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    Front tire recommendation

    I have used a surly bud on the front for 6-7 seasons and itís really showing its wear. Iíve used a variety of tires over the seasons, but nothing has performed better consistently in my local conditions up here in Quebec, so the bud normally goes back on shortly after.

    I really appreciate a tire with nice float and predicable cornering in loose to hard pack conditions. The vast majority of the trails I ride donít see a lot of traffic and itís normally me breaking them in. I also ride well tracked trails, but I value grip over rolling, so Iím not too concerned with a better rolling tire on the front.

    Before I pull the trigger on another bud, has anyone found a better front tire that floats and corners as well as the bud?

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    Nope, still the Bud. If the Bud came studded I'd probably even ditch the Johnny5 for the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    Nope, still the Bud. If the Bud came studded I'd probably even ditch the Johnny5 for the front.
    I had a non studded J5 on the front last year for a bit, and it definitely didnít perform as well as the bud. Itís a great rear tire though, and that has been my best combo so far: bud front and J5 rear.

    I donít really need studs where I live but I know some guys who have studded buds and are quite happy.

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    If you know you love Bud, there's no reason to complicate things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    If you know you love Bud, there's no reason to complicate things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    If you know you love Bud, there's no reason to complicate things.
    Iím not trying to complicate things! Iím trying to take advantage of the a group of fellow fatbike addicts who may have found a tire to perform better in similar conditions as I ride.

    I guess Iím just surprised nothing obvious has surpassed the bud as a better non studded all round front tire over the past decade!

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    Another fan of Bud here. I stick with what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
    Iím not trying to complicate things! Iím trying to take advantage of the a group of fellow fatbike addicts who may have found a tire to perform better in similar conditions as I ride.

    I guess Iím just surprised nothing obvious has surpassed the bud as a better non studded all round front tire over the past decade!
    Frankly, your question is quite well put. Redesign of this particular mouse trap doesn't seem to have been done successfully as Bud is still the baseline that all others are trying to meet or exceed.

    Tough to beat the Bud for snow!

    Another tire quality issue is suppleness of the casing. How flexible or pliable is it and is it sufficient for snow riding, etc.
    Surly/Innova got the supple/pliable part sorted long ago.
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    Disclaimer-I have not tried the Bud. But I sure do like the Wrathchild as a front ungroomed-snow tire.

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    I tried a cake eater on the front. While a good tire, it does not corner or maintain traction when leaning like a bud. After a few rides, the bud went back on. I ride on groomed, ungroomed, snowshoe groomed, runner groomed and deer and elk groomed trails. Only wish it was the tubeless ready version. 😁

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    Bud is hands down, the best front tire I've ever used.

    Nothing else seems to even come close to the design, so everything else is relegated to second place by miles.

    Sure, others "work", (I have a Snowshoe 2XL which certainly floats too), but nothing else works as well as Bud for cornering, especially when things get soft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Disclaimer-I have not tried the Bud. But I sure do like the Wrathchild as a front ungroomed-snow tire.
    I've run both. I ride studded wrathchilds on one wheelset and bud/lou on the other. Bud is better for looser/deeper/ungroomed/fresh stuff. Wrathchild does OK but isn't as good. I do only weigh about 150 so wrathchild may perform better for me than larger folks because I don't need as much float.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urmb View Post
    I tried a cake eater on the front. While a good tire, it does not corner or maintain traction when leaning like a bud. After a few rides, the bud went back on. I ride on groomed, ungroomed, snowshoe groomed, runner groomed and deer and elk groomed trails. Only wish it was the tubeless ready version. 😁
    This sounds like similar conditions to what I encounter. Ok, so it seems unanimous! The bud still rules!

    Iíll be ordering the newer tubeless version. Now if only it came in the supple Schwalbe casing....too much to ask I suppose!

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    Bud is good, but front and rear snowshoe 2xl psc are better.

    I use to run the bud / Lou combo since they came out. I like the 2xl psc better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerpss View Post
    I've run both. I ride studded wrathchilds on one wheelset and bud/lou on the other. Bud is better for looser/deeper/ungroomed/fresh stuff. Wrathchild does OK but isn't as good. I do only weigh about 150 so wrathchild may perform better for me than larger folks because I don't need as much float.
    Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I ever feel like I want to replace the Wrathchild.

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    I like the Johnny 5 up front.

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