrade already. Thanks in advance
    ive ridden most of them, and in my opinion it holds its own very nicely. on page 1 of this thread i compared it to the pug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    I'm 5'8" with a 32" inseam. I currently have a Trek 3 series bike with 19.5" frame that fits me real well. So would I go 18" or 20" frame with the Gravity Bike?

    DirtDawg...What 80mm rims did you install on your bike?

    With the possibility of riding this bike more in snow than anything else I was looking at the 45NRTH Vanhelga tires, but they only fit on 65-102mm rims. Unless someone knows of similar tire that would fit on the 50mm rims that come with the Gravity.
    the rims are DHL80's, they come stock on most of the BD bikes.
    And i wouldnt worry about the 45NRTH tires not fitting on the 50mm rims, it will be fine. i like the way the Vanhelgas look, nice and aggressive. should handle real well in the snow but ive never ridden them. However i do have experience with the Nates and can assure you that they do real well in the snow.
    People forget that at the end of the day, it comes down to rider ability more than anything else. obviously a good set of tires helps, but they will not magically make the bike unstoppable.

    *EDIT* i would go for the medium 18". youre only slightly bigger than me and i cant imagine comfortably riding anything bigger than the 18.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    I'm 5'8" with a 32" inseam. I currently have a Trek 3 series bike with 19.5" frame that fits me real well. So would I go 18" or 20" frame with the Gravity Bike?
    I'm 6'0 34" inseam and the 20" fits me nicely. I could probably even go down to 18. For comparison, my Jamis 26er is a 19.5. I would definitely not go bigger than the 18, prj71.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbird99 View Post
    I'm 6'0 34" inseam and the 20" fits me nicely. I could probably even go down to 18. For comparison, my Jamis 26er is a 19.5. I would definitely not go bigger than the 18, prj71.
    +1... Im 6'0" 32" inseam. Got the 18" its perfect. 20 would be too big for me. Good news is you can easily and cheaply sway out the stem to longer or shorter to help with the fit.

    I really dont see a reason why those tires wouldnt fit the 50mm rims... maybe they just started at 65 because its more popular?

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    5'7", 31" inseam and got the 16". Fits perfect. I would not want any bigger.

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    I haven't written for awhile, but, here goes. I run Husker Du's on my 50mm rims with no problem. As far as size goes, I am 6' 11" and ride an 18".
    Dirtdawg: Love the picks pf the greenj machine! And the beach ones too.

    Georgia drifter: Keep on Riding and posting!

    As far as comparing fat bikes, my monster rides just as good as a Trek Farley. It is the only one I have test ridden so far. I am hoping to test ride a few others in Sedona at the Mountain Bike Fest.

    Until tomorrow-------------PEACE
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    There was some slippage in first gear on hard climbs today, but the new Shimano cassette is already on the way. Hopefully, that will cure the only complaint I have about the bike.
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    Depending on how many miles you have on the chain, I would replace that too. Mine was junk after like 500 miles. No sense running a new cassette with an old chain, the skipping will only get worse.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    Depending on how many miles you have on the chain, I would replace that too. Mine was junk after like 500 miles. No sense running a new cassette with an old chain, the skipping will only get worse.
    Thanks, Dawg. I have less than 80 miles on it, and only maybe 18 that have been at all abusive. If I change the cassette and there are any issues, I'll get on the chain right away. Thanks again.
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    Just finished putting mine together.
    Wheelset came in from BD in TWO delivery days!
    Had to call and have them "hold for pickup", as we were still in MI for the holidays.

    I was GIVEN this frame!!! (will send Mike a carbon seat/storage for his training bike)

    Tried to take pics of the upgrades, (parts bin) and purchased stuff. Camera phone battery is turning off the phone when I take shots. (new phone time)

    Replaced;
    stem....Nashbar 90mm 106g's
    bars.....Easton EC70's 45 bucks at Bluesky (bought 4 sets for stock at that price!)
    levers...TRP carbon
    seat......Sella Italia SLR
    post....old USE Alien carbon from a road bike frame in the shed (barely long enough)
    grips Spec. clamp-on (added 1 g each over stock but I cut them off)

    180mm front rotor (TRP)
    TRP 160 rear
    135/170 wheelset from BD with "free" rubber (120tpi folding)
    Almost pulled a new set of Spykes out but will try the cheapo brakes/shifters.

    The weight reduced from the parts swap was 1lb 9oz.

