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    Geeked out bar ends or solid idea. Whatcha think

    Just put a fast thirty five miles of mixed grades on my Pugs this morning. Half trail, half road. I was testing some old school Onza bar ends on my Jones loop bar. With only my two grips I've got one set of hand positions, but with two sets of bar ends ( hey why not ) I have a total of nine different sets ( three symmetrical, six asymmetrical ) so I put them on and went for a ride.

    I had hoped to find two sets of black, but couldn't so had to settle for one red. At first they looked too blingy, but they're starting to grow on me. I'm probably going to wrap them anyway, so color really does't matter that much I guess. Let me be the first to say the bar ends look pretty geeky and over the top, but I'm beginning to dig them especially when I have nine sets of hand positions compared to just one.

    This is what I discovered. I generally used my grips anytime I wanted an upright position, and anytime I needed the most control including braking. I used the black ends to give me a little more forward lean, and it opened my chest a little for better breathing. I used the red ends for climbing and stretching out on the road.This let me lock out my arms and weight the front tire, and it lowered my center of gravity getting me out of the wind more.

    Surprisingly the most forward position using the red seemed the most comfortable. They're spaced just far enough apart for good control yet close enough to give decent aerodynamics. The best part is I can change my hand position in so many ways. For instance my left hand might be on the black bar end while the right hand is either on the grip, black or red. It really makes for a more interesting ride.

    At this point I don't think I'll go back to just one grip set. Sure the loop bar is meant to be used for different hand positions, but I find it too cramped with not very good control. Onza's seem to go well with a loop bar. They curve in and up at just the right angle. Straight bar ends wouldn't work well with a loop bar imo.

    Anyone who thinks catching vines or tree limbs would be a negative is right, but I don't ride in thick brush or that close to trees. I also like that I can have my mirror on the left bar end. It really does offer good rearward visibility.

    So there you have it. My story for the day. So whatcha think ? Totally geeked out or solid idea. I think they offer a hugh advantage in hand positions and make the ride more interesting. That's got to be worth something
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    That's a really interesting take on the Loop bar Suba

    It will be good to know which parts of the Loop and bar extensions that you use most over the following months.

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    They're not bar ends, they're antlers.
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    i think for all intents and purposes, you just invented the double loop bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byknuts View Post
    i think for all intents and purposes, you just invented the double loop bar.
    The Loop-de-Loop bar ???

    Or Loop-de-Deux ???

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    You guys got me laughing

    They do look like antlers. Funny thing is they work. No kidding....you just have to forget you're riding a bike that looks like a Reindeer

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    On almost any other bike(big dummy or similar for one exception) I'd say get that stuff out of here, but fat bikes look equally as appropriate loaded to the gills and stripped down. I actually think it looks OK. Ride them enough to get a real-world, long-term impression.

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    Crush?

    Looks like you have plastic end caps,is there something reinforcing the ends so the ti bar doesn't crush, or is that not needed on those bars?

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    They look like a Klingon Bat'Leth to me =], I like it tho.

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    I didn't want to be first to suggest antlers, though it crossed my mind. That's one cool and exotic handle bar. Makes me want to wear some orange though....

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    Looks like one of those Vespas in Quadrophenia. It's your bike- if you like it, that's all that matters.

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    brad...It's a good sign when you get a favorable impression right off, but you're right that it's the long term impression that counts. They actually look better than the pictures show. Not quite adult antler size

    steve... The caps are plastic but the bar is really thick. I thought about putting in a solid plug and I might do that. I wanted to get a feel for the antlers ( I mean bar ends ) today before I make a final plan. I torqued the bolts to 5nm. Seems really solid and can't detect any problems. Still, I might make solid plugs because I see no good reason why I shouldn't.

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    I don't want to hate...But, don't you have elbows? Your main position should allow for you to shift your weight properly for a short time without 6-9 seperate hand positions. How does the bike fit you otherwise? Change frame size/stem length/seatpost set back if you really need all that to keep your hands comfy.

    Again, not hating. Actually, of the overly antler-ey bars I've seen they aesthetically kinda work. Just that if you can't get a descent hand position on a Loop H bar there's something else amiss.

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    You've got a substantial investment in a Ti Loop bar, but any thought towards a Dirt Drop. If you need diverse hand positions a Woodchipper would be up your alley....
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    I've thought about a drop bar. I think the right bar could work well on a fat bike. To answer your questions, I think my bike is pretty dialed in. It's super comfortable. I can ride for literally hours with no issues. No butt pain. No hand numbness. I'm running a 100/10* stem but want just a little more reach so I've got a 120/15* from Black Sheep on order that I think will work well.

    I took a calculated risk with the Jones bar just like everything else on my bike, and I've got no regrets. I'm basically an experimenter. I like pushing the envelope. I didn't feel a need to add extensions but I found these on ebay cheap and thought why not try it.