    I would not have tried a fat bike if my good friend hadn't bought the 2 bikes.
    This will make a great winter/snow bike and my wife wants to take it to the dunes in SW CO, (in the spring).

    Now if a customer wants a fat bike. I can recommend they go for it!

    Only went for a short ride tonight. Threw on gloves/hat and just tried it.
    The brakes do feel really weak? The snow is deep and hardpack mix.

    Will try to break them in before using any new parts.

    Also bought 26x3.5 tubes for spares,
    digital gauge,
    Blackburn HV pump,
    cage.

    Will work on carbon tool boxes and fenders.

    WHAT A BLAST!
    JM

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    Dirtdawg... I've been wanting to get a fat bike for awhile. Long winters in Central Canada get pretty boring. After researching and checking the LBS the gravity bullseye ranks on par as a build with the Norco 6. 3 which costs almost $1200 Cdn.
    So after reading your posts I decided to order the monster. Have to drive to ND to pick it up but its still saving me $500. Doing the basic upgrades, wide bars short stem and better pedals.
    Thanks for the detailed build and test post. Always helps me make a decision when I hear a real riders opinion.

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    Hey! New member here.

    SO I just got one of these from Bike Island w/o a fork/crown race for a good deal. I emailed BD to ask about the stock fork measurements and they don't know (?!?!). Could anybody measure at least their axle-to-crown with the stock fork? I'd be forever grateful! I'm thinking of a Moonlander/Pugsley fork but I just want to be sure it'll work right. Then again, it's not like there are a lot of options for budget aftermarket forks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermboy View Post
    Dirtdawg... I've been wanting to get a fat bike for awhile. Long winters in Central Canada get pretty boring. After researching and checking the LBS the gravity bullseye ranks on par as a build with the Norco 6. 3 which costs almost $1200 Cdn.
    So after reading your posts I decided to order the monster. Have to drive to ND to pick it up but its still saving me $500. Doing the basic upgrades, wide bars short stem and better pedals.
    Thanks for the detailed build and test post. Always helps me make a decision when I hear a real riders opinion.
    No problem! I'm glad that I could help.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rycolos View Post
    Hey! New member here.

    SO I just got one of these from Bike Island w/o a fork/crown race for a good deal. I emailed BD to ask about the stock fork measurements and they don't know (?!?!). Could anybody measure at least their axle-to-crown with the stock fork? I'd be forever grateful! I'm thinking of a Moonlander/Pugsley fork but I just want to be sure it'll work right. Then again, it's not like there are a lot of options for budget aftermarket forks...
    I will measure the fork tonight, but my guess is that any normal (non-suspension corrected) fork will work fine without significantly changing the geometry.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    I will measure the fork tonight, but my guess is that any normal (non-suspension corrected) fork will work fine without significantly changing the geometry.
    That'd be awesome! And yeah, I'm really not expecting too many issues. I'm really only looking at the Pug/ML fork and the Salsa Enabler. After that, they are all just too expensive to throw on a sub $500 bike. I'll basically just go with whatever is closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rycolos View Post
    Hey! New member here.

    SO I just got one of these from Bike Island w/o a fork/crown race for a good deal. I emailed BD to ask about the stock fork measurements and they don't know (?!?!). Could anybody measure at least their axle-to-crown with the stock fork? I'd be forever grateful! I'm thinking of a Moonlander/Pugsley fork but I just want to be sure it'll work right. Then again, it's not like there are a lot of options for budget aftermarket forks...
    Looks like 450mm (didn't pull the wheel) Guessing at 45-48 offset.
    465-485m should be fine. The HT angle "looks" steeper than the 71 degree (claimed)

    JM

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    Gravity Bullseye Monster-image.jpgWidened the wingspan today! What an improvement!
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    Oops that last photo is before...

    I think it's funny that the stock bars and stem come with a sticker on them that say not for downhill or rough off-road use... The hussefelts sure are! Still waiting on my green raceface grips to come in... I'll be done for a while.

    Another note.... The crank arms looks like they come from the same casting as my older raceface ride cranks (2007) from my hard tail... They are identical except the bottom bracket type. raceface does outsource their lower line stuff...

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    Has anyone determined if a 29+ tire will fit on the Bullseye Monster?
    http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/
    RIGID, not "ridged" or "ridgid"
    PEDAL, not "peddle." Unless you're selling stuff

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    Monster shots



    Only measured the weight of the Easton bar. No downhill or big hit riding for me.

    Happy Holidays!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMagic View Post
    Looks like 450mm (didn't pull the wheel) Guessing at 45-48 offset.
    465-485m should be fine. The HT angle "looks" steeper than the 71 degree (claimed)

    JM
    My measurement agree, im getting 445mm. Anything in that ballpark should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNicholls62 View Post
    Oops that last photo is before...

    I think it's funny that the stock bars and stem come with a sticker on them that say not for downhill or rough off-road use... The hussefelts sure are! Still waiting on my green raceface grips to come in... I'll be done for a while.

    Another note.... The crank arms looks like they come from the same casting as my older raceface ride cranks (2007) from my hard tail... They are identical except the bottom bracket type. raceface does outsource their lower line stuff...
    Careful or your bike is gona end up exactly like mine... Awesome.
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Only measured the weight of the Easton bar. No downhill or big hit riding for me.

    Happy Holidays!
    Hmm, looks like the bike changed a lot. Really digging that color, are 80mm rims and v8's standard equipment now?
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMagic View Post
    Monster shots



    Only measured the weight of the Easton bar. No downhill or big hit riding for me.

    Happy Holidays!
    I really like that darker green your bike came in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    Careful or your bike is gona end up exactly like mine... Awesome.
    Sometimes there is just a right way of doing things...

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    I'm very interested in buying a Bullseye but am worried about tire width. I will be riding in snow 99% of the time and think the first thing I would upgrade on the bike would be to bigger/wider tires. How wide of tires can the Bullseye handle? The bike comes with Vee 4.0 tires and a Bluto for and am thinking of buying Bud/Lou tires. Would those tires fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    Hmm, looks like the bike changed a lot. Really digging that color, are 80mm rims and v8's standard equipment now?
    Got a free frame from a friend with only the original 650b+ rear wheel.
    Ordered the wheelset from BD because I could not find listed weights on the better sets available. And wanted 26x4's.

    Changed the front rotor size to 180, (TRP rotor),
    rear is still 160

    JM

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    I would bet the 4.5's will fit this frame.
    There is 1/2" on either side at the rear.
    A little less at the front.
    With the 170 rear hub, you might have to ditch the granny?

    JM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marna_Kazmaier View Post
    I really like that darker green your bike came in.
    It's funny. When my buddy said it was "green". The green hater in me was preparing an excuse NOT to take a "free frame offer"?

    When he pulled it from the box, I was quite pleased with the shade.
    The brighter one above doesn't bother me either.

    JM

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMagic View Post
    It's funny. When my buddy said it was "green". The green hater in me was preparing an excuse NOT to take a "free frame offer"?

    When he pulled it from the box, I was quite pleased with the shade.
    The brighter one above doesn't bother me either.

    JM
    Where did he acquire the frame?
    I bike with tires.

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    Thanks for the measurements, guys.

    One more question: I'm a bit confused about this rear disc hub/front disc hub stuff on surly forks. If I get a surly fork that is meant for a rear disc hub, will this pose a problem with the Gravity front wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardnation View Post
    Where did he acquire the frame?
    He, like so many others, bought the orange, slightly higher spec model with 26x4's.
    After weighing the front wheel ( a whopping TEN lbs!). He ordered the second Gravity Monster for the 650b+'s.

    His other frame is the Motobecane with the 135 offset rear. He built up an offset wheel with the 650b Dually rim.

    Now his Moto frame has both wheels that fit.

    He looked into a return from BD. 20% re-stocking fee PLUS that huge box they use is another 229.00 to ship!!!???

    So, for a 500 dollar bike, he would have netted 180 bucks.
    He is the kind of guy that has way more than 10 bikes and would let someone borrow one for any length of time.

    He is one of my sponsored riders.
    He kept the 650b+ wheels and gave me the frame. Tried to just pay a "fair market price" for it. If he would have bought a second wheelset (hindsight?), it would have cost him closer to 349 for the offset rear.

    I am sending him a seat w/tunnel and fender to compensate. Was gonna swap that seat anyway. But it would be a 475.00 (retail) value. My cost time and materials would be closer to 200.00.

    Everybody (especially me) is happy with how it worked out.

    Funny thing is, He doesn't mind the weight (when riding in snow) of the heavy tires.
    Now he has both options for winter training and has been riding 12-15 miles per/day since he got the Moto. in Nov.

    JM

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