    I do like the different hand positions. It's like adding another dimension to riding. Once I got past the shock of having antlers on my bar it was all good. Even other riders commented today that they've never seen anything like my bike ( especially the bar : )....and I like that. I like a bike that no one else has....or wants

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    The bar setup has interesting cargo carrying potential.

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    I love my new loop bar, but you are loopy over it.

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    just don't let the snob get wind of this thread...

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    Truly, a cockpit worthy of Vishnu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregclimbs View Post
    just don't let the snob get wind of this thread...
    That's what I was thinking.

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    This is just my opinion, but that looks heinous. Equally heinous is the spacer stack on the stem. Cut that sucka down, buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    This is just my opinion, but that looks heinous. Equally heinous is the spacer stack on the stem. Cut that sucka down, buddy!
    I just got a new fork and playing with stack height. Once I get my 120/15* stem I'll figure out the best height and cut it. I know it looks silly now, but I'm leaving my options open. I guess I could have explained that somewhere.

    Sometimes I look at things and think how ridiculous they are, but when I look deeper I see them differently. This is one of those times

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    That stem stack makes me think, how bout converting a dropper post for on the fly bar height adjustments, that would be sweet with those antlers.

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    Smile Elk hunt issue?

    I would check with your state DNR. It may well be unsafe to ride in woods during elk hunting season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suba View Post
    So there you have it. My story for the day. So whatcha think ? Totally geeked out or solid idea. I think they offer a hugh advantage in hand positions and make the ride more interesting. That's got to be worth something
    That would be excessive and unnecessary for me, but it's your bike...if you like that setup and it works for you awesome - rock on!...
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    Different goals maybe, but it's really no dorkier than my new setup:

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/6234727705/" title="New 9:Zero:7 Cockpit by Uncle Bicycle, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/6234727705_5e51ac92e3.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="New 9:Zero:7 Cockpit"></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/6235251826/" title="New 9:Zero:7 Cockpit by Uncle Bicycle, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6114/6235251826_2507fbca57.jpg" width="500" height="500" alt="New 9:Zero:7 Cockpit"></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/6234727395/" title="New 9:Zero:7 Cockpit by Uncle Bicycle, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6212/6234727395_313a3d88e9.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="New 9:Zero:7 Cockpit"></a>

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    ... and if we just ...

    I think both setups rock big time!! Here is mine. Iam gonna half Fat my Epic 29er hahahah.
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    Now MB that is a cool setup!!

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    I like the other set up. Looks valid and comfortable, and a real go anywhere vehicle. Remember form follows function. Unless I want to go custom it looks like these antlers are it. I think once I wrap them they'll blend in better and meld with the bike.

    Regardless of how they look, they are functional, and that's my only goal. The top antlers really make it nice on a smooth stretch of road. I found it enlightening switching positions as I negotiated curves, hills, etc because I'm good at multitasking ( Pilots are good at that ) Time will tell if they''re meaningful enough to keep long term but right now it seems they add additional dimension to my riding experience. That in itself may be hard to ever give up. Of course you're mileage may vary

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    How do you know your talking to a pilot?





























    Don't worry..... They'll tell ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Now MB that is a cool setup!!
    Thanks...we'll see whether the aero position is of any benefit for the type of riding I'm doing. Should be, but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    How do you know your talking to a pilot? Don't worry..... They'll tell ya
    True.... we're a proud bunch

    A little update. I bought a package of Wilson aire grip tennis racket tape and wrapped my grips. I only had enough for three as you can see in the picture. I'l get another package tomorrow. I like the tape. It's more like a mesh and really grippy. For about $1 per grip it's functional and it toned down the visual aspect of the bar.

    btw, here's an old pilot axiom. You can consider it applicable for mountain biking if you wish.

    There are old pilots and bold pilots.....but there are no old bold pilots
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    Altitude above ya, runway behind ya, hand positions left in the garage?
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    sweet four pointer! better not ride that in the woods during hunting season just kidding bud, I like it.

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    I guess I have to ask: why do you ask?
    If you like it, then fine for you. If it works, then run it.
    For me, it's unsightly. And therefore it would never don any of my rigs. But if you can get past that part, and extol the virtues, then there's really no reason to seek the approval of this unreliable internet lot. Or is there?

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    Moe, you are exactly right. Trust me I'm not seeking approval. Just thought it would be interesting getting opinions. Besides, how many times can you read about tires and rims before your head explodes

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    If I tried to ride something like that, I would poke my eye out the amount of crashes I have LOL.

    Luckily for me I hate hate hate riding road, gravel etc, so multiple hand locations really aren't needed. But if it works for you, more power! Ride em & enjoy em

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    Altitude above ya, runway behind ya, hand positions left in the garage?
    Exactly

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